I tried using chief bogo early on with the floodborns. If he was inkable, he would be a perfect card. The problem is, he hurts your tempo a lot of the time. You want to really empty the opponent's hand immediately, so that the opponent has to choose to either ink or play. The problem with this is, you need to play floodborn until about turn 5. Taking a turn to get bogo down is rough on your own pacing. He is an mvp vs agro, but is useless against control or saphire. I would at most run 2 copies.
Yeah I kinda forgot about that despite mentioning it in the intro sorry :( I am going to be doing a 'beat the meta' video soon though & will make sure to cover it there.
Chief Bogo seems alright its a spicy pick for sure, but isnt he too slow? first proc of his ability is at turn 5. Dont wanna lecture the master deckbuilder but wouldnt morph for quicker tinker provide better value? Seems a turn quicker and morph is also usefull for shifting robin and beast when needed ;D
A resist deck with some card draw and challenge ready characters etc can hold up well to this. Idk how that deck holds up to ruby saph tho. Maybe some ward mixed in
I was talking with someone last night about how good Chief Bogo can be. One turn you can get rid of Bucky, Pegasus and merfolk and the next turn he gets rid of Diablo and Prince John. Also I love Donald in this deck. He lets you draw three cards at the start of your turn if you have Diablo and the opponent draws a card and then you can just rip it out of their hand. Once they catch onto this they usually won’t draw a card at all.
1. Diablo only draws you cards during the opponents turn. 2. Diablo only draws you cards when exerted. Neither of which are true when Donald lets an opponent draw a card. Donald's draw is in the "Set" part of "Ready, Set, Draw" at the start of your turn. I also like Donald for PJ decks to bait someone into taking the draw then slamming another floodborn for extra draws off the discard though.
Hi Speci, great job casting Lille! Will you do another run at the deck Ruby/Emerald? I really like your latest deck you tried on Pixelborn (in one of the last videos before Lille), I changed just a few cards, and it seems to be working properly, although I'm playing only in ranked, and not on hardcore ranked ladder yet. Thanks a lot for your content, it's soooo helpful and great to watch! Keep it up :)
I will definitely revisit Ruby / Emerald yeah! I am so busy with Lille Set 3 meta last weekend & UK Games Expo this weekend but will be doing a lot of testing this weekend!
Only two E-S decks in the top 8 actually played one single mirror match. Look at the game records, the rest of them ID’d all the mirrors to avoid them.
I have been playing Ladder and the one thing that has absolutely amazed me is the amount of people who think that Ruby Sapphire is still good. It has such a hard time against Bucky Discard that it's not even close to playable IMO. It needs a lot of re-tooling IMO. I queue into Emerald Steel probably 80% of the time.
Bogo is way too slow imo. Swords can get sung as early as turn 3 and Tink at least gives immediate impact plus a Bucky Trigger. The strength of this deck is the ability to curve out and constantly threaten the opponents hand with Floodborn back to back on turns 3-5 after a turn 2 Bucky. Bogo slows this down and won’t impact the board fast enough most of the time and is a really easy target for Bruno to bounce and have 0 impact.
$750 to build this deck?! With Pixelborn being shut down, I’m thinking value meta deck builds will need to be part of the content strategy moving forward. Just my two cents
Yeah mb I definitely want to make sure I cover that kind of thing moving forwards. I will be posting a meta guide soon & will make sure to cover it there
At the low low price of 756 dollars... i know most content creators are dead focused on competitive and destroying the meta. But would be cool to see like now heres this deck but slightly budget
Sure this deck is wildy expensive & if you're looking for something cheaper the deck is going to be entirely different. The Ruby / Sapphire deck i posted yesterday is also more affordable & I will try to include more budget options moving forwards. I appreciate the feedback & will try to include that aspect in the videos moving forwards.
@SpeciLorcana I appreciate it! I mean I know it's important to nail down the most competitive version. I don't know what kind of casuals are out there like me who still like to be semi-competetive haha
Robin Hood is one of the least problematic cards here, it’s the cards *around* RH (Robin Hood) that make him seem good - lots of E/S (Emerald/Steel) lists have been cutting RH
I tried using chief bogo early on with the floodborns. If he was inkable, he would be a perfect card. The problem is, he hurts your tempo a lot of the time. You want to really empty the opponent's hand immediately, so that the opponent has to choose to either ink or play. The problem with this is, you need to play floodborn until about turn 5. Taking a turn to get bogo down is rough on your own pacing. He is an mvp vs agro, but is useless against control or saphire. I would at most run 2 copies.
I kinda skimmed through it but I never heard you talk about how to beat the deck if you don’t want to play it.
Yeah I kinda forgot about that despite mentioning it in the intro sorry :(
I am going to be doing a 'beat the meta' video soon though & will make sure to cover it there.
Sapphire steel counters it hard
@@Waterjay11Too bad the real best deck this set so far R/B destroys B/S
If you could go over it before Saturday that would be much appreciated 😅 got the UKGE tournament and wanna play amethyst emerald not this 👍
Pick a Fight is a great counter to Bucky Discard. Plus it works against a number of Character driven decks as well.
Thought the same with bogo but in practice, it is slow because you need to play other stuff to keep tempo up. At least in the games I tried it
Was already teching in Bogo too!
Chief Bogo seems alright its a spicy pick for sure, but isnt he too slow? first proc of his ability is at turn 5. Dont wanna lecture the master deckbuilder but wouldnt morph for quicker tinker provide better value? Seems a turn quicker and morph is also usefull for shifting robin and beast when needed ;D
Also he is Inkable :)
That assuming they don’t take out your Morph and it requires two cards to work.
@@Baconsizzler84 thats indeed True let the Storm is in every deck ... still it seems to have no downside to run morph
A resist deck with some card draw and challenge ready characters etc can hold up well to this. Idk how that deck holds up to ruby saph tho. Maybe some ward mixed in
I was talking with someone last night about how good Chief Bogo can be. One turn you can get rid of Bucky, Pegasus and merfolk and the next turn he gets rid of Diablo and Prince John. Also I love Donald in this deck. He lets you draw three cards at the start of your turn if you have Diablo and the opponent draws a card and then you can just rip it out of their hand. Once they catch onto this they usually won’t draw a card at all.
1. Diablo only draws you cards during the opponents turn.
2. Diablo only draws you cards when exerted.
Neither of which are true when Donald lets an opponent draw a card. Donald's draw is in the "Set" part of "Ready, Set, Draw" at the start of your turn.
I also like Donald for PJ decks to bait someone into taking the draw then slamming another floodborn for extra draws off the discard though.
Hi Speci, great job casting Lille! Will you do another run at the deck Ruby/Emerald? I really like your latest deck you tried on Pixelborn (in one of the last videos before Lille), I changed just a few cards, and it seems to be working properly, although I'm playing only in ranked, and not on hardcore ranked ladder yet.
Thanks a lot for your content, it's soooo helpful and great to watch! Keep it up :)
I will definitely revisit Ruby / Emerald yeah! I am so busy with Lille Set 3 meta last weekend & UK Games Expo this weekend but will be doing a lot of testing this weekend!
@@SpeciLorcana Awesome, many thanks! Good luck with all of what you have going on then :)
How can you join the pixelborn tournaments? Lille was amazing, mist you on my top 32 loss against the runner up😢
R.I.P. Pixelborn 😢
bogo is interesting especially in a deck with a weak turn 4
😂 a shift in the meta arrr
Just curious what your thoughts are on And Along Came Zeus in Emerald Steel? 😂 Love the content, keep up the good work!
Would be awesome to see you play a few games with the deck you make
I am working out how to start recording gameplay using physical cards & hope to be adding that to guides moving forwards
Only two E-S decks in the top 8 actually played one single mirror match. Look at the game records, the rest of them ID’d all the mirrors to avoid them.
I have been playing Ladder and the one thing that has absolutely amazed me is the amount of people who think that Ruby Sapphire is still good. It has such a hard time against Bucky Discard that it's not even close to playable IMO. It needs a lot of re-tooling IMO. I queue into Emerald Steel probably 80% of the time.
Ye the deck is kinda dead with the old fashin build, just updating does not make it work. I think it needs a fresh idea too
Great job commentating brother. A joy to watch.
So i bought the cards and have been playing emerald steel for a week, and the deck has a real problem with sapphire.
Bogo is way too slow imo. Swords can get sung as early as turn 3 and Tink at least gives immediate impact plus a Bucky Trigger. The strength of this deck is the ability to curve out and constantly threaten the opponents hand with Floodborn back to back on turns 3-5 after a turn 2 Bucky. Bogo slows this down and won’t impact the board fast enough most of the time and is a really easy target for Bruno to bounce and have 0 impact.
love bogo, maybe cpl copies inkcaster and to go with bogo bobbidy boo
$750 to build this deck?! With Pixelborn being shut down, I’m thinking value meta deck builds will need to be part of the content strategy moving forward. Just my two cents
You didn't really go over how to play against it if you're not using emerald steel.
Yeah mb I definitely want to make sure I cover that kind of thing moving forwards. I will be posting a meta guide soon & will make sure to cover it there
My man Speci always hating on Ruby/Amethyst but yet what deck showed up first in the top 16 outside of the Emerald/Steel nonsense?
Is it true that pixelborn is shutting down?!
What about Donald Duck for Diablo? You draw and draw another if they draw, and now they have a card for you to discard???
"during each opponents turn..." so your Donald doesn't trigger Diablo.
Yeah, I didn't read the card. I'm a dumbass.
At the low low price of 756 dollars... i know most content creators are dead focused on competitive and destroying the meta. But would be cool to see like now heres this deck but slightly budget
Sure this deck is wildy expensive & if you're looking for something cheaper the deck is going to be entirely different. The Ruby / Sapphire deck i posted yesterday is also more affordable & I will try to include more budget options moving forwards.
I appreciate the feedback & will try to include that aspect in the videos moving forwards.
@SpeciLorcana I appreciate it! I mean I know it's important to nail down the most competitive version. I don't know what kind of casuals are out there like me who still like to be semi-competetive haha
The Meta is broken unless you play steel...bucky is broken
It's a good deck but I think it's mainly dominating because it's so good against ruby amethyst
whoever green lit diablo should be fired
Diablo POG
Rip
lets goooo love
All your thumbs are "foolish meta destroyed by Genesis deck!!!" Lol :)
Since I've been playing, this is the least fun the meta has been by a mile. It's so lame to play this deck. Not fun at all.
diablo will be the first banned card
Bucky is the problem.
@@jamesoncross19 lol no
This deck is so toxic. Literally makes the game unplayable. Robinhood needs to be limited asap.
Robin Hood is one of the least problematic cards here, it’s the cards *around* RH (Robin Hood) that make him seem good - lots of E/S (Emerald/Steel) lists have been cutting RH
What a boring no skill deck. I play floodborns to make you discard . Yeahhhhh gaeeeee
gay shouldn’t be an insult?