LSE Events | Alain de Botton | The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ธ.ค. 2010
- Speaker: Alain de Botton
This event was recorded on 26 November 2009 in Hong Kong Theatre, Clement House
This talk will raise a host of questions about the meaning and purpose of work - in particular investigating the effects of industrialisation and modernisation on the individual worker. Alain de Botton is a philosopher, author and entrepreneur.
To have leisure is to be extremely fortunate.
Dear Mr. Botton , wish you consider teaching this at high school too. That is where youth could use your knowledge in order to make their lives better .
A great author, to my particular interest is his view on the importance of Leisure time.
Alain has looked this way for a really long time
Lipi Rastogi He's immortal
He has drunk elixir of youth
Interesting what he talks about in the start here, about tourism not being interested in work. When I was in Thailand I had the pleasure of working on the rice fields for a week. I was there for three months, but that week was definitely the most interesting and enjoyable week. I really got the know the Thai farmers I was working alongside, I got to use my body in a new way, I learned about how to use a sickle and process rice.
I really thought that was a great idea for tourism, that more would want to have such an experience, and one could make a living accommodating for western tourists wanting to get to know the real life of a Thai farmer. But it's not. Back then, I was unemployed. I really cannot imagine myself having a good time doing that now.
Freud actually never said that the pillars of life are work and love in any of his written works. This is an opinion that Erik Eriksom claimed Freud had said to him in personal communication.
Awesome :D. Thankyou! I'll be exploring your videos for a long time :D
I hate working. It is slavery. Wage slavery. I would not be doing this job for the fun of it if they weren't paying me.
Long hours long hours, the best years of our lives given away to the economy.
+Madam Smellypits then we buy things ,,, we buy things with our best years
+Michael Johns your options are not other ppls options
It was just a suggestion, that's all. At least I'm trying to help; throwing ideas out there.
Madam Smellypits
About 95% of the worlds population stands squarely behind you, I believe the real answer should you be seeking one os to find meaning and satisfaction in at least one other area of your life.
Yes, yes, Woody Hutton
I'm just waiting for a guy to say I let women f* me, & bases his charge on five minute increments. that would be an enterprise right there
What a great video, so many interesting ideas to explore. Thank you LSE for uploading this!
yes I am suffering a crisis of both... rather daunting
Alain é Muito bom seus vídeos sobre filosofia são ótimos
0:23 OG says Cathereen in the most beautiful way possible
Great 👍
Remember, this is 10 years ago!
Charles Xavier, I knew he was real
2:12 for the proper start
47:30 eargasm
labore est orare? only if one believes in the deity being worshipped. For many, they worship only the next day off and the next paycheck as their job interferes with the time and attention they could spend on things that give them meaning and fufilment. Their job is purely a means to an end, as one can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear. Everybody cannot have jobs that are fufilling, meaningful and make them happy. Neither are they able to find more suitable work. As Maslow's hierarchy of needs suggests, the higher needs such as self-actualisation are unavailable until the lower order needs are met.
Polite Q >>> One should have a job like Dameron Poe In Star Wars. There´s nothing like hearing General Leia complain about that he MUST learn that he can´t simply fly around and shoot everything to pieces. Shortly after they´re attacked by hostile fighterplanes and he asks her: " - May I go out now and shoot everything to pieces?" and she replies: " - Permission granted!"
If english people could speak always such a clear english!! I can understand every single word
53:00 "We need a specialized economy...to ensure that the bottom 10-15% won't starve." Interesting how the lower and middle class seem to be the ones who suffer the most from a specialized capitalist economy. If those underprivileged classes were allowed the time and means by our economy to self-subsist, there would be much more community resilience when comes a famine.
Without a clear aim in life it is not possible to be happy. Most of us live life at an emotive level... go to work and do as told ..a bit of rationality. Return hom and be emotive. Being emotive we follow our desires and this causes issues within our families. Then there is uncertainty of death and becoming old. We need higher purpose of life and without this purpose money cannot address this issue. So what should we do? Read the book What is Islam by Parwez... a non religious work to help develop self ...
Work & love are meaningless if the soil, water, ocean, air, stratosphere is poisoned, rendered toxic to most species caused by legacy systems of organization of work (capitalism), making us dependent (advertising) on constant greater consumption of the very things that will ultimately destroy us.
It strikes me actually as a rather Marxist ideal, that is, that work is supposed to make us happy. This is not to say that Marx was wrong about exploitation and all the rest, only that perhaps his humanist ideals applied to the industrial age were newer than he thought.
Logistics. If they really wanted to end the rein of the horde and its machine they would focus their attention on certain logistical hubs. Remember, it's strength is it's weakness. Which is to say, numbers. Just keep the trucks and trains from running for a few days and they would be eating each other in the streets like starving dogs. These things have been known to happen. "War, children, is just a shot away, is just a shot away." No worries mate, just eating my daily toad :).
Could it be that lack of importance in how work is done is a cause for the loss of knowledge, it would have been nice for the Egyptians to have made a lot of stone carvings on how the pyramids were made, then some could have survived, are we suffering from the same phenomenon in our culture?
Well, knowledge on how things are done is strenuously protected information, for the simple fact that those that know it don't want to dilute their own value/employability. I was surprised that Alain overlooked this issue in his exploits... in other words, the fallacy of organizations wanting to share knowledge. In fact, knowledge is imparted as slowly as possible, to maximize the period during which the organization can exploit the worker.
Money
It sounded like he said, "And now I'll turn it over to Allah"
+xDMrGarrison Alainu Akbar
+Abdulelah Qutub 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ضحكتني يالسمي
Mr Botton seems a little nervous looking at the actions he makes while his introduction.. pfew 😅😄
Is a wealthy pampered person really the one to be lecturing about the sorrows of work?
You think people who have had earned success in their job, didn't overcome many sorrows along the way?
I read your comment and would ask this:
Do you think rich people should just shut up and enjoy their money?
Laborare est orare...Work is worship, a calling that fills and hallows your life. Alain's somewhat arbitrary coverage of the spectrum is punctuated with flashes of light-heartedness which sometimes verge on levity.
Studs Terkel's study of work and working provides insights which open windows on multifarious ways and means of fulfilment, engagement, and legitimate escapism.
How old are you
2021
love and work --- forgot health.
Pongalo en castellano tambien
love and work ... the two pilars of society. You can say that again. Especially to some minorities roaming our contnent.
It would be better (clearer) if he opened his mouth when he spoke.
He is clear enough, you must be deaf.
Umm that was umm a great speech ahh umm my intelligence is ahh wicked umm smart.
Alain de Botton wicked?
Everybody's favourite slap-headed, ruby lipped cod-philosopher doing what he does best, i:e stating the bleeding obvious with allusion to the giants of classical philosophy.
+Michael Johns What's real philosophy?
+Kendrick Jahn You got me! I'm a sham, I'm a fraud, a three dollar huckster, a rail station schlo, a mixed bag of nothing, an empty cartridge, a loser's shoe shine, a pawn shop brass knocker, a student euro-train pass (three years outta date), the last mango on the shelf, a freemason's only regret, a gutter snipe piece a dirt that don't deserve no sympathy.
+Michael Johns Wow, I ask a sincere question and that's what I get? Umm....okay then, nevermind.
+Kendrick Jahn don't feed the troll
You're making a massive oversimplification of the presentation, and you did it with petulance. Congrats.