I run the front facing Cycliq and a Garmin radar at the back. I’ve reported successfully quite a few idiot drivers close passes with the footage. This is a really good investment for any cyclist
I've had the fly12 sport for nearly 2 yrs. It's great. I've submitted a few near misses and never had an issue with reading numberplates. I love that I have a light and camera in one. That i only have to press the power button and the light and camera is turned on together. Recently it froze, customer support was great even though out of warranty. I managed to fix it with factory reset but they were prepared for me to return it to them and then send me a replacement.
I’ve Rode with the rear camera for a few years now. I had a Recent replacement under warranty and Cycliq replaced it no problems. It gives me added confidence on the road. I Ride to expect the worst behaviour its saved my life a few times. Some drivers do see it’s a camera and back off sometimes. Though I Still get close passes 🙄For me if I have an accident from the rear I have proof. Run time approx 4 hours old version. I’ll upgrade to the new one soon.
@Thezuule1 Nope. I don't listen to music. However, turning head - you can't do it as often as you check a mirror. It's a matter of situational awareness. It's not enough to check if there is a car when you decide to check, it is necessary to see the whole "movie". Simple physics: to know the speed of an object, you have to check at least twice. And this has to be done for each passing car, plus all the times where you need to be sure that there is no car, even if you don't hear anything. Plus, you need to also see if the incoming car is driving straight, is aggressive or defensive, etc. I'd rather ride without a helmet than without a mirror.
@@markotrieste by the time I see a car in a tiny mirror swerving to hit me it's probably too late already. Keeping my ears and eyes open is at least enough to know there's a vehicle there. To each their own but seriously wear your helmet. A mirror likely won't stop you from getting hit and a helmet might at least save your life when you do.
just remember that from a legal perspective, cameras can be a double edged sword... they can be used to prove that you did something wrong just as easily as they can prove that somebody else did something wrong, and if you did something wrong and delete the footage but the other person noticed you had "dash cams" that can not only hurt your case, by making you look more guilty, but you've also destroyed evidence which is a crime in itself. hypothetical you get hit while crossing against a traffic signal, not uncommon since a lot of signals don't get triggered by bicycles, but still against the law, your cameras will show that you crossed while the signal was red.
I had both fly 12 and a rear facing version. Both lasted justed over two years. The company were very hard to engage with. The rear heated up on charging and got so hot I took it off charge and the front justgave up. When it worked it was great but very expensive and really shoddy customer service. If you read lots of reviews on different videos this is not an unusual experience. I did not have the versions referred to in this video so they may have resolved this issues now
The camera is a reactive safety feature only (allows reporting)- anyone who thinks that car drivers etc will notice that your rear light is a camera and modify their behaviour are deluding themselves to justify the purchase. The fact that so many near misses are still being recorded is proof that the camera offers nothing in terms of proactive safety. You would be better spending money on a brighter rear and front light to make yourself more visible.
The limits with the Fly6 is that If it’s not on tight you can’t see the reg plates as no amount of stabilisation will compensate for massive camera shake. Took me a couple of spins to find the correct fitting on my aero seat post. The battery is great, even after 4hr ride still had juice. I charge everything after every spin, why take the chance. The picture is seriously sharp, only when the sun is directly behind you it’s very hard to see reg plates but this is the same for all cameras. On many occasion I could still make out the reg with the fly6 when the sun was at a slight angle. I’m now going to invest in the front light as there are situations that you do need both units to have complete confidence on the roads. I don’t part with money very easily when it comes to new tech but happy I did. 9/10
I have a Fly12 sport and it works well after one replacement unit. You can’t use the app to review footage filmed on the front camera. I have a garmin 715 RTC. I believe the new rear cycliq would be better than the Garmin recording quality wise. Plus you can review footage on the app of the rear camera. Something that is rubbish on the Garmin. But the Garmin has radar which I wouldn’t be without.
When added up together I think techalogic dc1 is a better option front and rear in same body, one sd card and visually distinctive so drivers know it is a camera
My biggest problem with the fly12 is that the front light is blending, no hi/lo beam option. Battery life of the fly6 is abysmal. However, especially for commute, I always use them both.
Have you tried if it can continue to work (record video) while charging? Because if you are like me mostly just commuting but occasionaly do an 8+ hour ride then just having some powerbank with you for those extra long rides would give you to choice to keep using it all day at the cost of a little additional weight carried with you.
I've used these before. From the early sets. My front light/camera finally died after about 7 years. I was really happy with it. It is only a battery issue, I only have about 3 hours of battery life now. The back light/camera's however are garbage. I have gone thru 4 of them in the same period. They ALWAY suffer a software failure that bricks the whole unit. Cycliq also does not seem keen to resolve any issues. It is always the unit has died, you need to buy a new one. My last one died 10 month into owning it, and I refuse to buy another.
@bulletprufrodo aww poo. I was hoping it would have something similar to Lumos or CatEye sync that would get everything up and running in one press before your ride
They work great on the road. I had the OGs, super heavy and kinda sucked. The next gen worked much better, but the cameras are shit at night, so if you commute in the dark they're useless. I don't know if they've updated the option, but it was annoying not being able to turn off the camera at night in order to get more battery life. An Insta360 (good lowlight video) with an Outbound light might be better for night riding. Need to give it a test.
While I love the concept. Cycliq had been nothing but trouble for me and some of my friends in terms of reliability and customer service. I don’t believe any of my Fly6’s ever lasted more than a few months.
I had the previous generation of these lights and after 1.5-2 years later both were ready for the trash. The switches to turn them on had broken and Cycliq did nothing to replace them but offered me 20% off a new light. They are way to expensive to last less than 2 years and Cycliq doesn't back up their products.
you think people who bought this didn't know that? You can say the same thing to car dash cam as they dont stop car from getting hit so why bother have any non-essential safety equipment at all? You can't imaging any other scenarios like: hit and run? Crash into other cyclist / people and need video to prove innocent to settle a lawsuit? Rear ended by careless driver who claimed that they're not text and driving?
How do these save one from an accident ? Maybe they would be useful in a legal action but would the evidence even be accepted in a court proceeding ? Is time, location, recorded and accurate ? Can that data be manipulated ? At best it seems they are possibly good after the fact of an incident, but not preventative.
The light output on these is terrible and the rear light doesn't even have a focusing lens to deal with the very low light output. I would absolutely not rely on these for my safety. My front light is 1000 lumen and my rear is 400 with a focusing lens and it's sufficient in the daylight, anything less just isn't.
@@comedyman112 for me that rear light wouldn't be bright enough for me to feel comfortable. My CatEye viz450 flashes BRIGHT and has a focusing lens that points the light directly at drivers. In the daylight I wouldn't use anything less. I noticed an improvement in the space people give me from the day I put it on my bike.
These would have been great had they incorporated radar. I do t care that I got hit afterwards if I’m dead. Having the video is helpful, but the varia radar has prevented so many accidents and keeps you aware of approaching cars. They missed a HUGE opportunity with this. My varia and GoPro do better for less.
I did try a camera plugged into the USB port on my ebike battery for extra runtime (5hrs would be great!), but _actually using it_ felt like too much faff. An ultra-low power wake circuit, to allow the camera to start recording upon motion, is a feature I'd dearly like! (Especially if the auto-start integrated with a wireless alert alarm feature)
I run both front and back and got a BMW driver an assault conviction for trying to run me over and getting out of car and spitting on me. Don't leave home without them!!!
Over priced and repair service is the worst. You will spend about $100 just for shipping it back to Australia due to the battery inside the camera. Also they don’t keep spare parts for previous generation products, so once broken, it’s gone.
You are complaing about the runtime ? It think they are the best out there , a bloody gopro only records (if you are lucky ) for 120 / 150 minutes. I guess they would be good for mounting on a motorbike to without all the hassle you get from installing 500 feet of cable with a front/rear camera special made for motorbikes. I would remove those camera's every time you need to leave the bike alone before they get stolen or destroyed ( a lot of w⚓⚓ around ) 😁😁👍👍 BUT, they are to expensive : 350 € for the rear and 300 € for the front ? Hell no. 🤮🤮👎👎
Multiple fails with Cycliq front cameras. They are a pain to return and exchange- EU warehouse centre, long process. Retailers are told not to accept them back. Both front and rear batteries are too small and DO NOT live up to quoted battery life in real life. Not fit for purpose. GoPro is a much better system.
Doesn't matter what you do, what special gear you use - you're NEVER safe on the roads in this country. (maybe in northern Scotland, but everyone knows Scotland doesn't count)
A compete and utter rip off. You can buy a dash cam from as little as £30. Weatherproofing, adding a light and a small lithium battery in no way adds up to another £280.
Its in your best interests to stay away from this company. The failure rate on all of their devices is near 50% and guarantee if you can finally get hold of the warranty team there is a 80% chance they will deny your claim for no logical reason. Also keep in mind this is a paid advertisement, performance of these devices is no where even close to this in real life.
I run the front facing Cycliq and a Garmin radar at the back. I’ve reported successfully quite a few idiot drivers close passes with the footage. This is a really good investment for any cyclist
I've had the fly12 sport for nearly 2 yrs. It's great. I've submitted a few near misses and never had an issue with reading numberplates.
I love that I have a light and camera in one. That i only have to press the power button and the light and camera is turned on together.
Recently it froze, customer support was great even though out of warranty. I managed to fix it with factory reset but they were prepared for me to return it to them and then send me a replacement.
Hands down. I own the front camera and back. When the driver’s notice the camera. Like they respect u more. Literally.
I'm thinking to add a small sign too.
This is the best explanation of why I might try one of these, deterrence. 🤔
Drivers around here doesn't even see the cyclist, much less that theres a camera.
Not as much as my lights flashing the colors of the US flag here in the states. Drivers notice the patriotism and respect it more
They don't respect you any more, they just fear their shit driving will have some consequences. Thats not respect.
The BEST way to stay safe on the road would be REAL cycling infrastructure, and banning motorvehicles inside city limits.
The price is just not fine.
I’ve Rode with the rear camera for a few years now. I had a Recent replacement under warranty and Cycliq replaced it no problems.
It gives me added confidence on the road. I Ride to expect the worst behaviour its saved my life a few times.
Some drivers do see it’s a camera and back off sometimes. Though I Still get close passes 🙄For me if I have an accident from
the rear I have proof.
Run time approx 4 hours old version. I’ll upgrade to the new one soon.
I have the older versions of both. Would be great if they can add radar to the rear. I'd consider upgrading then. The front is definitely heavy
You can save the money of the radar with a simple mirror.
@@markotrieste you can save even more money by not listening to music and looking over your shoulder once in a while. 🤫
@Thezuule1 Nope. I don't listen to music. However, turning head - you can't do it as often as you check a mirror. It's a matter of situational awareness. It's not enough to check if there is a car when you decide to check, it is necessary to see the whole "movie". Simple physics: to know the speed of an object, you have to check at least twice. And this has to be done for each passing car, plus all the times where you need to be sure that there is no car, even if you don't hear anything. Plus, you need to also see if the incoming car is driving straight, is aggressive or defensive, etc.
I'd rather ride without a helmet than without a mirror.
@@markotrieste by the time I see a car in a tiny mirror swerving to hit me it's probably too late already. Keeping my ears and eyes open is at least enough to know there's a vehicle there. To each their own but seriously wear your helmet. A mirror likely won't stop you from getting hit and a helmet might at least save your life when you do.
@@Thezuule1 😂 you are not well versed in risk analysis, are you?
anything has to be better than nothing, I never had any close calls until moving to FL
I’m a fan of the Radar - especially that it responds to traffic behind and gives you a clear idea of what’s coming. I’m far from sure about cameras.
£299 for the front, £319 for the rear. (I know they say it, but it's the most salient information and it's hidden 7:15 in)
everything in cycling seems to have become a small fortune.
Bike cameras have become something that exists.
@@davidmurphy9151 Incorrect, bicycle cameras have existed since the Anthony Bicycle Camera in 1885.
Well cycling is a hobby, not a necessity. If you’re wealthy enough to indulge in non essential activities, you don’t get to have it cheap
@@slowcyclist4324 also incorrect, it may be a hobby for you, but not for everyone. For some, it is the only form of transportation.
@slowcyclist4324 That's why your only a SLOW cyclist.
I *really* wish someone would make a front camera with a see/be seen light (1000+ lumens plus a flash mode)
just remember that from a legal perspective, cameras can be a double edged sword... they can be used to prove that you did something wrong just as easily as they can prove that somebody else did something wrong, and if you did something wrong and delete the footage but the other person noticed you had "dash cams" that can not only hurt your case, by making you look more guilty, but you've also destroyed evidence which is a crime in itself. hypothetical you get hit while crossing against a traffic signal, not uncommon since a lot of signals don't get triggered by bicycles, but still against the law, your cameras will show that you crossed while the signal was red.
What a convoluted way to say nothing at all
I rather have a rear facing radar unit than a camera. The radar may save your life, the camera will just show thew movie!
I had both fly 12 and a rear facing version. Both lasted justed over two years. The company were very hard to engage with. The rear heated up on charging and got so hot I took it off charge and the front justgave up. When it worked it was great but very expensive and really shoddy customer service. If you read lots of reviews on different videos this is not an unusual experience. I did not have the versions referred to in this video so they may have resolved this issues now
The camera is a reactive safety feature only (allows reporting)- anyone who thinks that car drivers etc will notice that your rear light is a camera and modify their behaviour are deluding themselves to justify the purchase. The fact that so many near misses are still being recorded is proof that the camera offers nothing in terms of proactive safety. You would be better spending money on a brighter rear and front light to make yourself more visible.
Cycliq fly12 sport after a year of use barely lasts 2h and that without light.
The limits with the Fly6 is that If it’s not on tight you can’t see the reg plates as no amount of stabilisation will compensate for massive camera shake. Took me a couple of spins to find the correct fitting on my aero seat post. The battery is great, even after 4hr ride still had juice. I charge everything after every spin, why take the chance. The picture is seriously sharp, only when the sun is directly behind you it’s very hard to see reg plates but this is the same for all cameras. On many occasion I could still make out the reg with the fly6 when the sun was at a slight angle. I’m now going to invest in the front light as there are situations that you do need both units to have complete confidence on the roads. I don’t part with money very easily when it comes to new tech but happy I did. 9/10
I have a Fly12 sport and it works well after one replacement unit. You can’t use the app to review footage filmed on the front camera. I have a garmin 715 RTC. I believe the new rear cycliq would be better than the Garmin recording quality wise. Plus you can review footage on the app of the rear camera. Something that is rubbish on the Garmin. But the Garmin has radar which I wouldn’t be without.
When added up together I think techalogic dc1 is a better option front and rear in same body, one sd card and visually distinctive so drivers know it is a camera
They seem like a sensible investment. Though they are pricey. Can their rechargeable batteries be replaced ?
Not replace batterries, but the baterry it’s type c charge
No
@@DiegoHorchata Thank you !
@@markotrieste Thank you !
My biggest problem with the fly12 is that the front light is blending, no hi/lo beam option. Battery life of the fly6 is abysmal. However, especially for commute, I always use them both.
Have you tried if it can continue to work (record video) while charging? Because if you are like me mostly just commuting but occasionaly do an 8+ hour ride then just having some powerbank with you for those extra long rides would give you to choice to keep using it all day at the cost of a little additional weight carried with you.
I've used these before. From the early sets. My front light/camera finally died after about 7 years. I was really happy with it. It is only a battery issue, I only have about 3 hours of battery life now. The back light/camera's however are garbage. I have gone thru 4 of them in the same period. They ALWAY suffer a software failure that bricks the whole unit. Cycliq also does not seem keen to resolve any issues. It is always the unit has died, you need to buy a new one. My last one died 10 month into owning it, and I refuse to buy another.
Do you have to turn them on and start recording individually.. Or does powering up one, turn the other one on automatically?
You have to turn them on individually.
@bulletprufrodo aww poo. I was hoping it would have something similar to Lumos or CatEye sync that would get everything up and running in one press before your ride
You sound seriously lazy
@@bikeman123 take a look at the "CATEYE SYNC Lights Demo Video" from 2 years ago.
They work great on the road. I had the OGs, super heavy and kinda sucked. The next gen worked much better, but the cameras are shit at night, so if you commute in the dark they're useless. I don't know if they've updated the option, but it was annoying not being able to turn off the camera at night in order to get more battery life. An Insta360 (good lowlight video) with an Outbound light might be better for night riding. Need to give it a test.
The Fly12 Sport loses battery health long term. Can barely get four hours now on full battery just with the camera and no lights
While I love the concept. Cycliq had been nothing but trouble for me and some of my friends in terms of reliability and customer service. I don’t believe any of my Fly6’s ever lasted more than a few months.
I had the previous generation of these lights and after 1.5-2 years later both were ready for the trash. The switches to turn them on had broken and Cycliq did nothing to replace them but offered me 20% off a new light. They are way to expensive to last less than 2 years and Cycliq doesn't back up their products.
You keep yourself safe. Cameras do nothing to keep you safe, they don't stop you from getting hit.
you think people who bought this didn't know that? You can say the same thing to car dash cam as they dont stop car from getting hit so why bother have any non-essential safety equipment at all?
You can't imaging any other scenarios like: hit and run? Crash into other cyclist / people and need video to prove innocent to settle a lawsuit? Rear ended by careless driver who claimed that they're not text and driving?
Both cameras are great but night recording is still not great.
Check tha latest update imac or windox or change it. May be defrected
Not saying cycling kit manufacturers think we're dumb but if these cameras were for anything else they'd be half the price:)
I'm surprised it's even more than a Garmin 715
Rear needs a radar
Yah, Garmin really set the bar high with the Varia products.
How do these save one from an accident ? Maybe they would be useful in a legal action but would the evidence even be accepted in a court proceeding ? Is time, location, recorded and accurate ? Can that data be manipulated ? At best it seems they are possibly good after the fact of an incident, but not preventative.
Memory card App.Time and date 100% acurrated. Just try it. Life changer
just 400 Lumens for the front light?
The light output on these is terrible and the rear light doesn't even have a focusing lens to deal with the very low light output. I would absolutely not rely on these for my safety. My front light is 1000 lumen and my rear is 400 with a focusing lens and it's sufficient in the daylight, anything less just isn't.
@@Thezuule1 just got a 1200lumens front light and a rear Varia RTL515 with a max of 65lumens...and all that I think is just a decent base minimum
@@comedyman112 for me that rear light wouldn't be bright enough for me to feel comfortable. My CatEye viz450 flashes BRIGHT and has a focusing lens that points the light directly at drivers. In the daylight I wouldn't use anything less. I noticed an improvement in the space people give me from the day I put it on my bike.
These would have been great had they incorporated radar. I do t care that I got hit afterwards if I’m dead. Having the video is helpful, but the varia radar has prevented so many accidents and keeps you aware of approaching cars. They missed a HUGE opportunity with this. My varia and GoPro do better for less.
Never found a camera that can capture a numberplate on a car passing you at speed on a bumpy road in low light.
How the hell can a camera keep you safe?
The light…… possibly. I’d rather wear reflective or bright clothing. But a camera???
Please explain??
Cameras get bad drivers educated, held accountable and off the roads
@ how does keep the rider safe though??? Enlighten me
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I did try a camera plugged into the USB port on my ebike battery for extra runtime (5hrs would be great!), but _actually using it_ felt like too much faff.
An ultra-low power wake circuit, to allow the camera to start recording upon motion, is a feature I'd dearly like!
(Especially if the auto-start integrated with a wireless alert alarm feature)
I run both front and back and got a BMW driver an assault conviction for trying to run me over and getting out of car and spitting on me. Don't leave home without them!!!
€ 780 for lights and cameras that's a "friendly" price lol , I bet I can get this for < € 78 on Ali by getting 2 camera's and front/rear lights ;)
Over priced and repair service is the worst.
You will spend about $100 just for shipping it back to Australia due to the battery inside the camera.
Also they don’t keep spare parts for previous generation products, so once broken, it’s gone.
No. The best way is to switch to gravel and not go anywhere near roads. And I'm saying that with 40 years road cycling behind me...
That doesn't work in the city
You are complaing about the runtime ? It think they are the best out there , a bloody gopro only records (if you are lucky ) for 120 / 150 minutes. I guess they would be good for mounting on a motorbike to without all the hassle you get from installing 500 feet of cable with a front/rear camera special made for motorbikes. I would remove those camera's every time you need to leave the bike alone before they get stolen or destroyed ( a lot of w⚓⚓ around ) 😁😁👍👍 BUT, they are to expensive : 350 € for the rear and 300 € for the front ? Hell no. 🤮🤮👎👎
Yeah, never got more than 40 minutes (at reduced res) on mine!
How can it “save your life”? 🤔
No radar, no buy. Simple.
Multiple fails with Cycliq front cameras. They are a pain to return and exchange- EU warehouse centre, long process. Retailers are told not to accept them back. Both front and rear batteries are too small and DO NOT live up to quoted battery life in real life. Not fit for purpose. GoPro is a much better system.
Doesn't matter what you do, what special gear you use - you're NEVER safe on the roads in this country.
(maybe in northern Scotland, but everyone knows Scotland doesn't count)
These cameras had so many issues because I wanted to buy one but the brand is known for shitty products
Over £600 for two dedicated cameras ! That is plain ridiculous, seems every thing from this company is hugely marked up / over priced
The price is to damn high.
radar please!!!!!
Shouldn't need this tech. The problem is drivers.
A compete and utter rip off. You can buy a dash cam from as little as £30. Weatherproofing, adding a light and a small lithium battery in no way adds up to another £280.
if a vehicles wants to slam into your bike, nothing you can do. stop wasting money.
Its in your best interests to stay away from this company. The failure rate on all of their devices is near 50% and guarantee if you can finally get hold of the warranty team there is a 80% chance they will deny your claim for no logical reason. Also keep in mind this is a paid advertisement, performance of these devices is no where even close to this in real life.