I think some fragrances have gotten away with being unreasonably overpriced and take advantage of that. I like clones for several reasons. 1 they give everyone a chance to sample things there's no way they could afford. 2 they add twists to them where they can be almost better than the original 3 Some of them last even longer than the original. Especially if they get reformulated. 4 There's a lot of discontinued fragrances that are pretty much impossible to get, but these clone houses make it possible to have fragrances you couldn't otherwise get. 5 I'm hoping they'll force houses to make the originals more affordable to compete with them. There's many other reasons, that's just the first few that came to my mind.
The answer to point 5 is that It's not likely to happen cause of your point 1: clones and high end lovers are different targets of people, and who buy originals wouldn't even think about buying clones.
Come to europe, we get designer bottles for way cheaper than on official sites and in america and its all official fragrance, not fake or anything, dont know how
@@neoNashShaggy it doesn't matter, fragrances are still one of the most overpriced goods. Most of them (niche fragrances included) have production costs of less than 5 dollars yet are prices over 100. Tahta one reason to support clones in my opinion.
Zero sympathy for niche brands, charge a fair price and the clone brands wouldnt be so prevalent. Creed in particular, greedy so and so's. Crazy prices and awful performances.
Every major department and grocery store has generic products on their shelves of dang near every product they offer in their store. I consider clones to be the exact same thing as all those products in those stores and absolutely nothing wrong with them at all.
The Fragcomm forgets that they're a tiny minority in regards to the general population. Most average people have zero idea regarding clones and the clone industry and will stay with the big names cause thats all they know. I love clones and I love the legit stuff too.
Personally, i think they're only dangerous to fragrance houses, not willing to admit that their matierals aren't worth that much. Im sorry, but take bacarogue 540 and lataffa Rogue. 20 bucks online for a 500 dollar fragrance that's a pretty close copy to bacarogue 540. Fragrance houses only affect the industry in trying to stop over pricing their stuff for no reason other than maintaining a %200 mark up for a fragrance that isn't that complicated. Honestly, i end up liking clones more often because they do help me in my dating life and my budget. Otherwise lets be real clones are good for people who know them, because most guys know nothing of clones and buy retail. Personally, i will buy clones until the actual become more affordable.
I just flat out can’t afford to pay over 100$ for fragrances at this point in my life. I’ll get the real stuff later when the real money comes in, but for now clones are just awesome.
Decants are amazing. I use the clone most of the time and every once in a while when there's a special occasion I grab a spray of the real deal from a 10ml vial.
Big brands asking too much for their fragrance. I believe no designer brand deserve more than 70 dollars for 100ml. Including Dior Homme Intense, Bleu de Chanel etc.
As a Southeast Asian foreigner living in the middle East now, I have a very different reason to buy 'clones': Sephora and many of the high class stores that sell perfumes and fragrances here in my place are borderline racist to non Arabs (this was pre pandemic, I still have no plans returning to those now). A lot of the reputable local brands (Arabian Oud, Aldakheel, Oud Elite, Abdulsamad etc) have similar smelling frags at a fraction of the price and better service. And let me point out the elephant in the room about the Montale company, they started as a 'clone' brand.
I love these types of videos where you just discuss a topic. The reviews and lists are good too, but I'd love to see a few of these a month if there are enough topics.
I too jumped on the clone hype train (never purchased clones before) and purchased quite a few clones to see if the hype was real. I have to admit, there are some fantastic clones out there and I can see why it's "taking over" the fragrance world/market. You're spot on Ash by saying the clone houses will continue to pump out more and more fragrances with incredible accuracy! I believe fragrance houses are taking notice of the impact the clones are making so therefore are now only listing very minimal notes (3 notes) to deter them from being cloned. ( no evidence of such claim, just my thought).
Yeah but most these notes can still be reverse engineered with proper lab machinery. Not stating wont stop anything and reality most designer overcharge for their product which also use synthetic chemistry.
@@d7r_tv Oh I'm sure they are being reversed engineered to get the most accurate note reading. I just think these fragrance houses are just doing whatever they can to dissuade them much as possible, however futile it may be.
@@HansenSC Pretty much. Middle Management in these companies don't use the brain that much. An habit everyone gets after heavy indoctrination and lack of critical thinking in their PhDs.
With modern lab gear and synthetics in fragrances, even natural things, there are multiple machines to give you the exact chemical makeup of the original, and it can easily be replicated in a lab. Science! I think the just listing 3 notes is a cop-out by houses. I'm mad at houses like Armani discontinuing Code Profumo and Absolu, and I feel like things I have enjoyed keep getting discontinued for some parfum twice the price with not even very many notes listed, like "come try it at the store and pay full retail, consoooooomer."
I don't care for clones. As far as I am concerned, the biggest demand for clones are coming from fragrance collectors, who want to build a collection focusing on quantity over quality. If a friend asked me to buy this, or that clone, or even several different ones, I'd tell to choose the best smelling clone and save up for the original. I agree that new fragrances are expensive, although they create something new, to put it in a different aspect, you also pay for the patent. Also, the recent clone relases are getting more and more expensive, so in that $40- $60 price range, you can find original, yet affordable fragrances from well-respected houses like Cartier, or Gueralin. Long story short, choose quality over quantity.
In my experience, the only people that like to rip on clones are the types of people who, at some point in their lives, were told that having money is a viable substitute for having any form of personality whatsoever.
That’s the only reason you can see someone hating on clones? Not the fact that they often are low quality, are ripping off artists, and feed into consumerism for people who don’t have money to spend? Dua’s literally cost more per ml than most designer fragrances and many niche.
@@evaneugenescottWouldn't purchasing the more expensive product be feeding into consumerism? You'd be spending amounts that you can't afford in order to perpetuate some illusory notion of prestige or elitism. Generally speaking if I can purchase something at 3x less the price for comparable, equal or better quality ... then I'm being smart about my money. Ultimately it's a free market and if you can provide me with a good/ or ideally better product for less money then more power to you. I can only say from experience that the dupes I've bought and seen reviewed are tremendous.
I love cologne, I love to smell good but I find it absurd and a waste of money to pay $300 plus for any frag. For me I am happy that these clones are exposing that all you are paying for is the name and braging about how rich you are. "I have a $500 dollar cologne, look how rich I am!" Oh yeah well I have a cologne that smells 90%-95% the same as your $500 bottle and nobody can tell the difference when I am wearing it because cologne smells a little different on everyone, oh and guess what, I only paid $30 for it! I can now smell good at a fraction of the price. I don't care about what other people think I don't care about status, I just like to smell good and if I can smell just as good spending $30 as the person next to me that spent $500 then I am all for it!
It just sounds like you don’t have much disposable income! Shame shame! I feel bad because there are some things in life you will never experience. Especially if you think $500 is expensive for a cologne! It’s not! Some of my Rojas are $3000 and believe me there is a massive difference between exclusive, fragrances and clones! Life has levels, and not everybody will be able to save the princess from Donkey Kong!!!!!
I use to have a massive designer and niche collection. One day my friend he was wearing a clone and smelled amazing. I asked what fragrance you wearing and he said club de nuit intense. That moment spending all this money on designer and niche isn’t worth it for someone like me. The clones come very close and with better performance
Absolutely, I buy clones to see if I would actually wear the real one. I own several due to clones. I guess it depends on where you're at on your journey.
Hey Ash, I bought a lot of clones mainly from lattafa and armaf after seeing the hype, and my honest opinion is that most of them have a harsh opening and some even develop an unpleasant smell, I was heavily disappointed with Ameer Aloudh intense oud for example, that smell makes me sick, but for $12, I couldn’t care less about it, CDNIM LE has a harsh opening but after that it’s perfectly fine, but that was all UAE clone houses, but when I tried Lalique’s white in black which is “inspired by Layton” I reaaaally loved it, so I’d say designer clones or inspired by’s are better than straight up clone houses imo
In general I feel the same. For instance Detour Noir is very decent clone of Layton, but it wears weird and I don’t care for it after an hour or so. I just use Layton instead when I want that profile. There have been a few others like that too. They either cause skin irritation, have a cheap opening or they wear weird and develops an odd funk. I’m sure some are fine though.
@@James7995 interesting you bring up detour noir and Layton. Ive been wearing detour noir consistently for the last few months and like it a lot, but today i went back to Layton and realized that Layton is a much better scent than i remember. Im going to wear Lalique White in Black again for the next few weeks and then go back to Layton and see how that feels...
Don’t really think it is an issue because of the insane markup of designers and niches. Nevertheless, appreciate your honest opinion and how you’re not a snob despite having a collection of originals that you would arguably never be able to finish. Thanks as always
I'm a bit split on the issue. On the one hand, some fragrances like Bvlgari's Tygar are unnecessarily expensive, so grabbing a clone of that is kinda justified because Bvlgari's being overly greedy. But the standard of what might be considered unnecessarily expensive is subjective. What someone might find unnecessarily expensive may not be excessive to someone else. Then there's also the whole stealing someone else's intellectual property, changing a few notes and then putting it out themselves. When someone else does this very thing in other artforms, it's considered theft, so should it be considered theft in the artform of perfumery. Like most things, it's so subjective and people's opinions are going to vary. I do have some clones but in most cases I do own the original fragrance as well. I do also have some "inspired by" fragrances that are different enough from the original to not be considered a clone... but that too is subjective. So, just buy what you want and enjoy it for what it is. And YES, let them clone and put out stuff that was great but discontinued. I'm all onboard with that way of doing it.
If the originals were more reasonably priced 90+% of people would get them and also if they stopped discontinuing great fragrances no need for clones of those either.
The big designer brands never lost a sale from me because I was never gonna buy at those prices. However, once I fall in like with a scent because the clone was a winner - yep I'm gonna pony up for the designer (and wear it on special occasions).
I don't have an issue with clones. I guess I currently only own 1 (CDNIM), but if I found a good one that was a clone of a severally overpriced fragrance I'd probably buy it. And I did once buy my son a Walmart clone of Invictus, and he absolutely loved it. So when that bottle was empty, I bought him a bottle of the real thing. But MOST people don't walk by someone wearing a fragrance and think "he's wearing *such-n-such*". They just think "oh he smells good". Most people dont know what fragrances smell like. They just know good or bad smell. EDIT I do own like 6 or more Cremo fragrances, and I guess they're clones also. So I guess I own more than one.
Genuinely can't understand why anyone would be against clones in general. Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of DUA but I don't have an issue with them being sold or people liking them. Most of us started with clones to some degree and you are spot on when you say that they're excellent gateways to buying the real deal. Just have a reason to save up your cash when you know how good the reward is. Send in the clones!
I feel zero remorse about purchasing clones. I wear them every day. If each cologne was completely individual from every other scent there might be a case for 'ownership' of a scent profile... But every cologne is a 'twist' on something that came before. Very rarely is there something that comes along that is unique and different. Whether you like to admit it or not, even though it has a designer label on it, people are wearing clones/inspired by/dupes... Why pay 100$+ for a clone? Seriously, how many designer colognes smell like Aventus, Bleu de Chanel, Sauvage, BR540? They are all at least 'adjacent' to something else.. So are clones, they are just honest about not being original. Don't care how much money I make, no stinky juice is worth hundreds of dollars, because the clone houses are proving you can do it for 20-40$. Just sayin.
Clones help them even more, they are priced for a certain demographic, those people would still buy them and people who cant would opt out for the clone and some of the people that like that product alot would save up to obtain the original. That is why you rarely see them suing fakes. Clones become a doorway to their products eventually.
There's no reason I should spend hundreds of dollars for a weak fragrance when I could buy an Amraf that not only performs better but is light on my wallet. Major designer frag companies have been ripping people off for a long time and infact I believe they've been diluting their frags on purpose. Perfumery was never meant to be an expensive hobby in ancient times. People used all kinds of scented oils then the major companies stepped in slapped a designer brand and inflated the prices
I got to know clone fragrances because of your videos, Ash. I have many of the Original/real deals, and then curious about what the clones smell like. There are many good clone fragrances for the price point. I do enjoy wearing them causally. But the non-deniable fact that the clones’ s quality are lower than the real deal in general. I do not regret to own any of the originals/real deals, but for something I don’t wear often, such like Interlude, BR540, Angels Share….I don’t mind to use the clones to fill the space. Clone fragrances exist and thrive for a reason, people just want to smell good. Nothing wrong with that.
Great video! I do know that while fragrances aren't patented, certain synthetic molecules are and we might find brands making fragrances that are built upon these so that it would be impossible to dupe. But then again, at that point I wonder just how important it will be to us to have dupes of those. It ceases to be about great fragrances but about the acrobatics of smelling good in a world of patented syntheticism. Usually, artists are copied once they're dead and it's considered a tribute and fondly looked upon. But when they aren't dead yet, it looks like you're stealing their thunder. But, we aren't all Rembrandts. And we're not being asked to just buy endless amounts of museum tickets. We're being asked to take these babies home and brand ourselves through sillage with their vision. So, there comes a certain tussle between the whole my-body-my-choice dialogue and the artist's prerogative piece. My take away- don't be offended if you got duped. Don't be offended by my dupe collection. I don't just have dupes either. I love a modest collection that I can share with others around me (I'm frequently giving out samples) and I don't have a budget that supports me doing that kind of thing out of $200-$500 bottles.
I dig the clones, dupes, inspired by frags. I definitely have my fair share of Lattafa, Armaf, Al Haramain, Misoni, and Paris Corner to name a few. I even have a few ALT, Dua, Dossier, and Oil Perfumery stuff. These clones help me learn what big niche houses or designer houses I wanted to buy. I can over spray and get the full effect of the fragrance using the clone instead of a little sample of the real thing. Now I own a dozen or so niche and designer frags because I did that. Clones should be embraced. My opinion.😊
In Brazil designer fragrances (even cheap ones) cost like haft of a minimum wage, blue de channel edt is the price of the minimum wage, using clones or national original fragrances is the only way you can have acess to multiple fragrances, and there are national clone producers that does a really good job on some fragrances
Personally I have no dog in this fight, but as clones get better and better, and word starts to get around to the general public, I can't imagine that some of the major fragrance conglomerates aren't going to start paying attention and begin to push lawmakers around the world to do something about it. Clones should be around at least a little while longer, but in the end, big money usually wins.
i like to purchase clones. however, my friends do not for the following 2 reasons: 1) you don't get as much excitement and satisfaction. it's like cheating in a game. winning fair & square is fun, but hacking gets boring very quickly. 2) it doesn't look as good on your shelf. it looks like a shelf full of random arab perfumes, and i feel like people respect you less once they find out you buy dupes. these reasons won't stop me from buying dupes, as i'm broke, but they are good reasons to think about. i hope people can reply and give me their opinion on these takes.
Did you see that fake Al Haramain Amber Oud flankers are appearing? They're in identical bottles and are called "Amber Oud Exclusif Blue," Exclusif Sport" etc. But their bottles don't have the Haramain name on them and apparently someone else makes them. Neeb at Aromatix did a video on this a couple days ago.
One of my favorite scents is Prada Luna Rossa Black. Ive heard it compared to Midnight in Paris and Bvlgari Black, but i havent smelled either of those and they've both been discontinued for a while now. I hope the clone houses would recreate both Midnight in Paris and Bvlgari Black so I can get to experience those scents. Its also been said that Prada LR Black is going to be discontinued as well, which will make me extremely sad...
Luna Rosa black is the better of the 3 Bvlgari black is nice just weak performance midnight in Paris was a 30 dollar bottle that nobody cared about until it was discontinued and the legend began but honestly it's not worth buying again Prada checks all the boxes
Quite a lot of them are badly overhyped by YT influencers & really not that close to the og's, It's not just the smell, it's the way it hits your nose.
Spot on point. That's how I feel about Khamrah, TBH. Angels Share is a winter signature frag for me for a while now.. Ordered that clone because of YT-er hype, and I think it smells like a mess. Hits the nose like a truck.
I'm a sneaker head as well as into fragrances... It's amazing to see the differences between the communities. Clones are essentially "knockoffs" but they're widely accepted in the fragrance community yet heavily frowned upon in the sneaker community. I buy retail sneakers as well as reps and I will continue to buy clones of fragrances if I find one that I like better than the original.
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There are clone brands that do a lot of discountinued stuff. At least here in Europe i know of some. Perfume Parlour is meking really good ones, Shobi as well. No idea about their US shipping, but its worth a look.
If counterfeiting or replicas feel wrong - why is cloning to the point of copying the scent, bottle and packaging different? They should produce their own distinct artistic offering. To buyers, save up, decants, swap, wait until you reach a milestone
No brainer from me. I have a few clones and designers. I use clones day to day to preserve my designer frags. Recently am looking to find clones of discoed scents in case a backup bottle is too out of reach. The only worry is still clones are poorly done, even cheap it feels like a waste of money
The journey to find the clone is much more entertaining than looking at the price at the store in disgust. I will pay regular price for something that is proven.
In my opinion, appreciate the clone houses, but respect the original house who created the fragrance. The only reason clone houses are doing insanely well is also because the original house created the fragrance and causes others to be inspired by them and clone it at an affordable price
Don't understand why clones get a bad rep, they perform alot better than most of the original/designer releases for a much more affordable price and unless your really into your fragrances, realistically on a day to day basis not many people wear a fragrance. If you like a certain scent profile and can save £30-50 on getting clone that performs better why not? The majority of people who compliment you won't care if it's designer or not. I've been enjoying looking into certain clones/clone houses where I can pick up a few scents I've always wanted to try but have not been able to get hold of them due to the cost of the designer price tag.
Its strange, for some reason I've not found a clone that I like. Bought Club De Nuit Intense Man and Latffa Asad. Those are the most popular. Not impressed. I definetly want to try The Tux.
I use your videos and others of clones to see if I like the dna to buy the original vs jumping off a cliff buy an expensive name fragrance and I don't like the dna. It's a safe cost effective way to test out clones
I find it funny that the big brands all say clones are bad. Yet how many major niche and designer brands copy each other. How many are doing ‘their take’ on Aventus?
I disagree with most everyone. The value isn’t just in the scent, the bottle, or the brand. The value in anything is being an original. The cost of creating, developing, marketing, and potential of failure, is all in being an original. The fake, the imitation is not valuable because it is built on the backs of someone else’s work, investment, and creation. That’s why people pay big money to see an original band, but pay almost nothing to see a cover band. Furthermore, this is the only enthusiast community that encourages people to buy the fake, the frauds, and the dupes. No apparel influencer is wanting you to buy Chinese knock off polo shirts. No watch enthusiasts are encouraging you to buy fake Rolexes. And no golf enthusiasts encourage you to buy fake equipment. Period. Lastly, there should be an aspirational part of this all. You can’t always have what you want right away. Save your money. Quality over quantity. If it is worth having it is worth waiting for. Don’t tell me you can’t afford an original, but then have a shelf full on fragrances. You have that choice, for sure, but be honest about it. Don’t blame the prices of the original, or say the original isn’t as good…just be honest. You don’t have to have a lot of money to have a few quality fragrances.
There is a brand from the UK called “My Signature Aroma” their niche collection is unbelievable, over 4000 fragrances within their inventory and i would say 95% close to high end fragrances on the market
Luckaly non of the perfumes I have in my collection have a clone (yet). Most of them either aren't hyped anymore, or are just to old school to be loved by the mass nowadays. Because only the perfumes which have a moneytrain, get an actual clone trying to get on board. I do love the idea for clone houses, to recreate discontinued perfumes. As long as they stay away from the pet sematary...
I don't plan to ever have a huge collection. So as interesting as it is to hear about clones, and I have nothing negative to say about them at all, at this point in my life I prefer to get the originals.
I smelt star nebula many times but because I do not know the original smell I did not buy it and I think its near to the A men original. What do you think of it 😊
While I’m seeing this video I wore a clone of ADG Profumo “Jorge Di Profumo” from Miason Alhambra and it’s really nice clone , most of my collection are clones , I saves my money man.
I'm not in a position to spend £100 every month or two for a new fragrance so clones are my go to. I will buy a decant now and again as well though. Perfume Parlour and KDJ Inspired do great clones in the UK.
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I’m really on the fence about this one. I liked them at first when I started my journey. I bought into a lot of hype and picked up a few. What I’ve found is there is always a trade off and most of the time my wife says they smell cheap. I realized I’m very sensitive to some to the cheaper oils that are used in clones. About half of the clones out there give me a pounding headache within minutes. Sad. Now I just find the 5-10ml decants of expensive fragrances and get the real thing and it’s a much better experience with no headache and my wife doesn’t make me take a shower. The only time I really get interested now is a Tygar situation. It’s an amazing but simple scent. It’s not the hardest scent to clone and maybe there is bomb clones out there. Otherwise I’m getting a decant of the real thing and saving if I like it. Just my take. With discounters getting 90% of the fragrances out there (if you look around and wait a while) your paying Pennies on the dollar to get the real thing sometimes.
I think a clone house doing the entire line of Mugler Pure line would be a goldmine. Ultra Zest clone for $35.00?? I’ll take two! The possibilities are endless and very profitable.
I used to own a short-lived online fragrance retailer website just before I went into retirement, and now I am on a fixed income. I can tell you that the clones back on those days were terrible. I closed down right about the time Armaf Club de Nuit Intense Man came out, which, in my opinion, got the entire "quality" clone business rolling. That being said, I will take almost-perfect, high-quality clones over the WAY, WAY overpriced niche and designer frags any day, anytime, anywhere!!! I have received more compliments with Club de Nuit Intense than any other scent, bar-none, the close runner-up being Versace Eros Flame. My hope is that these clones will force the greedy, overpriced companies to lower their prices. They have GOT to be feeling the backlash in their bank accounts ... no doubt.
I wonder if this has had an impact on the lack of recent designer releases. I have no real problem with clones but once they start copying the branding, the bottle and the packaging then it's something I am less inclined to pay for.
Id really like to hear from someone who works for the designer fragrance industry (or a big niche name) WHY exactly prices are so high. Like how much of it is economics vs profiteering and name-value association. You do get what you pay for to a certain extent; I know anything I buy from Amouage or Creed is going to be high quality, even if it's not my thing. But there is a point of diminishing returns. Kind of like wine. The $500 bottle of wine is not 25x better than the $20 of wine. Better, for sure, but it's about rarity, vintage, vineyard, community esteem, etc.
The clones are amazing in their own sense, but most clones never get the scent down 100%. If I like the real thing, I just still get the actual scent from discounters. Or if I’m a fan of the brand, I don’t mind supporting their company. I mostly buy the clone to spray a bubble around my home, kind of a splurge of something close to the scent i enjoy
I've tried Zara, Alt, and last month Dua. I'm done! I'd rather get a decant of niche that I really want rather than a synthetic chemical smelling dupe. Just my 2 cents
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TIP: Best way to make a signature scent of a niche or hign designer cologne while keeping 'legit' is to buy the original cologne and then buy it's clone to wear daily and use the original for special occasions.
Honestly, as a beginner collector (50 or so bottles) I really try to purchase the originals every time I can and if something is really out of reach, money wise, I then buy a clone ONLY IF it is heralded as a reaaaaly good 1 to 1 clone and most of the time after I buy it I keep an eye on the originals, if they get discounted
Okay let's talk about "ripping off". It's a capitalist system, as consumers, we should hold power and put our money into the highest quality products with the lowest price tag. Otherwise, we're just consenting the conglomerates to keep on charging us way too much. Better if one big company "rip off" another big company than if all of those big companies "rip off" the buyers.
I feel that ppl buying $40 clones and $200/300 niche are not in the same market so it doesn't affect the niche market a lot. Sure there's some overlap but I feel its not significant enough
Are ingredients used in niche brands far superior than in clones given that more and more clones now have superior performance and non synthetic openings?
Am I being dumb, but I genuinely thought ash and it her reviewers actually wore high end clones. I have a good mixture of both, clones are so good these days, why would you not wear them. Great content tho dude, love your videos.
Perfumes are consumer products after all...If a company can make a fragrance that smells 90% close to another one for 1/4 of the price, then the premium brand can only blame themselves... Most customers dont care if your ingredients are "higher quality" (whatever that may be) if it smells the same
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I think some fragrances have gotten away with being unreasonably overpriced and take advantage of that. I like clones for several reasons.
1 they give everyone a chance to sample things there's no way they could afford.
2 they add twists to them where they can be almost better than the original
3 Some of them last even longer than the original. Especially if they get reformulated.
4 There's a lot of discontinued fragrances that are pretty much impossible to get, but these clone houses make it possible to have fragrances you couldn't otherwise get.
5 I'm hoping they'll force houses to make the originals more affordable to compete with them.
There's many other reasons, that's just the first few that came to my mind.
In the history of post-war economics fragrance prices have never come down after going up.
The answer to point 5 is that It's not likely to happen cause of your point 1: clones and high end lovers are different targets of people, and who buy originals wouldn't even think about buying clones.
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@@boybillythebutcher4575 I buy both and I’ll prefer the clone if it’s good and saves me money.
A testament to how overpriced designer house fragrances actually are.
Most niche houses as well.
Come to europe, we get designer bottles for way cheaper than on official sites and in america and its all official fragrance, not fake or anything, dont know how
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@@neoNashShaggy it doesn't matter, fragrances are still one of the most overpriced goods. Most of them (niche fragrances included) have production costs of less than 5 dollars yet are prices over 100. Tahta one reason to support clones in my opinion.
Zero sympathy for niche brands, charge a fair price and the clone brands wouldnt be so prevalent.
Creed in particular, greedy so and so's. Crazy prices and awful performances.
Every major department and grocery store has generic products on their shelves of dang near every product they offer in their store. I consider clones to be the exact same thing as all those products in those stores and absolutely nothing wrong with them at all.
Very good and valid point!
I love the idea of cloning discontinued fragrances. That should be the next step for these cloning houses.
The Fragcomm forgets that they're a tiny minority in regards to the general population. Most average people have zero idea regarding clones and the clone industry and will stay with the big names cause thats all they know. I love clones and I love the legit stuff too.
Personally, i think they're only dangerous to fragrance houses, not willing to admit that their matierals aren't worth that much. Im sorry, but take bacarogue 540 and lataffa Rogue. 20 bucks online for a 500 dollar fragrance that's a pretty close copy to bacarogue 540. Fragrance houses only affect the industry in trying to stop over pricing their stuff for no reason other than maintaining a %200 mark up for a fragrance that isn't that complicated. Honestly, i end up liking clones more often because they do help me in my dating life and my budget.
Otherwise lets be real clones are good for people who know them, because most guys know nothing of clones and buy retail. Personally, i will buy clones until the actual become more affordable.
I just flat out can’t afford to pay over 100$ for fragrances at this point in my life. I’ll get the real stuff later when the real money comes in, but for now clones are just awesome.
Especially if they last for 1-3 hours F.O.H clone me up baby
Decants are amazing. I use the clone most of the time and every once in a while when there's a special occasion I grab a spray of the real deal from a 10ml vial.
Big brands asking too much for their fragrance. I believe no designer brand deserve more than 70 dollars for 100ml. Including Dior Homme Intense, Bleu de Chanel etc.
I can afford them and won't! 😂 If the OG is less than $100 from a discounter, maybe... Premium prices, nah, got other priorities!
u should sell shrooms or something though
As a Southeast Asian foreigner living in the middle East now, I have a very different reason to buy 'clones': Sephora and many of the high class stores that sell perfumes and fragrances here in my place are borderline racist to non Arabs (this was pre pandemic, I still have no plans returning to those now). A lot of the reputable local brands (Arabian Oud, Aldakheel, Oud Elite, Abdulsamad etc) have similar smelling frags at a fraction of the price and better service.
And let me point out the elephant in the room about the Montale company, they started as a 'clone' brand.
I love these types of videos where you just discuss a topic. The reviews and lists are good too, but I'd love to see a few of these a month if there are enough topics.
I too jumped on the clone hype train (never purchased clones before) and purchased quite a few clones to see if the hype was real. I have to admit, there are some fantastic clones out there and I can see why it's "taking over" the fragrance world/market. You're spot on Ash by saying the clone houses will continue to pump out more and more fragrances with incredible accuracy! I believe fragrance houses are taking notice of the impact the clones are making so therefore are now only listing very minimal notes (3 notes) to deter them from being cloned. ( no evidence of such claim, just my thought).
Yeah but most these notes can still be reverse engineered with proper lab machinery. Not stating wont stop anything and reality most designer overcharge for their product which also use synthetic chemistry.
@@d7r_tv Oh I'm sure they are being reversed engineered to get the most accurate note reading. I just think these fragrance houses are just doing whatever they can to dissuade them much as possible, however futile it may be.
@@HansenSC Pretty much. Middle Management in these companies don't use the brain that much. An habit everyone gets after heavy indoctrination and lack of critical thinking in their PhDs.
With modern lab gear and synthetics in fragrances, even natural things, there are multiple machines to give you the exact chemical makeup of the original, and it can easily be replicated in a lab. Science! I think the just listing 3 notes is a cop-out by houses. I'm mad at houses like Armani discontinuing Code Profumo and Absolu, and I feel like things I have enjoyed keep getting discontinued for some parfum twice the price with not even very many notes listed, like "come try it at the store and pay full retail, consoooooomer."
I don't care for clones. As far as I am concerned, the biggest demand for clones are coming from fragrance collectors, who want to build a collection focusing on quantity over quality. If a friend asked me to buy this, or that clone, or even several different ones, I'd tell to choose the best smelling clone and save up for the original. I agree that new fragrances are expensive, although they create something new, to put it in a different aspect, you also pay for the patent. Also, the recent clone relases are getting more and more expensive, so in that $40- $60 price range, you can find original, yet affordable fragrances from well-respected houses like Cartier, or Gueralin. Long story short, choose quality over quantity.
In my experience, the only people that like to rip on clones are the types of people who, at some point in their lives, were told that having money is a viable substitute for having any form of personality whatsoever.
That’s the only reason you can see someone hating on clones? Not the fact that they often are low quality, are ripping off artists, and feed into consumerism for people who don’t have money to spend? Dua’s literally cost more per ml than most designer fragrances and many niche.
@@evaneugenescottWouldn't purchasing the more expensive product be feeding into consumerism? You'd be spending amounts that you can't afford in order to perpetuate some illusory notion of prestige or elitism. Generally speaking if I can purchase something at 3x less the price for comparable, equal or better quality ... then I'm being smart about my money. Ultimately it's a free market and if you can provide me with a good/ or ideally better product for less money then more power to you. I can only say from experience that the dupes I've bought and seen reviewed are tremendous.
I work at Fermenich and I only buy clones.
I love cologne, I love to smell good but I find it absurd and a waste of money to pay $300 plus for any frag. For me I am happy that these clones are exposing that all you are paying for is the name and braging about how rich you are. "I have a $500 dollar cologne, look how rich I am!" Oh yeah well I have a cologne that smells 90%-95% the same as your $500 bottle and nobody can tell the difference when I am wearing it because cologne smells a little different on everyone, oh and guess what, I only paid $30 for it! I can now smell good at a fraction of the price. I don't care about what other people think I don't care about status, I just like to smell good and if I can smell just as good spending $30 as the person next to me that spent $500 then I am all for it!
It just sounds like you don’t have much disposable income! Shame shame! I feel bad because there are some things in life you will never experience. Especially if you think $500 is expensive for a cologne! It’s not! Some of my Rojas are $3000 and believe me there is a massive difference between exclusive, fragrances and clones! Life has levels, and not everybody will be able to save the princess from Donkey Kong!!!!!
@@I_will_show_you_monkey Fabulous!
@@I_will_show_you_monkey why its a shame? Majority of people in this world arent rich as f
I use to have a massive designer and niche collection. One day my friend he was wearing a clone and smelled amazing. I asked what fragrance you wearing and he said club de nuit intense. That moment spending all this money on designer and niche isn’t worth it for someone like me. The clones come very close and with better performance
We have Aventus to thank for all those clone houses .
Are clones bad - No
Are some clone terrible - Absolutely
Unspoken truth
Absolutely, I buy clones to see if I would actually wear the real one.
I own several due to clones. I guess it depends on where you're at on your journey.
Hey Ash,
I bought a lot of clones mainly from lattafa and armaf after seeing the hype, and my honest opinion is that most of them have a harsh opening and some even develop an unpleasant smell, I was heavily disappointed with Ameer Aloudh intense oud for example, that smell makes me sick, but for $12, I couldn’t care less about it, CDNIM LE has a harsh opening but after that it’s perfectly fine, but that was all UAE clone houses, but when I tried Lalique’s white in black which is “inspired by Layton” I reaaaally loved it, so I’d say designer clones or inspired by’s are better than straight up clone houses imo
In general I feel the same. For instance Detour Noir is very decent clone of Layton, but it wears weird and I don’t care for it after an hour or so. I just use Layton instead when I want that profile. There have been a few others like that too. They either cause skin irritation, have a cheap opening or they wear weird and develops an odd funk. I’m sure some are fine though.
@@James7995 interesting you bring up detour noir and Layton. Ive been wearing detour noir consistently for the last few months and like it a lot, but today i went back to Layton and realized that Layton is a much better scent than i remember. Im going to wear Lalique White in Black again for the next few weeks and then go back to Layton and see how that feels...
Because the originals are becoming so expensive we have to buy clones. And there are some really good.
Don’t really think it is an issue because of the insane markup of designers and niches. Nevertheless, appreciate your honest opinion and how you’re not a snob despite having a collection of originals that you would arguably never be able to finish. Thanks as always
I'm a bit split on the issue. On the one hand, some fragrances like Bvlgari's Tygar are unnecessarily expensive, so grabbing a clone of that is kinda justified because Bvlgari's being overly greedy. But the standard of what might be considered unnecessarily expensive is subjective. What someone might find unnecessarily expensive may not be excessive to someone else. Then there's also the whole stealing someone else's intellectual property, changing a few notes and then putting it out themselves. When someone else does this very thing in other artforms, it's considered theft, so should it be considered theft in the artform of perfumery. Like most things, it's so subjective and people's opinions are going to vary. I do have some clones but in most cases I do own the original fragrance as well. I do also have some "inspired by" fragrances that are different enough from the original to not be considered a clone... but that too is subjective. So, just buy what you want and enjoy it for what it is. And YES, let them clone and put out stuff that was great but discontinued. I'm all onboard with that way of doing it.
Yes, thanks for asking ☺️
If the originals were more reasonably priced 90+% of people would get them and also if they stopped discontinuing great fragrances no need for clones of those either.
The big designer brands never lost a sale from me because I was never gonna buy at those prices. However, once I fall in like with a scent because the clone was a winner - yep I'm gonna pony up for the designer (and wear it on special occasions).
Just got my Armaf Club de Nuit Untold in the mail today.
I don't have an issue with clones. I guess I currently only own 1 (CDNIM), but if I found a good one that was a clone of a severally overpriced fragrance I'd probably buy it.
And I did once buy my son a Walmart clone of Invictus, and he absolutely loved it. So when that bottle was empty, I bought him a bottle of the real thing.
But MOST people don't walk by someone wearing a fragrance and think "he's wearing *such-n-such*". They just think "oh he smells good". Most people dont know what fragrances smell like. They just know good or bad smell.
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I do own like 6 or more Cremo fragrances, and I guess they're clones also. So I guess I own more than one.
Genuinely can't understand why anyone would be against clones in general. Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of DUA but I don't have an issue with them being sold or people liking them. Most of us started with clones to some degree and you are spot on when you say that they're excellent gateways to buying the real deal. Just have a reason to save up your cash when you know how good the reward is. Send in the clones!
A man of culture you are !
I feel zero remorse about purchasing clones. I wear them every day. If each cologne was completely individual from every other scent there might be a case for 'ownership' of a scent profile... But every cologne is a 'twist' on something that came before. Very rarely is there something that comes along that is unique and different.
Whether you like to admit it or not, even though it has a designer label on it, people are wearing clones/inspired by/dupes... Why pay 100$+ for a clone? Seriously, how many designer colognes smell like Aventus, Bleu de Chanel, Sauvage, BR540? They are all at least 'adjacent' to something else.. So are clones, they are just honest about not being original.
Don't care how much money I make, no stinky juice is worth hundreds of dollars, because the clone houses are proving you can do it for 20-40$. Just sayin.
Exactly! I can afford the real deal, but I'd rather get the clone because its so good and worth it
Clones help them even more, they are priced for a certain demographic, those people would still buy them and people who cant would opt out for the clone and some of the people that like that product alot would save up to obtain the original. That is why you rarely see them suing fakes. Clones become a doorway to their products eventually.
There's no reason I should spend hundreds of dollars for a weak fragrance when I could buy an Amraf that not only performs better but is light on my wallet.
Major designer frag companies have been ripping people off for a long time and infact I believe they've been diluting their frags on purpose.
Perfumery was never meant to be an expensive hobby in ancient times. People used all kinds of scented oils then the major companies stepped in slapped a designer brand and inflated the prices
Can't wait for black market clones
Great video! And love the discussion and views in the comment section
I got to know clone fragrances because of your videos, Ash. I have many of the Original/real deals, and then curious about what the clones smell like. There are many good clone fragrances for the price point. I do enjoy wearing them causally. But the non-deniable fact that the clones’ s quality are lower than the real deal in general.
I do not regret to own any of the originals/real deals, but for something I don’t wear often, such like Interlude, BR540, Angels Share….I don’t mind to use the clones to fill the space.
Clone fragrances exist and thrive for a reason, people just want to smell good. Nothing wrong with that.
Great video! I do know that while fragrances aren't patented, certain synthetic molecules are and we might find brands making fragrances that are built upon these so that it would be impossible to dupe. But then again, at that point I wonder just how important it will be to us to have dupes of those. It ceases to be about great fragrances but about the acrobatics of smelling good in a world of patented syntheticism.
Usually, artists are copied once they're dead and it's considered a tribute and fondly looked upon. But when they aren't dead yet, it looks like you're stealing their thunder.
But, we aren't all Rembrandts. And we're not being asked to just buy endless amounts of museum tickets. We're being asked to take these babies home and brand ourselves through sillage with their vision. So, there comes a certain tussle between the whole my-body-my-choice dialogue and the artist's prerogative piece.
My take away- don't be offended if you got duped. Don't be offended by my dupe collection. I don't just have dupes either. I love a modest collection that I can share with others around me (I'm frequently giving out samples) and I don't have a budget that supports me doing that kind of thing out of $200-$500 bottles.
No way i would be able to have a collection without good clones.I love a good clone or a great cheapie.
Long live the clone companies.
I dig the clones, dupes, inspired by frags. I definitely have my fair share of Lattafa, Armaf, Al Haramain, Misoni, and Paris Corner to name a few. I even have a few ALT, Dua, Dossier, and Oil Perfumery stuff. These clones help me learn what big niche houses or designer houses I wanted to buy. I can over spray and get the full effect of the fragrance using the clone instead of a little sample of the real thing. Now I own a dozen or so niche and designer frags because I did that. Clones should be embraced. My opinion.😊
In Brazil designer fragrances (even cheap ones) cost like haft of a minimum wage, blue de channel edt is the price of the minimum wage, using clones or national original fragrances is the only way you can have acess to multiple fragrances, and there are national clone producers that does a really good job on some fragrances
Personally I have no dog in this fight, but as clones get better and better, and word starts to get around to the general public, I can't imagine that some of the major fragrance conglomerates aren't going to start paying attention and begin to push lawmakers around the world to do something about it. Clones should be around at least a little while longer, but in the end, big money usually wins.
i like to purchase clones. however, my friends do not for the following 2 reasons:
1) you don't get as much excitement and satisfaction. it's like cheating in a game. winning fair & square is fun, but hacking gets boring very quickly.
2) it doesn't look as good on your shelf. it looks like a shelf full of random arab perfumes, and i feel like people respect you less once they find out you buy dupes.
these reasons won't stop me from buying dupes, as i'm broke, but they are good reasons to think about. i hope people can reply and give me their opinion on these takes.
Did you see that fake Al Haramain Amber Oud flankers are appearing? They're in identical bottles and are called "Amber Oud Exclusif Blue," Exclusif Sport" etc. But their bottles don't have the Haramain name on them and apparently someone else makes them. Neeb at Aromatix did a video on this a couple days ago.
One of my favorite scents is Prada Luna Rossa Black. Ive heard it compared to Midnight in Paris and Bvlgari Black, but i havent smelled either of those and they've both been discontinued for a while now. I hope the clone houses would recreate both Midnight in Paris and Bvlgari Black so I can get to experience those scents.
Its also been said that Prada LR Black is going to be discontinued as well, which will make me extremely sad...
Luna Rosa black is the better of the 3 Bvlgari black is nice just weak performance midnight in Paris was a 30 dollar bottle that nobody cared about until it was discontinued and the legend began but honestly it's not worth buying again Prada checks all the boxes
All I’m gonna say is I’m glad clones are just so close to the real thing 🙌🏽👍🏽
Such a great topic and you covered it expertly.
Quite a lot of them are badly overhyped by YT influencers & really not that close to the og's, It's not just the smell, it's the way it hits your nose.
Spot on point. That's how I feel about Khamrah, TBH. Angels Share is a winter signature frag for me for a while now.. Ordered that clone because of YT-er hype, and I think it smells like a mess. Hits the nose like a truck.
I'm a sneaker head as well as into fragrances... It's amazing to see the differences between the communities. Clones are essentially "knockoffs" but they're widely accepted in the fragrance community yet heavily frowned upon in the sneaker community. I buy retail sneakers as well as reps and I will continue to buy clones of fragrances if I find one that I like better than the original.
There are clone brands that do a lot of discountinued stuff. At least here in Europe i know of some. Perfume Parlour is meking really good ones, Shobi as well. No idea about their US shipping, but its worth a look.
If counterfeiting or replicas feel wrong - why is cloning to the point of copying the scent, bottle and packaging different? They should produce their own distinct artistic offering. To buyers, save up, decants, swap, wait until you reach a milestone
No brainer from me. I have a few clones and designers. I use clones day to day to preserve my designer frags. Recently am looking to find clones of discoed scents in case a backup bottle is too out of reach. The only worry is still clones are poorly done, even cheap it feels like a waste of money
Try Dua Fragrances, they smell amazing and in no way do they smell cheap.
The journey to find the clone is much more entertaining than looking at the price at the store in disgust. I will pay regular price for something that is proven.
The best side effect of being a discount diver. 🥰
In my opinion, appreciate the clone houses, but respect the original house who created the fragrance. The only reason clone houses are doing insanely well is also because the original house created the fragrance and causes others to be inspired by them and clone it at an affordable price
Don't understand why clones get a bad rep, they perform alot better than most of the original/designer releases for a much more affordable price and unless your really into your fragrances, realistically on a day to day basis not many people wear a fragrance. If you like a certain scent profile and can save £30-50 on getting clone that performs better why not? The majority of people who compliment you won't care if it's designer or not. I've been enjoying looking into certain clones/clone houses where I can pick up a few scents I've always wanted to try but have not been able to get hold of them due to the cost of the designer price tag.
8:10 good point. I got Mont Blanc Explorer, always got compliments, then later saved up and got Creed Aventus
When you see a clone at 10% of the price, you see the profit those fragrances make for companies and the more close to reality cost of a fragrance
theres already a clone of LNDL Frozen Cologne. its called Santana Bay by Jacques Bogart
Its strange, for some reason I've not found a clone that I like. Bought Club De Nuit Intense Man and Latffa Asad. Those are the most popular. Not impressed. I definetly want to try The Tux.
I use your videos and others of clones to see if I like the dna to buy the original vs jumping off a cliff buy an expensive name fragrance and I don't like the dna. It's a safe cost effective way to test out clones
I've come around on Dua for their clones of discontinued fragrances. I have their clones of Gucci Envy and Creed Green Valley
The fragrance industry is similar to the cigar industry. You have your fragrance niche snobs and Cuban cigars snobs.
I find it funny that the big brands all say clones are bad. Yet how many major niche and designer brands copy each other. How many are doing ‘their take’ on Aventus?
I disagree with most everyone. The value isn’t just in the scent, the bottle, or the brand. The value in anything is being an original. The cost of creating, developing, marketing, and potential of failure, is all in being an original. The fake, the imitation is not valuable because it is built on the backs of someone else’s work, investment, and creation. That’s why people pay big money to see an original band, but pay almost nothing to see a cover band.
Furthermore, this is the only enthusiast community that encourages people to buy the fake, the frauds, and the dupes. No apparel influencer is wanting you to buy Chinese knock off polo shirts. No watch enthusiasts are encouraging you to buy fake Rolexes. And no golf enthusiasts encourage you to buy fake equipment. Period.
Lastly, there should be an aspirational part of this all. You can’t always have what you want right away. Save your money. Quality over quantity. If it is worth having it is worth waiting for. Don’t tell me you can’t afford an original, but then have a shelf full on fragrances. You have that choice, for sure, but be honest about it. Don’t blame the prices of the original, or say the original isn’t as good…just be honest. You don’t have to have a lot of money to have a few quality fragrances.
Extra Gents Scelts would deserve at least 100k more subscribers!
There is a brand from the UK called “My Signature Aroma” their niche collection is unbelievable, over 4000 fragrances within their inventory and i would say 95% close to high end fragrances on the market
Gucci envy, yes! Miss it so much!
I forgot how much I loved Perri Ellis M.
This community needs a clone for Aqua Amara at this point
Luckaly non of the perfumes I have in my collection have a clone (yet). Most of them either aren't hyped anymore, or are just to old school to be loved by the mass nowadays. Because only the perfumes which have a moneytrain, get an actual clone trying to get on board.
I do love the idea for clone houses, to recreate discontinued perfumes. As long as they stay away from the pet sematary...
I don't plan to ever have a huge collection. So as interesting as it is to hear about clones, and I have nothing negative to say about them at all, at this point in my life I prefer to get the originals.
I smelt star nebula many times but because I do not know the original smell I did not buy it and I think its near to the A men original. What do you think of it 😊
I still have a little bit of Fresco, I use it as car freshener.
While I’m seeing this video I wore a clone of ADG Profumo “Jorge Di Profumo” from Miason Alhambra and it’s really nice clone , most of my collection are clones , I saves my money man.
Clones are good, maybe these expensive niche companies should make better quality fragrances so that clone houses don’t make a better version.
I'm not in a position to spend £100 every month or two for a new fragrance so clones are my go to. I will buy a decant now and again as well though. Perfume Parlour and KDJ Inspired do great clones in the UK.
Need a clone of Givenchy Play Intense.
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I’m really on the fence about this one. I liked them at first when I started my journey. I bought into a lot of hype and picked up a few. What I’ve found is there is always a trade off and most of the time my wife says they smell cheap. I realized I’m very sensitive to some to the cheaper oils that are used in clones. About half of the clones out there give me a pounding headache within minutes. Sad. Now I just find the 5-10ml decants of expensive fragrances and get the real thing and it’s a much better experience with no headache and my wife doesn’t make me take a shower. The only time I really get interested now is a Tygar situation. It’s an amazing but simple scent. It’s not the hardest scent to clone and maybe there is bomb clones out there. Otherwise I’m getting a decant of the real thing and saving if I like it. Just my take. With discounters getting 90% of the fragrances out there (if you look around and wait a while) your paying Pennies on the dollar to get the real thing sometimes.
I think a clone house doing the entire line of Mugler Pure line would be a goldmine. Ultra Zest clone for $35.00?? I’ll take two! The possibilities are endless and very profitable.
100% buying clone then buy the real deal if you like it, nice vid 👍
I've also heard lattafa are working on cloning Blue ridge 😊
I used to own a short-lived online fragrance retailer website just before I went into retirement, and now I am on a fixed income. I can tell you that the clones back on those days were terrible. I closed down right about the time Armaf Club de Nuit Intense Man came out, which, in my opinion, got the entire "quality" clone business rolling.
That being said, I will take almost-perfect, high-quality clones over the WAY, WAY overpriced niche and designer frags any day, anytime, anywhere!!! I have received more compliments with Club de Nuit Intense than any other scent, bar-none, the close runner-up being Versace Eros Flame.
My hope is that these clones will force the greedy, overpriced companies to lower their prices. They have GOT to be feeling the backlash in their bank accounts ... no doubt.
With clone fragrance, i just realise how much designer/niche take a profit, it's very huge.
At a certain point artistry will always turn to mass due to demand unless it can't be closely reproduced
I need a solid Ganymede clone
Smell is like flavour, you cannot patent that. So I think its about preference.
I wonder if this has had an impact on the lack of recent designer releases. I have no real problem with clones but once they start copying the branding, the bottle and the packaging then it's something I am less inclined to pay for.
Id really like to hear from someone who works for the designer fragrance industry (or a big niche name) WHY exactly prices are so high. Like how much of it is economics vs profiteering and name-value association. You do get what you pay for to a certain extent; I know anything I buy from Amouage or Creed is going to be high quality, even if it's not my thing. But there is a point of diminishing returns. Kind of like wine. The $500 bottle of wine is not 25x better than the $20 of wine. Better, for sure, but it's about rarity, vintage, vineyard, community esteem, etc.
The clones are amazing in their own sense, but most clones never get the scent down 100%. If I like the real thing, I just still get the actual scent from discounters. Or if I’m a fan of the brand, I don’t mind supporting their company. I mostly buy the clone to spray a bubble around my home, kind of a splurge of something close to the scent i enjoy
I've tried Zara, Alt, and last month Dua. I'm done! I'd rather get a decant of niche that I really want rather than a synthetic chemical smelling dupe. Just my 2 cents
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TIP: Best way to make a signature scent of a niche or hign designer cologne while keeping 'legit' is to buy the original cologne and then buy it's clone to wear daily and use the original for special occasions.
Honestly, as a beginner collector (50 or so bottles) I really try to purchase the originals every time I can and if something is really out of reach, money wise, I then buy a clone ONLY IF it is heralded as a reaaaaly good 1 to 1 clone and most of the time after I buy it I keep an eye on the originals, if they get discounted
Great job
Okay let's talk about "ripping off". It's a capitalist system, as consumers, we should hold power and put our money into the highest quality products with the lowest price tag. Otherwise, we're just consenting the conglomerates to keep on charging us way too much. Better if one big company "rip off" another big company than if all of those big companies "rip off" the buyers.
I feel that ppl buying $40 clones and $200/300 niche are not in the same market so it doesn't affect the niche market a lot. Sure there's some overlap but I feel its not significant enough
Are ingredients used in niche brands far superior than in clones given that more and more clones now have superior performance and non synthetic openings?
Am I being dumb, but I genuinely thought ash and it her reviewers actually wore high end clones. I have a good mixture of both, clones are so good these days, why would you not wear them. Great content tho dude, love your videos.
Would like to see Halston 101 make a comeback
Need a clone of discontinued Armani attitude please!
Dua Fragrances has it, type Armani Attitude in the search bar
its weird how this video is important NOW
Perfumes are consumer products after all...If a company can make a fragrance that smells 90% close to another one for 1/4 of the price, then the premium brand can only blame themselves...
Most customers dont care if your ingredients are "higher quality" (whatever that may be) if it smells the same