ohnepixel reacts to honest CS:GO vs VALORANT comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2023
- a viewer made a comparison between cs:go and valorant for ohne... but are his opinions valid?
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As someone with ~1500 hrs in each game, I agree with everything except maps. CS blows valorant away in terms of maps so idk what he's smoking
agreed, i started on cs but mostly play valorant but valorants maps are actually some of the worst maps ive ever played in my life
@@saanskii8039 they're sooooo bad it's like if I made a map and just threw some random shit everywhere and the buy phase barrier is so close to sites that the round starts and you're taking duels immediately. On CS there's spots in maps with like slight angles and stuff and it's like you know they did it on purpose. A good example is ramp on nuke, the corner towards trophy room is slanted so you can throw a molly from decently far and the angle lets the molly land at the entry
agree, a lot of valorant players hate the maps too, people always dodge when they get a bad map
Volcano only knew how to making square object when he created a map
@saanskii8039 valorant maps are so bad. also i hate that people can walk until wall disappears. it's weird.
ohne doesn't realise how badly hes going to be sniped if he plays val lol
when he says that he is good at killing ppl in videogames? (like , seriously said that , not in joke maner)
he'll be confused with abilities and that you can't 100% rely on aim, get mad at mid maps and say valorant is trash. i agree though :D
But he’s global elite and he’s gonna be unrated!!!!!
(Faceit 3)
Wasn't the whole premise of valorant on launch is that it's mostly about aim? What happened to that
@@SavouryLobster i don’t know what this guy is talking about
Something that's been bugging me a lot, is that so many CS:GO players completely hate on Valorant just because of their skins system, as if that isn't how virtually every other game works in terms of skins.
As a CS player I actually prefer Valorant's system. I wish I could just make a one time payment of $70 and have a sapphire karambit locked to my account.😂
Val’s system does kinda suck radiant is godawful it should be buy skin get cool animations and sounds and variants with it not buy skin buy animations buy sounds and buy variants i have no radianite becuase i bought a few bundles it sucked my neo frontier odin is still not maxed out and i dont have a good stinger or spectre or bulldog or ares becuase i wouldnt be able to upgrade them heck my frenzy is just hydro dip with the pride buddy
@@aubrynobicop6924 Oh yeah the radianite system is stupid, but Valorants system is much much closer to the 'market standard' than CS
@@aubrynobicop6924u r just straight up poor 💀
i am hate valorant beacuse this game simply sucks
Valorants Anti Cheat was the reason for me to switch, but CS' strong economy/Skins brings me back
Why people playing cs for skins whats the point
You’ve got spyware on your computer + valorant is for children and trans kids
@@cs2forlifeskins=skills
@@cs2forlifebc we havin
@@cs2forlife skins shouldnt be the reason to bring someone back but "playing" cs purely for the skins market does have a major point...
He forgot to mention that to buy your favorite skin for your favourite weapon in valorant, you have to wait so long, that you will propably quit val before you get even an option to buy it
This is true can confirm I quit val way before getting a chance to buy a skin I liked
To get my favorite skin in cs I have to work for 2 years
still better than spending 1k on something you wont even get
@@Mo-km8bf1k that has value on it, and you can potentially make profit off of it
yeah man i waited like 9 months for my fav skin
5:58 When he defended the kernel-level anti-cheat by saying Riot Games is "well trusted" the chat reaction was amazing.
@@some872 bro id rather have chinese gov stalking my crazy clips i have in my pc, than having spinning people in my games
Ur argument that cheats can act on kernel level as well is true, but where cheaters in valorant then?
As a closing argument ill use ur mom is a security risk as well and no one is saying anything.
@@some872 Yeah ofc they are cheaters, but i never encountered one. The amount of spinboters on valorant is 0, in csgo we going into thousands or even more.
As my closing argument I would like to say that you are a fucking G, and I'll message gaben myself to give you better case drops because you deserve it.
Thank you for your humour.
Giving anything Kernel level should be concerning regardless if you trust the one giving it to you
You might as well let the school bully fuck your girlfriend too.
@@some872 ur just jelous csgo is full of cheaters. I played valorant since beta june 2020, but I cant remember if i played againts a cheater.
@@clive0494 You have played against cheaters in valo, you just dont know about it. Valo insta bans blatant/rage cheaters unlike csgo, csgo detects them as well, but instead of banning them they act like nothing and rather put them into low TF pool. I have over 9000 hours in csgo on clean account with good TF standing and havent encountered a blatant cheater in a long long time as well.
i like how probably no one in ohnes chat has ever played valorant and they still talk like they know everything
Pretty sure majority of the cs players have tried the game when it first got released or have seen people play it. I have 100+ games on it myself, and I still prefer cs.
Valorants gameplay is just way too gimmicky
@@py-3366 might be gimmicky but id say the new player experience is much better. Util is easier to use unless you know lineups for cs. When getting a mate of mine to start playing these types of game we got him to start with valo, it honestly is just easier for players to get into. Were slowly trying to move to cs2 but matchmaking has been dogshit since i havent played in years, hes new and another friend was high rank and decayed to gold nova.
@@neodinium7316agreed man, valorant is so much easier to get into as a new player, before cs2 i just could not play cs as the gunplay and economy and gameplay in general just feels so different to any other game. cs2 with a nicer hud and buy menu and stuff is so much easier to get into now
@@sxcculent fr. Cs2 is much easier to pick up compared to csgo.
But valorant is still easier to learn.
Like bullet tracers are more noticeable in valo. You learn the basics of utility in valo (which are easier to use)
It's a good entry into cs2.
I started pc fps games with csgo and peaked like silver elite.
Stopped playing for a while until valo eventually came out and got to plat on that, going into cs2 now just feels good
@@neodinium7316 i think at beta the new-player experience was much better in val. however now it's become a game of util and it takes much much longer to get a hold of what each character does and what each ability does. I play val on and off and im still learning new stuff, such as skye blind giving an audio queue if she hits it or not.
I trust Valve 100x more than those (chinese) tencent dudes
What about every other anti cheat before Vanguard? BattleEye? Easy Anti Cheat? Punkbuster?
Say what you want about valorant, but without it CS2 would still be in alpha stages of development and it may have never even seen daylight
Remember competition is good for everyone
defo wouldn't have seen daylight. They wouldn't release CS2 if they didn't have to. The amount of money and capability they have is ridiculous. They could have pumped out CS2 years ago before Valorant, but they will squeeze out every dime and nickel out of CSGO before maximising their returns on the highly demanded CS2. They just can't afford Valorant taking too much of their market share at the moment. Competition is good for consumers. No competition means greedy shits.
Stay fighting bois. And we get more shit done
@@rabadonsdeathcap7418damn I didn't know my favorite ap stick could talk
@@MolagBalling maybe
not true, valve do things when they want too, cs2 has been in development since source 2 engine came out in 2014/2015ish but valve do things on valve time, they dont care when there game comes out, csgo would have stayed popular anyway even without cs2 or valorant.
Finally an actually good video hes reacting to
feel like there should be a segment about overall gameplay, cause this video was mostly bout details and thigns around gameplay(maps as an example), since both games even tho they share same core gameplay, there are little diffrences that makes valo not straight up csgo clone like abilitys(no shit) and playing around those(as an example respecting/disrespecting sage wall and punishing enemies for respecting/disrespecting it)
@@cybel4820 yep, I feel like Valorant is much better in this category. For example, in CS you would need to memorize every lineup for every map and you almost have no other options besides remembering it, while in Valorant you can just not plan an agent that requires a lineup
@@Williammm67the thing i really like about valorant is that, other then personal and team based skill it also rewards you heavily for right mindset. The main reason people are bad at diff roles is that they require a big shift in thinking about the game, not that big but still significant. Biggest reason why harbor was concidered bad at his release was people not having right mindset(harbor has similar kit to viper but reverse gameplay of her) and also mappool which didnt help.
I would give valve acces to my bank account if it meant fixing the cheater problem
and what they could take from you ?XD
I've already given valve access to my bank account tbh
@@Aerodynamical_ my understanding of grammar. Who took yours?
@@monohe4d380 He's probably a person who speaks spanish and doesn't have a lot of grammar, I assume it because of the "XD"
I honestly dont play much CS, but lately Ive been watching a lot of movements and map "spots" videos. And everytime I see a video theres ALWAYS a different spot for a different map. Like being able to boost teammates onto boxes (which also exists in val, but literally noone does it and there are almsot no spots for it) or stand on a barely visible ceiling deffinetly makes me giving the maps and movement points to CS.
I think the maps when played "normally" are in fact equally as good, but those little details deffinitely makes the CS maps more appeiling for me personally
most of the time boosting in valo is useless cuz other teams checks those corners cuz of agents who have flying abilities
Not sure if you mean no one uses is in general or in pro play. Because there's a reason for it if you mean the latter.
Having your teammate boost you onto a box by pushing up against you in a corner is actually not allowed in pro tournaments. Mostly because it decreases the purpose/value of agent abilities that would otherwise let you do so (Omen/Chamber TP, Jett updraft, Raze satchel).
When they play ranked, I see pro players do boosts all the time. It's just they can't in the actual tournaments.
@@Chrosteellium Yeah, I meant in high elo play generally. I´ve honestly never seen boosts whenever I watched high elo VODs or streams, or at least alot less than in CS
Boosting in pro is illegal. Otherwise I see it uncommonly for certain spots
@@Chrosteelliumso you cant tunboost in valo? No pigskin? 😢
This is probs the best comparison he's seen so far.
I wonder if a ranking system will be introduced to CS2? Clueless
They annouced tomorrow, search for premier cs2
they'll introduce it with the premier MM
They made a video and released it with open beta yesterday
yep
bro says maps are even when every single valorant map is ass, even my mates who dont play CS and only play Val say they are ass
yea there's no way he said they're even lmao, still yet to be an actual good valorant vs csgo comparison video
nah ascent is passable, the other 4-5 maps are unbearable tho (the last map i played was pearl it was actually decent as well but i played it 0.5 times (mid match permaban)
Most of them are mids. But breeze is in the league of its own in terms of dogcrap
@@scuckplexity they changed it. its better now
@@samjudd9932 still not really good personally
if im being completely honest his chat is a perfect example of why i dont play cs to much negativity even when the video is 99% correct bruh give some credit where its due both games are great!
dont mind them they got bored of opening cases so they had to watch a comparison to justify gambling on a game that is far outdated compared to valorant
@@kyro3259 no one cares both games are trash, valorant is just more trash than cs
I completely agree ohne was actually agreeing with the guy on most things and saying check out his channel and his chat was just saying L to every single thing and saying no bc they are so fckn negative and when ohne says he likes something they go W they are huge d riders and I'm not saying this bc I like val more I've never played val I've only every played cs I'm just saying that his chat is toxic
@@level8473W take
@@level8473 terrible take
Ohne would make valorant history when he does the biggest valorant stream
You finally reacted to the vid still wating for the valorant stream tho.
Riot: VAlorant.
Valorant: VAlorant
Valorant players: VAlorant
Almost everyone else: VAlorant
Ohne: vaLOrant.
vallorrent
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"play whatever you want but what are you doing playing valorant bro" LMAO
“bro he looks like Travis Scott” 😂😂😂
No way he gave point to maps in Valorant
bc he is a valorant bot xd
and tie on gunplay? give me a fkin break. his arrogance at the start of the video got increasingly cringey the more that came out of his mouth.
man aint no way yall still hating on valorant or csgo in 2023 💀
Dont like the game? Then ignore its existance 💀
@@Prowls5432they're just commenting about the topic of the video.
@@Prowls5432 That is quite literally the point of the discussion what are you even on about
"Vac live looks very promising". CS2 Beta right now: ...
I think that you can't really compare val & cs maps cuz val has specific roles for guarding as sentinel and entery for duelists and initiators, that leads just to different bulst of maps
i have about 400 hours in CS (100 coming since CS2 release) and little over 1k in valorant and ill say that playing so much CS lately has improved my Valorant gameplay by like 100000x lol the emphasis on gunfights is so nice and the insane ass recoil has made me control all of valorants weapons much easier. Personally if i wanna have fun ill hop on CS and click some heads or AWP and then if i wanna sweat my heart out ill hop on valo. I do wanna get into Face it just for the experience here soon!
Get into face it if you wanna run into a whole bunch of smurfs it’s so fun
April 1st should be Valorant stream :D You can probably borrow an account with all the skins too :D
Yeah cuz the games a joke 😂
thats against tos. so the person lending might get banned
“At the end of the day, play whatever you want but….what are you doing if you’re playing Valorant bro” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 ily
I play both, and I play both for fun, and I enjoy both, and I think each is better in their own ways
I really hope CS2 comes out officially and is a big hit. Get a big slap on Riot's ass to polish and improve VALORANT. I enjoy both games equally and so do my friends, we switch between both depending on the mood. Also reduce the price of both CSGO's prime status (handing over a week's worth of food money hurt) and VALORANT skins, or at least have them be full upgraded on purchase for some regions.
CSGO prime isn’t even that expensive, if u can buy 50 dollar unsellable skins then u can buy prime lol
@@JaiDoesVideos They're 10-15 if bought individually, and I can really only get one every 5-6 months. I did buy prime, but like i said I had to pay a week's worth of food money to get it. I just wish that prime was priced according to region, since SEA (where i am)is a fair bit poorer than other places.
@@theepiccrimson5335It was, but regional pricing didn’t exactly help with the cheating issue. Got banned? Make a new Turkish, Argentinian or Brazilian steam account and get prime for less than 3$. Not from those regions? Buy the account from someone that is
"Evenly distributed ranks in matchmaking" While everytime i play ranked in valorant opponents vandal has ascendant, immortal, radiant weapon charm and one taps my team to get 30-40 kill in platinum.
So, with the release of CS2, gotta say that the whole "ranked system" issue presented has been remedied in CS2. Obviously, for competitive mode, they added map ranks and in Premier, you can see a very specific number and when you're going to promote.
The way I see it, one more point to CS.
cache was and is my all time favorite map in csgo... im pretty pissed its not in cs2 rn and i start to think its not gonna be in cs2, cause fmpone works for valorant now...
he already said he was working on cache for cs2
Bro me too, I will be so pissed if cache is not there
based. Cache is godlike. i cried when it dropped from rotation. i miss it
How are Val maps so dogshit if fmpone works on them? Why is riot downgrading him so much
6:38 I'm past the point of caring about kernel level at this point. Tried out valorant and the next day my pc ran like shit. I'm talking like 10 fps on my desktop before anything was even open. Went through the process of deleting the thing newest to my pc (Valorant and the AC) and boom it was instantly fixed and my pc was back to a runnable state.
I know this isn't a thing everyone gets obviously, but it sucked not being able to even use my PC because of the way valorant has their AC set up.
a chinaman was data mining your information, after a few days he will be done and your computer performance will come back.
Honestly kinda just sounds like your PC is dying and needs a replacement, or has some kind of malware, don't think its a valorant issue.
bad memory or overwritten disk issue probably. Vangaurd anticheat will cause some overhead.
Been playing Counter Strike since source came out. I love CS, and I really enjoyed valorant. Its a different game, strengths and weakness's... but the maps on valorant make me hate it
the only thing that makes me quit cs, is a random guy screaming racism or troling
yeah the racism and toxicity of CS made me give it up. dont need to listen to 30 somethings screaming the n word in the mic
Bro got me on "ara ara" system 😂
101 matches, 70 WR% and level 10.. Either thats just the NA thing or he is sus af.
Valorant stream is gonna be such great content. Actually looking forward to that
He has been waffling for 1yr+ and still no stream. Dont expect him to stream Valorant for next 6 months (as CS2 will have new content+ operation)
Watch him get addicted to the game
2:50 both games have better maps, but maps have different point
valorant have easy maps with close to zero spots where you can peak with only head or hide, while csgo has lots of this kind of spots
first actual good video, wouldve given maps to csgo and skins a point each tho
To me, the simple fact that the majority of the skill ceiling in CS was made by the community, is what makes it better. The game wasn't created with surfing or bhopping or run boosts or anything like that in mind. In fact, the original CS developers were probably amazed when people started doing things like that. The fact that Valve sees that stuff and does what they can to encourage it is what makes CS so great. The community is allowed to be creative. In contrast, despite Riot saying that Valorant is all about creativity, they do everything they can to limit it. You can't do anything in Valorant that Riot hasn't explicitly said is okay and coded into the game themselves. Player boosts? No, that's not allowed. If you got up there without using one of the pre-determined abilities designed to get you up there, then it's cheating. It's like in CS, problems arise randomly and the community is given free will to solve them (problems being like how to boost on top of something or how to smoke off a certain area). But in Valorant, Riot themselves created the problems, and then give you one or two very specific ways to solve said problem and if you try to do anything other than what they intended, they immediately patch it so you can never do it again. I don't like that, I want real creativity. And that is why CS is the better game.
idk how you can say valve encourages it when they literally removed bhopping (to its full extent at least) when it was discovered. boosts are definitely allowed btw idk where you got that from maybe youre meaning boosts that take you out of the map to an inaccessible angle? even then didn't csgo do the same with something like olofmeister boost lol
@@Birbsters Valve also removed flash boosting. Why? Because it was insanely broken, and so was bhopping. Now bhopping still exists but in a much more competitively viable way. And my thoughts on boosting in Valorant are based on old experiences when the esport first started and Riot cracked down on spots like tenz jumping onto the box on C site Haven without using updraft. If they are allowed then that is a mistake on my part as I haven't followed the Esport scene since like the first week of it existing, but that doesn't change the fact that the engine actively tries to resist boosts by making players slide off each other. My point being they want you to use the util like they intended instead of your own creative ways. Or, at the very least, it really feels like they hate when the community breaks their game. Whereas Valve just kind of laughs at it and then finds a way to address it.
@@Birbsters Valve just edited some values to make bhopping less viable in vanilla play because the movement was not intended to be abused this way by Valve. What you can however do is make a community server tweak the values of the game and have bhopping be easier again. A simple fact that Valorant will never have because Riot.
player boosts is a thing, same with ability boosts (yoru clone, kj turret)
Clueless take
Why don’t I face cheaters in cs? I have over 2000 hours and can’t remember the last time I’ve faced a cheater
It's probably because you have prime, without prime you get cheaters every 2-3 games
@@callumparker3293I'm a non prime user and we don't get that much.
I have around 2000 hours and have a cheater every 3 games or so when overwatch got removed from cs, before that I had a cheater every 8 games or so. You're either clueless to the cheaters in your lobby, or you're lying about your hours, or you didn't spend your hours in MM, or you're a very low rank (silver), or you're a statistical anomaly (extremely unlikely).
Forgot one possible variation, you could be suffering from memory issues.
@@ChromicClaw that’s true. I have not spent many of my hours in mm, I’m level 7 on face it. And play mm with my brother and cousin who are like gn3 on mm. Even when I used to play with a cheater myself 4 years ago without knowing, I don’t think my trust factor is that bad and I’m occasionally the one called out for cheating when playing in the lower ranks with them
i really dont think that skins should be compared as the skins in cs are closer to camos from cod then anything and at the end of the day its preference when we are talking about the skins themselves there are no pros or cons you can say u can sell the skins or that the skins have wear ratings that that doesn't make the skins themselves better
wait he didnt even talk about satchel movement or dashes etc?
Valorant maps are all like "ok" (some are shit tho, looking at you lotus), but there isnt any map that i feel like it stands out from the others, meanwhile in cs ofc you have classics that have been refined for over 2 decades.
What i will give to valorant tho, is that every new map is pretty easy to understand and you can adapt very easily even if you know nothing about it, for example the new map sunset, even though its an ok map, in 1-2 games i played i already knew what was going on, in comparison csgo even though it has some maps like that, most new maps are straight up confusing unless you play a lot, anubis is pretty confusing to me, and ancient a little less but still pretty weird. Maybe its because valorant has way less detail (graphically), but idk.
At the end of the day, cs maps are better because you actually have good maps instead of all of them being decent/ok, and i would definitely give the point to cs, but i dont think you can just trash valorant straight up.
Though maybe thats just for me and everyone else gets the same level of confunsion with new valorant maps that i get with anubis or something like that.
one game is 3-4 yo and the other 10+.
Agreed. Lots of hit and miss maps but they are playable. Certainly helps that there's no pick bans so people are forced to experience the maps, which in turn gives feedback to the devs to make it better. I personally am okay with Lotus because it's a great Sova map. CS has a concise visibility issue long withstanding. It takes tons of experience to get your eyes acclimated to the maps and corners so you can see the enemies where ever they peek. So when a new map is introduced, on top of needing to train your eyes, you need to know every little smoke, molly, flash area because they're very subtle. In Valorant you can press M and just look at the map and very easily understand what can and can't be done, what can be smoked, where you can flash. You can certainly expand on that with creativity, but the bar is wayyyyyyyyyy lower. Makes it more approachable and leads to more fun as the times of "forced learning & adaptation" is reduced.
is it just me or is sunset just riot trying to add a csgo-esque map into val? only spent 4 games on the map, and every time i'm on it i feel out of place trying to fight on such a tiny map that doesn't feel right. maybe with time it'll iron out (no pun intended), but seeing an asc-immo lobby struggle to find consistency on either side because it's practically just "contest the mains early and win your duels" without deeper strategy on both sides, is kinda funny
All maps are ok for me. Ascent for me just feels like a cut above the rest. (not crazy good but definitely better)
The problem of valorant maps more horizontal than vertical. Only split and ancient have elevation that take difference. Then everything is just left and right.
Riot is absolutely not a trustworthy company. Just look at the missmanagement and the list of huge scandals that got swept under the rug over the last couple of years. Also Riot games got bought by Tencent so Valorant might have good anti cheat, but the data from your PC is sent straight into the depths of some CCP server. That sounds really trustworthy to me
what’s my bro waffling abt
nobody cares we want no cheaters
But you know who is a trustworthy company ?
FUCKING VALVE!
so why the fuck are they not using a good anti cheat if RIOT can get away with it
@@lmskye You clearly are very ill informed
riot does not send any of your private data to their servers from your computer stop making shit up
viewers of onepixel trying not to mention valorant : Imposible
what i want in cs2 it's night maps and halloween maps like overwatch
how the fuck he hit lvl 10 faceit in 100 games? even if he got the aim still doesnt make sense
CS is a point and click adventure
@@mnamethonk did someone drop you
This is the type of kid to get boosted and act like he deserves to be there. Probably hasn't solo queued in 5 years lmao
its pretty easy to get level 10, people below 3k-3.5k elo are pretty bad at the game. he either was really good at cs and played esea mainly (he sounds american and esea was the main platform there for years) then switched to faceit when NA switched to faceit or he had an old acc that he abandoned and made a new account. the first scenario is probs what happened and you can commonly find lvl 10s with low matches in NA due to ESEA being the old main platform for pugs.
all aim zero brain
Point for gunplay in Valorant?
rng bloom? couldnt be me
as someone who plays both i can say it comes down to preference, but it is satisfying to hit 1 taps in both games
@@renans9318 Satisfying to hit. But to hear? Gotta give it to Valorant. The sound effects for each ramping kill, changing with the skin you use gas me up so good.
En la seccion de skin debieron haber puesto que Staxx se compro un lamborghini con su inventario. Ejemplo a seguir
csgo players combusting whenever they see a pixel of colour and seeing a gun that doesnt look like a terrorist used it
I feel like he shouldve touched on communities too
they are comparing the games, not the players
if im being honest valorant takes that point. sure from what you maybe see online, it seems as if the community is filled with a bunch of no life cringe tiktokers who say dumb shit. but when you actually play the game, the chances of seeing one is abysmal. there are a lot less racist, sexist people and there is a lot less of people purposefully trying to ruin your game.
although i will say csgo's competitive community is 10 times better, the crowds in valorant are the most disappointing thing i have seen (this could be for the short amount of time the games been out for) but in a csgo crowd there is so much more passion in their teams and who they support.
but for the casual player, who just wants to get home after work, take some time out of their day to play a game. valorant takes it by a mile without a question. so much less toxicity
@@ojtiv Big agree in regards to the enjoyability for the average player. I'm hoping CS2 brings some new life to the game which may help the community a bit, because as it is the player base drives me away from CS these days. Occasionally my friends and I will go back to CS for fun to play a couple games, and invariably we just get...not sure how else to put it, just absolute weirdos on our teams.
Interesting Video, I'm getting 36yo this week and CS was always my true love when it came to gaming. Started playing CS in 1999, good old internet cafe days in germany when CS was still a mod of HL1, when did it became 1.6 again? in 2000 or 2001, good memories, best game i loved 1.6.
How ever i didn't play source didn't like it that much, after a LoL break i came back to CS with CSGO, fk LoL! CSGO was fun but MM is a horrible experience, Ive only 400Wins in MM and mostly only went there to get me my global back after longer time not playing on MM. Faceit grind like every one who takes the game even slightly serious and i get what he meant by 'when youre global people will ask, "ok but what faceit level are you", the typical Global when i played was around lvl 6-7 and that's ok, still far from lvl 10 right, at least anti cheat and 128tick and support ect. right.
After i was out because of health issues for almost 2 years, i didn't want to go back to CSGO i knew with all the issues and missed time and so on i never would make it back to the level i was and i don't like playing MM, so i started playing Valorant, yep. Long story short, took me a few months to get into Ascendant and the Rank system is not as great as mentioned in the video! Its pissing me off, its sometime bs AF, with that hidden MMR and smurfs and the game has cheater, its just not as many as in CSGO and less noticeable, how ever, it feels like they wont be detected when you feel like some one is cheating. Ive even found people when they gave me their Vod and i was like, dude, what... time laps, bruh you're using an aim assist i can spot that you little mf!
Or a classic with the MMR that happened to me, my main acc got into the smurf lobby every time, because i bring my CS skills into the game, Win a game with 34/10 K/D against people with same or even higher rank as your self, see you in your next matches with toddlers who are to stupid to get a square into the right pass form on your team and 4 of five opponent players being smurfs from hell, get bashed down to fkn Diamond like the Rito wh*re youre, super fun, great Rank system.
None the less, i kept playing the game and I kinda like it, even bought some skins... and some more... ok may be i spent around 600€ but lets not talk about that.
My actual point is, both games have their appeal and i Like the video, buuuut ill test out CSGO 2 and Im super excited, if they manage to fix the fkn cheater problems, fk Valorant! I knew, when Valorant came, this might be the competition stagnating CS needs to make them start improving CS, hopefully that's it.
2k hours in val (been radiant) & almost 9k hours in csgo (3.2k elo on faceit)
Gunplay does not come close at all csgo smokes valorant along with movement.
I kinda agree with maps cause a lot of cs maps feels very stale & the maps I usually enjoyed such as 2020 vertigo, old cache, train etc just gets removed / changed meanwhile mirage exists.
I still haven't run into a cheater in comp, only have seen a few in flying scoutsman and wingman. I have 1.2k hrs
I would love both community stop hating each other and ohne to play valo
Tbh it's more just the cs community hating the valorant community, I never really see valorant players complaining about cs the same way it is the other way around
@@callumparker3293 except few ex cs players malding about update after 10 years being celebrated 😅
the custom gun sounds are only there for your self
the ara ara system is awsome x-x
Just try both games for yourself. Nobody’s life gets better from shitting on either of the games, but by doing so you might discourage someone, who might like one of them, from trying it
i don't play much valorant but i have much more hours in it than cs:go. the first time i played cs:go i encountered countless cheaters because i didn't buy the thing to get me into non-cheater infested lobbies. cs:go's community is also much more toxic from what i've experienced, for example, i lost a clutch on one of my first games played so my team just kicked me. cs:go's movement is also much more floaty which was weird to me because when i stop pressing my key i expect to stop completely like in most other games. while i'm sure that mastery in cs:go movement makes it much more satisfying than valorant, it's simply seen as an impossible hill to climb for most new players, and that applies to many other cs mechanics as well like smoke lineups. valorant is overall a more simple game, so it's much more rewarding for newer players like me who don't want to sink thousands of hours into a game to be confident in your own skill.
thousands, take 500 max
@@waltuh6984 okay true but that's still a very long time
1000h is considered fairly new and your could easily do it in 100 or less if your focused and dedicated
@@waltuh6984 ok cs:go glazer. what's ur point? if 1000h is fairly new, that means people who played 1000h aren't at the top of the skill range right. so why would i even wanna try to get to that while going through cheaters and toxicity and extreme difficulty. if 1000h is fairly new, then 100 hours is super extremely new, so idk what ur trying to say. if ur saying that i could be good in 100 hours then ur just dumb i'm sorry. the only people who can be good at cs:go in 100h without ever touching it before are crazy aimers who have played games all their life and top rank valorant players. my point is that i don't wanna sink in all that time just to be able to feel like i'm in the top 20% of players. i play rainbow six siege and it took me about 2,500 hours to be a diamond player, so i do have a gauge of how much time it takes to get good at a complex game. granted siege has much more complexities and things to learn, but still.
@@conjon4918 i’m just saying that’s how long it’ll take for there mechanics to feel good and not foreign. in my experience there aren’t that many cheaters and if you find then they get kicked by thier team and banned somewhat soon. who cares if you’re in the top x% of players after you have the mechanics good you can still have a great time. if you do wanna play competitively or without any cheaters faceit is always there giving you that option
so, only slight problem with his "one cheater" is thats just the only one that got banned mid match, theres a decent possibility that there were other closet cheaters that likely got banned after the match (still a W compared to cs)
And don’t forget no replay system so no way of even checking out the enemies POV afterwards like in csgo, that way you could always chalk it up to skill diff unless they are super blatant.
that's also true, valorant needs a replay system so badly, so you can see if their cheating, along with being able to review your games without losing out on frames (also being able to see all pov's helps), as well as seeing stuff like lineups could help you know where enemies might be if their using said lineups.@@kevinmalk
"oh he looks like travis scott"
to me, valorant is streamlined so much so that the flavor you get comes from trying out different agent compositions and the like. CS the flavor comes from the constant improvement. So in the end it ends up being a pick between "do i wanna be rewarded for independent skill, or do i wanna be rewarded for playing around my teammates."
what can you improve at in cs that isn't also something you train in val besides bhopping and counter strafing which are very much source engine mechanics
@@Rokusu the weapons in cs are wayyyyy more difficult than valorant, that's something
@@duduzasso3596 sure they are, doesn’t make the game harder tho, in val both teams have that advantage of simpler weapons, just creates a different variation on the same improvement
@@duduzasso3596 If they had just not implemented the TFT2 / Overwatch 2 style of implementing potentially hundreds of characters thus hundreds of skins to sell, it would have a longer lifespan.
This is just IMO I'm not anti-fun if you're having fun, it's just a bit of a missed opportunity, twitch views of Valorant is going down if not dying.
@@MangaGamify nah the selling point of valorant is the different agents. also wdym by 'thus hundreds of skins to sell', the characters themselves dont have skins just the guns
Downloaded the play test for cs2. Completely broke my pc. Can’t play both versions. Good stuff valve
Sad 😢
1:00 Can't wait for that
The skin thing has its ups and downs. At least in Valorant you don't have to worry about "Is my skin going to go up or down in value?", and can have peace of mind. Also, you can get the skin you want for a set price. However in CS, the skin you want can be hundreds of thousands of dollars, which is bullshit.
Also In cs, aside from getting the skin from the market you can also gamble, and that shit is also bs. You pay hundreds of dollars just to get dogshit battle scarred blues from every case and the devs have no shame in it.
The price you pay every time you open a case can also be influenced by how much supply and demand there are, and that shit is bs just to get a dogshit battle scarred blue out of it. Oh yeah, there are patterns and how used the skin is, which is again bs. Like "Thank god I opened the skin I wanted after my 1000th try and I only wasted 20k dollars in the process. Oh wait, it is fucking battle scarred so it looks like shit. I can't even see the skin. Oh wait it has the worst pattern too", and Gaben be like "Unlucky ig better luck next time" while showing down two big macs down his throat and scratching his ass and also sniffing shit.
But I guess different patterns and how used the skin is offers variety, also some Val skins look absolutely ridiculous. CS has ridiculous skins too but Val's are something else man.
In my experience it's the difference in community, Valorant players are a lot more casual
Bro just said what every sane person would say if they knew how bad the Skin Market in CSGO is and how addicted the players are to that shit.
Skins in cs are shit because their cost is regulated by market and demand? You're a real idiot to call this system shit because you can't afford something, why don't you call real life shit if you can't afford something? Thanks for making me laugh so hard.
the gambling part, any real cs player know that if you want a skin you buy it on the market, not try to open it from case and no real fan care if your skin will go up or down in price the same way as valorant player dont care that they skin they bought is not tradable
Bro people that do not even play CS know maps from that game. What fucking maps does Valorant have?
I know there was Icebox, that everyone hated when it was in rotation.
I also played the game and I only remember Haven.
Man is comparing game from 2012 to one from 2020 lol
Most rtarded comment I've seen today so far. Congratulations!
@@IwoleK bro cs is from 1999
the only map people who don't play csgo will know is dust 2 that's it
Doesn't touch on the utility at all tho.
Also while I agree that csgo has the much better movement, I feel like he should have touched on valorant's movement abilities more in that section because those have their own semi unique skills like raze's satchel and maybe neon.
not the boom esport clip :(
in my opinion both r equaly good but the agents abilitys in val r better and the graphics are like newer so i like it more
valorant caters to younger kids with its cartoonish graphics so it makes sense
Graphics do not matter, gameplay does
ya kinda but thats my opinion u have urs and i respect it@@Realninja7214
it just looks smoother and thats ur opinion and i respect it
@@Longform1337
@@Longform1337 agree, but imagine valorant abilities in realistic visual like csgo. realistic bird flying to blind u☠thats gonna look hella goofy
Valorant maps are not as good, and not being able to pick killed the game for me early. I remember one night me and my friends got the worst map 3 times in a row. And then next day same thing happened. There was no going back after that.
It's good for a competitive environment, shit for a casual environment. It makes it so that all players play all the maps so that there is a level of fairness in all angles. Devs get consistent feedback, players get consistent experience, elevating quality across the board. In contrast to CS which has 2-3 maps with low queue times and others with 10min+. People will pick the maps they want and neglect every other map, thereby making the measure of skill difficult to measure for a player. You may only be good on Dust 2, but does that make you a good player argument. Valorant went whole ass into balance in that case, and for the health of several features in the game, it's a good one. Otherwise everyone would be playing Ascent. But in Premier mode I heard there's pick bans for maps.
@@RaeneYT CS2 fixes this with map specific ratings. No one wanted to play Ancient or Anubis or whatever map isn't Mirage, Inferno or Dust 2 because the ranking system was across every map. You might be global in skill on dust 2 but a nova 4 in skill on Vertigo but if you ever queue Vertigo you will be versing globals who know the map (angles, pop-flashes, smokes, mollys, rotations etc). Obviously there will still be favourites but it actually allows players to have a chance to have fun instead of going 0-16 while learning a new map
@@RaeneYT Not sure why valorant doesn't just do picks and bans for their maps aswell. This removes the issue of people getting frustrated by having to play maps they dislike by getting the chance to ban them. In cs2 you also get to see the win rate of your opponents on each map meaning you might deliberately choose to play a map you don't like as much due to your opponents being bad on that map. I think all 5v5 fps comp games should have a picks/bans phase for maps, I'm glad cs2 went that direction tbh
@@Toki829as mentioned in the video. Some agents are op on some maps. So if you onetrick that agent and only play that map you could get top 1% with top 15% skills just because you are maining an agent
@@Toki829 then people who like certain maps (breeze/fracture) will never get to play it because 70% of the community hates it.
valorant is a modern art museum
LMAO HE SAID "ara ara thats si self aware" WHEN HE SAID RR I DIED
Wait the movement one is so untrue i think it goes to both with how agents like neon or raze move or the ability to skill jump certain boxes or ledges and areas. Theres so much more to movement that people that dont do reaserch wont kno. I do agree base movement in valorant is not comparable to cs but if you combine abilities and certain actions that u can do with them I think the movement is way beyond what u can do in csgo
I agree, movement in valorant is easier to do and more beginner friendly. Instead in CSGO you'd spend hours just learning how to bhop correctly and strafe jump for certain boost and all that mechanical and overtly difficult techs.
valorant literally only does matchmaking better no one can change my mind
I dunno they got some banger music made in-house.
Character design is terrific.
Their cinematics destroy their operation trailers.
Having sounds for each kill, with each sound strengthening as you lead up to an ace. Those specific sounds changing with the skin of the gun you're using. Basically gassing up the player (I know CS2 yoinked this a little (no sfx), as they should its awesome.)
I don't want a games anticheat to be a rootkit on my pc.
glazing for CS is crazy on chat
I play Valorant 1000x times more than I play CS, and god from the limited time I have in CS, the gunplay and map design is so much better. Tbh, I would easily switch to CS if I didn't want to sink hours into learning CS and rather just stick with the familiarity of Valorant.
I also like that in CS everyone has access to the same utility but like how straightforward and simple utility is to use in Valorant.
if ur gonna play cs ever you should definitely get other friends preferable at least 2 other friends with you, its never a good idea trying new things by yourself, your just asking to get frustrated.
the only thing valorant deserves points for is the ranking system. as somone who has spend ~200h on valorant and reached d3 back when there were only 1 immortal and 1 radiant rank, i can say with certainty that valorant movement is easier, aiming is easier, everyone moves slowly, abilities allow you to play poorly and get away with it, and overall the abilities boost your performance a lot. at the time i was hardstuck in lem, and i climbed to diamond in valorant without much trying while forcing every single round and playing 1 tap only (deagle ak and guardian). cs is a much more complex game, and has both a higher skill floor and ceiling. then when it comes to cosmetics and maps, cs clears easily, especially with the release of cs2. also what does he mean riot is a well trusted company, they are literally owned by tencent lmao
tencent ☠️
not anymore with the premier ranking system coming to cs2... 😅
I find CS much easier than Valorant ngl.
@@Xyro--bro stop with the lies. your obv a valorant player. Valorant is so much easier than csgo. im silver 4 in csgo but plat 1 in valorant.
Thats what im saying.
I only play valorant as a warmup for when I got roll out the red carpet in CSGO
Gotta say, i played valorant like 2/3 hours bc i don’t really like it, i was always a cs enjoyer, and i have to agree that valorant skins are very very good looking
Csgo skins (especially rarer ones) win on the “prestige” side of things, having a ruby or blue gem karambit is way more prestigeous than owning a valorant knife
I prefer valorant over CSGO because of the diferent agents and abilities and the maps I just think it is more fun and less repetitive, also Valorant graphics look more appealing to me because CSGO graphics look a bit generic
exactly, vals graphics are cartoonish and cater to those with a mind that prefers that
About the anti-cheat thing:
1. CSGO's hacker problem is completely fine if you just don't have a low trust factor. I have a super high trust factor because I don't team kill and I'm not toxic and I have only gotten 1 cheater in my entire CS career.
2. Valorant is a newer game so it doesn't have as many cheats developed yet but it is growing.
It's not about how many cheats are developed , amount of valorant cheats flooding the market is huge. First of they sue cheat devs, unless you want to go head to head with Riot at court - you'll shut down your cheat development, second - Vanguard is a good anticheat, it doesn't have so many weaknesses to start with, but then you also need to find a way to bypass it, its not that simple. They also buy cheats that are on the market and insert the signatures in Vanguard , so "this" and many other similiar cheats are detected within the system - so it bans ppl. There is a guy who joins discord servers with cheats and manually bans the whole server. It goes in no comparison to cs go, there are almost to none cheaters in Valorant. It is a really rare to see a cheater, everything you see online - bannable within 12 hours, but the cheats do exist and they cost a fortune, clearly very small amount of ppl can afford that. So your chance to get in a game with a cheater is almost 0. You just don't know what you're talking about when you say "it doesn't have many cheats developed"
Same. People who get cheaters just have trash trust factor i.e toxic, leavers, throwers,
watching people say cs2 will fix all the issues back 7 months ago is breaking my heart. Just recently swapped to valorant temporarily because of the cheating problems.
theyll likely not do kernal access atleast not soon because they want cs2 to work on their steamdeck and that runs on a modified version of arch linux..... this makes it difficult as they would have to make kernal access compatable for both kernals which is difficult. so if it does happen probably not soon.
have played quite a lot of valorant and since quit - anyone whose saying valorant maps are good is smoking the good shit
there's genuinely no comparison between CS and Valorant maps - they have small parts of the maps that are nice but valo maps are generally pretty dogshit
He really weighted skins and gunplay/movement as equal categories that were all worth 1 point LOL and no way that Valorant gunplay with hitboxes the size of a country is anywhere near CS
have we played the same game? from my experience, the valorant hitboxes are more or less perfect, even with ping differences it still feels accurate
Hit reg in Valorant, compared to regular CS MM is just way better, hence more satisfying in regards to gunplay. Yes the guns are easier to use, but its well complimented by a terrific hit registration system. But it's not because the hitboxes are bad, but rather the rules they play by. They're "realistic" in that you only damage the human, not any of the objects they are wearing. So if they're wearing a stupid hat (looking at you CT model) or anything else not relevant to the human inside, the hitbox is just deceptive. That's why the hitbox feels shitty, because its accurate to what you're hitting in a weird way. But in Valorant, it's more unrealistic, cartoony, so they don't have to abide by rules. They make the model the hitbox. You hit the model, you're hitting the hitbox. No fuck ups on their end. So it feels nice.
Its not that special that vanguard has a kernel driver running on your computer, actually many modern anticheats have one like easy anti cheat or battle eye.
Bro pixel talking about skins in csgo is like watching asmongold talk about transmogs in his competition. I have absolutely no idea what they are saying
CS2 I really think is going to take over. But cs SERIOUSLY needs a VALORANT level anti cheat
cs2 will not make the game anymore popular than csgo it will retain the same audience with a few more casuals than before not a single pro will switch to cs2
@@kyro3259 Not really, a lot of people are bored with csgo, with cs2 all of them will be back
CS2 will certainly bring back old CSGO players, but its not going to touch valorant's core audience. They are simply catering to different tastes in the same genre. It would be like expecting a big update to DOTA2 to make a big dent on league, the communities are too entrenched at this point.
@@level8473 cs2 is literally just the same game with a coat of paint, I doubt more than 6 pro players will permanently swap over
@@Listed_Gamer Same game? you clearly have your pants drizzled with valorant copium juice, that just shows your inexperience with csgo
I played a lot of Valorant back when it came out. The maps are ass there are decent parts of some maps, but they are terrible for attacking on most. They aren’t even close to equal. I believe I’ve heard the new maps are flipped, easier for attackers. Skins are cringey on Valorant, sure there are some decent ones. The market makes for a actual great skin system compared to other games. Maybe if Valorant added trading for profit for skins in some way instead of scamming it’s players for $100 for a couple of skins anyone can buy, it’s just not worth $100 compared to CSGO’s system. Lastly gameplay, you need a simple game to get viewers/players for example Rocket League. All you need to know if soccer one team scores in the opponents net simple. CS/Valorant plant bomb or kill all enemies simple to understand. Except Valorant adds a bunch of garbage flying across the screen from maybe 20 different characters with different abilities. Not easy to understand especially when they add more and more characters. If it was like R6 maybe, but they can make huge walls and summon dogs/birds what random person is going to join a stream and see the start of a round to a confusing mess of a game to watch. Easy answer CS might be really outdated, but it beats out and pulls more viewers than anything Valorant can do simply because it’s easy to understand and play if you wanted to get into it. Without having to memorize every possible ability. Plus requiring you to install malicious software to “protect their game” is a terrible practice by any developer. We all know how scummy/greedy these game companies have become. Why would I ever risk my computer for their game they should be protecting themselves instead of taking over a person’s computer info.
No way you genuinely expected somebody to read all of that shit ☠️
Also your take on the anti cheat system is 100% wrong, vanguard does absolutely nothing to your computer and I used to be worried about it too until I started playing more and realized it doesn’t matter. Also in valorant there are way less cheaters
Volcano only knew how to making square object when he created a map
@@Dranzer2024Bro for fck sake. I have never seen a cheater in ccsgo and ive palyed sicne 2016. Only time i saw some was when i palyed with my cheater friend in a non prime lobby.
@@pylob6530 but why do people have to pay just to get less cheaters? Also isn’t it still possible for people to cheat even if they have prime??? Average valve moment
idk man, valorant feels like you get stunned supressed silenced flashed and exploded every step you take. cs has a similar issue with the flashes but its much worse on valorant, + you need somewhat of a game knowledge to pull good flashes or smokes on cs
' valve, please take my kernel access, please please please take my kernel access. " lmao
Nah, Valorant is garbage.
how so?
Yeah what's your rank in Valo?
i dont know if its just me but I don't give a shit if i can sell my skins, an ok skin in csgo costs like $200, shitty purples can be up to like $30-40 like the fuck in valorant at least I can get the best skin in the game for $20, I'm gonna a use it so why do I care if I can sell it
There are a ton of good skins under $10 what you talking about?
@@arislanbekkosnazarov9644I think he might have smoked a bit too much today
Not if you want a knife skin. Forget about the one that you actually like, you can't even get anyone.
lol so what if its only $20? if you buy a $200 skin at least when you quit you can get the money back. Not only have you gotten the experience of having a nice skin, you also get some of the money back, youe money just drains itself when you buy a valo skin
@@Prowls5432 every knife i ever had i was able to sell with profit. skins generally go up in price over time
cs and valo is diff game , they have own beautiful thingy on their personal game.
No one talking about ohne saying his travis scott prf pic looks like travis scott
can't wait for the ohne val stream
ohne really believes cs is the first and only game to have 5v5 system and any other game is a copy