She is a miracle from birth the doctors wanted her parents to abort her due to radiation treatment said she wouldn't be normal or healthy. but both her parents are traveling ministers that refused to abort and prayed to God and I'm thankful to listen to her music. he who is without sin cast the first stone.
It has nothing to do with judgment. Which as professing Christians by the Word of God we are able to judge other professing Christians righteously. Her doctrine is NOT sound. Her Gospel IS false, and she surrounds herself with false teachers and endorses their behavior.
You have to mention the heresy if you're going call someone a heretic. What has she said and done? I believe in the scriptures alone, so I need to know what she proclaims that goes against the Bible/God's inspired words.
You Can watch her video "Finding the Presence Of God" to Hear Kari Jobe "Isn't" a Christian and Knows Nothing about GOD!!!!! No One Can "Find" GOD'S Presence And Worshipping GOD as She says Isn't "moving Your hands Or Your body as she States Among other things she says!!!!! In The Bible it Says "We Worship GOD In Spirit and Truth"!!!
@@kassandraking6623 Wow just wow! I did my own research and you are most certainly incorrect. 1 Peter 5:8 The Passion Translation 8 Be well balanced and always alert, because your enemy, the devil, roams around incessantly, like a roaring lion looking for its prey to devour.
@@conservativechristiantruthchnl if you have the chance to watch them, a great YT teacher named Mike Winger of Bible Thinker has a very well researched and informative series of videos on the Passion Translation that you might be interested in.
@@elizabethp4064 I urge you to trust in the Holy Spirit for your discernment and not any particular translation of the Bible. I do not get my understanding from new agers as you so put it. I rely on my relationship with God, my Trust in Jesus and the Holy Spirit Living in me to guide my way to Truth. God Bless
Hey brother, It’s ok to call out a heretic, and I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with your assessment, but I do think it would help your cause to at least post something she’s publicly said to back up your criticism, especially critiquing her without actually personally asking her what she truly believes. Graduating from Oral Roberts University, and being a “charismatic”simply does not make one a heretic. The same would be true if someone were calling you a heretic. I would simply ask them to prove it. I just think your video would carry more weight if you had documented evidence. God bless you!
I agree. Guilt by ASSOCIATION is not quite enough. Being associated with the wrong people may LOOK suspicious; but is no proof that they are a heretic.
Well, Kari is all about the byproducts of the Christian faith, e.g., “healings, blessings, awakenings,” instead of being about sound doctrine and truth. She writes music and performs with the most prolific and dangerous false teachers and false churches of our day. She follows a heretical eisegesis method of biblical interpretation, she knows little about what the Bible actually teaches on sound doctrine, and even thinks she speaks in “tongues,” i.e. gibberish.
Exactly it’s an association fallacy you can’t just claim that because she went to the same college as heretics like Kenneth Copeland or Joel Osteen that she therefore believes the same things they do.
I am a praise and worship leader. I actually met and sang with Kari some years ago. I just remember her being very sweet and kind. She taught us a song she wrote intitled no sweeter name. It's a very beautiful song thay edifies Yeshua..My Mom is a prolific songwriter as well. When our senior pastor passed away,a young man from Kenya Africa came to take his place. We we're singing Mom's wonderful songs to the lord, but this new "pastor" wanted us to start mimicking Hillsong, bethel, elevaton, Jesus culture. He said our songs were not annointed, and did not speak to today's generation. I left that church,and now that "pastor" has no musicians, no worship leaders, and he is playing these churches music on CD. His congregation has dwindled to 16 and I am so glad I listened to God's voice and shook the dust off my feet!!!
elevation and hillsong?? there's literally nothing anointed about them....they're LOUD, experience-driven, and "trendy".....it's pop for christians that's it
What is his credibility in saying this? Heretic, for graduating from ORU? That's it? Where did he get his enlightened wisdom from, to warn us of her? Whether it's true or not, I wish he pointed out instances she proved she us a heretic.
@@lolachrism07 The Bible. Scriptures!! The Word of God. Something WoF uses for their benefit to mske $$. And leaders of the church ste to call them out - scripturally show their heretical beliefs. The plumb-line are all the scriptures in context. WoF is Gnosticism. Idolizing self.
“Missionary Spencer Smith” has not one video on love of Jesus and calling people to repentance. He is not concerned with the call of spreading the gospel, but in getting followers and likes through accusations and gossip.
1 John 3:6. No one who abides in Him sins, no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. 1 John 3:9. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed (the light of the world, the light of life) abides in him; and he can not sin, because He is born of God.
@@samuelhall7136 that’s literally the biggest stretch i’ve ever seen lol he has plenty of videos on Gods love and repentance. One of the traits of “Gods love” is accountability. it’s important to expose people that are in heresy because they are the ones that should know the faith and are leading people astray. “ 17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.” James 4:17
I know Kari personally and to say she is awful is not ok. You can have your opinions about her and have the right to voice yourself, but it’s not ok to say someone is awful because you feel their beliefs are off.
Yes he can. He is not saying she is not nice. He is saying she is a fake Christian. Those are two different things . He has the right to say that because he is being discerning. He isn't trying to make a friend. He is telling the truth.
Her music plays loudly in my house as i praise and worship the Lord. She loves the Lord, you can tell that by the way she sings to Him. And IF she was all about being properous as you judge her, wouldnt she be promoting herself, no, she promotes Jesus 1st and always. Seek the Lord for confirmatation if your unsure on who to listen to, whether it be music or prophets. God bless brothers and sisters
Damien Lawrance In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place. Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross. As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
With all due respect Sire, I sincerely hope that you post more videos about doing great works for the Kingdom of the LORD rather than criticizing others. JESUS came and sit with the sinners, people with issues, people with no hope and then HE GAVE them HOPE. He stood for Mary who was about stoned to death, giving her second chance. One day his disciples asked him about others using the name of JESUS to cast out demons, and JESUS said not to stop them doing the work for the Kingdom of the LORD. Love covers all sin.
I appreciate that, but that has nothing to do with the heretical nature of Kari Jobe‘s doctrinal beliefs... warning against false teachers is a scriptural command.
Yosia BK In Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus also says “Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, he that work iniquity.”...
Spencer Smith And you base your comments solely based on where she went to school? You sound like a passionate, young man with potential to do good if you focus yourself on what really matters. Use your gifts to uplift people and spread the truth of Jesus. Leave the judgement to God.
Catherine Grace In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place. Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross. As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
If it's difficult to understand what Spencer said do this: 1. Get any of her teachings 2. Read and analyse what is in there properly 3. Compare that to what any of devil's club members have to say (Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Rondney Howard Brown, Osteen and the like) 4. Your conclusion will be the same, she is a rank heretic.
@@skokenos Finally, someone not following the crowds with pitch forks and seeing through the smoke and mirrors. People would be amazed how much they would learn by simply using 2% of their brain.
Drikus Diamond Isn’t that his job since he’s the one calling her a heretic? I’m not agreeing or disagreeing, but if you’re going to go through the trouble to make a video calling someone out, then at least give maybe one quote from that said individual to back up your claim.
Sam Kokenos So in your world, Jesus would have been a prostitute and a winebibber? She’s simply guilty by association? I just can’t go along with that line of thinking.
Whatever happened to, “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity.” ??? I get that you like the old hymns. I love the old hymns too... but I resonate with them even more when they are in a musical format that draws me in, rather than one makes me fall asleep. Kari Jobe may have gone to Oral Roberts University, but she has written some solidly biblical songs that have brought me to my knees over and over again in worship of the One True God. Eg. Revelation Song, Forever, Find You On My Knees, What Love Is This...
As I agree with you but did you mean her songs brought you on knees? I am a worshipper but I don't think I want my voice to put people on their knees if not the work of God, then I am scared.
@@slibertas1996 Actually, that is a rip off of an older Anglican prayer (Yes, the first verse is from the Torah, where God mentions how Aaron is to bless the people of Israel (the Church hasn't replaced Israel) -- but that is all there is to it). Please note that quoting a part of scripture doesn't necessarily mean that passage applies to you. The Bible talks of someone else (yes, that person, not one with a forked tail and horns, but someone who masquerades as an 'angel of light') who also quoted the scripture, and the argument sounded reasonable, but the quoting was out of context! Please at least consider what I have to say. --> The constant repetitions, Lights+Sound effects and theatrics are meant to draw one into a trance-like state. I live in India and see these being done all the time at pagan places of worship. These techniques are designed to create an experience that lets your doctrinal guard down. Compare that to the part when the Bible instructs us to "be sober, be vigilant...". Almost every charismatic place of worship follows these worldly techniques and unfortunately, many Bible based churches seem to be following suit. --> The song really doesn't mention God, in the sense that, it does not worship Him. In fact, it doesn't mention anything about praising Him, neither does it talk about the sacrifice done on the cross for a sinner like me, nor does it encourage one to walk in His ways as a believer treads the narrow and strait path. In fact, most of these songs (including the Blessing) DON'T EVEN MENTION THE NAME OF JESUS!!! Does that sound like a Christian song to you (when compared to those with depth, like "It is well with my Soul", "Amazing Grace", and many others)? I would say no! It is a feel-good song, that is directed to make the audience glorify themselves. No wonder, Furtick was one of the songwriters. He injects himself into scripture in almost all his sermons. Honestly, I take no pleasure in criticizing Kari, I do recognize the skill and talent that she has. It is simply that all the skill and talent of the world is of no use unless the emphasis is on the message of the Gospel (or) Praise to the LORD. I am still waiting to see a praiseworthy Hymn to surface in our generation, I am sure there are a few good ones out there, but they are largely overshadowed by the pomp, show and hype of these shallow ones.
It is true..she ask to buy his extra special tickets after few conversations..even she knew I was in financial problems...I am so happy stoping wowrship the worshippers and back to the True Gospel...brrr..I hope you will see it afterwhile ...
When God says “touch not My anointed...” He meant it. i pray that you repent of your sin and receive God’s forgiveness for your pharisee-like character and nature.
Good morning!!! That's taking scripture out of context. It refers to physical harm of a prophet. For example in the book of Samuel when King David had the oppurtunity to kill King Saul and he stated that he will not touch God's annointed. You can call people out if they are in the wrong. And all of us have an annointing if you come into the gospel of Jesus Christ; repent and dedicate his whole life to him. Be Blessed :-)
Bridgett Allen You yourself just stated that a person can call someone out that’s in the wrong, yet the video never actually addresses any “wrongdoing.” It consistently uses generalities and vagueness and does not actually prove or say anything at all. Corinthians tells us that if we have not love, we are nothing. Even if “not touching the anointed” is addressing physical harm, most believers understand that many truths are parallels for other behaviors and while this video is not a “physical” form of harm, it is destructive in nature. Again, my statement about pharisee-like behavior still stands. Nowhere else in scripture are we told of our nothingness apart from the absence of love. Repentance is necessary anytime a person’s heart is in the wrong place towards his brother.
@@richardkozo5880 I understand that. this video is still, however, not productive, not edifying, and not building the Kingdom. and it definitely is not loving thy neighbor as thyself.
@AGAPE CHILD how about we both repent of our own sin, as all believers should do daily? instead of making videos like this that do not actually accomplish anything nor provide any substantial proof of claims.
I’ve read the comments and people are still whining,”who are you to judge?”. It’s not judging folks, it’s called discernment. We are commanded to test the spirits. We’ve become so enamored with emotion and feel goodisms (I know that is not a word) that we have abandoned sound doctrine. Be like the Bereans. Spencer, keep up the good work.
So literally listening too Keri Jobe is the same as Listening to ACDC or ??? all day??? Isn't this what all Christians singers do then??? So tell me who I should listen to Christian sing that is?? Or which Christian singer do you listen too ??
😂 He called her pretty and talented and told us what university she went to, then spent the rest of the 5 minutes talking about Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, and the devil.
Am from Africa...i heard her song onces, and my spirit rejected it.. I didnt even know who she was...to me that is what happens if the Spirit of God in me is alerting me of a no go zone....until later i began to know about her connection with Bethel Ihop who heavily use the kundalini spirit to minister...now i see this today...for me am not surprised...
Romans 12:1-2 We renew our minds daily by cleansing them of the world’s “wisdom” and replacing it with true wisdom that comes from God. We worship Him with our renewed and cleansed minds, not with our emotions. Emotions are wonderful things, but unless they are shaped by a mind saturated in Truth, they can be destructive, out-of-control forces. Where the mind goes, the will follows, and so do the emotions. First Corinthians 2:16 tells us we have “the mind of Christ,” not the emotions of Christ.
I can't feel the holy spirit on the blessing song but the other songs I can the Garden cd . As Christians we need to pray for them not stone them with no proof. God is going to Judge us all. Get your heart right we have all sinned against God examine yourselves.
Man when you attack someone’s idol they sure get upset. Reading all the comments that state “I like her” is a red flag in itself. We should never elevate or like someone just because they are beautiful and can sing. That’s one of the main issues with contemporary “Christian” music is people worship the artist more than they worship Jesus. Yes maybe they are worshiping God but even if you’re worshipping an artist a teensy bit that is WICKED. It reminds me of being lost and having all my rap/rock idols that I like/loved even though I had never once met them. I do not have to worry about idolizing a hymn, I can focus strictly on the praising and glorifying of Jesus Christ which is what we as Christians are suppose to be doing. I learned this lesson the hard way when I first got saved with a “Christian” rap artist named Bryson Gray, I bought all his music and listened to him constantly. He would use the KJV and everything. Then one day he stated that “Jesus isn’t God.” I was so heartbroken and angry at him and God slapped me with the truth that this MAN was an idol in my life. If we get that upset about the truth of someone then maybe we should ask ourselves if we are idolizing that person.
There's a lot of compromise and if we really focus on Jesus then we should point out the false prophets, and the false Jesus. God does not mean for all people to be rich deny yourself and take up your cross doesn't mean prosperity gospel. A holy God means judgement, love of God means truth. And this newage religion is compromising the church so much that there is a desperate need for apologetics. Ravi Zacharias, genesis apologetics, answers in genesis. God bless.
You are failing to even point out why you're saying she is heretic. You just linked her to the famous heretics but you said nothing about her. Please let the girl spread the word of God even Jesus interacted with non believers to spread the gospel
Have you met Kari? Have you heard her in person or even teach on video? She’s an anointed and talented vocalist, humble, an excellent teacher, do you have nothing better to do? Glad you know what’s in her heart and how she believes just because of where she graduated. Where did you graduate? Let’s judge you on your school background. Oh let’s go back to 3 hymns every Sunday, we can’t lift our hands either. No more worship music so that we can go to heaven! 🙄
Anytime I hear a preacher or Christian talk about someone being anointed, or an anointing, relative to an outpouring of The Holy Spirit, I know they are a heretic. If a true Christian has any spirit, it’s The Holy Spirit... and every Christian is sealed by Him. If a person has any other spirit, well, it’s not God, but a deceiving spirit.
How about analyzing some of her lyrics? All you say is she went to a university that Copeland and Osteen also went to, and nothing more. By the high number of "dislikes", many other people feel the same way as I do.
I've analyzed some of her lyrics, and the first verse of her song "Forever" really opened my eyes : The morning sun was dead , the Savior of the world was fallen. This verse is not talking about Jesus, but Lucifer, as he is the one often referred to as the morning sun and who, according to the Bible, fell from Heaven. Please, ask God for discernment, because the enemy works through the most unsuspecting people. God bless you =)
@@Tyler-Hoskins No, but Satan is a master deceiver and his best strategy is to mix truth with lies. Just look at the catholic church : a little bit of truth and a whole lot of deception. Kari Jobe has close ties with Pope Francis and gladly attends the events promoted by him : any politician, artist or preacher who is on the side of the Vatican is automatically working to bring about the Antichrist's system on earth ... these are the words of Jesus, not mine. Have a great day =)
@@Tyler-Hoskins There is a difference between pointing fingers at someone and exposing dangerous doctrines that lead people away from God. What do you think of these passages ? Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves ( Matthew 7:15 ). For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness ( 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ). Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret ( Ephesians 5:11-12 ).
@@Tyler-Hoskins Not everything is heretical just because you don’t agree with it or like it." You're right. It's when something is clearly unbiblical that needs to be exposed, independently of who said it. Pope Francis is saying that all paths lead to God and creating a One World religion, instead of claiming that Jesus is the only Way, the Truth and the Life : why does Kari Jobe even attends events that promote this false unity among religions ? It's not the words that matter : actions speak louder than sermons or worship songs. If you close your eyes and ears in front of your favourite pastor or singer, make excuse for them and just tolerate or shrug everything they say off, how are you able to differentiate between false teachers and those who are teaching the pure and unadulterated Word of God ? Be careful about defending false prophets like Furtick, who said that God "broke the Law for love" and that He "sent His Son in the likeness of a sinful man." Really ? Please, study the Bible on your own and don't trust every preacher, but test whether what he/she is teaching lines up 100% with the Scriptures.
@@Tyler-Hoskins “God sent his son in the likeness of sinful man” Again... yes. And I don’t see what your problem with this is. I've never met a christian who believed that Jesus is not sinless. Have you actually opened a Bible in your life ? “God broke the law for love” um... yeah? He absolutely did! Many of these things went starkly against the laws of Moses." Is God a sinner ? Please, read these words of Jesus and the apostles : “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven ( Matthew 5:17-19 ). Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples : “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them ( Matthew 23:1-3 ). If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love ( John 15:10 ). Everyone who commits sin also breaks the law; sin is the breaking of law ( 1 John 3:4 ). For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments; and his commandments are not burdensome ( 1 John 5:3 ). Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law ( Romans 3:31 ). Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth ( 1 Corinthians 5:3 ). As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead ( James 2:26 ). I can post many more passages, but I think these are enough and don't support the claim that "the Law was broken or done away with at the cross", that's why it's better to truly know the Scriptures before listening to any pastor or preacher : if you're not familiar with the Bible, you'll be led astray by the first teacher who tickles ears and presents heresies as biblical, like Steven Furtick, Kari Jobe, Pope Francis and many others do all the time. So, please, test every doctrine or preacher and, if something doesn't match with the Scriptures, drop it. Have a great day!
This is absolutely wicked. You did not mention one heretical thing Kari has taught, said or sang about. All you mentioned was her affiliation with oral Roberts University.
@R Ryan Jesus did go to Hell. Per my faith (Episcopalian), we have the Nicene Creed we say in services that says, Jesus Christ was crucified, died and was buried. He descended into Hell and on the third day he rose again and ascended into Heaven to be seated on the right hand of God the Father. This guy is one of those that is preaching that basically all notable pastors are heretics. One thing I can tell you is that Pope Francis is a true man of God.
Angst1966 In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place. Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross. As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
Wow!!! I pray that God works on your heart. Judge not, my brother. Your job is not to judge others. Your job is to bring people to Christ. I question your motives, and your walk with God. You do not speak the truth. You do not speak life. You speak hatred.
All I see and hear from Kari Jobe is someone who adores God with all her might, she's filled with the Holy Spirit and shows compassion for others. Ive never heard, as yet, of her preach prosperity, she's continuously praising God and wants everyone to do the same.
@@LowkeyXxx so was Jobe, Moses, David, Abraham, Solomon etc... What's your point, it's not money that is evil it's where you place it in your life. God should be first over all.
It's better for you to stop being jealous of God's anointed people and start preaching the true gospel of Jesus. May the Holy Spirit enlighten your heart. Jesus loves you though. 🙏
I stopped listening to this man because I noticed he had a horrible habit of always pointing out others flaws and not actually speaking for the Lord. And this video is pretty baseless to be honest
@@mwapeg Yet here you are here posting. Enlightening people with FACTUAL background data so that gullible people don't fall under the spell of deception is a bad thing now? Is hateful? Exposing false teachers/teachings/beliefs among our own is bad now? This sounds very similar to the first four books I read in the new Testament. Well, anyone is able to start a free youtube channel and set this guy straight with facts, why not you?
@Samuel Letner okay. I wasn't aware of that. I don't listen to her music. But that wasn't what my comment was about. I used to follow this man and watch all his videos. The point of my first comment was that I noticed he had a terrible habit of not actually preaching the gospel. My point was correction over condemnation. I personally felt like all he did was condemn without actually correcting and once i noticed myself doing the same, always getting ready to point out people's flaws and scream damnation at them instead simply preaching the gospel, i decided to stop watching his videos and I felt like a much different person.
I share your point of view -- associating with Hillsong, Bethel, Furtick, and the likes of them is a clear red signal as to what Kari's doctrine represents -- watered down form of some arbitary religion. And this is reflected in much of her lyrics, should one look beyond her voice and talent (which is actually quite good). But seriously, you should have presented your opinion much better than this, rather than calling her a heretic without concrete reasoning! Please do continue your warning against such apostate preachers and songleaders (I tend not to use the word "worship" leader; worship is deeper than the staged performance and arbitary mumbo-jumbo that they utter onstage).
Agreed - Have similar opinion, but this speaker did not present sufficient evidence to backup the claim. He repeated his opinion multiple times. Appreciate you for posting the other reasoning to help backup his opinion.
She has practiced joining up with NAR false apostle/prophet Bill Johnson and others like him and leads people to believe in them and their words above GOD and His WORD, through her very wrong example. She has made numerous statements that are unbiblical. She is deceived and deceiving as leading others into sin and error.
What’re u doin for the kingdom brotha?! Love your way but it looks to me like you’re getting off on putting people down. If you want to bring correction to the church, come with the full counsel of God and truth- not jokes and slander.
I have never heard or seen her say anything doctrinally incorrect. She and her husband lead with authentic JOY from having received the gift of salvation by grace through faith. They call on people to turn from their sin and follow Christ. So saddened to see her be condemned for something that you’ve presented no evidence of her doing. Slanderous gossip is also a sin.
All I know is she had a spiritual awakening that she talked about. She said she heard that Jesus suffered and burned in hell which is false doctrine. She repented and asked God to give her the wisdom and understanding of what the verse meant. Jesus never did suffer or burn or even went to hell. He went to Abraham's bosom to free the prisoners.
I agree. If this guy just keeps rattling on coz she's from Oral Roberts, that's the most despicable untruth I've heard. Is it coz she's pretty? He keeps mentioning that too. Would she be more believable if she was fat, short, crooked teeth etc??? Pointing someone as a heretic is very serious if that's all you keep saying. Is this guy just trying to gain attention? I'm sorry....but her songs lead me to worship. And what I do after that is on me. No one can judge someone's personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Point out some truths, so we might be enlightened. I can also keep saying this guy is a fraud, but how would it be credible if I can't back it up with some evidence. C'mon, man!
I'm not going to take a stand either way on thus one like I would Osteen, but it's true that you are not being specific. You can't just say "heretic" and have people agree with you unless you state what the heresy is.
Just be careful. The Lord warned us saying many will say Lord, Lord we did this and that and whatever in your Name. And then He will respond, go away into the fire, I never knew you
Kari Jobe has the Fire of God in her. She and Cody Carns proclaime Jesus in a powerful way and their music is blessing the nations. We should be praying for those that we may not see eye to eye with and asking God to search our own hearts, let's stop publically discrasing Christian's. God doesnt want us to be arguing and complaining about each other he wants us to be working together to do everything possible to help as many as possible to believe and recieve Jesus.
Sources man, sources! Same uni, does that indeed mean same "theology"? Add a snippet of her endorsing Osteen or the prosperity gospel in general. Without that I hear solely your opinion, not the support of they opinion. You're kinda repetitive in this video, just saying.
Citing famous graduates from oral Roberts University isn’t something that I have to prove to you, is it? The stuff is easily accessible with a quick Google search.
I love how someone can say they have proof of something, but when one asks for the evidence, they respond with "go look for it yourself". After all. It was back and forth about Lauren Daigle. So here's my suggestion. Don't listen to another human to tell you the heart of another human. We can only see the outer heart. God knows the inner heart. Therefore, trust in Him.
@@spencersmith312 Yeah, no. The whole reason I watch videos is so that I don't need to become a journalist myself. If you find it too much of a hassle to put in a 5 second snippet, or even a quote, then what does this video bring, apart from your opinion? If I want opinions with no basis I will go on twitter, not youtube.
@@SojournerDidimus it's also your responsibility to do some research. This would be the same as only hearing from the word of God through preaching. Sometimes you have to look it up yourself
i'm not gonna lie, i love u brother this video sorta grieved my soul. i'm sure she doesn't care about any of that (the praise of man, what you stated at the beginning of the video etc etc); she just wants to love on the Lord and worship/praise Him and lead others to do so as well.
I am a Christian, have been for twice as long as you have been alive young man. Being aware of false teaching and doctrinal heresy is one thing, calling it out, being accusatory and still not knowing the person you are accusing is a judgment we are not called to make. I have also been a lawyer in big international litigation for more than 30 years . You offered no evidence. You made insinuations without facts to support you assertion of Kari Jobe as the, worst possible woman". You like to hear yourself talk, you should do less talking and listen more.
Jerry Skinner That was exactly my point as well. They don’t want to hear it. You can call someone in heretic all day, but if you don’t back it up with specific personal statements from that individual, it just doesn’t carry any weight. I messaged him trying to tell him that, but it went nowhere.
Buddy, why pick a fight with God? Do you remember these verses? Roman's 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. Roman's 14:12,13 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. James 4:11,12 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
IF this person went to a university where some of the graduates have a distorted view of the Gospel-> THEN this person has a distorted view of the Gospel. This is not sound logic.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I knew Kari Jobe in her early days when I sang praise & worship with her at Gateway Church in Southlake, TX in the mid 2000s. In speaking with her offline and away from the stage, she expressed interest in "making it big" in the Christian music world and that she wanted to be famous. She was also very judgemental and critical of people's appearance and when I made the decision to no longer attend Gateway Church, she told me that she would NEVER sing with me again and that she "could not walk with me"... Whatever that means. Take away the fame and the wealth and she would not appear to be serving God - she serves one person, herself.
I’m not saying your testimony of her personal behavior at the time is not true because only you Shaun and the Lord Jesus know the truth. However, I must point out there’s a distinction between one having questionable personal behavior vs. holding extreme doctrinal positions as implied in the video. I think all Christians, still having a sin nature, sadly can walk in unholy behavior from time to time. But, to state Kari Jobe is a heretic is a stretch as Spencer did not present evidence and links to her literally “preaching heresy”. The brother does not know her personally and thus his video smacks of opportunism and the sin of presumption at her expense. You present an account of questionable personal behavior concerning Miss Jobe but not doctrinal issues held. Let us make this abundantly clear. Also, I want to make clear I am no apologist for anyones personal behavior, including Jobe’s. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. My question to you brother is are you praying for her to have a changed heart and to reconcile to Lord Jesus Christ and then to others? I’m sorry to what you experienced but we still must forgive and lift our brother or sister up in pray. Not saying you aren’t but I got to state it. Never forget Kari Jobe like the rest of us has to stand before the Lord to give an account for her life. She will and let’s pray, like us, she will repent now and have less wood, hay, stubble to burn than in that Day.🤔 Blessings🙏🏻
@@taylorforrestmusic what do you mean by when you say major giveaways of kundalini I know about kundalini but the way you said what are you telling us thanks
Thank you for being bold about this stuff. I submit a correction however: Angel of light is 2 Corinthians 11:14 rather that 2 Corinthians 9. (Not nitpicking)...
The Christian must “judge” or discern between good and evil (Hebrews 5:14)! We must make spiritual evaluations of the words and behavior of others, not to find fault, but to effectively guard our hearts against error and sin (1 Corinthians 2:14-15; Proverbs 4:23). Jesus warns His disciples "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15-16). This admonition is given not only with regard to “false prophets” but also concerning anyone who comes in the name of Christ but who, by his actions, denies Christ (Titus 1:16; cf. Matthew 3:8). Do your research and use your discernment.
In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place. Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross. As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
Hey so I'm 4 minutes 57 seconds in you claimed that this girl is a heretic but you give no actual words that she says that make her a heretic.get it together. If you're going to make claims like this you need to show her words prove that she is a heretic. Because so far all I've heard is Gossip from you. maybe you're the heretic accusing someone else of being a heretic.
No quotes from Kari Job about her being a prosperity teacher. And just because she went to ORU does NOT mean that she like Copland or Osteen. A very poor job of character assassination
I think what he’s trying to say guys is that, sometimes it’s hard to put a finger on it and explain it but, the Holy Spirit with discernment, can reveal the truth to some and not others. I agree with some of this video but for some reason, when I first heard her music, I felt the same way about her.
Motivation Apex her Kingdom Now theology does. Why would you sing something g about the death of Christ that is not true. That is absurd. She sang a lie
@@Scottiepups You have interpret the lyrics, you can't just read it at face value? It's called imagery, and it is super common in both songwriting and the bible. (Btw she don't even sing that in "Forever".)
You can enter heaven with bad theology. I was worshipping to a Kari Job song called 'We Cry Out'. My housekeeper came into the room and I didn't hear her. When I turned around, she looked at me with my hands held high worshipping the Lord. She said with tears in her eyes, "There is a God!" because she knew me before I was saved. My housekeeper came to faith that day. The bible doesn't say that you will know my disciples' by how much they are divided against one another. This is what the bible says, John 13:35 "By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." Here is the question at hand? Are you following John 13:35? Or are you following Revelation 12:10 AMP Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom (dominion, reign) of our God, and the authority of His Christ have come; for the accuser of our [believing] brothers and sisters has been thrown down [at last], he who accuses them and keeps bringing charges [of sinful behavior] against them before our God day and night. ARE YOU BEING LOVING OR ACCUSING? That is a question you must answer...
Homie, come on. I'm scared for you with these idle words. You claim she's the worst of the worst when it comes to heretics because she: 1. Went to Oral Roberts University. 2. Is associated with the charismatic crowd (as every worship musician tends to be). You didn't use any statements from her lips or song lyrics to back up your claim. Her lyrics are Biblically solid and there are no heretical statements from her lips as far as I know (and I've been following her for a while). Giving you the benefit of the doubt, she may be off on some non-essentials, but she's not off on the essentials or at least not publically expressing it, so your words are idle.
If you really feel that person leads wrong... Prayfully Submit your heart and mind to Lord with spirit. For that person ..... N that that person will turn out right in Jesus... Instead of exploring publicly bad about others. It's so shameful,dirty before Christ
I don’t even know how I came across this or why I watched more than 30 sec. however, what is your point of this video? Site your source and point to her actions that back up this slander? You don’t know her personally and this isn’t edifying at all it sows discord. But you do you.
NameLess That is the only thing this „missionary“ does...slandering people, attacking children of God, because he doesn‘t understand the bible or just doesn‘t like their style...!
I am amazed at the time and energy you invested in tearing another individual down who has been an incredible source of blessing to millions of people. Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, o man, whosoever thou art that judgest:.....
It’s funny how he says that Satan is working through people behind podiums and stuff..... but I have feeling he is that person! He only goes after big names and big bands, but why? Who knows
Fernandez Sucre amen! He has gone after Lauren Daigle & now Kari Jobe! I’ve never seen him go after other worship artist such as Natalie Grant, Mandisa, for King and country, MercyMe, casting crowns just to name a few!
He is right people... not only her but Hillsong and many many others. Y'all should look it up! And he is not judging... Jesus says to point out the wrong! That's what he is doing so y'all stop with "who are you to judge"
You all missed what he said. She is a graduate of Oral Roberts University. But go check for yourself what she teaches. You can say *o Spencer didn't provide any evidence* but why speculate? Go check for yourself and see
Steven,listen to hillsong united,when i lost my heart to you. I was raised in church,and im saved,but ive back slidden and have been drinking. I passed out at a pool hall and was woke up by bartender,she said i had to go. So i got up and went to my car. I was beyond drunk. I knew i couldnt get home;i pulled my phone out and played that song. After listening,i asked the Lord,please get me home. Please put your angel by my side and let me get home safely. I started my car and drove home without incident. In my foolishness,He heard my cry. You cant convince me God doesent move through their music.
I know Kari & Cody & I pray blessings upon you, that your eyes be open….they both LOVE & SERVE JESUS/Yeshua Messiah!! And, public tearing down is never a good look!! They will know us by our love👑💖🔥
I myself am a Christian. I know that I am far from the shining example of what a Christian should be. However, one thing I will say about myself is that I will not knock on whatever a person believes in. Every religion is different. Every religion also has its subgroups with different beliefs. I don’t dig into any of it bc to me almost all Christianity is the same as long as you believe Jesus died for your sins and is your savior and you don’t wish or do ill toward anyone. “Love thy neighbor as you would yourself” is a red letter scripture often forgotten. You can love your neighbor while still holding onto your beliefs and keeping yourself from calling them the devil. I don’t like hypocrisy. Bc what you believe is the right way is the wrong way for someone else no matter what. Ppl choose to be so divisive and judgmental. Just live and let live.
The last time I saw this guy, it was when he's calling Lauren dangle a heretic. Becareful of this guy, destroying someone's image just because they have the same background as of with the heretics, he only see and speaks HATE. I am a Christian and I bet if I became famous I would be included in his videos 😂
Let me ask you something brother... How can one "feed the poor" if you are poor or struggling financially yourself ???? Every Christian who is financially stable is not a wolf on sheep's clothing.
@@spencersmith312 you speak in your videos about "the prosperity gospel" as if being financially stable is a bad thing. And I was stating by that logic, that you must not believe in feeding the poor because feeding the poor would require money/prosperity, which you seem to think is bad or "heretic" thing.
Jonathan Haslon Please don’t accuse me of being against being financially stable and fiscally responsible because I oppose A heretical doctrine called the “prosperity gospel.” That’s lunacy.
@@spencersmith312 So how does one feed the poor with just mediocre financials ? I'm not asking this question in a condescending way btw I really want to know your opinion on the matter. If being a rich Christian makes you a "heretic" what other way is it to feed the poor ?
One of my good friends at church is an ORU grad. He does not follow the Prosperity Gospel. Just because she went to ORU doesn't mean she believes what the school teaches.
I'm disappointed that she and Cody are involved with the likes of Copeland, Osteen and Furtick. I used to be in the Prosperity Gospel. I went to Lakewood in the early '80's. I'm so glad that God opened my eyes.
Kari Jobe attended ORU; she didn’t graduate. I am actually an alumnus. An education from ORU doesn’t PROVE you believe in the prosperity gospel. No one receives a prosperity gospel degree. There are many of us that don’t subscribe to it. Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen have nothing to do with this. You sound ridiculous and hateful. Great job marketing your book though!
Question, let’s just say you are correct? Have you approached them either in person, call any of them or written any of them, or tried any other communications with them? Have you told them their faults as you see it, have you told them that you think the way they interpret the Word of God is in error? Have you afforded them them that as you see it, they need to turn from their ways? You know I am not calling you out, okay yes I am calling you out. Shouldn’t our mission to be is to give them a chance to go see the light as you do? When you do that then maybe just maybe you saved them from hell fire. Now if your mission wasn’t to give them an opportunity to change their ways then is it gossip? Or are you warning all about them? For me it would be a good idea to get both sides. It’s like when I see a video of someone coming against somebody or some group I only get to see it or see the the side of one(s) presenting their view, and a lot of times they put a bunch of edited clips that supports what these people are saying. Or in this case verbally you want people to believe what you are saying. Let me finish with a good thought, you have a good speaking voice God has given you, just maybe good for a preaching ministry, who knows, well God knows. Remember we are to always test the spirits when someone is singing or preaching also this includes your videos. Hey you know let’s just say you are correct, we are to even test what you are saying is biblical. Now there are people that weigh every word of a singer and preacher say, that’s ok. But I don’t go into a service waiting for someone to say something wrong. Praying and asking the Holy Spirit for discernment is the way I go. I must assume there are people that see your video (s) that may not know Jesus or there are people that may not read the Bible, therefore they are just getting one side.
Here is something that should be clear throughout the history of the Christian church, there have been errors regarding doctrines, but God weighs hearts and if it needs to be corrected it is necessary to let God do what he has to do with His person. If his songs minister to many despite some doctrinal error then there are things that God does that we will NEVER understand. Focus better on the gospel and remember that we do not have to concern ourselves with what is of your personal life with God. (John 21:22) God sees what he does with each one of us
Your father work is to go about judging people, like your own life is perfect Mumu,we all have flaws,we are all corrupt in these world, before you cast your stone, check yourself mumu
At the end of it all watch out that you won't be obliged to apologize to her as you did to Lauren Daigle. This fact of wanting to us to hate everyone is not good and after all they have blessed us because their career has contributed something great in our seasons we went through!!!!!
The Lord says“Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.” Matthew 7:1-2 Love is the heart of The our Abba Father, amen. All we say must be for God’s glory, and He gave judgement authority to Jesus Christ only. Lets just be obedient to the Word of Jesus Christ, our King and Saviour, who looks at our hearts. Hallelujah
I know this is hard for fundies to believe, but just because you go to a school doesn't mean you align exactly with the organization in all beliefs. I didn't hear a thing you said that proves your claim, just a rant.
In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place. Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross. As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
These comments against brother Smith are coming from people who lack discernment. When I was a new Christian many years ago, Kari had me fooled too. Her live version of the Revelation Song stirs up emotion, but it's only emotion. You have to go further than the music, find out what these people really believe in and you'll see most the time it's not biblical. Do not be deceived by these Hillsong heritics.
Kari Jobe is not a heretic. Can’t believe this would even be a thing. She brings in the presence of God with each and every song. She is one of Gods anointed and chosen. You should repent sir.
Thank you Father for your Love and Your Mercy! Lord I pray for Spencer Smith that his eyes of understanding are enlightened and that you show him your ways! He is a pure instrument of the devil! Plain and simple!
Deuteronomy 8:18 But remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your ancestors, as it is today.
Mr Smith, all of these negative comments from people, just proves that the STRONG DELUSION, isssssss here!!!! Amen brother, amen!! DISCERNMENT folks DISCERNMENT!!
Okay, dude. Number one, you can't call her a rank heretic if her music is pretty anointed. Through every song I hear from Kari, there is something so wonderful, not only in her voice but also in the words that are being spoken through those songs. Two, everything you said in this video was completely none of YOUR or OUR business. She's entitled to believe what she wants to believe but I think that's pretty clear. Three, you making this video was very unChristlike. You're a missionary, not someone entitled to expose someone else ESPECIALLY if they're servants of the Lord. Do some correct research, shut up, and grow up. Must be embarrassing being called out by a 16 y/o.
You are wrong on all points. "Through every song I hear from Kari, there is something so wonderful, not only in her voice but also in the words that are being spoken through those songs." Ok, what is this "something so wonderful" to which you refer? Is she singing biblical doctrine, or does she simply sound good and make you feel good? There's a big difference. Correct doctrine will lead you to Christ and into maturity as a believer, while music that does nothing but make you "feel good" will lead you down a rabbit hole even further from Christ. Therefore, what Spencer says in this video IS the business of every believer. Read 1 Corinthians 5. Christians ARE to judge each other in the church - it's called accountability. And before you quote "Do not judge" at me, research what Jesus was actually referring to in Matthew 7:1. He's saying we are not to presume to judge a person's heart or their motives, because only God knows what is in a person's heart and mind. But we ARE to judge people by their fruit (Matthew 7:15-20), and that is what Spencer is doing here. Kari can believe whatever she wants, and when she falls short of biblical teaching, Christians can call her out on it and warn each other to avoid her music. This isn't cancel culture, it's the leaven Paul warned us about in Galatians 5:9. So no, Spencer making this video is the opposite of unChristlike. Jesus himself called out the Pharisees and false teachers of his day, and he warned his followers to stay away from them (Matthew 16:6). And he warned us to identify and avoid them in the church. Every Christian is not just "entitled" as you say, but more than that, we are commanded to expose false teaching whether it's from a preacher or a singer in the church. Basically, everything you said in your comment is wrong, and it is YOU who need to sit down, humble yourself, and learn the truth. Try and do so before commenting.
She is a miracle from birth the doctors wanted her parents to abort her due to radiation treatment said she wouldn't be normal or healthy. but both her parents are traveling ministers that refused to abort and prayed to God and I'm thankful to listen to her music. he who is without sin cast the first stone.
You are completely missing the point. She has many heretical beliefs and surrounds herself with all of the worst false teachers
It has nothing to do with judgment. Which as professing Christians by the Word of God we are able to judge other professing Christians righteously.
Her doctrine is NOT sound. Her Gospel IS false, and she surrounds herself with false teachers and endorses their behavior.
You have to mention the heresy if you're going call someone a heretic. What has she said and done? I believe in the scriptures alone, so I need to know what she proclaims that goes against the Bible/God's inspired words.
You Can watch her video "Finding the Presence Of God" to Hear Kari Jobe "Isn't" a Christian and Knows Nothing about GOD!!!!! No One Can "Find" GOD'S Presence And Worshipping GOD as She says Isn't "moving Your hands Or Your body as she States Among other things she says!!!!! In The Bible it Says "We Worship GOD In Spirit and Truth"!!!
@@kassandraking6623 Wow just wow! I did my own research and you are most certainly incorrect.
1 Peter 5:8
The Passion Translation
8 Be well balanced and always alert, because your enemy, the devil, roams around incessantly, like a roaring lion looking for its prey to devour.
Agreed
@@conservativechristiantruthchnl if you have the chance to watch them, a great YT teacher named Mike Winger of Bible Thinker has a very well researched and informative series of videos on the Passion Translation that you might be interested in.
@@elizabethp4064 I urge you to trust in the Holy Spirit for your discernment and not any particular translation of the Bible. I do not get my understanding from new agers as you so put it. I rely on my relationship with God, my Trust in Jesus and the Holy Spirit Living in me to guide my way to Truth. God Bless
Hey brother,
It’s ok to call out a heretic, and I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with your assessment, but I do think it would help your cause to at least post something she’s publicly said to back up your criticism, especially critiquing her without actually personally asking her what she truly believes. Graduating from Oral Roberts University, and being a “charismatic”simply does not make one a heretic. The same would be true if someone were calling you a heretic. I would simply ask them to prove it. I just think your video would carry more weight if you had documented evidence. God bless you!
I agree.
Guilt by ASSOCIATION
is not quite enough.
Being associated with the wrong people may LOOK suspicious; but is no proof that they are a heretic.
I thought her songs might speak for her...
Well, Kari is all about the byproducts of the Christian faith, e.g., “healings, blessings, awakenings,” instead of being about sound doctrine and truth. She writes music and performs with the most prolific and dangerous false teachers and false churches of our day. She follows a heretical eisegesis method of biblical interpretation, she knows little about what the Bible actually teaches on sound doctrine, and even thinks she speaks in “tongues,” i.e. gibberish.
@@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548 correct.
Exactly it’s an association fallacy you can’t just claim that because she went to the same college as heretics like Kenneth Copeland or Joel Osteen that she therefore believes the same things they do.
You can’t judge someone just because of what school someone came from. Only God truly knows each and every heart.
Sorry but they are able to determine right from wrong despite being from a "school" they came from.
that's right
I am a praise and worship leader. I actually met and sang with Kari some years ago. I just remember her being very sweet and kind. She taught us a song she wrote intitled no sweeter name. It's a very beautiful song thay edifies Yeshua..My Mom is a prolific songwriter as well. When our senior pastor passed away,a young man from Kenya Africa came to take his place. We we're singing Mom's wonderful songs to the lord, but this new "pastor" wanted us to start mimicking Hillsong, bethel, elevaton, Jesus culture. He said our songs were not annointed, and did not speak to today's generation. I left that church,and now that "pastor" has no musicians, no worship leaders, and he is playing these churches music on CD. His congregation has dwindled to 16 and I am so glad I listened to God's voice and shook the dust off my feet!!!
elevation and hillsong?? there's literally nothing anointed about them....they're LOUD, experience-driven, and "trendy".....it's pop for christians that's it
Why did the new pastor wanted to play Hillsong, Bethel, Elevation and Jesus Culture Music? What was wrong with the songs you was singing?
You were very blessed
We are called to worship our Holy Father in spirit and in truth.
I salute you sir. Calling yourself missionary and tearing down people's characters. Instead preach the Gospel and do what true missionary do.
Just telling the truth…he is.
He also do this! you that are not paying attention
What is his credibility in saying this? Heretic, for graduating from ORU? That's it? Where did he get his enlightened wisdom from, to warn us of her? Whether it's true or not, I wish he pointed out instances she proved she us a heretic.
@@lolachrism07 The Bible. Scriptures!! The Word of God. Something WoF uses for their benefit to mske $$. And leaders of the church ste to call them out - scripturally show their heretical beliefs. The plumb-line are all the scriptures in context. WoF is Gnosticism. Idolizing self.
Oh people, how have we come to the conclusion that everyone is a heretic. Yall gotta know that people are sinners
“Missionary Spencer Smith” has not one video on love of Jesus and calling people to repentance. He is not concerned with the call of spreading the gospel, but in getting followers and likes through accusations and gossip.
1 John 3:6. No one who abides in Him sins, no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.
1 John 3:9. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed (the light of the world, the light of life) abides in him; and he can not sin, because He is born of God.
@@samuelhall7136 that’s literally the biggest stretch i’ve ever seen lol he has plenty of videos on Gods love and repentance. One of the traits of “Gods love” is accountability. it’s important to expose people that are in heresy because they are the ones that should know the faith and are leading people astray. “ 17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.” James 4:17
I know Kari personally and to say she is awful is not ok. You can have your opinions about her and have the right to voice yourself, but it’s not ok to say someone is awful because you feel their beliefs are off.
Yes he can. He is not saying she is not nice. He is saying she is a fake Christian. Those are two different things . He has the right to say that because he is being discerning. He isn't trying to make a friend. He is telling the truth.
@@joelhenry4643 how do you even know she’s a fake christian if you don’t know her personally nor are you God.
@@steflondon88 because I know how to discern. I've been given that ability by God. She's actually a transvestite.
It's not ok to judge based on assumption but if you put it out there for someone to observe and make a sound judgement then it's you're own doing.
Amen!!
Her music plays loudly in my house as i praise and worship the Lord.
She loves the Lord, you can tell that by the way she sings to Him.
And IF she was all about being properous as you judge her, wouldnt she be promoting herself, no, she promotes Jesus 1st and always.
Seek the Lord for confirmatation if your unsure on who to listen to, whether it be music or prophets.
God bless brothers and sisters
Mark Gallagher what does her song forever have to do with anything?
She preaches that Jesus went to Hell. th-cam.com/video/kO9QswQXEnI/w-d-xo.html
Jesus did go down to hell, to fulfil His promise to Adam and his descendants, and Abraham and so on, to gather them and take them back to heaven.
Damien Lawrance In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place.
Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.
As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
@@rryan8005are you saying that shoel hades and hell are different?
Because its the same place, the lake of fire is different to hell/shoel/hades
If she loves God with all her heart, and is kind to people -.shes got my support. I don’t see her ragging on other ministries.
With all due respect Sire, I sincerely hope that you post more videos about doing great works for the Kingdom of the LORD rather than criticizing others. JESUS came and sit with the sinners, people with issues, people with no hope and then HE GAVE them HOPE. He stood for Mary who was about stoned to death, giving her second chance. One day his disciples asked him about others using the name of JESUS to cast out demons, and JESUS said not to stop them doing the work for the Kingdom of the LORD. Love covers all sin.
I appreciate that, but that has nothing to do with the heretical nature of Kari Jobe‘s doctrinal beliefs... warning against false teachers is a scriptural command.
Yosia BK In Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus also says “Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, he that work iniquity.”...
Spencer Smith And you base your comments solely based on where she went to school? You sound like a passionate, young man with potential to do good if you focus yourself on what really matters. Use your gifts to uplift people and spread the truth of Jesus. Leave the judgement to God.
R Ryan Jesus did go to hell. Read your Bible.
Catherine Grace In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place.
Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.
As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
I didn't hear you pointing out anything about her. This was general and not right
You are correct 4 minutes 46 seconds ingave no proof of what she said.
If it's difficult to understand what Spencer said do this:
1. Get any of her teachings
2. Read and analyse what is in there properly
3. Compare that to what any of devil's club members have to say (Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Rondney Howard Brown, Osteen and the like)
4. Your conclusion will be the same, she is a rank heretic.
@@skokenos Finally, someone not following the crowds with pitch forks and seeing through the smoke and mirrors. People would be amazed how much they would learn by simply using 2% of their brain.
Drikus Diamond Isn’t that his job since he’s the one calling her a heretic? I’m not agreeing or disagreeing, but if you’re going to go through the trouble to make a video calling someone out, then at least give maybe one quote from that said individual to back up your claim.
Sam Kokenos So in your world, Jesus would have been a prostitute and a winebibber? She’s simply guilty by association? I just can’t go along with that line of thinking.
Whatever happened to, “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity.” ???
I get that you like the old hymns. I love the old hymns too... but I resonate with them even more when they are in a musical format that draws me in, rather than one makes me fall asleep.
Kari Jobe may have gone to Oral Roberts University, but she has written some solidly biblical songs that have brought me to my knees over and over again in worship of the One True God. Eg. Revelation Song, Forever, Find You On My Knees, What Love Is This...
As I agree with you but did you mean her songs brought you on knees?
I am a worshipper but I don't think I want my voice to put people on their knees if not the work of God, then I am scared.
Also her collaboration with Elevation (The Blessing) is straight up scripture
slibertas1996 the blessing is one of my new favorites by her!
@@slibertas1996 Actually, that is a rip off of an older Anglican prayer (Yes, the first verse is from the Torah, where God mentions how Aaron is to bless the people of Israel (the Church hasn't replaced Israel) -- but that is all there is to it). Please note that quoting a part of scripture doesn't necessarily mean that passage applies to you. The Bible talks of someone else (yes, that person, not one with a forked tail and horns, but someone who masquerades as an 'angel of light') who also quoted the scripture, and the argument sounded reasonable, but the quoting was out of context!
Please at least consider what I have to say.
--> The constant repetitions, Lights+Sound effects and theatrics are meant to draw one into a trance-like state. I live in India and see these being done all the time at pagan places of worship. These techniques are designed to create an experience that lets your doctrinal guard down. Compare that to the part when the Bible instructs us to "be sober, be vigilant...". Almost every charismatic place of worship follows these worldly techniques and unfortunately, many Bible based churches seem to be following suit.
--> The song really doesn't mention God, in the sense that, it does not worship Him. In fact, it doesn't mention anything about praising Him, neither does it talk about the sacrifice done on the cross for a sinner like me, nor does it encourage one to walk in His ways as a believer treads the narrow and strait path. In fact, most of these songs (including the Blessing) DON'T EVEN MENTION THE NAME OF JESUS!!!
Does that sound like a Christian song to you (when compared to those with depth, like "It is well with my Soul", "Amazing Grace", and many others)? I would say no! It is a feel-good song, that is directed to make the audience glorify themselves. No wonder, Furtick was one of the songwriters. He injects himself into scripture in almost all his sermons.
Honestly, I take no pleasure in criticizing Kari, I do recognize the skill and talent that she has. It is simply that all the skill and talent of the world is of no use unless the emphasis is on the message of the Gospel (or) Praise to the LORD. I am still waiting to see a praiseworthy Hymn to surface in our generation, I am sure there are a few good ones out there, but they are largely overshadowed by the pomp, show and hype of these shallow ones.
Yep. So many of her songs are literally based on specific verses from Scripture
You can’t assume she believes the same thing in the same way just because she attended the same university.
Just stop this nonsense and start preaching the gospel. You actually haven't said anything
It is true..she ask to buy his extra special tickets after few conversations..even she knew I was in financial problems...I am so happy stoping wowrship the worshippers and back to the True Gospel...brrr..I hope you will see it afterwhile ...
You are talking none sense. Are you really a Pastor?
That dude's probably high.
When God says “touch not My anointed...” He meant it. i pray that you repent of your sin and receive God’s forgiveness for your pharisee-like character and nature.
Good morning!!! That's taking scripture out of context. It refers to physical harm of a prophet. For example in the book of Samuel when King David had the oppurtunity to kill King Saul and he stated that he will not touch God's annointed. You can call people out if they are in the wrong. And all of us have an annointing if you come into the gospel of Jesus Christ; repent and dedicate his whole life to him. Be Blessed :-)
Bridgett Allen You yourself just stated that a person can call someone out that’s in the wrong, yet the video never actually addresses any “wrongdoing.” It consistently uses generalities and vagueness and does not actually prove or say anything at all. Corinthians tells us that if we have not love, we are nothing. Even if “not touching the anointed” is addressing physical harm, most believers understand that many truths are parallels for other behaviors and while this video is not a “physical” form of harm, it is destructive in nature. Again, my statement about pharisee-like behavior still stands. Nowhere else in scripture are we told of our nothingness apart from the absence of love. Repentance is necessary anytime a person’s heart is in the wrong place towards his brother.
When it says in the bible "don't touch mine anointed" it is referring to the old testament priests, not any person or preacher of today.
@@richardkozo5880 I understand that. this video is still, however, not productive, not edifying, and not building the Kingdom. and it definitely is not loving thy neighbor as thyself.
@AGAPE CHILD how about we both repent of our own sin, as all believers should do daily? instead of making videos like this that do not actually accomplish anything nor provide any substantial proof of claims.
I’ve read the comments and people are still whining,”who are you to judge?”. It’s not judging folks, it’s called discernment. We are commanded to test the spirits. We’ve become so enamored with emotion and feel goodisms (I know that is not a word) that we have abandoned sound doctrine. Be like the Bereans. Spencer, keep up the good work.
Tell them sis!!!
If you are a girl... 😂
Judging
So literally listening too Keri Jobe is the same as Listening to ACDC or ??? all day??? Isn't this what all Christians singers do then??? So tell me who I should listen to Christian sing that is?? Or which Christian singer do you listen too ??
😂 He called her pretty and talented and told us what university she went to, then spent the rest of the 5 minutes talking about Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, and the devil.
Am from Africa...i heard her song onces, and my spirit rejected it..
I didnt even know who she was...to me that is what happens if the Spirit of God in me is alerting me of a no go zone....until later i began to know about her connection with Bethel Ihop who heavily use the kundalini spirit to minister...now i see this today...for me am not surprised...
I listen to her music and every time I felt God's presence and anointing.
Romans 12:1-2 We renew our minds daily by cleansing them of the world’s “wisdom” and replacing it with true wisdom that comes from God. We worship Him with our renewed and cleansed minds, not with our emotions. Emotions are wonderful things, but unless they are shaped by a mind saturated in Truth, they can be destructive, out-of-control forces. Where the mind goes, the will follows, and so do the emotions. First Corinthians 2:16 tells us we have “the mind of Christ,” not the emotions of Christ.
Zurien van der Merwe Who is Kari Jobe? eternalevangelism.com/kari-jobe-another-nar-heretic/
No one cares about what you feel
I can't feel the holy spirit on the blessing song but the other songs I can the Garden cd . As Christians we need to pray for them not stone them with no proof. God is going to Judge us all. Get your heart right we have all sinned against God examine yourselves.
Yolanda Young since when does what you feel trump what scripture says?
Man when you attack someone’s idol they sure get upset.
Reading all the comments that state “I like her” is a red flag in itself. We should never elevate or like someone just because they are beautiful and can sing. That’s one of the main issues with contemporary “Christian” music is people worship the artist more than they worship Jesus. Yes maybe they are worshiping God but even if you’re worshipping an artist a teensy bit that is WICKED. It reminds me of being lost and having all my rap/rock idols that I like/loved even though I had never once met them.
I do not have to worry about idolizing a hymn, I can focus strictly on the praising and glorifying of Jesus Christ which is what we as Christians are suppose to be doing.
I learned this lesson the hard way when I first got saved with a “Christian” rap artist named Bryson Gray, I bought all his music and listened to him constantly. He would use the KJV and everything. Then one day he stated that “Jesus isn’t God.” I was so heartbroken and angry at him and God slapped me with the truth that this MAN was an idol in my life. If we get that upset about the truth of someone then maybe we should ask ourselves if we are idolizing that person.
So sad to see Christians pulling other Christians down, why not just lift up the name of Jesus.
You’re an idiot
Brian Lakins you’re sad. You apostate novice.
There's a lot of compromise and if we really focus on Jesus then we should point out the false prophets, and the false Jesus. God does not mean for all people to be rich deny yourself and take up your cross doesn't mean prosperity gospel. A holy God means judgement, love of God means truth. And this newage religion is compromising the church so much that there is a desperate need for apologetics. Ravi Zacharias, genesis apologetics, answers in genesis.
God bless.
You are failing to even point out why you're saying she is heretic. You just linked her to the famous heretics but you said nothing about her. Please let the girl spread the word of God even Jesus interacted with non believers to spread the gospel
If she is promoting Bethel she is at least ignorant.....and maybe worse......
I used to listen to her nearly 2 years ago and Bethel and Jesus Culture and Hillsong. Not now.
@@karenkalasy8251 Thank God that He has given you the discernment.
Thank God finally someone is exposing the deception
At least Spencer smith is exposing them.
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Have you met Kari? Have you heard her in person or even teach on video? She’s an anointed and talented vocalist, humble, an excellent teacher, do you have nothing better to do? Glad you know what’s in her heart and how she believes just because of where she graduated. Where did you graduate? Let’s judge you on your school background. Oh let’s go back to 3 hymns every Sunday, we can’t lift our hands either. No more worship music so that we can go to heaven! 🙄
How is she 'anointed'? If you are Born Again then you have the same and only anointing of the Holy Ghost as everyone.
Dennis King amen brother.
BlessedMom OfBoys Kari is amazing, she prayed for me once when I was a mess.
Anytime I hear a preacher or Christian talk about someone being anointed, or an anointing, relative to an outpouring of The Holy Spirit, I know they are a heretic. If a true Christian has any spirit, it’s The Holy Spirit... and every Christian is sealed by Him. If a person has any other spirit, well, it’s not God, but a deceiving spirit.
How about analyzing some of her lyrics? All you say is she went to a university that Copeland and Osteen also went to, and nothing more. By the high number of "dislikes", many other people feel the same way as I do.
I've analyzed some of her lyrics, and the first verse of her song "Forever" really opened my eyes :
The morning sun was dead
, the Savior of the world was fallen.
This verse is not talking about Jesus, but Lucifer, as he is the one often referred to as the morning sun and who, according to the Bible, fell from Heaven. Please, ask God for discernment, because the enemy works through the most unsuspecting people. God bless you =)
@@Tyler-Hoskins No, but Satan is a master deceiver and his best strategy is to mix truth with lies. Just look at the catholic church : a little bit of truth and a whole lot of deception. Kari Jobe has close ties with Pope Francis and gladly attends the events promoted by him : any politician, artist or preacher who is on the side of the Vatican is automatically working to bring about the Antichrist's system on earth ... these are the words of Jesus, not mine. Have a great day =)
@@Tyler-Hoskins There is a difference between pointing fingers at someone and exposing dangerous doctrines that lead people away from God. What do you think of these passages ?
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves
( Matthew 7:15 ).
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness ( 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ).
Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret ( Ephesians 5:11-12 ).
@@Tyler-Hoskins Not everything is heretical just because you don’t agree with it or like it."
You're right. It's when something is clearly unbiblical that needs to be exposed, independently of who said it. Pope Francis is saying that all paths lead to God and creating a One World religion, instead of claiming that Jesus is the only Way, the Truth and the Life : why does Kari Jobe even attends events that promote this false unity among religions ? It's not the words that matter : actions speak louder than sermons or worship songs. If you close your eyes and ears in front of your favourite pastor or singer, make excuse for them and just tolerate or shrug everything they say off, how are you able to differentiate between false teachers and those who are teaching the pure and unadulterated Word of God ? Be careful about defending false prophets like Furtick, who said that God "broke the Law for love" and that He "sent His Son in the likeness of a sinful man." Really ? Please, study the Bible on your own and don't trust every preacher, but test whether what he/she is teaching lines up 100% with the Scriptures.
@@Tyler-Hoskins “God sent his son in the likeness of sinful man”
Again... yes. And I don’t see what your problem with this is.
I've never met a christian who believed that Jesus is not sinless. Have you actually opened a Bible in your life ?
“God broke the law for love” um... yeah? He absolutely did! Many of these things went starkly against the laws of Moses."
Is God a sinner ? Please, read these words of Jesus and the apostles :
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven ( Matthew 5:17-19 ).
Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples : “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them ( Matthew 23:1-3 ).
If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love ( John 15:10 ).
Everyone who commits sin also breaks the law; sin is the breaking of law ( 1 John 3:4 ).
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments; and his commandments are not burdensome ( 1 John 5:3 ).
Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law ( Romans 3:31 ).
Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth ( 1 Corinthians 5:3 ).
As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead ( James 2:26 ).
I can post many more passages, but I think these are enough and don't support the claim that "the Law was broken or done away with at the cross", that's why it's better to truly know the Scriptures before listening to any pastor or preacher : if you're not familiar with the Bible, you'll be led astray by the first teacher who tickles ears and presents heresies as biblical, like Steven Furtick, Kari Jobe, Pope Francis and many others do all the time. So, please, test every doctrine or preacher and, if something doesn't match with the Scriptures, drop it. Have a great day!
I haven't notice any of the "prosperity gospel" in her music in the songs I've heard. If she starts, let me know.
This is absolutely wicked. You did not mention one heretical thing Kari has taught, said or sang about. All you mentioned was her affiliation with oral Roberts University.
He is trying to teach us to use our discernment and do your research
She preaches that Jesus went to Hell. th-cam.com/video/kO9QswQXEnI/w-d-xo.html
@R Ryan Jesus did go to Hell. Per my faith (Episcopalian), we have the Nicene Creed we say in services that says, Jesus Christ was crucified, died and was buried. He descended into Hell and on the third day he rose again and ascended into Heaven to be seated on the right hand of God the Father. This guy is one of those that is preaching that basically all notable pastors are heretics. One thing I can tell you is that Pope Francis is a true man of God.
Angst1966 In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place.
Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.
As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
I believe in my denomination when they refer to Jesus descending to Hell, they are talking about "Abraham's side" or Hades as you described.
Angst1966 She preaches that Jesus went to Hell. th-cam.com/video/kO9QswQXEnI/w-d-xo.html
Wow!!! I pray that God works on your heart. Judge not, my brother. Your job is not to judge others. Your job is to bring people to Christ. I question your motives, and your walk with God. You do not speak the truth. You do not speak life. You speak hatred.
Where is your proof stop saying she heretic she's heretic without proof.
I'm not judging her because i don't know here and never met her
@@TapManDancer what ever you dam legalist
All I see and hear from Kari Jobe is someone who adores God with all her might, she's filled with the Holy Spirit and shows compassion for others. Ive never heard, as yet, of her preach prosperity, she's continuously praising God and wants everyone to do the same.
She is extremely prosperous she has like a 50 million dollar house and millions dollar cars
@@LowkeyXxx so was Jobe, Moses, David, Abraham, Solomon etc... What's your point, it's not money that is evil it's where you place it in your life. God should be first over all.
It's better for you to stop being jealous of God's anointed people and start preaching the true gospel of Jesus. May the Holy Spirit enlighten your heart. Jesus loves you though. 🙏
I stopped listening to this man because I noticed he had a horrible habit of always pointing out others flaws and not actually speaking for the Lord. And this video is pretty baseless to be honest
@@mwapeg Yet here you are here posting. Enlightening people with FACTUAL background data so that gullible people don't fall under the spell of deception is a bad thing now? Is hateful? Exposing false teachers/teachings/beliefs among our own is bad now? This sounds very similar to the first four books I read in the new Testament. Well, anyone is able to start a free youtube channel and set this guy straight with facts, why not you?
@@Clickbaiters lmaoooooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@Sun flower I do read my Bible thank you for your suggestion 🤗
@Samuel Letner okay. I wasn't aware of that. I don't listen to her music. But that wasn't what my comment was about. I used to follow this man and watch all his videos. The point of my first comment was that I noticed he had a terrible habit of not actually preaching the gospel. My point was correction over condemnation. I personally felt like all he did was condemn without actually correcting and once i noticed myself doing the same, always getting ready to point out people's flaws and scream damnation at them instead simply preaching the gospel, i decided to stop watching his videos and I felt like a much different person.
Problem with us modern day Christians..."too judgemental"
“He that is spiritual judgeth all things.” Read your Bible you heathen.
@The Messenger precisely, I couldn’t have said it any better.
I share your point of view -- associating with Hillsong, Bethel, Furtick, and the likes of them is a clear red signal as to what Kari's doctrine represents -- watered down form of some arbitary religion. And this is reflected in much of her lyrics, should one look beyond her voice and talent (which is actually quite good). But seriously, you should have presented your opinion much better than this, rather than calling her a heretic without concrete reasoning! Please do continue your warning against such apostate preachers and songleaders (I tend not to use the word "worship" leader; worship is deeper than the staged performance and arbitary mumbo-jumbo that they utter onstage).
Agreed - Have similar opinion, but this speaker did not present sufficient evidence to backup the claim. He repeated his opinion multiple times. Appreciate you for posting the other reasoning to help backup his opinion.
yawn
I want to hear what she believes about salvation and her understanding of who and what the gospel of Christ is.
Listen to her songs. Listen to Holy Spirit. Ask Him what He thinks?
Any sources or references for your claims? Maybe video clips where she shows what you are claiming she is doing.
The fact that's so close to you because is embedded in your culture says it all. In it being nice is more important than doing what's right.
She has practiced joining up with NAR false apostle/prophet Bill Johnson and others like him and leads people to believe in them and their words above GOD and His WORD, through her very wrong example. She has made numerous statements that are unbiblical. She is deceived and deceiving as leading others into sin and error.
What’re u doin for the kingdom brotha?! Love your way but it looks to me like you’re getting off on putting people down. If you want to bring correction to the church, come with the full counsel of God and truth- not jokes and slander.
thebenjimusic Amen to that. Proverbs 13:3
That's the problem now days, at this time and age, there's no time for sugar coating, for time is short!!!
thebenjimusic Another emotional response from yet another Biblically undiscerning Christian. Ugh. No wonder Christianity in the West is in trouble.
I have never heard or seen her say anything doctrinally incorrect. She and her husband lead with authentic JOY from having received the gift of salvation by grace through faith. They call on people to turn from their sin and follow Christ. So saddened to see her be condemned for something that you’ve presented no evidence of her doing. Slanderous gossip is also a sin.
All I know is she had a spiritual awakening that she talked about. She said she heard that Jesus suffered and burned in hell which is false doctrine. She repented and asked God to give her the wisdom and understanding of what the verse meant. Jesus never did suffer or burn or even went to hell. He went to Abraham's bosom to free the prisoners.
I agree. If this guy just keeps rattling on coz she's from Oral Roberts, that's the most despicable untruth I've heard. Is it coz she's pretty? He keeps mentioning that too. Would she be more believable if she was fat, short, crooked teeth etc??? Pointing someone as a heretic is very serious if that's all you keep saying. Is this guy just trying to gain attention? I'm sorry....but her songs lead me to worship. And what I do after that is on me. No one can judge someone's personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Point out some truths, so we might be enlightened. I can also keep saying this guy is a fraud, but how would it be credible if I can't back it up with some evidence. C'mon, man!
yes. best to not listen to this person. just pray for them against the spirit of gossip
I'm not going to take a stand either way on thus one like I would Osteen, but it's true that you are not being specific. You can't just say "heretic" and have people agree with you unless you state what the heresy is.
He did state it. She is a wild Pentecostal and believes in the prosperity gospel. Actually watch the video next time before you make a judgment.
The Messenger exactly lol. They just lust after her in bewilderment.
Agree. Whether it's true or not, simply calling it out does not make it true.
That's just wrong. We all need to be on fire for God, and none of us is perfect!
Just be careful. The Lord warned us saying many will say Lord, Lord we did this and that and whatever in your Name. And then He will respond, go away into the fire, I never knew you
Kari Jobe has the Fire of God in her. She and Cody Carns proclaime Jesus in a powerful way and their music is blessing the nations. We should be praying for those that we may not see eye to eye with and asking God to search our own hearts, let's stop publically discrasing Christian's. God doesnt want us to be arguing and complaining about each other he wants us to be working together to do everything possible to help as many as possible to believe and recieve Jesus.
Sources man, sources! Same uni, does that indeed mean same "theology"? Add a snippet of her endorsing Osteen or the prosperity gospel in general. Without that I hear solely your opinion, not the support of they opinion.
You're kinda repetitive in this video, just saying.
Citing famous graduates from oral Roberts University isn’t something that I have to prove to you, is it? The stuff is easily accessible with a quick Google search.
I love how someone can say they have proof of something, but when one asks for the evidence, they respond with "go look for it yourself". After all. It was back and forth about Lauren Daigle. So here's my suggestion. Don't listen to another human to tell you the heart of another human. We can only see the outer heart. God knows the inner heart. Therefore, trust in Him.
@@spencersmith312 Yeah, no. The whole reason I watch videos is so that I don't need to become a journalist myself. If you find it too much of a hassle to put in a 5 second snippet, or even a quote, then what does this video bring, apart from your opinion? If I want opinions with no basis I will go on twitter, not youtube.
@@SojournerDidimus it's also your responsibility to do some research. This would be the same as only hearing from the word of God through preaching. Sometimes you have to look it up yourself
Many famous "Christian artist" believe in it
i'm not gonna lie, i love u brother this video sorta grieved my soul. i'm sure she doesn't care about any of that (the praise of man, what you stated at the beginning of the video etc etc); she just wants to love on the Lord and worship/praise Him and lead others to do so as well.
I am a Christian, have been for twice as long as you have been alive young man. Being aware of false teaching and doctrinal heresy is one thing, calling it out, being accusatory and still not knowing the person you are accusing is a judgment we are not called to make.
I have also been a lawyer in big international litigation for more than 30 years . You offered no evidence. You made insinuations without facts to support you assertion of Kari Jobe as the, worst possible woman". You like to hear yourself talk, you should do less talking and listen more.
Jerry Skinner That was exactly my point as well. They don’t want to hear it. You can call someone in heretic all day, but if you don’t back it up with specific personal statements from that individual, it just doesn’t carry any weight. I messaged him trying to tell him that, but it went nowhere.
So what worship songs can you sing?
Buddy, why pick a fight with God? Do you remember these verses?
Roman's 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Roman's 14:12,13
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
James 4:11,12
Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
AMEN
Amen!
IF this person went to a university where some of the graduates have a distorted view of the Gospel-> THEN this person has a distorted view of the Gospel.
This is not sound logic.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I knew Kari Jobe in her early days when I sang praise & worship with her at Gateway Church in Southlake, TX in the mid 2000s. In speaking with her offline and away from the stage, she expressed interest in "making it big" in the Christian music world and that she wanted to be famous. She was also very judgemental and critical of people's appearance and when I made the decision to no longer attend Gateway Church, she told me that she would NEVER sing with me again and that she "could not walk with me"... Whatever that means. Take away the fame and the wealth and she would not appear to be serving God - she serves one person, herself.
I’m not saying your testimony of her personal behavior at the time is not true because only you Shaun and the Lord Jesus know the truth. However, I must point out there’s a distinction between one having questionable personal behavior vs. holding extreme doctrinal positions as implied in the video. I think all Christians, still having a sin nature, sadly can walk in unholy behavior from time to time. But, to state Kari Jobe is a heretic is a stretch as Spencer did not present evidence and links to her literally “preaching heresy”. The brother does not know her personally and thus his video smacks of opportunism and the sin of presumption at her expense. You present an account of questionable personal behavior concerning Miss Jobe but not doctrinal issues held.
Let us make this abundantly clear.
Also, I want to make clear I am no apologist for anyones personal behavior, including Jobe’s. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. My question to you brother is are you praying for her to have a changed heart and to reconcile to Lord Jesus Christ and then to others? I’m sorry to what you experienced but we still must forgive and lift our brother or sister up in pray. Not saying you aren’t but I got to state it.
Never forget Kari Jobe like the rest of us has to stand before the Lord to give an account for her life. She will and let’s pray, like us, she will repent now and have less wood, hay, stubble to burn than in that Day.🤔
Blessings🙏🏻
@@taylorforrestmusic what do you mean by when you say major giveaways of kundalini I know about kundalini but the way you said what are you telling us thanks
@@spooderdoggy Well stated!!!
Thank you for being bold about this stuff. I submit a correction however: Angel of light is 2 Corinthians 11:14 rather that 2 Corinthians 9. (Not nitpicking)...
You never say how you determine she is a heretic. Sounds to me like you are passing judgment.
The Christian must “judge” or discern between good and evil (Hebrews 5:14)! We must make spiritual evaluations of the words and behavior of others, not to find fault, but to effectively guard our hearts against error and sin (1 Corinthians 2:14-15; Proverbs 4:23). Jesus warns His disciples "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15-16). This admonition is given not only with regard to “false prophets” but also concerning anyone who comes in the name of Christ but who, by his actions, denies Christ (Titus 1:16; cf. Matthew 3:8).
Do your research and use your discernment.
She preaches that Jesus went to Hell. th-cam.com/video/kO9QswQXEnI/w-d-xo.html
In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place.
Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.
As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
Hey man big fan here. But I don’t think just because someone went to oru it means they ae heretics
If you do your research, you will find that she preaches Word of Faith and Prosperity Heresy. They preach a different Jesus that does not save.
Problems with this video: I still don't know who Kari Jobe is or what she looks like, or anything she's said or done.
Exactly which of her songs are promoting the Prosperity Gospel
Hey so I'm 4 minutes 57 seconds in you claimed that this girl is a heretic but you give no actual words that she says that make her a heretic.get it together. If you're going to make claims like this you need to show her words prove that she is a heretic. Because so far all I've heard is Gossip from you. maybe you're the heretic accusing someone else of being a heretic.
@Rachel Smith That's literally the exact opposite of what he said. Stop speaking lies
No quotes from Kari Job about her being a prosperity teacher. And just because she went to ORU does NOT mean that she like Copland or Osteen. A very poor job of character assassination
I think what he’s trying to say guys is that, sometimes it’s hard to put a finger on it and explain it but, the Holy Spirit with discernment, can reveal the truth to some and not others.
I agree with some of this video but for some reason, when I first heard her music, I felt the same way about her.
I’m aware of this as in her one song FOREVER she says Jesus went to hell and did battle with Satan to win our salvation .
She does not mean that literally.
Motivation Apex her Kingdom Now theology does. Why would you sing something g about the death of Christ that is not true. That is absurd. She sang a lie
@@Scottiepups You have interpret the lyrics, you can't just read it at face value? It's called imagery, and it is super common in both songwriting and the bible. (Btw she don't even sing that in "Forever".)
You can enter heaven with bad theology. I was worshipping to a Kari Job song called 'We Cry Out'. My housekeeper came into the room and I didn't hear her. When I turned around, she looked at me with my hands held high worshipping the Lord. She said with tears in her eyes, "There is a God!" because she knew me before I was saved. My housekeeper came to faith that day. The bible doesn't say that you will know my disciples' by how much they are divided against one another. This is what the bible says, John 13:35 "By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." Here is the question at hand? Are you following John 13:35? Or are you following Revelation 12:10
AMP Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom (dominion, reign) of our God, and the authority of His Christ have come; for the accuser of our [believing] brothers and sisters has been thrown down [at last], he who accuses them and keeps bringing charges [of sinful behavior] against them before our God day and night. ARE YOU BEING LOVING OR ACCUSING? That is a question you must answer...
Homie, come on. I'm scared for you with these idle words. You claim she's the worst of the worst when it comes to heretics because she:
1. Went to Oral Roberts University.
2. Is associated with the charismatic crowd (as every worship musician tends to be).
You didn't use any statements from her lips or song lyrics to back up your claim. Her lyrics are Biblically solid and there are no heretical statements from her lips as far as I know (and I've been following her for a while).
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, she may be off on some non-essentials, but she's not off on the essentials or at least not publically expressing it, so your words are idle.
If you really feel that person leads wrong... Prayfully Submit your heart and mind to Lord with spirit. For that person ..... N that that person will turn out right in Jesus... Instead of exploring publicly bad about others. It's so shameful,dirty before Christ
I don’t even know how I came across this or why I watched more than 30 sec. however, what is your point of this video? Site your source and point to her actions that back up this slander? You don’t know her personally and this isn’t edifying at all it sows discord. But you do you.
You are a worldly conformist.
NameLess That is the only thing this „missionary“ does...slandering people, attacking children of God, because he doesn‘t understand the bible or just doesn‘t like their style...!
Read ur bible
NameLess
Listen again and pray to understand the truth.
I am amazed at the time and energy you invested in tearing another individual down who has been an incredible source of blessing to millions of people. Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, o man, whosoever thou art that judgest:.....
not all "blessings" are from God himself..
@Warren Goss
Exactly.
False converts look out for "feeling good", not truth.
Does Jesus ever write anyone off?
Read Mathew 12 : 14
Yes. It is explained in Romans chapter 1.
Bro. Is this all you do?? Like I'm just asking?
That is precious work.
Why do you not get that?
It’s funny how he says that Satan is working through people behind podiums and stuff..... but I have feeling he is that person! He only goes after big names and big bands, but why? Who knows
Fernandez Sucre amen! He has gone after Lauren Daigle & now Kari Jobe! I’ve never seen him go after other worship artist such as Natalie Grant, Mandisa, for King and country, MercyMe, casting crowns just to name a few!
He is right people... not only her but Hillsong and many many others. Y'all should look it up! And he is not judging... Jesus says to point out the wrong! That's what he is doing so y'all stop with "who are you to judge"
Point out the wrong--- with verifiable proof, please. Otherwise, it's still hearsay.
Hmmm....don’t remember Jesus asking us to judge? 🤔
@Days of Noah I’m a new Christian. Sorry for the confusion ❤️
@Days of Noah we are blessed, Jesus is king ❤️😁 all the best, brother
@Days of Noah Amen to that 😁
Thank you for this!! Glory to God!
Glory to God? Any real proof she's a heretic?
Do you have proof of what you are saying?
You all missed what he said. She is a graduate of Oral Roberts University. But go check for yourself what she teaches. You can say *o Spencer didn't provide any evidence* but why speculate? Go check for yourself and see
Steven,listen to hillsong united,when i lost my heart to you. I was raised in church,and im saved,but ive back slidden and have been drinking. I passed out at a pool hall and was woke up by bartender,she said i had to go. So i got up and went to my car. I was beyond drunk. I knew i couldnt get home;i pulled my phone out and played that song. After listening,i asked the Lord,please get me home. Please put your angel by my side and let me get home safely. I started my car and drove home without incident. In my foolishness,He heard my cry. You cant convince me God doesent move through their music.
I know Kari & Cody & I pray blessings upon you, that your eyes be open….they both LOVE & SERVE JESUS/Yeshua Messiah!!
And, public tearing down is never a good look!!
They will know us by our love👑💖🔥
I myself am a Christian. I know that I am far from the shining example of what a Christian should be. However, one thing I will say about myself is that I will not knock on whatever a person believes in. Every religion is different. Every religion also has its subgroups with different beliefs. I don’t dig into any of it bc to me almost all Christianity is the same as long as you believe Jesus died for your sins and is your savior and you don’t wish or do ill toward anyone. “Love thy neighbor as you would yourself” is a red letter scripture often forgotten. You can love your neighbor while still holding onto your beliefs and keeping yourself from calling them the devil. I don’t like hypocrisy. Bc what you believe is the right way is the wrong way for someone else no matter what. Ppl choose to be so divisive and judgmental. Just live and let live.
I didn't even watch the whole video, I love Jesus and Kari is my favorite worship leader. I'm well aware of her background... this is ridiculous. 🤦♀️
Who is Kari Jobe? eternalevangelism.com/kari-jobe-another-nar-heretic/
The last time I saw this guy, it was when he's calling Lauren dangle a heretic. Becareful of this guy, destroying someone's image just because they have the same background as of with the heretics, he only see and speaks HATE. I am a Christian and I bet if I became famous I would be included in his videos 😂
@@tonysomoza4848 hahahah, pray those who persecute you, bless your enemies ..... I pray this dude find peace ❤❤❤
Let me ask you something brother... How can one "feed the poor" if you are poor or struggling financially yourself ???? Every Christian who is financially stable is not a wolf on sheep's clothing.
What are you taking about?
@@spencersmith312 you speak in your videos about "the prosperity gospel" as if being financially stable is a bad thing. And I was stating by that logic, that you must not believe in feeding the poor because feeding the poor would require money/prosperity, which you seem to think is bad or "heretic" thing.
Jonathan Haslon Please don’t accuse me of being against being financially stable and fiscally responsible because I oppose A heretical doctrine called the “prosperity gospel.” That’s lunacy.
@@spencersmith312 So how does one feed the poor with just mediocre financials ? I'm not asking this question in a condescending way btw I really want to know your opinion on the matter. If being a rich Christian makes you a "heretic" what other way is it to feed the poor ?
One of my good friends at church is an ORU grad. He does not follow the Prosperity Gospel. Just because she went to ORU doesn't mean she believes what the school teaches.
I need more. This was shallow.
An attack on the scepter of worship
This man speaks the truth about her
How do you know that? Have you seen her, heard her say anything to back that up? If you have, please share so we misled ones can be enlightened.
I'm disappointed that she and Cody are involved with the likes of Copeland, Osteen and Furtick. I used to be in the Prosperity Gospel. I went to Lakewood in the early '80's. I'm so glad that God opened my eyes.
Kari Jobe attended ORU; she didn’t graduate. I am actually an alumnus. An education from ORU doesn’t PROVE you believe in the prosperity gospel. No one receives a prosperity gospel degree. There are many of us that don’t subscribe to it.
Kenneth Copeland and Joel Osteen have nothing to do with this.
You sound ridiculous and hateful.
Great job marketing your book though!
Why worry or try to judge other people? Focus on what is important for your life.
Test every spirit. Thats Biblical.
The problem is people don’t know the Scriptures well enough to discern truth from error or be able to try the spirits correctly.
Question, let’s just say you are correct? Have you approached them either in person, call any of them or written any of them, or tried any other communications with them? Have you told them their faults as you see it, have you told them that you think the way they interpret the Word of God is in error? Have you afforded them them that as you see it, they need to turn from their ways?
You know I am not calling you out, okay yes I am calling you out. Shouldn’t our mission to be is to give them a chance to go see the light as you do? When you do that then maybe just maybe you saved them from hell fire. Now if your mission wasn’t to give them an opportunity to change their ways then is it gossip? Or are you warning all about them?
For me it would be a good idea to get both sides. It’s like when I see a video of someone coming against somebody or some group I only get to see it or see the the side of one(s) presenting their view, and a lot of times they put a bunch of edited clips that supports what these people are saying. Or in this case verbally you want people to believe what you are saying. Let me finish with a good thought, you have a good speaking voice God has given you, just maybe good for a preaching ministry, who knows, well God knows. Remember we are to always test the spirits when someone is singing or preaching also this includes your videos. Hey you know let’s just say you are correct, we are to even test what you are saying is biblical. Now there are people that weigh every word of a singer and preacher say, that’s ok. But I don’t go into a service waiting for someone to say something wrong. Praying and asking the Holy Spirit for discernment is the way I go. I must assume there are people that see your video (s) that may not know Jesus or there are people that may not read the Bible, therefore they are just getting one side.
let him who is without sin cast the first stone
Thank you.
Here is something that should be clear throughout the history of the Christian church, there have been errors regarding doctrines, but God weighs hearts and if it needs to be corrected it is necessary to let God do what he has to do with His person. If his songs minister to many despite some doctrinal error then there are things that God does that we will NEVER understand. Focus better on the gospel and remember that we do not have to concern ourselves with what is of your personal life with God.
(John 21:22)
God sees what he does with each one of us
Your father work is to go about judging people, like your own life is perfect Mumu,we all have flaws,we are all corrupt in these world, before you cast your stone, check yourself mumu
Wayne Clark it’s not necessarily to judge them but to bring them into conviction and hold them accountable..
Stop judging him for judging.
At the end of it all watch out that you won't be obliged to apologize to her as you did to Lauren Daigle. This fact of wanting to us to hate everyone is not good and after all they have blessed us because their career has contributed something great in our seasons we went through!!!!!
Maybe you should go actually watch my apology video before you stick your foot in your mouth anymore...🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The Lord says“Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.”
Matthew 7:1-2 Love is the heart of The our Abba Father, amen. All we say must be for God’s glory, and He gave judgement authority to Jesus Christ only. Lets just be obedient to the Word of Jesus Christ, our King and Saviour, who looks at our hearts. Hallelujah
She is heavily associated with James Robinson who also highly promotes Beth Moore.
Judge knot , least ye be judged. ⚘
Blessings to all.. ⚘
She worships in spirit and in truth.
I know this is hard for fundies to believe, but just because you go to a school doesn't mean you align exactly with the organization in all beliefs. I didn't hear a thing you said that proves your claim, just a rant.
She preaches that Jesus went to Hell. th-cam.com/video/kO9QswQXEnI/w-d-xo.html
In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent of sheol is hades, which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between hades and the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades, then, is a temporary place.
Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.
As Jesus neared death, He said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to hades (the place of the dead). Jesus did not go to “hell” or the suffering side of hades; He went to “Abraham’s side” or the blessed side of hades. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
These comments against brother Smith are coming from people who lack discernment. When I was a new Christian many years ago, Kari had me fooled too. Her live version of the Revelation Song stirs up emotion, but it's only emotion. You have to go further than the music, find out what these people really believe in and you'll see most the time it's not biblical. Do not be deceived by these Hillsong heritics.
You failed to provide examples..would be helpful...samples?
They preach that Jesus went to Hell. th-cam.com/video/kO9QswQXEnI/w-d-xo.html
Jesus did go to hell
Kari Jobe is not a heretic. Can’t believe this would even be a thing. She brings in the presence of God with each and every song. She is one of Gods anointed and chosen. You should repent sir.
Thank you Father for your Love and Your Mercy! Lord I pray for Spencer Smith that his eyes of understanding are enlightened and that you show him your ways! He is a pure instrument of the devil! Plain and simple!
Deuteronomy 8:18 But remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your ancestors, as it is today.
I’m big into sound doctrine. BIG! But Kari Jobe???
Jesus loves you as you are, pursue bringing people to the Kingdom.
Mr Smith, all of these negative comments from people, just proves that the STRONG DELUSION, isssssss here!!!! Amen brother, amen!! DISCERNMENT folks DISCERNMENT!!
Thanks for the comment brethren.
She was blessed from the Lord
Okay, dude. Number one, you can't call her a rank heretic if her music is pretty anointed. Through every song I hear from Kari, there is something so wonderful, not only in her voice but also in the words that are being spoken through those songs. Two, everything you said in this video was completely none of YOUR or OUR business. She's entitled to believe what she wants to believe but I think that's pretty clear. Three, you making this video was very unChristlike. You're a missionary, not someone entitled to expose someone else ESPECIALLY if they're servants of the Lord. Do some correct research, shut up, and grow up. Must be embarrassing being called out by a 16 y/o.
You are wrong on all points. "Through every song I hear from Kari, there is something so wonderful, not only in her voice but also in the words that are being spoken through those songs." Ok, what is this "something so wonderful" to which you refer? Is she singing biblical doctrine, or does she simply sound good and make you feel good? There's a big difference. Correct doctrine will lead you to Christ and into maturity as a believer, while music that does nothing but make you "feel good" will lead you down a rabbit hole even further from Christ. Therefore, what Spencer says in this video IS the business of every believer. Read 1 Corinthians 5. Christians ARE to judge each other in the church - it's called accountability. And before you quote "Do not judge" at me, research what Jesus was actually referring to in Matthew 7:1. He's saying we are not to presume to judge a person's heart or their motives, because only God knows what is in a person's heart and mind. But we ARE to judge people by their fruit (Matthew 7:15-20), and that is what Spencer is doing here. Kari can believe whatever she wants, and when she falls short of biblical teaching, Christians can call her out on it and warn each other to avoid her music. This isn't cancel culture, it's the leaven Paul warned us about in Galatians 5:9. So no, Spencer making this video is the opposite of unChristlike. Jesus himself called out the Pharisees and false teachers of his day, and he warned his followers to stay away from them (Matthew 16:6). And he warned us to identify and avoid them in the church. Every Christian is not just "entitled" as you say, but more than that, we are commanded to expose false teaching whether it's from a preacher or a singer in the church.
Basically, everything you said in your comment is wrong, and it is YOU who need to sit down, humble yourself, and learn the truth. Try and do so before commenting.
Doctrine Matters!!!