Why Everything is META (feat. South Park & Deadpool) - Wisecrack Edition
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Smart movies have been breaking the proverbial “fourth wall” since the beginning of film history. But recently, it seems like you can’t watch a single movie without seeing a blatant meta reference. Come learn how the fourth wall got completely demolished, and why meta-ness is more popular than ever.
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T H I S!
th-cam.com/video/KqXJmE45Ngw/w-d-xo.html 2:15
Hey, I would count on this channel to analyze cryptocurrency one way or another once it catches up to us..
Kevin Nguyen That would be Meta! 🤯
Isn't that the topic of their everyday morning meeting?
Being meta and breaking the fourth was fun, since it was breaking the mold. But now it has become the mold.
hit the nail on the head
It was always the mold.
That's just it though, it was never NOT the mold. Soon we'll be making meta jokes about meta jokes that were also about Meta Jokes and claiming it as the new wave of humor. If we're not already doing so already. Meme culture is progressing at such an incredible pace.
This is why john wick blew up so big. It is a simple story done well with no hidden self reflection.
W O K E
Wisecrack should analyse and deconstruct wisecrack
Proponents of existentialism and nihilism, with a borderline pretentious love of cinema and literature.
Yes, all very good, but that's not meta... is it?
@@DustinMTaylor If they were to use a screenshot of this comment as part of a cinematic montage of various criticisms leveled at them in comment sections transforming into a verbal dino-megazord and Jared battled it with his Wizard Staff of Knowledge, that might be meta. Maybe.
_If Realism called it like it saw it, Metafiction simply called it as it saw itself seeing itself see it._
*~ David Foster Wallace*
2deep4me, m80...
No, pos ahora si que my mind was blown...
wut
Nice to here from you again.
You forgot Surfs Up
The greatest Meta is Avatar: the last air Bender’s episode in book 3 where they watch a funny play about themselves in the fire nation.
Nah the greatest meta is from Oceans 12, where Julia Roberts plays a character who is critical to the plot due to her having a striking resemblance to the real world actress Julia Roberts.
Nah, The Greatest Meta was Dark Helmet and Colonel Sanders watching the videocassette of "Spaceballs: The Movie"
Dark Helmet: What the hell am I looking at? When does THIS happen in the movie?
Sanders: Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now.
If you aren't aware of the subtle 4th wall break in Alien, check out Folding Ideas' "Alien's Great 4th Wall Break" (th-cam.com/video/XmOateL3ohI/w-d-xo.html)
I can't help but wonder if that episode was inspired by "Batman Beyond". There's an episode in "Batman Beyond" where Bruce Wayne and Terry McGinnis go watch a musical play about Batman. Bruce Wayne gets pissed and then leaves the play before it's finished because of how silly it was.
@@roetheboat1 how is that meta?
My biggest problem with meta content as a form of comedy is that it brings too much attention to the suspension of disbelief and starts to make media less immersive and fun.
Content like Deadpool, South Park, and even Rick and Morty use their "metaness" as a gimmick of sorts. Their meta qualities aren't just a little "clever nod" to the audience, but a consistent storytelling element.
In contrast, things like the clip of Hawkeye saying "this plot is stupid, it doesn't make sense" don't really make sense in and of themselves. We're already suspending our disbelief to watch a movie about superheroes, so why are killer robots ridiculous enough to point out?
Deadpool works because nothing in the franchise is safe. Everything from the superhero landing to the very IDEA of superheroes is made fun of, and it's more like a parody. You can still suspend your disbelief because the movie doesn't even take itself seriously, so why should you? Little meta references, though, take you out of the movie and make you reflect on all the other dumb nonsensical things that they DIDN'T point out. Small meta moments in a movie that otherwise takes itself seriously force you to recognize the absurdity of the moment while simultaneously suspending your disbelief for the rest, which doesn't work nearly as well.
Now don't get me wrong, meta references are funny in the moment. I really enjoy meta content and don't think there's anything wrong with a little fourth wall nod. But when it becomes a staple of the media industry, you start to realize how "dumb" you are for watching absurd things, and it makes unrealistic media way less fun in my opinion.
Theres a right way to do meta and a wrong way to do it, I've also noticed how seemingly lazy its become as a gimmick for properties like "Rick and Morty" and various films. It's too bad that it's become mainstream because when done well it can be really introspective in a myriad of different ways, from the process of creating media to consuming it.
@@lonelychameleon3595 I agree with everything you said; it's a great point.
Rick and Morty is a really good example honestly. In my comment I said it worked, which it does as far as suspension of disbelief goes, but you're right that it's lazy.
People eat up meta content and it's always really profitable, so why bother writing better scenes or pushing the boundaries on existing media when you can just be like "haha our writing is so terrible and we knowww it is, isn't that funny??? Buy Pickle Rick merch!"
(Sidenote Pickle Rick is a really weird episode because it's got a lot of fantastic narrative potential, but that gets glossed over because there's such a focus on being self-aware and somewhat "edgy". I actually quite like the episode, but it's still one of the worst from the show as a whole because it's overly gimmicky)
I totally agree with your main point, but I disagree with the example of Hawkeye, well at least to an extent. The purpose of that speech was to help calm Scarlett Witch and inspire her to become an avenger. I think the meta in that scene also served a purpose within the context of the story.
That's a fair point.
I used that example since it was in the actual video, but I did use it as a generalization just to compare "types" of meta. You're definitely right that "metaness" can serve a narrative purpose in some cases!
A weird meta moment that really took me out of a story was in the animated Spider-Man series from the 1990’s and how it ended. Spider-Man meets Stan Lee and then it ends. Like I know it’s a silly kids cartoon and stuff but when they introduced the man who writes the stories it made me mad. Mainly because Spidey was all like “it’s nice to meet you Stan” when his actual reaction should have been “wait a minute you’re the one who has made my life this living hell?! Write me a happier story!”
I’m probably more upset about the fact that we never got to find out what happened to MJ because she was trapped in some alternate dimension. But to end the series with a meta reference to Stan Lee just seemed out of place and I was upset they ended it that way.
the worst is being meta in real life: by seeing where some conversations eventually end...and therefore spoiling those conversations by simply going straight to the point.
Imo abed from community has an amazing meta arc, him kind of being "aware" of them existing within a sitcom allows him and the show to explore, praise, and critizise different tropes and stereotype of both it's own and other genres in a very interesting way. Since he's not directly aware of the cameras in his face but rather sees everything through his own lense of sitcom reality it allows him to have a constant meta subplot going, without it having to be the main focus all the time
I love the idea that early movies, made their own "React..." videos, take that Fine Bros
That’s why I unsubscribed them a couple years ago.
@@ironfox4990 yeah I unsubbed around that time as well
The whole "how do i get out of this box" bit at the end wouldn't work for me seeing how i have youtube in dark mode and the segment was not.
I would love to see a philosophy of A Series of Unfortunate Events video that touches on the topic, "All adults are idiots".
Jon Creech
If all adults are idiots, then what are kids and teens?
@@Bell_Matt Your question is very easy to answer. Kids are idiots with creativity. Teens are idiots with disgust to whatever crappy status quo is around them. And adults are idiots and nothing more than that.
Respect your elders young whippersnapper!
You now it's comedicly exaggerated, right. The whole series is kinda of a meta narrative on itself and other YA fiction.
It’s just a power fantasy for kids who wanna feel smarter than adults. Nothing too deep about that, that’s just childhood.
Don't try to get out of the Box as that is impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth. There is no Box.
WHEN people wanted to be LOONEY TUNES the MORDERN META WAS BORN!!!!
Deadpool is just DAFFY😅😅😅
Like sarcasm and irony, meta can be very amusing, _when used correctly and done right_ . Likewise, it can be stupid when use inappropriately or done in a lazy way. Unfortunately too many movies do it because they're too lazy to write better.
I believe life has become a parody of itself it feels like.
Example the shows on gta 5 and 4 where suppose to be parody but now it's like thats your life now deal with the INSANITY
Soooorry,being in GTA universe was my idea.I thought it would be fun,But this V.R. verison is a mudderF**ker. You know how many nice rides I've had exploded by car bombs? Rental car places won't even let me in front door.Getting to work is Nutz,and I'm just going say it.If you can't handle the heat get out of the Looney bin.Actually,really get out of my world.Like now, later 😜
@@MOODKILLER9 dude i feel ya there i tried to animate with the fucking sims it came out so bad i quite TH-cam
@@NPC_5120 Dude! Help me I put sum v.r. goggles on at the Mall,next thing I'm doing a black mirror vibe game! YIKES! The worst part is it's like Roy( Rick& Morty)/GTA and my feeling ex is in her as the main boss.Her main attack is calling up her mother and both of them nagging me to death!!! HELP ME!! HAHAHAHA 😜 ANYHOO like new joker movie all it takes is a little push.But,I'm all ready nutting futz so there's that.laterz🤪
@@MOODKILLER9 you kinda remind me of me lol
South Park actually ran into this issue politically. They have always tried to paint the left and right in a very ridiculous manner and make you think "How do people think like this". The issue they have now is that they actually do.
In my opinion, one of the best meta works of all time is Grant Morrison's Animal Man run. What makes it so special is that it isn't pointing out artifice and tropes as comedy, but paints the characters' realisation of the fiction they inhabit as a sort of cosmic horror.
“So you don’t have to”
When TH-cam gets Meta. MetaTH-cam
Im glad someone made this comment.
I was about to say the same thing.
A better example of TH-cam getting meta are those who actively push against "authenticity" to present a clearly theatrical and carefully staged performance, because "authenticity" is the real artifice of TH-cam.
TH-cam is a medium that is inherently aware of the 4th wall and actively seeks to destroy it to speak directly with viewers. Ironically I think that drawing the viewers attention to the fact that they are on a website, or making fun of calls to action (like, comment, subscribe!), is not meta because of what the medium is.
Re-establishing the 4th wall might be the new meta.
*Metube
10 things you always did the right way.
Great video! I also think that this discussion could have been given the spotlight to video games as well. Games like Undertale, Doki doki literature club, Superhot, the Mother series, and pony island definitely delve into these themes. I’m not familiar with older classics that have consistent meta moments though. There is conservative reflexivity in some and definitely a lot of heavy critique of the genre itself in others.
I’d recommend the games above but a few are not for the faint of heart... they are very subversive and go hard on the topic lol
Keep up the good work!
Thanks wisecrack! I'm a sheep, and I don't know how to think for myself.
Have we reached peak META?
@Alfonso G: No I'm a sheep! Kaintchu reed nun?
Apparently not cuz you typed this
Do they really tell you HOW to think or do they more so tell you WHAT to think?
why so mad
"I know very well what I am doing is trite, but I shall do it anyways." Deadpool in an nutshell.
At this point, same thing applies to all of the MCU, and even applies to TH-cam channels like WiseCrack, CinemaSins, and other channels that started out great but have since lost their way
@@mon_nobi CinemaSins was never great. It was always cynical.
@Paul Kerton It was always cynical yes, but it used to be witty, whereas they’ve lost their bite. Before, they only pointed out and sinned for things like genre tropes and internal or external lapses of logic that were actually sin-able offenses that both good, bad, and average moves make, however lately their sins are extremely petty, lacking substance, lacking attention to details in the movie, and are increasingly devoid of any humor or entertainment value. For example, they’d previously sin movies for having overly long production logos but now they sin if a movie has any logo at all, which literally all movies do. They now even add sins for what in their commentary was a full-fledged compliment (a thing they used to even remove sins for). It’s no surprise also that the average length of their videos have gotten longer with the additions of these nonsense “sins”.
They first to admit that “we’re just being assholes”, but much like meta fiction, awareness of what you’re doing doesn’t excuse that you’re doing it.
@@mon_nobi I noticed the same as time went on and it fell off with me and I unsubscribed.
@@mon_nobi Because a one point any continued joke become serious(the meta becoming text), is kinda why caustic persona like, for example nostalgia critic ether drop away or becoming a joke because is hard to mantain the idea you are not serious for much time.
In marvel, I will said this "Ironic metaism" like I call it, exist more to add a level of engegability by saying "see, this is silly, dont worry".
"And seriously, how do I get out of this box?".. 😂🤣😄!!!
If humour is done right it’s always timeless. A good dad joke, funny pun, dark jokes, slapstick. It’s why movies like airplane, spaceballs, scary movie, etc all seem to stand the test of time (with some off colour jokes that don’t fly today here and there). We’ll always appreciate a good laugh.
Jared lowkey made this entire video just to make that "how do i get out of this box" joke at the end
WTF is lowkey? I hate Gen Z slang. The thermostat is set too low. Get off my lawn you damn kids.
@@96st206 The irony that you proved yourself that you are not lowkey. Can't tell if that was intended to be meta or not.
I love meta-fiction but, as you said, mostly when it's used to criticise the medium. Easy fourth wall-breaking Deadpool style is annoying as hell.
It does get annoying if the movie criticizes itself, but doesn’t change. I think all the meta stuff in media is going to get too repetitive. It really isn’t that Clever to make your show or movie meta when everyone is doing it. I think everyone is going to get super annoyed.
@@bluesolace9052 If anything, Deadpool isnt that fun because is meta but because it more zany than other movie who are ether too serious or too jokey, is more of a south park but for superheroes.
while things were basically formulaic, film in the 90s had a much more innocent and experimental quality to it. Today I can FEEL the Harrison Burgeon esque hits of dopamine per second with modern entertainment. I hate it. Long quiet establishing shots are a dying art. Haven forbid we have a stray thought during your movie.
Wisecrack is surprisingly great. The key factor in videos like this is the knowledge. Good research is easy to spot.
Also, Jared is great.
Shout out to Mel Brooks!!! @9:39
His best reference to movies was the search for Spaceballs the Movie in the library of films to help move the plot forward by finding the Princess in the desert.
I also loved that part of The Muppet Movie where the group was reunited simply by pulling out the script and turning to the page where they found them in the desert.
Without mentioning Brecht's alienation technique... Though he was influenced by cinema, he took it to a whole new level for the stage... I know that it's not cinema, but he redefined theatre with effects that are still used today. Just thought it was worth mentioning.
Keep up the good work, wisecrack!
Where is Thug Notes, your Call to Action just reminded me this is the same channel.
They should bring back Thug Notes. It's been over 4 years. If Greg Edwards is busy they could find a new thug.
I love the artists that paint them selves in their own paintings.
will you do a video on "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"?
The thing about Meta Narrative and 4th wall is something I like when is lampshaded or lean into, but not fully broken. Or when is completely obliterated. I don't really mind movies saying they are movies because that is just cheap, but for example that Age of Ultron scene lampshades the situation without fully breaking it and that is more personal and I find it more amusing. The other side is when the 4th wall is oblitherated and uses it to its advantage. My favourite 4th wall joke in TV has always been the carwash scene in Chowder, there the took everything to a whole new level. Another 4th wall break I love in videogames is the third act in DDLC, where the characters know they are in a game yes, but to move forward you don't have to do something in-game, but go all the way to your computer's files, completely away from the game proper.
Most meta jokes nowadays are simply that, simple jokes. But when they are taking advantage of the medium itself they are in is when it really lands.
Can you speak more on the meta humor in Community please??? Especially the episode where abed makes a movie about God, but the movie ends up being about him as the director becoming god.
How Stephen King wrote himself into his 7 parted masterpiece The Dark Tower is amazing! Usually these things are a writers way to say hi or just draw inspiration by going outside the narrated world, say something you couldn't fit into the mouths of the characters yet want into the story. But Dark Tower and what King does is another level shit, one can just be in awe of the man!
talking more about metawriting or metastorytelling more than metacinema
The meta sucks because it always ends with people trying avoid looking "uncool" by showing everyone else how much more aware they are. Just do what you want people and stop forcing yourself into depression because you wanted to one up someone else in the intelligence department, no one really cares.
Great example of modern meta media: DDLC
Meta Narratives, Remakes, Deconstructions and Contrarian art. I'm not necessarily sick of it, but it does seem to be saturated in the market over the last few years and this current form is starting to get very old and it does show an incredible lack of creativity.
I love Gintama. All the cheracters know they are in a story, but MC is so sarcastic and such a joker that you always have to wonder if he is doing something specifically because he knows he is entertaining people.
OMG why so much hate against 22 jump street? I thought their meta references were really funny and cleverly part of the plot
Their jokes are what's known in the film world as "lampshading". Lampshading is when the film or show calls out the implausibility of the plot to deflect criticism, like in 21 Jump Street when they make repeated references to Channing Tatum being too old for high school.
Lampshading can be funny, but it's often used to cover for sloppy writing.
@@jlotus100 there are those... But the jokes about "the office being a giant cube of ice", the "overbudget because of the expensive shoes you can't even see" and the whole "do exactly what you did in the first case and it will work" doesn't sound like lampshading, they are winks at the audience and their extended knowledge about the first movie, actors and how it works
@@jlotus100 Lampshading is fascinating to me. All of these world's are inherently absurd but films create this internal logic and people are really sensitive about them "making sense." It is kind of like cult logic.
@@kashiewm Or Sierra era moon logic.
Deadpool is a good film for that meta-commentary, as it absolutely makes fun of superhero cliches in a genre that had truly come into its own at that point and was absolutely worthy of criticism. Hell it is also has a really good meta-commentary on its own production when you learn about the movie's budget cuts and they used those cuts as an excuse to make jokes like the characters forgetting the duffel bag of weapons in the trunk of Dopinder's taxi cab.
Wisecrack one question, is more meta intended to feel more real or be more relatable?
I'd say more relatable, since the more meta you get, the further from reality into a meta version of reality you go.
One recent example of meta as social commentary is Rocko's Modern Life Static Cling. Being a special on an old cartoon about Rocko wanting to bring back his favorite show. What is really turns into is how we can love the past and adapt to change. It's wonderfully self aware in story and humor.
YOU SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THE EPISODE FROM community WHERE ABED GOES META
This was about movies, not TV shows. But community is awesome.
Lol which episode
Saw a bunch of your philosphy of- videos and now im hooked. Your vids are so interesting and great while high.
Ryan screaming about being trapped in a play destroyed me.
THANK YOU for mentioning Ingmar Bergman! He is so overlooked.
...And here I am, still waiting for more STAR TREK analysis.
Animated movies like Frozen and Into the Spider-verse use meta not only to get a laugh, but also to move the plot forward, and to coment about the tropes while subverting them.
I don't know about all yall but the reason I love meta is because I love metaphysical concepts like multiverses and existence outside of reality. Meta jokes are like that, but funny.
Lmfao GZA and RZA with Bill Murray 😂
You also have The Metamorphosis by Ovid and The Metamorphosis by Kafka ...
Ovids is called The MetamorphosEs, plural. It tells the story of multiple transformations
@@eliasapollo4131 You are correct ... thank you ... 👍👌✌🌎
please dont let anyone narrate your vids other than you. You have a good voice.
that hair though...
The Modern meta is lazy. I hope Hogaak gets banned. Wait, wrong video.
epiciownz I get that reference!
Still true
Ayyyy magic
Good news, it has been indeed banned :D
Thank god he has been
One of the first metas I remember is one of Bing Crosby and Bob Hope road pictures for Paramount. Their characters see a mountain (one used in logos) and the say something like there is a our bread and butter. Bugs Bunny asking the audience, "Is there a Doctor in the House?" Shadow of spectator rises up, "I'm a doctor." Bugs Bunny, "Nya What's up Doc?"
Soon we're gonna to see movies talking about joking about going Meta. It's gonna be like Meta-Meta, or Meta-ception, or breaking the fifth wall, or.... my head hurts
Post-meta
Too late. Behold, Deadpool, "4th wall break inside a 4th wall break... that's like 16 wall breaks," it was indeed the 16th wall break of the movie.
Is anybody else's favorite meta humor that found in Disney cartoons? Like many moments in Phineas and Ferb, or when Oscar Proud talked about how if he turns to the side he disappears, even the outtakes of cartoon Lizzie McGuire got meta sometimes.
"he's dead!? And I thought this was a kids movie!". - Riszo the rat.
Lol I remember that only now that you mentioned it. Haven't thought about that film in years.
christmas carol?
@@mantistoboggan5171
Muppets Treasure Island Movie
@@SurprisinglyDeep aaaahhhhhh. thought it was their christmas carol one
Methinks that in-media characters who are 'genre savvy' might be considered a less nuanced and deep form of 'meta'. Freddy Freeman in 'Shazam!' was one such example and imo it really worked in making a character who otherwise would remain a fairly hokey age old Superman expy more relevant with social media help and working within the movies themes about the importance of family. I personally appreciated that 'modernization' and how btw it and 'Aquaman' the DCEU is 'gaining it's sea-legs' all the better.
Breaking the fourth wall is getting common overtime what’s next a fifth wall
That would be if either A. It was a fourth wall break inside a fourth wall break or B. If it literally broke the walls of the reality we're in right now, like questioning if our own reality was just a projection.
Where did Thug Notes go? My dad and I found you guys through that about three years ago. We would listen to him everyday on the way to our Chemo treatment. It was one of the only things that brought laughs and smiles to our day. Being two highly educated people having the great works of literature explained like the gang members who lived on our street was amazing!! If he has his own channel I’d love to know, if not, bring him back!
Ps. I also love all your other stuff too and watch it all, just saying I miss my bread and butter y’know?
Why is Memento a product of the digital revolution in cinema when it itself was shot and edited on film?
Perhaps the idea of the digital is these packets of information being fragmented and then put back together into information. The digitalness of it is in the narrative? Maybe...? Also Wisecrack should have done a bit more research.
He was comparing it to how digital media is bits of information that could be re-sized, edited and re-arranged. If you were to take the reverse and forward storytelling of Memento and re-arranged the scenes in regular order, you would have a linear story that has a "beginning, middle, and end".
Deadpools 4th wall breaking and meta references was in the comics before they even thought of making the movie, or the video-game before that. He first appeared in 1991, making it 28 years of talking directly to the reader, comparing his own story line to movies, using speech or thought bubbles as stairs or bridges to where he's going. A true legend.
still waiting for The Philosophy of Avatar: The Last Airbender.
the dictator also had one of the most inspirational speeches in cinematic history.
Deadpool being meta makes sense, that’s his thing.
I think my favourite example of a meta movie is Funny Games. It is chilling and serves to make the audience complicit in the horrors happening on screen.
If you haven't seen it you absolutely should it is a movie tailor made for the wisecrack gang.
Y’all missed out on the best meta film movie Rubber (2010). Well I guess you’ll have to do a whole video on this masterpiece right?
Oh!, you beat me to it!! ha. I was planning on bringing up that astounding film. But honestly it is a Very underground film, that not many viewers (unfortunately..) are aware of.
Most examples in this video, I completely love Many of those films/shows/ect. But let's face it, most people have Heard of almost Every single work of art mentioned or referenced in this video; save for perhaps some of those non-spoken early 1900 films in cinema. But the majority have not heard of Rubber, which is a Perfect example of Modern-day meta done 100% correctly, brilliantly & just overall innovative. I don't see how anybody could dislike it. (unless you're just somebody who dislikes Absurdism art..)
That's why I was definitely going to be bringing Rubber up & highly recommending it. But glad that you & some others who thumbs up-ed your comment, are aware of it!! Hopefully more will know of the movie & becomes a far more known film; as it truly Deserves to be!! Oh & I would like to see an Entire video on it as well!!
Loved the 24 hour party people bit with (the real) Tony Wilson! Please do an episode where you analyse breaking the 4th wall with this movie! :)
This is why I hit that bell button
WiseCrack isn’t that good anymore
One meta thing you guys should also know about is the State Farm commercials on youtube who tell or ask you to skip.
HI JARED ITS WISECRACK HERE
I remember when I was very young being delighted watching Wonderful World of Disney, when Winnie the Pooh tipped the book that "I" was being read to get down from the tree! That must have been my first awareness of meta.
I feel like posting a video titled "Why Everything Is Meta" is opening up a can of worms, being a meta discussion in itself. And now this comment is meta. See what I mean?
That is the whole point right? Spark a critical analysis?
so meata was short for metaphysical, then meta data, then meta was a synonymy for nuance, now it's got something to do with movies? i'm so confused
"You may have noticed Deadpool is meta lately"
*rereads first deadpool comic where they literally just have a yeti and Deadpool tells the galactic police force to shove it*
Yep. It's just now that its getting meta. It was never meta before. Yep. Totally.
How is that meta? I'm dumb....😔
How is it possible that during this entire episode Black Mirror: Bandersnatch was not mentioned? It's both kind of new, and supermeta really drawing the chooser into the story. And still doing it philosophically reflecting on free will.
I acknowledge the absurdity of life all the while fully engaging in it.
Deadpool has always been breaking the 4th wall (or at least one of his personas or hallucinations...),
there are several other comics who's characters are aware... so i would not count them among the meta cinema trend but on the comic meta "trend".
I’m sad you didn’t mention
“The Producers” as a meta musical.
Julian Rivas Well he does mention Mel Brooks as a satirical filmmaker.
I could swear there was a short clip of the producers in there when talking about Mel Brooks.
One cut of the dead 2017 (Kamera o tomeru na!) is a great example of great metacinema now days!
"have we reached peak META?" is now my new favorite phrase.
Terrific. Especially the clips from the very old films.
"TIS IS METANESS!!!" "No, this is CINEMA!!!"
I am never letting you out of this box, tiny cinema philosophy dude. You must keep entertaining me or i will stop feeding you internet cookies.
Not much actual philosophy in these videos anymore tbh. Mostly just recaps of film history as it relates to X topic, they barely ever even dive into the philosophy anymore, and don’t even cite any sources. They’re losing their credibility in the philosophy department if you ask me.
No Tropic Thunder and Hot Shots references, no like.
WOW how did you very deadpool and south Park on this episode! They are crazy exclusive, this is insane; absolutely mental!
You talk about meta and don't mention Community? For shame.
Community and blazing saddles did it the best in my opinion. Also Deadpool.
I think this was a video about movies is all.
you forgot to mention one of the best recent examples of using the 4th wall breaking: mr nobody in doom patrol. he acts as the narrator of the show, but we learn that his powers allow him to change the narrative of the show, even using it actively in the finale.
I'm low-key tired of Meta Humor
Suit Up yeah I’m ready for characters to be in their stories again.
I hate fggts TRUMP 2020
I think a large part of the reason why big blockbusters are becoming more openly meta/self-aware nowadays is because of how easy it is to access websites or resources that describe or define common storytelling or cinematic tropes. As a result, these films tend to lampshade/make fun of themselves to rid the audience of any criticism or ammunition they can use against them. This can also manifest itself in other forms such as bathos where a moment of seriousness or dramatic significance is undercut by a joke or gag. While this can be used to twist a common storytelling trope, element or cliche in a new direction, I find that it becomes the cliche itself if used too often. Overall, I enjoy when metaness is used to provide new context or reconstruction of what we're already familiar with (such as the examples Jared gave with Birdman and Inside Out) since it comes across as intelligent and insightful. I much prefer this sort of metaness to postmodern snark (ie a movie excusing itself for something being mediocre by stating its awareness of the mediocrity) since it ends up taking the wind out of itself and makes it feel a bit of an empty viewing for me.
Bored of Meta Cinema?
Try Metameta Cinema or better yet, Metametameta Cinema. :D
Or try meth
post-meta
Synecdoche, New York. It was a movie about the process of writing so super realistically that it turned inside itself to the point that the work could never be completed as long as the writer was still able to write... And it was a self reflection by the actual movie writer on his previous movie about a writer (himself) who writes himself into his adaptation which was a reflection on writing.
"President sweats-a-lot bamboozled everybody"
Why do we always feel the need to repeat history?
Except it's orange this time for some reason
I think meta is still effective because I got a chuckle at the end with the youtube box joke. It might not always be deep humor but it's still got at least a bit of value.
How can you do an entire 20-minute video on Meta without a SINGLE Community reference??
I'm also disappointed that he didn't mention Other Side of the Wind.
I wish this video included exploration of The Dead Don't Die. That's a meta cinematic experience that needs to be explored at Wisecrack.
It's just Rick and we are all just Morty's.( Your Deadpool ball fonder's reference) Rick = 👹
This is a good history of metafiction in cinema, although I'd suggest metafiction goes back even earlier than Don Quixote, for example the York mystery plays from the 14th century would involve whole communities in their performances and would be littered with in-jokes and meta references, and no doubt there are earlier examples.
Also your answer to the question of "why is everything meta?" seems to be "because cinema has a long history of metafiction to explore new avenues of filmmaking" which is true, but doesn't really explain the current phenomenon, which doesn't use those techniques.
For my money, the studio making the most use of these trite meta references is Disney, but also more modern superhero films. And the reason why they are being used that way is to pre-empt and deflect criticism. If there is a criticism levelled at a Disney film, for example "why is Hawkeye an avenger when all he does is shoot arrows?", Disney can incorporate that criticism into the film to prove that they're in on the joke and on your wavelength. Similarly, the Disney remakes are often used as a way to correct the mistakes or smooth over the cracks in the original films, and even films like Moana and Frozen put in references to Disney's problematic handling of past female characters as a way of being able to sell their properties to a female market that's grown more sceptical of Disney. It's a way for major films to control the critical conversation.
Two other recent examples, The Greatest Showman and Bohemian Rhapsody, both incorporate critics into their story whose purpose is to say "the critics don't like it, but it has mass appeal, so they're wrong", effectively anticipating the critical reaction to the film's release.
Meta filmmaking in the 2010s is far removed from the innovation of earlier years, and is almost exclusively to do with peddling films to cynical audiences who derive as much pleasure from mocking films as watching them.
“It's a way for major films to control the critical conversation.”
Bam, you just answered in one sentence what WiseCrack took 20+mins to discuss and not even offer a semblance of an answer. Jared & WC has fallen off HARD, and I’ve been commenting a lot on other ppl’s posts to point that out because I used to enjoy their vids (and still do to an extent for mindless entertainment) but their critical analysis these days is complete trash. Their substantive fall from grace reminds me of when someone’s is in college and thusly are forced to read a lot more than they normally would (and it shows), but then they graduate and don’t pick up another book for years (and it shows).
worst use of Meta humor ever, in The Last Jedi.
Andrew Shaw that scene was dumb
YES! It was so stupid when Kylo Ren said "you have no place in this story." Like, what story is he talking about? It's meant as a meta-reference but it doesn't make any sense within the context of the conversation!
12:20 Never thought i'd see Pleasantville compared to the truman show, but here it is!