ANY LOVE STORY IS BETTER THAN OLD FASHIONED! ...And Moment by Moment...and Endless Love...and the Fifty Shades Trilogy...and the Twilight Saga...and Two of a Kind...and Ghost Can't Do It...and Dear Santa...and Sex and the City 1 & 2...and Christian Mingle...and A Christmas Kiss 1 & 2...and Kissing a Fool. ...Brad has seen too many bad romance movies, hasn't he? I'll stick with Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance," thank you very much.
Fun fact, the film crew gave the female cenobite the nickname Deep Throat, but they weren't allowed to use it in any credits or merchandise. I can't imagine why.
I love that the Cinema Snob brought up Rodger Ebert's review of this movie because while he was a very critical person about horror he also fucking loved Re-Animator
ChibiFighter He “liked it” gave it 3 stars and described it somewhere in the line of fun schlock or fun camp, quoting Pauline Kael, but I love ReAnimator.
@@StonedGremlinProductions I shocked the Death Squad. by the way that married couple look like a couple of federal goverent agents. Kramer raided Jerry's fridge and George is one of the Cinabites now he needed a new change from things. If we pay the Ghostbusters top dollar they can get rid of those pesky rats in that house. Gays of our lives will not be seen instead we present Pin Head and his stupidest moments from hell. look everyone it's Clay Face he needed a vacation from Gotham City prison and came here. Frank Perdues chicken is nasty the truth is revealed he used chemecals. which somehow never got inspected by the company itself.and we also found out that fruit jello in New York was snot that came out of Veegos nose. children are passing on dessert tonight and going straight to bed. maybe we can fight Pinhead with the power of pine soil garden scented. in the meantime we gonna rock onto electric avenue and then we take it higher oh no we gonna rock onto electric avenue yeah then we take it higher. Cinema Sins didn't point out that fat head monster looks a little bit like Mojo from the X Men cartoon series.
Everybody and their dog has talked about Evil Dead, Night of the Living Dead, it's practically beating a dead horse (pun intended). Zombies come to life, Bruce Campbell is a bad-ass, what more is there to say? Let's let the Zombies rest in peace... although... did Brad review all the Zombie movies?
I will always have a soft spot for the original HR trilogy...this movie's great, especially considering that the Cenobites, in all their beautifully disgusting glory, are not even the villains of the piece-Frank and Julia are.
"Anastasia, I ask you; why him? I have shown the very mother of science such pleasures she bled through every pore twice over. And even I think he is a creepo."
They'll probably take him but maybe not her. At least until his better half is stripped away pinhead cares about the desire that called to them rather then just opening the way and killing everyone nearby. Grey is a manipulative ass who gradually broke down her willpower so she will always obey him. The cenobytes would be far more interested in teaching him the real meaning of finding pleasure in pain.
@@thelemonddropskid5445 I love the trolly the engineer was on in the hallway scene. Really makes it hit home with those little wheels. Also, hated the resurrection scene when they dubbed a baby crying over it in the second movie.. But liked the first normal one.
And the MUSIC. Christopher Young really is the unsung star of this movie. He sets the tone in a way that Barker the newbie director really couldn't. (Although his score for the sequel is even better, and arguably his masterpiece.)
What astonishes me about these old horror movies, is how unbelievably gorgeous the music is to many of them. I mean, you could put the soundtrack here (or, primarily, in the sequel) to any sci-fi or fantasy film and it would still have that unnerving, sense of wonder.
How weird is it that John Carpenter busted out a better horror soundtrack in like 2 days because they couldn't afford a composer, than an actual composer can today after like 2 years?
@@peterversionone nope dude with tentidreads he plays a much larger part in the book as one of the last of the warriors. Fun fact the nightbreed are the polar opposite of the cenobites. There was even a war somewhere in history and there had to be a truce between them before the world was destroyed leaving the cenobites without their toys and nightbreed without food.
And Butterball had the main speaking role in the book. That would have looked... decidedly less horrifying and more "Jabba the Hutt" on the silver screen.
Squirrelcake The character in question only showed up once and had a speaking form similar to a teenage girl, that said this character was later turned into a male one in the sequel books. It should also be said that Barker hated/hates the name Pinhead, and has named the character different things.
3 is god awful. 4 is alright, but it lacks in comparison to the first 2. inferno wasn't good and didn't even start out as a hellraiser, but it did fit surprisingly well into the series. after that...well, it gets bad.
I fucking adore the first one, the second was the best since the first but not quite as good, the third was fun as hell!... Not "good" I guess, but really entertaining!, the fourth I didn't like the first time around but it grew on me with repeated viewings, the 5th is a generic physiological thriller that some find entertaining but I don't personally because nothing that happens matters at all, there's no stakes to anything, the 6th is the same as the 5th but with Ashley Lawrence shoved in there, so eh.. Whatever, the 7th is more entertaining than the last 2 but still isn't much good at all, the 8th is absolutely terrible, the worst in the franchise, feels like American Pie mixed with Halloween Resurrection mixed with kids dressed as Cenobites. The 9th is also terrible.... But honestly I enjoyed watching it more than anything after the 4th, that's not a compliment though. The 11th changes loads of stuff, feels like a completely different universe with its own characters and is very mediocre.. but eh... It's way more entertaining and whole than anything since Bloodline. Conclusion: Watch the original and the sequel. If you love those films and are slightly open minded to enjoy stuff that makes less sense and changes stuff then watch 3 and 4. If you like physiological thrillers that repeatedly show random shit for no reason and have predicable outcomes then watch 5,6,7. If you're a retarded pre-teen then maybe watch 8. Only ever watch 9 if you have actually been watching this whole series torturing yourself, it may give you a nice change of pace after the last 4. Maybe watch 11 anyway.. 🤷🏻♂️.. It's not terrible but it's not that good.
YOU HAVE SUMMONED US! Your suffering will be legendary even in hell. That will teach you for forcing us to acknowledge that "The Trump Prophecy" is a thing.
Tread carefully upon this film Snob. Or else I'LL TEAR YOUR SOUL APART! Seriously though, I love the first two Hellraiser movies. The cenobites are such fascinating creations. Beings of pure physical sensation who operate so far off conventional morals that good and evil can't even begin to comprehend them. Then Hellraiser 3 came along, and Dimension Films was all "Nah, we need the Cenobites to be all evil and shit! This is America! We can't have complicated or interesting things, the leather clad people gotta be straight up generic demons!"
That's so true, I've always loved that the Cenobites reaction to being summoned is pretty much like 'look, you wanted this, we're here for a reason. We wouldn't be here if you hadn't toiled over that box so don't start crying now.' In the novella Frank summons them because he's such a pervert that he's done everything and wants another level, but is so unprepared for how intense and insane the sex and sensations are that he can't take it.
@@SuperSwordman1 Lol true, the MPAA was like 'nah dog, people having their flesh ripped apart with hooks and getting their heads bashed in with hammers is fine, but you had better cut out a woman getting spanked by her lover even though it's a huge character motivation for her.' No wonder why Barker didn't bother having Frank resurrected by his own semen, there's no way he would've gotten away with it.
Hellraiser III is like they tried to mix a bottle of Awesome with a bottle of Retarded. By the way, don't they ask Frank several times in the novel if he really wants to come to their dimension before taking him?
@@germanvisitor2 All I know about Hellraiser 3 is that Dax from Deep Space 9 is in it and there's a cenobite with CDs sticking out of it's head. And yeah, they're pretty upfront that what they can offer him is probably not what he's expecting and ask him repeatedly if he's sure and there's no going back. Of course once he gets a taste he immediately regrets it.
Andrew Robinson was good in Dirty Harry. That film was about psychopaths or unfeeling men of violence; one that uses that capacity to serve the law and one who uses that capacity to break it. How they are gladiators set loose in an entire city to do battle. Good film, if you have not seen it, check it out.
I feel you may be confusing Harry Calahan with Judge Dredd. Harry is not a psychopath, or even unfeeling, nor is he that dedicated to the law (he breaks it several times). I'd say the film is more about the law sometimes protecting the guilty over the innocent, and a cop having to choose when to ignore it to save lives.
@@BWMagus It is interesting that you bring up JUDGE DREDD, being that Dredd was based on Dirty Harry (granted, an over exaggerated version of Harold Calahan, but still)
I'll assume you're right, I don't know, but I don't see how. They are almost opposites. Harry is a law-keeper who breaks the law, ignores orders, and eventually goes full-on vigilante, putting his personal belief in justice over the official law. Dredd is a law-keeper who is obsessed with his duty and for whom everything else is subservient, even though the government he is working for is not very nice. I'm not an expert in either, but it just seems very different to me.
I actually LOVED the 2nd film Hellbound: Hellraiser II wayyy better. It moved along faster and had more Pinhead in it!! I was just sad that Andrew Robinson wasn't in it as well. He's terrific in anything he does!!
One of the titles suggested for the movie was called "What a Woman Will do for a Good Fuck." what made it funny was that it was one of the female crew members that suggested it for jokes.
God, I can remember watching this movie when I was 13. Mom and Dad's idea of baby sitting; renting several horror films without checking out the rating (they really didn't give a fuck) and getting my sis and I a small pizza each. I remember liking the second one better and renting that one more. I really miss those old Mom and Pop VHS rental stores.
"This is one of those movies you sit through with mounting dread, as the fear grows inside of you that it will indeed turn out to be feature length" - Roger 'fuckin savage' Ebert
I'm really surprised that Roger Ebert hated Hellraiser, but loved Evil Dead 2, considering that the reason he hated Hellraiser was for its gore. I love Evil Dead 2 as much as the next horror movie buff, but it has plenty of its own gore, so Ebert was sensitive to that, why wasn't he put off that film too?
i can kinda see it. evil dead 2 has gore, but it goes so over the top with it, it's not really disgusting. then you have the light hearted tone of the film and it just works. hellraiser goes over the top in a few places, but not enough to make the gore "funny." with it's dour tone, it's just hard to see the gore as anything but gore.
Hellraiser makes me squeamish. It's too good at it's job, and it's presented to be exactly what it is. Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness are over-the-top gory comedies. I'm not saying Ebert was fair to judge Hellraiser for his own discomfort, but it's the same thing he did to I Spit on Your Grave compared to Last House on the Left. I think maybe he relied too much on his gut feeling, ignoring the fact that there's more than one reason why you might feel sick from a piece of media.
True, especially the stairs-framed discussion and the dinner table scenes. His smile is unnerving, I believe he also played an abusive drunk in Matlock. Perhaps he was typecast as a vicious creep.
With IT being so successful and building on “cosmic horror”, a remake would probably be pretty well received. Get James Wan or better yet Guillermo del Toro to direct, bring out the big budget practical effects, and leave the Cenobites as “things we can’t understand.”
Fun fact, that NES game never got released at all. It was planned to by Color Dreams who made other unlicensed games but from what it sounded like the game was too expensive to make because of the graphics it would have used and ultimately it was canceled since it was decided not many people would buy it. Not even a prototype has surfaced yet, I believe it only got up to some basic level/sprite design but that was it before being canceled.
Considering what the cenobites do to you when you solve the puzzle box the normal way, I don't even want to think about what they would do if you cheated!
I’m imagining what probably happened between the greedy studio that wanted a PG-13 Hellraiser movie and one of the directors who were given the option but turned it down. GREEDY STUDIO: (calling a director on the phone) Hello, we want to remake Hellraiser. DIRECTOR: Awesome! I always wanted to make a Hellraiser movie! This could fix the(gets rudely cut off during his/her sentence) GREEDY STUDIO: But there is a catch: It must be PG-13 so that we can ruthlessly milk this cash cow and(gets hung up be the director, clearly appalled by that idea). Hello? Hello? DAMN IT!! That was the 5th one this week! Now how am I gonna get disgustingly rich off of dumb 13 year olds who put their penises in anything they like?! RANDOM EMPLOYEE: I told you a PG-13 Hellraiser movie wouldn’t work. GREEDY STUDIO: SHUT UP!! YOU’RE FIRED, FRANK!!!
They'd have to use an entirely different rating system, which consisted of measuring how much Holy Water they felt they had to douse the film with before trying to cleanse it with fire. Jokes on them though, the Cenobytes just consider that another Friday night.
Yep, all these people talking about dirty harry, but to me he'll always be that humble tailor that convinced Sisko assassinating an ambassador was the right thing to do.
I have watched all of them except Revelations . Read the hellbound heart , and the Scarlet gospels...oh yes I am ready. Also I liked when the cenobites WERENT DEMONS, but as unknown creatures.
There's only one person who could remake this movie: Neil Breen. Picture him as Larry, and Tommy Wiseau as Frank. Maybe Neil could play Pinhead, too. That would be a legendary dual performance...even in Hell, where they'd be playing it constantly.
"Lament Configuration" might be my favorite 'forbidden artifact' name in all of fiction, even if it's not called that in the first one. Also you forgot about Pinhead's OTHER alias of Curly-Joe-Head!
This is one of my favorite horror movies because it felt so different and i liked the idea of the explorers of pleasure and pain. But I’m so happy you did this. This pretty much made my day. Also the Robbie Williams joke was too good. Literally no one else besides an actual brit would make that reference. The worst part about this movie now i have watched Star Trek ds9- all i can think about is the dad, Andrew Robinson, as the flamboyant cardassian spy and tailor Garak lol
"Also, I'm on crack." Well, that's news to me. I always assumed you were already on crack. So what's your excuse the rest of the time? Lol I kid, i kid. Another great vid.
Yeah, and to say nothing that he voices the spirit of the Sith Emperor in Star Wars: The Old Republic. First time I heard him in the game I nearly crapped myself: th-cam.com/video/7-iUFEEnu44/w-d-xo.html
Oh Hellraiser, I've seen every film. and it makes me so sad how swiftly they declined. (Heck i remember when it was only a trilogy & it seemed that the 3rd might just kill the franchise.)
The series went straight downhill like a lead weight after the 2nd one. They should've just ended it after the shitty 3rd one but kept pumping out crap.
Having an absolute shit day, saw this was on here, and got insanely excited. Day has gotten better because of this, and feels like things are gonna be ok.
Love these videos from The Cinema snob😊 They're insanely entertaining and well done. Good work, man👍 Your take on the Fulci-films earlier and of course our favourite film Caligula are simply awesome😎
Oh, man, if he does the sequels, he'll have such sights to see but not in a good way with those direct to video entries.....and I'm a fan as well and had to sit thru those
The first few - good. The next 5, meh, but interesting concepts. Hellworld - plot hole city. I don’t acknowledge Revelations. Haven’t watched Judgement yet, so jury’s out on that one.
I personally didn't really enjoy that one too much, it was pretty confusing and after watching it after 1 and 2 it seemed to have broken the rules. Care to explain why you like it so much?
@@austinhendry2933 Well it's true it doesn't feel that much like a Hellraiser film along the lines of 1 & 2, but after 3 & 4 it was refreshing. I thought it was conceptually cool how we got to follow the detective's journey through his own personal hell from having turned his back on his wife, partner, and parents, and how the kid being tortured who he was trying to save was himself. Not the first movie to do this sort of tale (Jacob's Ladder and Angel Heart did it too), but it was an effective horror thriller with a dose of police procedural drama thrown in the mix.
yeah, it actually feels like it's part of the same universe (even if it did start off as a stand alone film), unlike 3,4, and every movie that came after 5.
I wish there were a few scenes of Leviathon in there (like right before the hooks come out of the darkness), but I agree... this actually felt like THE HELLBOUND HEART novella. I think the Cenobite design in this is my favorite too, though Dr. Chanard's was pretty impressive.
The thing about Hellraiser to me is that... well, i just never once found it scary, even as a kid. To me, it was just more gross and revolting than it ever was scary.
yeah, i never found them scary. freddy and jason were scary because they didn't care who they killed. with pinhead, you kinda have to summon yourself, first.
@@BWMagus The thing is, Lovecraft managed to be scary. His tales were of the Dread Unknown, horrifying images and creatures, but... they were still scary, evoked fear in the reader. Hellraiser doesn't do that for me. Just makes me lose my appetite.
The first two movies were the only really good ones, but I think Hellraiser 5 is underrated. From 6 onward, they just became gorn. I will agree that 9 was terrible, but at least it TRIED to recapture the feel of the original, which is more than most of the others did. This film also features something that nobody really does anymore: stop-motion sequences in a live-action film. I really wish that practice would make a comeback. So, when you finish this film series, which one will you pick up next, Puppet-Master?
I remember when Baker was a big thing in like the late eighties early nineties, I met a guy a few years later that had a good deal of the Hellraiser movies and only novel I ever saw him read was a Clive Baker's, He still comes out with a novel here and there but he is not as big as he once was while the man who praised him years ago, Stephen King, is still coming out with a least a book a year and is still a big deal. And as for his son Joe Hill he writes horror that has a a sort of mix feel of his father's classic horror and the sort of gross body horror blood and guts slasher of Baker.
@@LicoriceLain No, I just was taken note of how Barker isn't in fashion now-a-days. Also I'm still annoyed that he never finish his damn Art trilogy far as I know.
I could be wrong, but I feel like horror in all forms of media is in a slump. Not that no one is making anything, but they don't have impact, it's not a cultural phenomenon. I wonder if it has something to do with an anemic economy and uncertain future; people have enough shit to fear in their real life.
@@BWMagus It could be all of the above. How can a monster scare you when you can see worse on any one of the half a dozen twenty-four hour news channels. They still make horror movies but many of them are just cheep and easy money grabs. As for books I'm not sure, most of the novels go straight to paperback and King has spent the last couple of years jumping from genre to genre.
The beautifully subtle, nuanced way in which you shade the lead actress, expressing the same opinion felt by I suspect nearly everyone who’s ever watched this film- Wife lady is just not believable as a woman with the sort of devastating beauty, sex appeal, and magnetic feminine charm required to have this many men ready to risk it all for a taste.
Love this movie, although I slightly like the second one better. The rebirth scene in in the attic when Frank rematerializes gives me chills to this day. Practical effects man, under valued sometimes. Oh, and Ashley Laurence is a goddess.
I love at 19:00 when he says about the Engeineer: "Get back to Arakis!" lol. Now I'm going to imagine that the Gom Jibbar box from DUNE is the same as the Lament Configuration from Hellraiser! "What's in the box?" "Pain!" hahaha That would also make Frank Mu'adDib and Julia Reverend Mother Mohiam?
That's the thing about Clive Barker movies. One way or another, someone's gonna get hooked.
Well, if my ritual to Ba'al to bring back Philip Glass is a success, I'm sure anything's possible.
Rimshot!!
Except Rawhead Rex.
i see what you did there!
Still a better love story than Old Fashioned
ANY LOVE STORY IS BETTER THAN OLD FASHIONED! ...And Moment by Moment...and Endless Love...and the Fifty Shades Trilogy...and the Twilight Saga...and Two of a Kind...and Ghost Can't Do It...and Dear Santa...and Sex and the City 1 & 2...and Christian Mingle...and A Christmas Kiss 1 & 2...and Kissing a Fool. ...Brad has seen too many bad romance movies, hasn't he? I'll stick with Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance," thank you very much.
Yeah Kirsty and Lead Cenobite are OTP.
@@SpeedyEric1 You forgot the epic Brad watched that is ...... Fateful Findings. " It was a magical day!". Indeed it was!
... Sadly, yes.
Jacob Ellison you stole my line LOL
Pinhead really nailed his role.
Guess he was also the lead cenobite. That was terrible.
I think I'd rather open the box than deal with a pun that bad.
No more Hellraiser jokes, they tear your soul apart.
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Fun fact, the film crew gave the female cenobite the nickname Deep Throat, but they weren't allowed to use it in any credits or merchandise. I can't imagine why.
In the book, if I recall correctly, she surrounds herself with a load of cut tongues and pleasures herself with them... or something that arousing.
I'd have called her pussyneck, but that's just me
That's so sexist! She should have called "dishwasher"
@@Loonaticx I’ve been calling her neckgina.
When I was a kid I thought Edward Scissorhands was a cenobyte. True story
Well that's canon in my mind now.
a cenobite that decided hell sucks I want to live suburbia lol
@@AdmiralAwsm you're welcome 😂
Cenobyte sounds like a particularly nasty computer virus.
@@evanward4303 it sure raises hell on my PC
The Snob reviewing actual good movies is always some of my favorites
I love that the Cinema Snob brought up Rodger Ebert's review of this movie because while he was a very critical person about horror he also fucking loved Re-Animator
ChibiFighter He “liked it” gave it 3 stars and described it somewhere in the line of fun schlock or fun camp, quoting Pauline Kael, but I love ReAnimator.
Plus he wrote one of the best exploitation movies ever, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.
Stoned Gremlin Productions Mmhm.
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I shocked the Death Squad.
by the way that married couple look like a couple of federal goverent agents.
Kramer raided Jerry's fridge and George is one of the Cinabites now he needed a new change from things. If we pay the Ghostbusters top dollar they can get rid of those pesky rats in that house.
Gays of our lives will not be seen instead we present Pin Head and his stupidest moments from hell. look everyone it's Clay Face he needed a vacation from Gotham City prison and came here.
Frank Perdues chicken is nasty the truth is revealed he used chemecals.
which somehow never got inspected by the company itself.and we also found out that fruit jello in New York was snot that came out of Veegos nose.
children are passing on dessert tonight and going straight to bed.
maybe we can fight Pinhead with the power of pine soil garden scented.
in the meantime we gonna rock onto electric avenue and then we take it higher oh no we gonna rock onto electric avenue yeah then we take it higher.
Cinema Sins didn't point out that fat head monster looks a little bit like Mojo from the X Men cartoon series.
Just think, after the Hellraiser series gets covered, we can get to the dozen or so Puppetmaster films.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! We've still got Phantasm to cover.
Seriously though, Cinema Snob reviews of the Phantasm films would be fantastic.
Not to mention the rest of the Texas Chainsaw films, Stepfather III, the Psycho movies, etc.
Including the David DeCoteau one, where everyone being attacked by the puppets is muscular and in distress.
Why is there not a single Evil Dead review?
Everybody and their dog has talked about Evil Dead, Night of the Living Dead, it's practically beating a dead horse (pun intended). Zombies come to life, Bruce Campbell is a bad-ass, what more is there to say? Let's let the Zombies rest in peace... although... did Brad review all the Zombie movies?
I will always have a soft spot for the original HR trilogy...this movie's great, especially considering that the Cenobites, in all their beautifully disgusting glory, are not even the villains of the piece-Frank and Julia are.
Remember when Cinema Snob once wore a dress to go check the mail and started dancing so that the mailman would stop hitting on him?
No I don't
Andrew Robinson is always good in being creepy like in Dirty Harry & Child's Play 3. "Presto. You're bald"
Wait, that’s him?! I never realized that until now.
Don't forget Garek from Star Trek DS9
His performance in Dirty Harry is absolutely amazing. One of the best film villains ever.
I like the fact that he literally plays the same evil type character in Trancers 3
To me he will always be Plain Simple Garek.
Hellraiser. Or as it's better known, Confusing Boners, the movie.
Sure, and once you're hooked, you can't get rid of that fiendish boner!
Hahahahaha
No reason boner!
Anastasia Steele and Christian Grey should get a Lemarchand box to get their lovelife to the next level. Im sure Pinhead could give them a tip or two.
"Anastasia, I ask you; why him? I have shown the very mother of science such pleasures she bled through every pore twice over. And even I think he is a creepo."
They'll probably take him but maybe not her. At least until his better half is stripped away pinhead cares about the desire that called to them rather then just opening the way and killing everyone nearby. Grey is a manipulative ass who gradually broke down her willpower so she will always obey him. The cenobytes would be far more interested in teaching him the real meaning of finding pleasure in pain.
@Nick Lager i would like to see that version, what a twist!
He could show them a few pointers even.
I enjoy this film! The practical effects are very well done.
Maybe not the Engineer... But the resurrection scene is still creepy good.
@@thelemonddropskid5445 I love the trolly the engineer was on in the hallway scene. Really makes it hit home with those little wheels. Also, hated the resurrection scene when they dubbed a baby crying over it in the second movie.. But liked the first normal one.
@@disparityband dude that hallway monster gave me nightmares as a kid. I'm actually kinda glad to see those wheels now.
@@gyromurphy lol for real...
And the MUSIC. Christopher Young really is the unsung star of this movie. He sets the tone in a way that Barker the newbie director really couldn't. (Although his score for the sequel is even better, and arguably his masterpiece.)
What astonishes me about these old horror movies, is how unbelievably gorgeous the music is to many of them. I mean, you could put the soundtrack here (or, primarily, in the sequel) to any sci-fi or fantasy film and it would still have that unnerving, sense of wonder.
How weird is it that John Carpenter busted out a better horror soundtrack in like 2 days because they couldn't afford a composer, than an actual composer can today after like 2 years?
@@BWMagus Or Phantasm even though the whole film was under a ferociously tight budget.
I would watch a Del Torro Hellraiser.
THAT SOUNDS AWESOME
@@ShadeMeadows So would a Hellraiser movie directed by Quentin Tarantino.
Fun fact, Doug Bradley originally wanted to play as the moving man instead of being under make up
And the moving man ended up playing Peloquin in Nightbreed.
Orange Elixir Peloquin? Was that the guy who cut off his face?
@@peterversionone Peloquin was the dude who bit Craig Sheffer when he comes to the cemetery the first time
Barbayat Bloodwater oh shit, he was the devil guy? Nice, I liked that character.....devil meaning red
@@peterversionone nope dude with tentidreads he plays a much larger part in the book as one of the last of the warriors. Fun fact the nightbreed are the polar opposite of the cenobites. There was even a war somewhere in history and there had to be a truce between them before the world was destroyed leaving the cenobites without their toys and nightbreed without food.
Oh Snob, don't tease us with a Pumpkinhead mention unless you mean to deliver.
Yes! As soon as he said it, I wanted to make a comment: "Do Pumpkinhead next!" ;-)
14:14
"Uh, Frank... you got a little something on your uh... everywhere."
The joke of Pinhead having a high pitched voice is a good reference to the book.
Does Pinhead even have a line in the book?
@@nexusgiga wasn't he genderly ambiguous with a wispy girls voice?
He’s scarified so much that the main character can’t tell if he’s a woman or man, but he does have a high-pitched voice
And Butterball had the main speaking role in the book. That would have looked... decidedly less horrifying and more "Jabba the Hutt" on the silver screen.
Squirrelcake The character in question only showed up once and had a speaking form similar to a teenage girl, that said this character was later turned into a male one in the sequel books.
It should also be said that Barker hated/hates the name Pinhead, and has named the character different things.
"Trojan Horse a Porn on me?!"
My new favorite sentence ender ever.
Also- that Motorhead joke. Fantastic
"Where the hell is Pumpkinhead at ?!?!".....lol
@Richard Honaker Pretty much Hellworld right there
Still wish the original ending of Freddy vs. Jason had happened. Having Pinhead show up to “mediate” the feud would have been cool.
Wish the hellraiser/halloween crossover happened. Michael and Pinhead are perfect foils for each other.
Oh man... I can't wait until you rip into everything past Hellraiser 2.
@ALJustice0
3 was a blend of equal parts great potential and complete idiocy.
3 is god awful. 4 is alright, but it lacks in comparison to the first 2. inferno wasn't good and didn't even start out as a hellraiser, but it did fit surprisingly well into the series. after that...well, it gets bad.
You could say that after Hellraiser 2 the series was... Hellbound.
I fucking adore the first one, the second was the best since the first but not quite as good, the third was fun as hell!... Not "good" I guess, but really entertaining!, the fourth I didn't like the first time around but it grew on me with repeated viewings, the 5th is a generic physiological thriller that some find entertaining but I don't personally because nothing that happens matters at all, there's no stakes to anything, the 6th is the same as the 5th but with Ashley Lawrence shoved in there, so eh.. Whatever, the 7th is more entertaining than the last 2 but still isn't much good at all, the 8th is absolutely terrible, the worst in the franchise, feels like American Pie mixed with Halloween Resurrection mixed with kids dressed as Cenobites. The 9th is also terrible.... But honestly I enjoyed watching it more than anything after the 4th, that's not a compliment though. The 11th changes loads of stuff, feels like a completely different universe with its own characters and is very mediocre.. but eh... It's way more entertaining and whole than anything since Bloodline.
Conclusion:
Watch the original and the sequel.
If you love those films and are slightly open minded to enjoy stuff that makes less sense and changes stuff then watch 3 and 4.
If you like physiological thrillers that repeatedly show random shit for no reason and have predicable outcomes then watch 5,6,7.
If you're a retarded pre-teen then maybe watch 8.
Only ever watch 9 if you have actually been watching this whole series torturing yourself, it may give you a nice change of pace after the last 4.
Maybe watch 11 anyway.. 🤷🏻♂️.. It's not terrible but it's not that good.
Try new Cinno-bites cereal, it comes in a puzzle cube shaped box.
"We have such delicious sights to show you."
YOU HAVE SUMMONED US! Your suffering will be legendary even in hell. That will teach you for forcing us to acknowledge that "The Trump Prophecy" is a thing.
Tread carefully upon this film Snob. Or else I'LL TEAR YOUR SOUL APART!
Seriously though, I love the first two Hellraiser movies. The cenobites are such fascinating creations. Beings of pure physical sensation who operate so far off conventional morals that good and evil can't even begin to comprehend them. Then Hellraiser 3 came along, and Dimension Films was all "Nah, we need the Cenobites to be all evil and shit! This is America! We can't have complicated or interesting things, the leather clad people gotta be straight up generic demons!"
That's so true, I've always loved that the Cenobites reaction to being summoned is pretty much like 'look, you wanted this, we're here for a reason. We wouldn't be here if you hadn't toiled over that box so don't start crying now.' In the novella Frank summons them because he's such a pervert that he's done everything and wants another level, but is so unprepared for how intense and insane the sex and sensations are that he can't take it.
@@swifty1147 Yup. But again, for some reason the US had to totally butcher it. This is why I hate you Hollywood.
@@SuperSwordman1 Lol true, the MPAA was like 'nah dog, people having their flesh ripped apart with hooks and getting their heads bashed in with hammers is fine, but you had better cut out a woman getting spanked by her lover even though it's a huge character motivation for her.' No wonder why Barker didn't bother having Frank resurrected by his own semen, there's no way he would've gotten away with it.
Hellraiser III is like they tried to mix a bottle of Awesome with a bottle of Retarded.
By the way, don't they ask Frank several times in the novel if he really wants to come to their dimension before taking him?
@@germanvisitor2 All I know about Hellraiser 3 is that Dax from Deep Space 9 is in it and there's a cenobite with CDs sticking out of it's head. And yeah, they're pretty upfront that what they can offer him is probably not what he's expecting and ask him repeatedly if he's sure and there's no going back. Of course once he gets a taste he immediately regrets it.
Frank was a bit of a pig, who got pulled apart. And you made that joke about pulled pork! Was that intentional? :D
Coincidence? I think NOT!!!
I miss these movies. Practical effects, R-rated horror and characters that you gave a damn about. I miss growing up in the 80s. AWESOME review.
Another film ruined by the director not understanding the source material.
But... ;)
lmao!
Win
Andrew Robinson was good in Dirty Harry. That film was about psychopaths or unfeeling men of violence; one that uses that capacity to serve the law and one who uses that capacity to break it. How they are gladiators set loose in an entire city to do battle. Good film, if you have not seen it, check it out.
He's fucking great in DS9 too, where he plays the same sort of creep only way more sympathetic.
Don't forget CHARLEY VARRICK!
I feel you may be confusing Harry Calahan with Judge Dredd. Harry is not a psychopath, or even unfeeling, nor is he that dedicated to the law (he breaks it several times). I'd say the film is more about the law sometimes protecting the guilty over the innocent, and a cop having to choose when to ignore it to save lives.
@@BWMagus It is interesting that you bring up JUDGE DREDD, being that Dredd was based on Dirty Harry (granted, an over exaggerated version of Harold Calahan, but still)
I'll assume you're right, I don't know, but I don't see how. They are almost opposites. Harry is a law-keeper who breaks the law, ignores orders, and eventually goes full-on vigilante, putting his personal belief in justice over the official law. Dredd is a law-keeper who is obsessed with his duty and for whom everything else is subservient, even though the government he is working for is not very nice. I'm not an expert in either, but it just seems very different to me.
I actually LOVED the 2nd film Hellbound: Hellraiser II wayyy better. It moved along faster and had more Pinhead in it!! I was just sad that Andrew Robinson wasn't in it as well. He's terrific in anything he does!!
Ah I get it. It's president's day so pinhead is the president of hell. Gotcha
That makes Hellraiser II really confusing.
@@germanvisitor2 lol
Goddamn this is one of the best snob episodes ever. Everything was on point 100% I hope he left enough for the sequels
One of the titles suggested for the movie was called "What a Woman Will do for a Good Fuck." what made it funny was that it was one of the female crew members that suggested it for jokes.
God, I can remember watching this movie when I was 13. Mom and Dad's idea of baby sitting; renting several horror films without checking out the rating (they really didn't give a fuck) and getting my sis and I a small pizza each. I remember liking the second one better and renting that one more. I really miss those old Mom and Pop VHS rental stores.
Between Garak here and Jadzia Dax in III, Hellraiser might just be a holosuite program on Deep Space Nine.
All the other species would probably think that it's some sort or old human lore.
"This is one of those movies you sit through with mounting dread, as the fear grows inside of you that it will indeed turn out to be feature length"
- Roger 'fuckin savage' Ebert
"For the last time rob zombie, you're not remaking this movie!" Haha
I'm really surprised that Roger Ebert hated Hellraiser, but loved Evil Dead 2, considering that the reason he hated Hellraiser was for its gore. I love Evil Dead 2 as much as the next horror movie buff, but it has plenty of its own gore, so Ebert was sensitive to that, why wasn't he put off that film too?
i can kinda see it. evil dead 2 has gore, but it goes so over the top with it, it's not really disgusting. then you have the light hearted tone of the film and it just works.
hellraiser goes over the top in a few places, but not enough to make the gore "funny." with it's dour tone, it's just hard to see the gore as anything but gore.
Hellraiser makes me squeamish. It's too good at it's job, and it's presented to be exactly what it is. Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness are over-the-top gory comedies. I'm not saying Ebert was fair to judge Hellraiser for his own discomfort, but it's the same thing he did to I Spit on Your Grave compared to Last House on the Left. I think maybe he relied too much on his gut feeling, ignoring the fact that there's more than one reason why you might feel sick from a piece of media.
Ebert couldn't handle true evil.
Because Ebert was a hypocritical prick.
"Taste like mini hot dogs, dipped in sweet n sour " 😂
Oh god 😂
Fifty Shades of Grey would have been better if Pinhead were involved.
Fifty Shades of Pinhead, if you will.
Fifty Shades of Hell
"We have such shades to show you."
Don't confuse me, I don't want to find 50 shades of grey sexy.
"Please, no tears. It's a waste of good suffering!"
"We have such pins to show you"
...you made a Rubik The Amazing Cube reference. I am unreasonably impressed right now.
After seeing this... I CAN see Andrew Robinson as The Stepfather now...
True, especially the stairs-framed discussion and the dinner table scenes. His smile is unnerving, I believe he also played an abusive drunk in Matlock. Perhaps he was typecast as a vicious creep.
Bothers me you're saying "Kristy" and not "Kirsty"
Curse-tee
Krusty.
(Hey-hey!)
Kirsty is a British name pronounced kurstee
It bothers me too, the reason why might be obvious... :D
@@welshsectionk typical Americans anything outside their bubble is beyond them.
With IT being so successful and building on “cosmic horror”, a remake would probably be pretty well received. Get James Wan or better yet Guillermo del Toro to direct, bring out the big budget practical effects, and leave the Cenobites as “things we can’t understand.”
Fun fact, that NES game never got released at all. It was planned to by Color Dreams who made other unlicensed games but from what it sounded like the game was too expensive to make because of the graphics it would have used and ultimately it was canceled since it was decided not many people would buy it.
Not even a prototype has surfaced yet, I believe it only got up to some basic level/sprite design but that was it before being canceled.
littlebitsofgaming.com/2017/10/25/i-have-such-sights-to-show-you-the-hellraiser-game-we-never-got/
@@sperrin Thanks for the link. I didn't know most of the info, interesting stuff. Cheers.
@@steveharvey2102 Glad you enjoyed reading it. I enjoyed researching and writing it.
There is never a passing animation of the New World Pictures logo that fails to warm my heart.
You just gotta rearrange the stickers and then you’ve solved it
Considering what the cenobites do to you when you solve the puzzle box the normal way, I don't even want to think about what they would do if you cheated!
Best episode
Billy and Mandy!
Hey bruh harward just call you if you want a scholarship?
I left this channel alone for four years.
Everything is still perfect.
Studio calling a dictator: we want to remake hellraiser!
Director: awesome
Studio: yeah a pg13 reboot so the kids can wa- hello?
A PG-13 "Hellraiser"? Now THAT'S terrifying.
"You have summoned us, and now we will mildly inconvenience you, and possibly off-screen you to an assumed but not verified death!"
Topher S it will be like Muzak, or frosting-covered steak...everyone will like it!
I’m imagining what probably happened between the greedy studio that wanted a PG-13 Hellraiser movie and one of the directors who were given the option but turned it down.
GREEDY STUDIO: (calling a director on the phone) Hello, we want to remake Hellraiser.
DIRECTOR: Awesome! I always wanted to make a Hellraiser movie! This could fix the(gets rudely cut off during his/her sentence)
GREEDY STUDIO: But there is a catch: It must be PG-13 so that we can ruthlessly milk this cash cow and(gets hung up be the director, clearly appalled by that idea). Hello? Hello? DAMN IT!! That was the 5th one this week! Now how am I gonna get disgustingly rich off of dumb 13 year olds who put their penises in anything they like?!
RANDOM EMPLOYEE: I told you a PG-13 Hellraiser movie wouldn’t work.
GREEDY STUDIO: SHUT UP!! YOU’RE FIRED, FRANK!!!
Pinhead was Clay Walsh before he used the box. Great improvement I must say.
I wonder how Pureflix would rate this movie? >:)
They'd have to use an entirely different rating system, which consisted of measuring how much Holy Water they felt they had to douse the film with before trying to cleanse it with fire.
Jokes on them though, the Cenobytes just consider that another Friday night.
Elysium the Bard Way more sinister than the cenobites!
Unpureflix rates it 5/5
Kudos on the Robbie Williams reference.
And with that, I have been reminded of either of the first two Hellraiser movies and my day is now officially good.
Why is it when I hear Andrew Robinson, I think about Mr Garek from Deep Space 9.
Maybe, just maybe...because Andrew Robinson actually is the actor who played Garak on DS9?
Yep, all these people talking about dirty harry, but to me he'll always be that humble tailor that convinced Sisko assassinating an ambassador was the right thing to do.
Anyone else want a crossover between this movie and Fifty Shades of Gray?
And yet still 50 Shades has the more toxic abd unhealthy relationships
Seeing Christian Grey being torn apart? Yes please!
If it ends with Grey getting captured by the cenobites, I'm in.
@@amandashotzman6324 Now all I'm thinking "YOU ARE TEARING ME AH-PART, PINHEAD!"
That would be cathartic.
I have watched all of them except Revelations . Read the hellbound heart , and the Scarlet gospels...oh yes I am ready. Also I liked when the cenobites WERENT DEMONS, but as unknown creatures.
Don't buy the hype about it, Revelations is the best Hellraiser since part 2, or maybe a re-edit of part 4.
@@disparityband I think judgment was way better.
The Snob voicing Pinhead had me dying
I almost thought you will yell "This is the winter/spring of Hellraiser!!! but then noticed lack of hair.
Lmao wrong channel bruh xD
Snob: "Hi, I'm the Cinema Snob -- the internet personality with no hair."
@@BulletTooth504 Maybe they could do a cross-over. That would be awesome!
There's only one person who could remake this movie: Neil Breen. Picture him as Larry, and Tommy Wiseau as Frank. Maybe Neil could play Pinhead, too. That would be a legendary dual performance...even in Hell, where they'd be playing it constantly.
"Lament Configuration" might be my favorite 'forbidden artifact' name in all of fiction, even if it's not called that in the first one.
Also you forgot about Pinhead's OTHER alias of Curly-Joe-Head!
Surprised producers didn't rename it the You'll-Be-Sorry-Box. You know, because those $2 words are hard!
This is one of my favorite horror movies because it felt so different and i liked the idea of the explorers of pleasure and pain. But I’m so happy you did this. This pretty much made my day.
Also the Robbie Williams joke was too good. Literally no one else besides an actual brit would make that reference.
The worst part about this movie now i have watched Star Trek ds9- all i can think about is the dad, Andrew Robinson, as the flamboyant cardassian spy and tailor Garak lol
:::raises hand:::: I'm a American, and I got the Robbie Williams joke. Cause I saw the video.
I was vaguely aware of this movie. Now I want to watch the whole series! Thanks Cinema Snob!
Frank: Don't look!
Me: Why not? That's an amazing makeup job!
I hope u also review “ Nightbreed” .
Nightbreed is awesome.
I gotta see the “unedited" version . is it good ?
Any info where I can get my hands on it. Dying to see it.
The edited version would be a more entertaining review, but the unedited version would be more tolerable to watch.
"You know I love the smell of fresh-cut salmon." I don't know why but I kinda liked this humor.
"Also, I'm on crack." Well, that's news to me. I always assumed you were already on crack. So what's your excuse the rest of the time? Lol I kid, i kid. Another great vid.
Behind Phantasm's Angus Scrimm (who I met and who was frankly amazing), Doug Bradley is my favorite horror icon.
Yeah, and to say nothing that he voices the spirit of the Sith Emperor in Star Wars: The Old Republic. First time I heard him in the game I nearly crapped myself:
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Oh Hellraiser, I've seen every film. and it makes me so sad how swiftly they declined. (Heck i remember when it was only a trilogy & it seemed that the 3rd might just kill the franchise.)
Then it was no longer only a trilogy, and you wished the 3rd one had killed the franchise!
The series went straight downhill like a lead weight after the 2nd one. They should've just ended it after the shitty 3rd one but kept pumping out crap.
Having an absolute shit day, saw this was on here, and got insanely excited. Day has gotten better because of this, and feels like things are gonna be ok.
they don’t do practical effects like this anymore :(
Chester: OHH MY GOD THIS IS THE GREATEST REVIEW I SEEN IN MY LIFE!!
Ok, I bite the hook, what is it this time.
Love these videos from The Cinema snob😊 They're insanely entertaining and well done.
Good work, man👍
Your take on the Fulci-films earlier and of course our favourite film Caligula are simply awesome😎
Gotta do the sequel! The rest are "meh" at best...and that's coming from a fan of all of them...
Oh, man, if he does the sequels, he'll have such sights to see but not in a good way with those direct to video entries.....and I'm a fan as well and had to sit thru those
Hellbound edges this one for best in the series for me, but I still love this one. Plus, I didn't think 3 was bad.
The first few - good. The next 5, meh, but interesting concepts. Hellworld - plot hole city. I don’t acknowledge Revelations. Haven’t watched Judgement yet, so jury’s out on that one.
@@lauralowe7834 Judgement was not terrible
@@lauralowe7834 Revelations is beyond bad......avoid it at any cost
Really excited to see you cover all of the hellraiser series! Good luck in later movies! Or enjoy it depending if you are a cenobite.
I love all the Clive Barker films
"Days of our Lives was graphic in the 80's!"
"Must they always film me in Dynasty bitch vision?"
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This is the _worst_ Holosuite program Garek has ever created.
Thank you so much Snob for doing these movies 😄
I've never clicked on a video notification so fast.
Great vid Brad. Also I unashamedly say my fave entry in the series is no 2 so bring it on!
Such a weird and terrifying idea.
I mean, what kind of person thinks up something like Salad Shakers?
So glad to finally see you do Hellraiser! Thnx Snob
Here's hoping either you or the Cinema Snob make it to reviewing Hellraiser V: Inferno, it's my personal favorite.
I personally didn't really enjoy that one too much, it was pretty confusing and after watching it after 1 and 2 it seemed to have broken the rules. Care to explain why you like it so much?
@@austinhendry2933 Well it's true it doesn't feel that much like a Hellraiser film along the lines of 1 & 2, but after 3 & 4 it was refreshing. I thought it was conceptually cool how we got to follow the detective's journey through his own personal hell from having turned his back on his wife, partner, and parents, and how the kid being tortured who he was trying to save was himself. Not the first movie to do this sort of tale (Jacob's Ladder and Angel Heart did it too), but it was an effective horror thriller with a dose of police procedural drama thrown in the mix.
@@xxcrysad3000xx Yeah, I guess it could be interpreted that as soon as he opened the box everything that happened was just his kind of hell.
yeah, it actually feels like it's part of the same universe (even if it did start off as a stand alone film), unlike 3,4, and every movie that came after 5.
I wish there were a few scenes of Leviathon in there (like right before the hooks come out of the darkness), but I agree... this actually felt like THE HELLBOUND HEART novella. I think the Cenobite design in this is my favorite too, though Dr. Chanard's was pretty impressive.
Hope we don't have to wait too long for the next Hellraiser review...Snobs horror reviews are a great way to relax during exam season!
Finally you did it. I hope snob reviews the horrible sequels.
2 isn't terrible
Can't wait for Brad to talk about the music video when he eventually gets to the third film...
The thing about Hellraiser to me is that... well, i just never once found it scary, even as a kid. To me, it was just more gross and revolting than it ever was scary.
I think it's meant to be more conceptually scary. The idea of being trapped in hell and constantly submitted to torture for eternity.
yeah, i never found them scary. freddy and jason were scary because they didn't care who they killed. with pinhead, you kinda have to summon yourself, first.
I watched this recently and at worst it made my skin crawl a bit. Still managed to be entertaining, which is more than I can say for some films.
I think that's the point. Horror isn't always scary. Look at Lovecraft.
@@BWMagus The thing is, Lovecraft managed to be scary. His tales were of the Dread Unknown, horrifying images and creatures, but... they were still scary, evoked fear in the reader. Hellraiser doesn't do that for me. Just makes me lose my appetite.
The first two movies were the only really good ones, but I think Hellraiser 5 is underrated. From 6 onward, they just became gorn. I will agree that 9 was terrible, but at least it TRIED to recapture the feel of the original, which is more than most of the others did. This film also features something that nobody really does anymore: stop-motion sequences in a live-action film. I really wish that practice would make a comeback. So, when you finish this film series, which one will you pick up next, Puppet-Master?
I remember when Baker was a big thing in like the late eighties early nineties, I met a guy a few years later that had a good deal of the Hellraiser movies and only novel I ever saw him read was a Clive Baker's, He still comes out with a novel here and there but he is not as big as he once was while the man who praised him years ago, Stephen King, is still coming out with a least a book a year and is still a big deal. And as for his son Joe Hill he writes horror that has a a sort of mix feel of his father's classic horror and the sort of gross body horror blood and guts slasher of Baker.
So, because he his name isn't plastered over every book store, he isn't worth shit?
@@LicoriceLain No, I just was taken note of how Barker isn't in fashion now-a-days. Also I'm still annoyed that he never finish his damn Art trilogy far as I know.
I could be wrong, but I feel like horror in all forms of media is in a slump. Not that no one is making anything, but they don't have impact, it's not a cultural phenomenon. I wonder if it has something to do with an anemic economy and uncertain future; people have enough shit to fear in their real life.
@@BWMagus It could be all of the above. How can a monster scare you when you can see worse on any one of the half a dozen twenty-four hour news channels. They still make horror movies but many of them are just cheep and easy money grabs. As for books I'm not sure, most of the novels go straight to paperback and King has spent the last couple of years jumping from genre to genre.
"Must be why she's makin' me stiff, bro." +1
Dont play with the box nope never mind to late.
The beautifully subtle, nuanced way in which you shade the lead actress, expressing the same opinion felt by I suspect nearly everyone who’s ever watched this film- Wife lady is just not believable as a woman with the sort of devastating beauty, sex appeal, and magnetic feminine charm required to have this many men ready to risk it all for a taste.
Glad to see you continue stuff, I suggest lepracaun, wishmaster, ice cream man, and omg so many classics
Frank wanted the box to turn him into the Punisher, but it turned him into Jigsaw instead.
Love this movie, although I slightly like the second one better. The rebirth scene in in the attic when Frank rematerializes gives me chills to this day. Practical effects man, under valued sometimes.
Oh, and Ashley Laurence is a goddess.
I love at 19:00 when he says about the Engeineer: "Get back to Arakis!" lol. Now I'm going to imagine that the Gom Jibbar box from DUNE is the same as the Lament Configuration from Hellraiser! "What's in the box?" "Pain!" hahaha
That would also make Frank Mu'adDib and Julia Reverend Mother Mohiam?