Collective action is actually really good on arc and stasis since they make way more elemental pickups than other classes, allowing you to stack up the duration to 30 seconds
I already got demo and incandescent and I love it, it’s so good. Also, the rocket from the dungeon is great for the final boss. It can get tracking module and bait and switch. The final boss moves around a lot and tracking is really good for her
Feel and archetype are important. Yes, enhanced incandescent is great but it’s still worth getting. Also, Bungie did say recently you’ll be able to enhance weapons, so this WILL be the best in slot without any doubts eventually.
@@AndJusticeforAll567 lol spending 4 or more hours of my life to farm for a weapon that’s .3% better than the gun I farmed for previously. That’s Destiny for ya
As soon as I saw it could roll Demo + Incandescent I knew it had to be mine.. Not enough weapons with that roll and the BxR with that trait combo is one of my favorite in the game!
It's basically the Immortal had a baby with the Calus Mini-Tool, and is better (it seems) than Borrowed Time, but CMT is better due to the enhanced perk and better ROF.
@@Jeshua_Newborn bro I was thinking how much I hate that origin trait😭 I go 100 discipline but it would be kinda nice putting those tiers into something else. I just can’t keep track of that stuff when I’m ingame
I would say bug out bag is the true calus mini tool successor, bug out bag has more range and reload than calus by a fair margin while still being a 900 rpm smg. bug out bag can also roll subsistence and incandescent combo
Good vid on the weapons. Also finally someone showing that starfire is still strong. It’s just has to be used completely differently and no one seems to understand that.
I think discord will be pretty good when you have it on multiple weapons. I’m thinking something like a scout/pulse with discord and cascade point and a shotgun with discord and harmony
I just got the same roll you have except it has a stability masterwork from helping someone with the exotic catalyst. From the catalyst chest you get dungeon loot if you already have the catalyst or don't have the exotic
Hard to chose normal incandescent weapons when the enhanced can apply 50 scorch stack. Can ignite with 2 kills with an enhanced Incan weapon whereas this would take 3
My fire team goes to get the symbols. I run Synthos with vex caliber on void or solar baby hammers titian. Both are impossible to die to adds, and both do good damage to the boss of heavy is gone, which never happens now with so much add density
Anyone that needs a arc kinetic or any weapon with osmosis banshee has a auto rifle with osmosis and adrenaline junkie and it’s armor piercing autos this season it’s a good pickup
does Discord work with Whitherhoard if you swap to the SMG? like could you drop a WH blob in front of a spawn door then swap to the SMG and still proc Discord with the WH kills?
I'm curious about Collective Action on special or heavy weapons. I got the grenade launcher with that perk and it being a stasis wave frame seems like there's potential especially when making shards on a stasis build is really easy.
I'm pretty sure I actually got the god roll for the new rocket launcher (Cold Comfort), I got Quick Launch, Impact Casing, Envious Assassin, Explosive Light with a Blast Radius Master Work and I personally think the crafted god roll for the Apex Predator is a lot better and has easier terms of use. Funny enough is my god roll Cold Comfort was the 2nd one the dungeon dropped me lol.
My friends have been out of town so ive been trying learning this dungeon solo while i wait to do a full run so ive been running it solo. Ive gotten to the boss before i got too tired to continue.
Wish pugilist was in the 3rd column. Ive been waiting for pugilist + incandescent for my sunbracers. Demo + incandescent will still be nice on my hunter
@Jacob - Ill be 100% honest with you bro, I hate zaouli's bane. It feels so inaccurate. I also hate Ads with the bxr but ig I may be able to work with the hipfire since ill be trying to fet melee kills? Idk. Ill have to try trustee but its not the greatest archetype or weapon type. Close range weapons are the best for this
Demo & Pugilist though 👀 Pugilist is a wasted perk for Sunbracers, since you only need 2-3 kills while in the air to completely get your melee back and it can be done passively in the background from your grenades.. just remember to hop. I think Demo + Incan is still the better roll for Sunbracers. If you don't have a grenade, just demo to get it, eat it for Heat Rises then just float while getting 1-2 kills for the melee.
@Haste trust me I have a juicy immortal sunbracers build. Its just sometimes I may miss my melee or it doesnt proc for some reason and then I have to sit around powerless waiting for it to come back
Man how do I get a chill group again to do raids and dungeons with. Had a couple people in D1, but they all stopped playing. Now I’m using LFG for most things, but we all know it’s hit or miss.
Hola enhoar te escribo desde España podrías hacer un vídeo sobre la build solar que utilizas ahora para el hechicero en esta temporada 21 ? Gx por tu trabajo
Dungeon farming confuses me so much, can some please tell me if I am understanding this correctly: if I were to run the whole dungeon 3x (1 on each character) in one week and the SMG did not drop a single time- would it be impossible to farm it? Because I have not unlocked it on the first completion?
You can farm the dungeon as much as you want, the only thing limited by character and weekly is the exotic at the end of the dungeon. Just farm until you get the smg roll you want.
I just don’t see how incandescent is considered the best primary perk in the game. It’s next to irrelevant in harder content. Voltshot on my Ikelos still feels excellent and in general I’ve always wished the Mini Tool had access to Frenzy. I would craft one with frenzy for harder content. For me incandescent is only good in easier content.
It can be a bit iffy at times but when an enemy ignites kills from it count as from the first thing that scorched them as long as the scorch didn't wear off. So you could melee them and then throw a grenade that adds nore scorch and ignites the enemy and if the ignition kills them then it counts as a melee kill and procs sunbracers
Is Bungie ever going to get tired of reusing that model? They could at least reskin a few other SMG models from time to time
What other SMG models do you like?
@@alex62965 viest models >>>
Tbh I never really cared about gun models, I see them like real guns where they are based off of the platform
How hard could it be to make new ones though?
@@alex62965 same as every other dead orbit since D1
Collective action is actually really good on arc and stasis since they make way more elemental pickups than other classes, allowing you to stack up the duration to 30 seconds
IT GOES TO 30??? I thought the cap was 12 that’s amazing
i believe jolt is still better which is kinda rough
you can just farm first encounter, its easier with lfg teams and drops gl/rocket/smg too
Yes! Definetly the easiest farm but the 2nd encounter is more fun and faster if you think you have a decent team ^-^
@@psychomoon7185 also second encounter dont have GL, but have useless glave, first have all good weeapons only
The dungeon is legit better than root of nightmares. It has some actual mechanics unlike root which is literally just spire of the watcher, the raid.
Agreed
I already got demo and incandescent and I love it, it’s so good. Also, the rocket from the dungeon is great for the final boss. It can get tracking module and bait and switch. The final boss moves around a lot and tracking is really good for her
Or use legend of acrius, the thing slaps
@@guber9339that nearly impossible to use on a floating boss thats almost always 20 meters away???
@@AzrealJ then float with her
@@faresalmomen5858 you’re funny lmao
@penileymajorey7174 yeah but 100 percent of the player base could go out and get it.
Feel like calus mini tool is better solely because of enhanced perks.
Yeah i think so too. Isnt enhanced incandescant together with one of the Fragments getting 85 scorch Stacks? Definitely used to be
@@Ferraribery97yeah, demos really good but not good enough to swap guns
Feel and archetype are important. Yes, enhanced incandescent is great but it’s still worth getting.
Also, Bungie did say recently you’ll be able to enhance weapons, so this WILL be the best in slot without any doubts eventually.
@@AndJusticeforAll567 lol spending 4 or more hours of my life to farm for a weapon that’s .3% better than the gun I farmed for previously. That’s Destiny for ya
Both only need 3, with ember non enhanced gives 40 scorch, enhanced gives 45
As soon as I saw it could roll Demo + Incandescent I knew it had to be mine..
Not enough weapons with that roll and the BxR with that trait combo is one of my favorite in the game!
subsistence incandescent on bug out bag is being slept on
It would be cool to see a build with malfeasance and lucky pants, now that malfeasance has vorpal I think it’ll be really strong
They added a catalyst for it Which Gives it vorpal. Although vorpal got nerfed a few months ago and isn't that good tbh.
@@Sfcfan120 vorpal is only nerfed on specials and power weapons.
No, it does not compete with top dps at all.
@MegaRayquaza_Gaming its the same damage bonus it has been for specials. It got buffed for primaries and nerfed for power
@@Sfcfan120vorpal was buffed on primary weapons my guy.
I like how the title can be both the title of the gun AND an emphasis on how good it is.
It's basically the Immortal had a baby with the Calus Mini-Tool, and is better (it seems) than Borrowed Time, but CMT is better due to the enhanced perk and better ROF.
Demo is king tho and 750s are my fav, I love the lightweight bonus tho
Too excess is just too beast tho. It's decent but minitool also has op survivability due to unrelenting.
@@Jeshua_Newborn bro I was thinking how much I hate that origin trait😭 I go 100 discipline but it would be kinda nice putting those tiers into something else. I just can’t keep track of that stuff when I’m ingame
@@seffers4788 since when has Demo been king?
Unrelenting enhanced is so underrated. Back when it came out during SotH it saved me so many times on my solo flawless Duality run.
I would say bug out bag is the true calus mini tool successor, bug out bag has more range and reload than calus by a fair margin while still being a 900 rpm smg. bug out bag can also roll subsistence and incandescent combo
currently trying to get it 0/5 red borders 😂
@@codystartin999.
bug out bag doesnt have red borders, none of the reissued reckoning weapons do
Subsistence sucks big time in heroic+ content lol,minitool is still better than bug out bad because of unrelenting
I got a Range MW, Rangefinder, Target Lock roll with 100 recoil direction. This thing is so great for PvP.
“we have imm*rtal at home”
This gun doesn’t need a shader, I like how it looks like a water gun 😊
They already have figured out to separate how much a perk buffs the weapon for primaries vs specials vs heavies. Look at vorpal weapon
Good vid on the weapons. Also finally someone showing that starfire is still strong. It’s just has to be used completely differently and no one seems to understand that.
Bro Veritys Brow fusion grenades with touche of flame and demo and adrenalin/incandecent must be crazy
Whats that shader on the Discord/Target Lock smg?
I think discord will be pretty good when you have it on multiple weapons. I’m thinking something like a scout/pulse with discord and cascade point and a shotgun with discord and harmony
Can you not just farm the first encounter? In the forest area. I thought that also drops the smg?
Yes it does, but like anything in this game, it's purely RNG. So good luck...
I just got the same roll you have except it has a stability masterwork from helping someone with the exotic catalyst. From the catalyst chest you get dungeon loot if you already have the catalyst or don't have the exotic
I got demo and pugilist and i love it, i do want a demo incandescent roll though
Lets go!! New season weapon reviews! My fav part of ur channel!
Hard to chose normal incandescent weapons when the enhanced can apply 50 scorch stack. Can ignite with 2 kills with an enhanced Incan weapon whereas this would take 3
I jusr ran my first run on the dungeon and I got no survivors with demo and incandescent, which is pretty nice
Oh yeah this thing is gonna replace my calus no doubt. Demo on the left is just too good to pass up
My fire team goes to get the symbols. I run Synthos with vex caliber on void or solar baby hammers titian. Both are impossible to die to adds, and both do good damage to the boss of heavy is gone, which never happens now with so much add density
Anyone that needs a arc kinetic or any weapon with osmosis banshee has a auto rifle with osmosis and adrenaline junkie and it’s armor piercing autos this season it’s a good pickup
does Discord work with Whitherhoard if you swap to the SMG? like could you drop a WH blob in front of a spawn door then swap to the SMG and still proc Discord with the WH kills?
I'm curious about Collective Action on special or heavy weapons. I got the grenade launcher with that perk and it being a stasis wave frame seems like there's potential especially when making shards on a stasis build is really easy.
Imagine if it could one-tap in pvp 💀
Unfortunately it’s not craftable so no enhance incandescent. I’m still gonna use mini tool because of that even though the left column perks are bad
honestly tho it feels like enhanced incandescent is mandatory cus more scorch stacks which IMO is more important than demo
I got the bug out bag with subsistence/incandescent. Haven’t fired it yet buuuuut it seems like it might be groovy
Confused lol, I thought they said every weapon after the Deepsight update would be craftable?
Have you broken one two punch with no backup plans yet? I am looking for the most powerful build I can run with legend of acrius.
I'm pretty sure I actually got the god roll for the new rocket launcher (Cold Comfort), I got Quick Launch, Impact Casing, Envious Assassin, Explosive Light with a Blast Radius Master Work and I personally think the crafted god roll for the Apex Predator is a lot better and has easier terms of use. Funny enough is my god roll Cold Comfort was the 2nd one the dungeon dropped me lol.
Do the incandescent explosion kills count towards Demolitionist energy?
Warlock sunbracer and Titan hammer restoration build worked great
My friends have been out of town so ive been trying learning this dungeon solo while i wait to do a full run so ive been running it solo. Ive gotten to the boss before i got too tired to continue.
I got demo/incandescent, it feels nice running it with my ashen wakes
Other people: starfire so bad now
Me watching ehroar use it: idk seems better at ad clear now
It was always good for add clear, the thing was good for everything but now they just made it an add clear exotic
He is using sunbracers in the gameplay shown not starfire?
The opening encounter also drops the SMG btw!
"all round a better Calus mini tool", isn't enhanced incandescent actually worth while?
Chest piece also drops from 2nd encounter.
Finally after one year bungie Finally made my request of having a solar unforgiven
What is that shader at 3:56 it looks 👌
What about target lock with the origin trait??
Would love to see you review the new bipod rocket launcher perk
I got 3 or 4, a couple with incandescent, but nothing good in the left column
Wish pugilist was in the 3rd column. Ive been waiting for pugilist + incandescent for my sunbracers. Demo + incandescent will still be nice on my hunter
Does it need to be an smg? Zaulis bane, trustee, bxr battler and tyranny of heaven get pugilist with incandescent
@Jacob - Ill be 100% honest with you bro, I hate zaouli's bane. It feels so inaccurate. I also hate Ads with the bxr but ig I may be able to work with the hipfire since ill be trying to fet melee kills? Idk. Ill have to try trustee but its not the greatest archetype or weapon type. Close range weapons are the best for this
Demo & Pugilist though 👀 Pugilist is a wasted perk for Sunbracers, since you only need 2-3 kills while in the air to completely get your melee back and it can be done passively in the background from your grenades.. just remember to hop. I think Demo + Incan is still the better roll for Sunbracers. If you don't have a grenade, just demo to get it, eat it for Heat Rises then just float while getting 1-2 kills for the melee.
@Haste trust me I have a juicy immortal sunbracers build. Its just sometimes I may miss my melee or it doesnt proc for some reason and then I have to sit around powerless waiting for it to come back
I have a surplus, target lock roll and love it
Discord seems actually pretty nice. It would be awesome on shotguns
Got it on the taken shorty and the sniper amd it def works well
I got rangefinder/taget lock so im good for pvp. Now i need that incandescent/demo
I see Rangefinder and Target lock.... would it be the next "gun" there?
Man how do I get a chill group again to do raids and dungeons with.
Had a couple people in D1, but they all stopped playing.
Now I’m using LFG for most things, but we all know it’s hit or miss.
demo, incan... that combo is nuts. FINALLY it rolls on a sub lol
better than mini tool?? hmm idk for me personally, mini tool is my baby. if I get a demo/incan roll i'll definitely try it out
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Bungie did it for vorpal and then I guess they've forgotten how to do it for anything else
Updated solar build? Or still running the one you posted a month or so ago
Does the boss really drop all four? Most loot tables Ive seen only list the rocket, smg, and glaive.
I love this fucking dungeon so much
i need to farm this weapon now. two rolls that i want: demo with adrenalin for my warlock and rangefinder with target lock for pvp.
can you get it to 30 rounds or above? anything below 30 on a slow reload smg is kind of a dealbreaker
if ur two manning first encounter is probably quicker, barring 2 legend of acrius'
You can get the smg from the first encounter as well. I got it from there
Hola enhoar te escribo desde España podrías hacer un vídeo sobre la build solar que utilizas ahora para el hechicero en esta temporada 21 ? Gx por tu trabajo
Discord also really strong in gl builds where it usaully kills multiple adds in a single gl shot
bro id love to farm dungeons but i cant be assed with the checkpoints, if every farm was like kalli farm id do them way more
Assassin's cowl arc hunter makes the upstairs adds easy.
got Range finder and Target lockon is it good?
Demo+Incandescent makes it the best smg in the game imo...Even Calus being my favorite can't beat this combo!
only took me 4 brain-bleeding hours of farming the entrance but i finally got me an incandescent roll and a decent rocket and gl
They do it for vorpal, collective should be like 40% on primaries for me to consider it
But Calus mini-tool exisits so what is the point of this gun
Got that perk roll yesterday along with a target lock!
Got a pvp godroll how good is it in pvp?
30k kills on my mini-tool...this with demo incandescent crafted??? OP! Was going to craft vattle scars but now???
Dungeon farming confuses me so much, can some please tell me if I am understanding this correctly: if I were to run the whole dungeon 3x (1 on each character) in one week and the SMG did not drop a single time- would it be impossible to farm it? Because I have not unlocked it on the first completion?
Can you only farm gear that you have unlocked that week is what I am trying to say?
You can farm the dungeon as much as you want, the only thing limited by character and weekly is the exotic at the end of the dungeon. Just farm until you get the smg roll you want.
Got demo junkie first drop. Might farm the stasis wave frame but the perks look very mid
Wish it had chill clip
Since when are activities infintely farmable? It’s been a while but i thought bungie wants you to return weekly
I hope to get a good incandescent roll. I got a decent target lock roll.
I just wish it had a bigger magazine
Naw jolt hardly seemed like it got nerfed
What shader is that on the smg?
Listen on the first boss, I also used Sunbracers we beat it first try. But I had like 800+ kills solely from sunbracers
I was doing my first run solo and by the time I got to the last boss I had 3.3k kills lol. Bosses have ridiculous HP
@@bofa722 honestly, with constant never ending ads
Which DLC does it require?
I stg if I see this gun model again
I just don’t see how incandescent is considered the best primary perk in the game. It’s next to irrelevant in harder content. Voltshot on my Ikelos still feels excellent and in general I’ve always wished the Mini Tool had access to Frenzy. I would craft one with frenzy for harder content. For me incandescent is only good in easier content.
is it better than mida smg?
Oh no, demo incandescent is my weakness.
You just threw up on my eyes w/ that Easter bunny shader. 😵
HOW is he getting sunbracers to activate like that? I thought it required a melee kill to start infinite grenades?
What? How?
It can be a bit iffy at times but when an enemy ignites kills from it count as from the first thing that scorched them as long as the scorch didn't wear off.
So you could melee them and then throw a grenade that adds nore scorch and ignites the enemy and if the ignition kills them then it counts as a melee kill and procs sunbracers
I would Like to get the gun once. Seven runs and No smg drop😢
i got discord and target lock on mine, seems good for pvp
Grind this to craft the same as calus mini tool yeah right. The grind here is for an energy immortal
Imo dungeon weapons should be craftable if raid weapons are
I wish!!
I guess they know that if ppl get all the patterns then they will NEVER play it again and then don't want that
@@Etechtroniks they will for artiface armor
what dlc needed on this ?
got rangefinder + target lock on first run, gun literally SHREDS any one in pvp
Imo brx is better, it also has demo + incandescent, its deadly accurate even from the hip, and its craftable (also its a halo br)))
when he said im out of town it gave me ptsd