He spends his working day making 1 or 2 videos, then sleeps like normal people but the videos go out at preset times. However I do appreciate the extra effort he puts in for the American releases of rules/model that us UK based players can't see until the following day. Staying up, watching a dedicating his night night to creating a video to get it out asap. That must be tough!
My Ghostkeel has been an absolute monster since 10th dropped, and i love it so very much. Played against Hypercrypt Necrons and some simple screens kept him out of 12", cleared an entire flank nearly by itself.
Same here. Even without the Lone Operative rule, stealth plus an already tanky profile and his drone ability make sure that the enemy has to really work to bring it down.
@@raddadbaker Bit strange. Ghostkeel's damage output is pretty mediocre, so many can just eat it up. Don't misunderstand ... they are very durable and excellent disruption units. But noone wanting to approach it seems a bit strange. Also don't forget that the setting damage to 0 happens before you roll the save, so you are essentially gambling on whether or not you would have made the save (so best used against dev wounds or very high ap weapons).
It needs a points increase, that is far too much survivability built in for 160 pts, other tanks or walkers around that points level tend to only have 3+ saves, at best T9/10 and similar amount or even less wounds, not stealth, lone operative, 2+ save, infiltrators, fall back and shoot AND two damage blanks. It should be paying a premium for those keywords alone on a T8, 2+ save, 12W platform irrelevant of it's firepower.
I think not mentioning the Hexmark is a bit of a shame (although I am VERY biased to my beloved glocktopus) at just 70 points you get a deep strike lone op with 5 regenerating wounds that can shoot potentially twice for free on your opponent's turn with overwatch hitting on 2s. And that's 6 s6 ap -2 shots. Not to mention it has an 8" movement which is very nice to have when most your infantry moves only 5". Maybe not the worlds scariest model but its not many points and your opponent will have to divert more then some random trash to take it out.
I thought I was tripping when the video was over and he didn't mention the Glocktopus. I had to go and double check that he still DOES have it cause I've played since precodex due to starting an escalation league with my Chaos Knights
One clarification, Ghostkeel can't negate a failed Save with his ability, it can use the drone ability instead of risking a save throw (it's just after wounding phase, so before saving throws, although you can still use it on Devastating wounds)
My Ghostkeel is MVP a lot of the time just for the rage it induces in the enemy. Parking it on a midfield objective early game and watching my opponent tear their hair out trying to remove it while getting things done with the rest of my army is always great.
On the Ghostkeel, you can't use the drones to specifically negate a failed save (same as other abilities of this type like the Rogal Dorn). Allocation of attacks happens before the save is rolled. At the time of setting damage to 0 you DO NOT KNOW if you failed the save. So either you use it on very high AP stuff which you are likely to fail (like Melta type weapons with ap -4 or higher), devastating wounds (which you can't save against) OR just gamble that you would have failed the save on something like Lascannons. Makes these types of abilities a lot less powerful than they might have been otherwise.
Love the hexmark - deepstrike and line op is great for points, and his shoot back and overwatch abilities can deter some folks from even bothering with him
Ghost Keels are so under rated. Every game I play they’re always a stand out unit. I run three now as they’re super tanky for the points, really disruptive to the opponent and can dish out some significant damage
Don't know about that. Pretty sure everyone knows how good Ghostkeels are. They just weren't played in competitive recently, because they weren't really needed. Their damage is okay, but not great too. Also don't forget that the setting damage to 0 happens before you roll the save, so you are essentially gambling on whether or not you would have made the save (so best used against dev wounds or very high ap weapons).
I’ve named my lieutenant with Combi weapon. His name is Brother Rambo, and he has done so many secondary tasks and even killed my opponents callidus assassin
I have a love of the Tau Firesight "marksman". It's a rubbish sniper, but fantastic as a spotter,objective holder & action doer. Occasionally he even kills something. The Ghostkeel is fabulous. I's a great distraction Carnifex with a Fusion blaster (though it does tend to die for me eventually) as it gets close-ish, can do a lot of damage, and fores the enemy to move out of position to attack it. It's pretty tanky when they do get shots at it though. Twin flamers on overwatch can be fun too! Now Cyclic suit squads don't exist, there's a bit of a hole for S7/8 guns in the army too. The Ion Raker is very tempting to be an untargitable annoyance, and force mistakes. The damage output isn't that strong though, so it can be ignored.
Is it just me or did you miss the Autarch Wayleaper? I would argue that it is the best lone operative in the game, even better than Callidus cuz it gets Fire and Fade. Carrying a Dragon Fusion Gun it can easily get into Melta range and crack vehicles or monsters, even more so when you throw some grenades too, then Fire and Fade back to an objective. They are just full of shenanigans, give a free CP every turn, can have a phoenix gem for self rez, dangerous damage, can deep strike, and have a 14' movement.... Every opponent I play always hates my Wayleaper...
I liked my Death Jester sniping my opponent's Chaos Lord and drawing him and his Chosen bodyguard across the midfield to get exposed to other fire. Ghostkeel sounds pretty fun, I'd run one if I had enough Tau built.
Never played before, but you can judge. I love the sniper models and got a phobos librarian to lead them for that lone operative rule. The idea would be to stick them someplace high up with good sightlines and never move them the entire game. Can't get shot unless someone gets close while the snipers take pot shots at anything that seems threatening.
Expensive unit for 3 shots though. You are honestly better just using the Eliminators move shoot move rule, hide them in terrain out of LOS, move them into a position to shoot, then move them back into the cover. Or if you want a lone operative sniper just use the Vindicare assassin, he is lone OP and has a better sniper than the Eliminators and he is 80 pts.
The video simply rubs salt into the wound of the Thousand Sons, who in fact had their two L.o.-s. taken away. F Blue Scribes and Changeling, you were incredibly useful for a slow army with almost no cheap map control.
The number of times my Warpsmiths and Meks have got turned to jam by the vehicle they were babysitting blowing up right next to them is statistically 2000% too high. Mind you, I have diabolical luck with Lone Ops in general, every time I put one in a list for action shenanigans the Objective cards immediately get possessed by Khorne and give me nothing but 'kill everything' or 'storm enemy objectives'.
And here we, two of the very best units the 'Nids have to offer... ...why are you laughing? "Pretty strong but not the best comparative to most armies" you say? Oh boy.
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Because that's the proper pronunciation, the root words are "lieu" as in "in lieu of" and "tenant" as in "occupant". A lieutenant's job is to step into command when the captain/etc is not around. Also there's no "f" in lieutenant.
@@derekeaton-loken4528 Well you didn't dispute a single word that I said, so at least we agree on the principle of the answer, if not the style in which it was conveyed.
I'll never get over how the Reductus Saboteur's main shooting weapon is remote-control bombs that she just so happened to plant where her targets are standing, probably hours or even days in advance. Talk about crazy prepared.
And somehow AdMech still managed to get the worst lone op in existence with the Skatros ahahahahah (please dataslate give the stilt boi a cool support rule)
My only complaint with Lone Op is how it interacts with Precision. Or rather, the lack of interaction. You're telling me my sniper/assassin can be so precise that they can kill the enemy commander while 10-20 bodies are surrounding them, but they can't take out the guy standing in the open holding up a "you can't shoot me" sign because he is 12" away? Even if they have a sniper or special assassin shenanigans? I get lone ops not being able to be shot by normal means (troops, tanks, etc). That works and makes perfect sense. I genuenly love it because it helps my cool characters and assassins live, and my buddy's ones too! But Precision not being able to target them is just weird to me. I love Lone Op as a rule, but this interaction really doesn't make sense. Makes some weird scenarios that don't quite work for me personally. Same with a few of my buddies. Please let me know if I'm missing something about the rule. I welcome being wrong in situations like this, as it means my enjoyment and knowledge of the game will increase. To my knowledge there is no interaction between the rules though, which is disappointing to me. Am I the weird one? Lol
Personally the way i see it is lone ops are untargetable because enemies dont know they are even there. Now granted as a tau player my point of reference is the ghostkeel and shadowsun both of which on top of using stealth tactics utilise active camouflage. I dont care how good a sniper is. If they dont know where their target even is, they aren't shooting it.
Hard to shoot what ain't there. Even if on the table there's no terrain story wise they'd be taking secret routes and passages, underground tunnels and overall not be seen until the very last moment (12")
Lone Operatives are really stealthy to the point they can't be targeted, so it is more about not even knowing they are really there, if you look at most of the lone ops like assassins, combi lt, gaunt's ghosts etc. they are stealth experts in the lore, IIRC the callidus can like morph into different things. Same with for example Shrike leading a unit, he is the chapter master of the Raven Guard, the expert stealth marines who supposedly have some sort of element of their gene seed that allows them to phase out of reality basically. So it is all about models that basically you can't even see or know are there rather than them being targetable. Which is why I think it is fine as long as their damage output is relatively low which in most cases it is, particularly long range damage so they can't sit there shooting you for big damage whilst not getting shot back. From the ones I have used and interacted with I would say most are balanced, the one I would question the most is the Ghostkeel to be honest, high ish toughness + a lot of wounds + -1 to hit + lone operative + damage blanking and 2+ save, then a fair whack of shooting for 160 pts seems a bit much IMO. Compared to like a Redemptor dread or something that is over 200 pts it seems on the cheap side, like it is getting costed for its base state line and firepower not its amazing set of rules. Most armies are paying similar or more for their tanks and they can't just ignore all shooting.
Its a legends unit, but I love Scout snipers. They are long range, can infiltrate, and can even pack a missile launcher per 5. Only played one game this edition but having them plonked ontop of a ruin getting plungeing fire all game long and not able to be touched was very fun, nice little annoying unit. Building a second unit right now!
Vindicate assassin severely underrated imo. You get to remove at least 1 if not more characters a game. and it puts a lot of fear in the enemy as well.
Good to see that Auspex got his 30 minutes of sleep in between videos
He spends his working day making 1 or 2 videos, then sleeps like normal people but the videos go out at preset times.
However I do appreciate the extra effort he puts in for the American releases of rules/model that us UK based players can't see until the following day. Staying up, watching a dedicating his night night to creating a video to get it out asap. That must be tough!
because this is a patreon video from last month
because this is a patreon video from last month
Why do we assume he needs it? Can he speak binary?
Not only sleep, he also takes those 30 minutes to eat, drink, and take care of all other unimportant business
My Ghostkeel has been an absolute monster since 10th dropped, and i love it so very much. Played against Hypercrypt Necrons and some simple screens kept him out of 12", cleared an entire flank nearly by itself.
Same here. Even without the Lone Operative rule, stealth plus an already tanky profile and his drone ability make sure that the enemy has to really work to bring it down.
Last time I was this early, the Romans were building a wall across some island.
Bruh
And Next time the Imperial Fists will Build the Wall
Daaaaamn
Ghostkeel may as well be invincible lol, it bein essentially a stealth tank is very fun
Ghostkeel has won me games from just sitting on mid objectives. No one really wants to approach him so the entire game is just played around him.
@@raddadbaker why dont they want to approach him? are you running melta/flamer?
@@jsamue12 yes I am lol
@@raddadbaker Bit strange. Ghostkeel's damage output is pretty mediocre, so many can just eat it up. Don't misunderstand ... they are very durable and excellent disruption units. But noone wanting to approach it seems a bit strange.
Also don't forget that the setting damage to 0 happens before you roll the save, so you are essentially gambling on whether or not you would have made the save (so best used against dev wounds or very high ap weapons).
It needs a points increase, that is far too much survivability built in for 160 pts, other tanks or walkers around that points level tend to only have 3+ saves, at best T9/10 and similar amount or even less wounds, not stealth, lone operative, 2+ save, infiltrators, fall back and shoot AND two damage blanks. It should be paying a premium for those keywords alone on a T8, 2+ save, 12W platform irrelevant of it's firepower.
Snikrot is looking slick now
Slickrot
Fuck yeah just finished him and a war kopta to lead some kamandos
So sneaky he didn't even show up in this list.
I think not mentioning the Hexmark is a bit of a shame (although I am VERY biased to my beloved glocktopus) at just 70 points you get a deep strike lone op with 5 regenerating wounds that can shoot potentially twice for free on your opponent's turn with overwatch hitting on 2s. And that's 6 s6 ap -2 shots. Not to mention it has an 8" movement which is very nice to have when most your infantry moves only 5". Maybe not the worlds scariest model but its not many points and your opponent will have to divert more then some random trash to take it out.
I thought I was tripping when the video was over and he didn't mention the Glocktopus. I had to go and double check that he still DOES have it cause I've played since precodex due to starting an escalation league with my Chaos Knights
Pistols
How is that the same points as a Tau Firesight team?
Woo. 3 Bs 4+ S5 2Dmg precision shots. I want your guy. :p
One clarification, Ghostkeel can't negate a failed Save with his ability, it can use the drone ability instead of risking a save throw (it's just after wounding phase, so before saving throws, although you can still use it on Devastating wounds)
My favourite lone op is Cypher because either you cannot shoot him, or you can but he'll shoot you back
My Ghostkeel is MVP a lot of the time just for the rage it induces in the enemy. Parking it on a midfield objective early game and watching my opponent tear their hair out trying to remove it while getting things done with the rest of my army is always great.
Doom Bolt says Hello!! lol
I don't understand why his s allowed in the and😅
On the Ghostkeel, you can't use the drones to specifically negate a failed save (same as other abilities of this type like the Rogal Dorn). Allocation of attacks happens before the save is rolled. At the time of setting damage to 0 you DO NOT KNOW if you failed the save. So either you use it on very high AP stuff which you are likely to fail (like Melta type weapons with ap -4 or higher), devastating wounds (which you can't save against) OR just gamble that you would have failed the save on something like Lascannons.
Makes these types of abilities a lot less powerful than they might have been otherwise.
I don't miss the days of 30 shield drones backing up a riptide while hidden behind a wall with their 5+ FNP, it felt boring to play.
@@dyciefisk2535 I can only imagine. That must have both been boring to play and play against
Always remember my fellow Death Guard players 💀💀💀🪰
Lord Typhus can snipe these sneaky bois 😎
Love the hexmark - deepstrike and line op is great for points, and his shoot back and overwatch abilities can deter some folks from even bothering with him
Callidus Assassin, the single most undercostet 40K Unit. It is able to do about everything at once. The Stratagem Rule alone is almost worth 90P
In addition, it has armorpen -4, while the biggest tyranid monsters have like -2. Almost laughable.
Ghost Keels are so under rated. Every game I play they’re always a stand out unit. I run three now as they’re super tanky for the points, really disruptive to the opponent and can dish out some significant damage
Don't know about that. Pretty sure everyone knows how good Ghostkeels are. They just weren't played in competitive recently, because they weren't really needed. Their damage is okay, but not great too.
Also don't forget that the setting damage to 0 happens before you roll the save, so you are essentially gambling on whether or not you would have made the save (so best used against dev wounds or very high ap weapons).
I’ve named my lieutenant with Combi weapon. His name is Brother Rambo, and he has done so many secondary tasks and even killed my opponents callidus assassin
I have a love of the Tau Firesight "marksman".
It's a rubbish sniper, but fantastic as a spotter,objective holder & action doer.
Occasionally he even kills something.
The Ghostkeel is fabulous. I's a great distraction Carnifex with a Fusion blaster (though it does tend to die for me eventually) as it gets close-ish, can do a lot of damage, and fores the enemy to move out of position to attack it. It's pretty tanky when they do get shots at it though. Twin flamers on overwatch can be fun too!
Now Cyclic suit squads don't exist, there's a bit of a hole for S7/8 guns in the army too. The Ion Raker is very tempting to be an untargitable annoyance, and force mistakes.
The damage output isn't that strong though, so it can be ignored.
And the Orky Meks in the row of Techmarine/Warpsmith/Enginseer 😄
Is it just me or did you miss the Autarch Wayleaper? I would argue that it is the best lone operative in the game, even better than Callidus cuz it gets Fire and Fade. Carrying a Dragon Fusion Gun it can easily get into Melta range and crack vehicles or monsters, even more so when you throw some grenades too, then Fire and Fade back to an objective. They are just full of shenanigans, give a free CP every turn, can have a phoenix gem for self rez, dangerous damage, can deep strike, and have a 14' movement....
Every opponent I play always hates my Wayleaper...
as deathguard player: what is this lone op you are speaking of?
every faction should have atleast one for the possibility
I liked my Death Jester sniping my opponent's Chaos Lord and drawing him and his Chosen bodyguard across the midfield to get exposed to other fire. Ghostkeel sounds pretty fun, I'd run one if I had enough Tau built.
Never played before, but you can judge. I love the sniper models and got a phobos librarian to lead them for that lone operative rule. The idea would be to stick them someplace high up with good sightlines and never move them the entire game. Can't get shot unless someone gets close while the snipers take pot shots at anything that seems threatening.
This exact idea came to my mind when looking at the rules. Glad to see im at least not alone in that.
Expensive unit for 3 shots though. You are honestly better just using the Eliminators move shoot move rule, hide them in terrain out of LOS, move them into a position to shoot, then move them back into the cover. Or if you want a lone operative sniper just use the Vindicare assassin, he is lone OP and has a better sniper than the Eliminators and he is 80 pts.
The video simply rubs salt into the wound of the Thousand Sons, who in fact had their two L.o.-s. taken away. F Blue Scribes and Changeling, you were incredibly useful for a slow army with almost no cheap map control.
Sorry, but our named characters don't exist to fiddle with your teleport homers~
Kharn should be a Lone Operative because...well, he's a Betrayer, of course
In regards to Gaunt's Ghost did they ever erratta the number of Sustained Hits? Cause it just says sustained hits and not the number of.
App doesn't have any number so apparently not 😅
No mention of Snikrot?
The number of times my Warpsmiths and Meks have got turned to jam by the vehicle they were babysitting blowing up right next to them is statistically 2000% too high.
Mind you, I have diabolical luck with Lone Ops in general, every time I put one in a list for action shenanigans the Objective cards immediately get possessed by Khorne and give me nothing but 'kill everything' or 'storm enemy objectives'.
Warpsmiths are not real lone ops; you cant use them like other lone ops. They only got the keyword so they cant get sniped while babysitting vehicles
Its a massive weakness that CSM dont have any apart from a named character you can only take one of and it’s debatable wherher he is even really chaos
TSons love enemy Lone Operatives… because Doombolt is an ability, not a shooting attack 😊
Grey Knights Vortex of Doom too. Annoying ass ability that one is
One day I'll be able to buy a Callidus Assassin. :|
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And here we, two of the very best units the 'Nids have to offer...
...why are you laughing? "Pretty strong but not the best comparative to most armies" you say? Oh boy.
Nothing about cyper. How sad
Nice
Unless youre against t sons and they doom bolt you anyway 😂
Adeptus mechanicus OP
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Out of curiosity. Why do you pronounce lieutenant like an American?
Because that's the proper pronunciation, the root words are "lieu" as in "in lieu of" and "tenant" as in "occupant". A lieutenant's job is to step into command when the captain/etc is not around.
Also there's no "f" in lieutenant.
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Wow. What an incredibly reductive answer.
@@derekeaton-loken4528 Well you didn't dispute a single word that I said, so at least we agree on the principle of the answer, if not the style in which it was conveyed.
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Go touch grass.
I'll never get over how the Reductus Saboteur's main shooting weapon is remote-control bombs that she just so happened to plant where her targets are standing, probably hours or even days in advance. Talk about crazy prepared.
Batman level prep time
And somehow AdMech still managed to get the worst lone op in existence with the Skatros ahahahahah (please dataslate give the stilt boi a cool support rule)
Warpsmith is worse
Cannot belive you did marbo so dirty
One day they’ll give us a restock of callidus assassins
Never
There are some decent 3d printed equivalents out there!
Element games if you're in the uk. Due in 3rd of May
My only complaint with Lone Op is how it interacts with Precision. Or rather, the lack of interaction.
You're telling me my sniper/assassin can be so precise that they can kill the enemy commander while 10-20 bodies are surrounding them, but they can't take out the guy standing in the open holding up a "you can't shoot me" sign because he is 12" away? Even if they have a sniper or special assassin shenanigans?
I get lone ops not being able to be shot by normal means (troops, tanks, etc). That works and makes perfect sense. I genuenly love it because it helps my cool characters and assassins live, and my buddy's ones too! But Precision not being able to target them is just weird to me.
I love Lone Op as a rule, but this interaction really doesn't make sense. Makes some weird scenarios that don't quite work for me personally. Same with a few of my buddies.
Please let me know if I'm missing something about the rule. I welcome being wrong in situations like this, as it means my enjoyment and knowledge of the game will increase. To my knowledge there is no interaction between the rules though, which is disappointing to me.
Am I the weird one? Lol
Nah, you're not weird. That makes perfect sense and Precision should also target Lone Operative. Gives more value to Precision and sniper units
Personally the way i see it is lone ops are untargetable because enemies dont know they are even there. Now granted as a tau player my point of reference is the ghostkeel and shadowsun both of which on top of using stealth tactics utilise active camouflage. I dont care how good a sniper is. If they dont know where their target even is, they aren't shooting it.
Hard to shoot what ain't there. Even if on the table there's no terrain story wise they'd be taking secret routes and passages, underground tunnels and overall not be seen until the very last moment (12")
Lone Operatives are really stealthy to the point they can't be targeted, so it is more about not even knowing they are really there, if you look at most of the lone ops like assassins, combi lt, gaunt's ghosts etc. they are stealth experts in the lore, IIRC the callidus can like morph into different things. Same with for example Shrike leading a unit, he is the chapter master of the Raven Guard, the expert stealth marines who supposedly have some sort of element of their gene seed that allows them to phase out of reality basically. So it is all about models that basically you can't even see or know are there rather than them being targetable. Which is why I think it is fine as long as their damage output is relatively low which in most cases it is, particularly long range damage so they can't sit there shooting you for big damage whilst not getting shot back. From the ones I have used and interacted with I would say most are balanced, the one I would question the most is the Ghostkeel to be honest, high ish toughness + a lot of wounds + -1 to hit + lone operative + damage blanking and 2+ save, then a fair whack of shooting for 160 pts seems a bit much IMO. Compared to like a Redemptor dread or something that is over 200 pts it seems on the cheap side, like it is getting costed for its base state line and firepower not its amazing set of rules. Most armies are paying similar or more for their tanks and they can't just ignore all shooting.
You ever played Metal gear Solid 3?
Gaunts ghosts every game
Its a legends unit, but I love Scout snipers. They are long range, can infiltrate, and can even pack a missile launcher per 5. Only played one game this edition but having them plonked ontop of a ruin getting plungeing fire all game long and not able to be touched was very fun, nice little annoying unit.
Building a second unit right now!
I remember the talon master..
And TSons have none 😞
Tech Magos Auspex Tactics once again proving the flesh is weak
For the alg
Vindicate assassin severely underrated imo. You get to remove at least 1 if not more characters a game. and it puts a lot of fear in the enemy as well.
I wish I could still deep strike 3 deff dreads they blow up quick but the panic they cause turn 1 would have been funny
Gonna need 2 of these to make my Custodies Playable
The sanguinor is pretty neat
17:18 bro thinks he's Chihiro
I don't Care about that anymore.
No. I already understand they are overpowered