@@drkjelle4795 people recieve hate anyways...and almost every comment section i go to all the people call everyone unnatural...can u imagine w0rking hard f0r years and s0me1 calls us unnatural...m0st pe0ple wh0 call every1 unnatural are pr0bably mad lifters because they didnt get result...people d0nt w0rk equally hard...n0t every1 will get same results...
i think its more a case of if people admit to it, it hinders the amount of sponsors they can get. companies will want to break ties etc. so for them, they wont *claim* natty, but they wont admit to being on steroids
@@kamprikorn well that’s just wrong. They care everything about their optics, and sponsoring someone who is openly on steroids damages that. Plus, how are they making money by giving it away to people
but maybe do you think there are lot of people who are natural but are still believed to be unnatural...imagine training 5 years just for someone to call you unnatural...almost everyone on internet gets that allegation...idk man...if i workout for years and idk how i would feel
@@TheMuscleGuide101 actually matt proved himself to be natural (series of test made by derek from MPMD) so having that physique at that age while being natural is hella of an achievement and everyone should look up to him.
One of the main appeals of his channel is that his videos are short, sweet and straight to the point and not padded out with footage of mundane activities
I was so eager to hear what Nathaniel had to say about David Laid, I can definitely understand why he chose to avoid it considering they’re both gymshark athletes
I just wish these influencers would be more honest about it, so that it doesn't lead to skinny kids going on a bulk for the first time thinking they are going to look the way they do after just a few months. I'd respect them more for being more honest about it, that's for sure.
I'd like for them to more honest too. Joe slamming codes for an average supplement company, or his program which is literally just a copypasta from free internet resources.
You'd respect them more, I would and planty others dofinitely would BUT people in general wouldn't. They think steroids do all the work, that you dont have to train in their opinion so it's hard for influencers to be 100% truthfull. Another thing is that most of them claimed being natty before more and more people started to realise steroids aren't everything and now they can't just go and be like "yeah, Im not natty, I've been lying this whole time".
@NoSkill I think your a lil off base with it though. Look up how many these influencers that are obvious steroid users claiming natty, then look up how many of them are trying to sponsor some sort of products. Most of them are fucking scam artists. Whether they work for it or not, they sell the idea that if you buy some certain protein powder ect. You can get as ripped as them. It's setting people up for a bad idea. To even get close to some of those guys takes 2 to 3 years of hard dedicated work and even then you'd have to starve yourself to have their BMI. That's where alot of the hate lies. That's why Noel is so beloved cause he doesn't lie. Doesn't try to sell a lie. And gives good advice that works whether your natty or not. But someone on steroids doesn't have to be as efficient as someone natural. That's why alot of videos put out by juiced up dudes doesn't work for someone like you or me. It's a shitty industry either filled with parasites trying to make a dollar off of you or the kindest people ever that just want to help everyone they can. Not much in-between for that.
Lex Little 1:10 Zach Perna 1:30 Jesse James West 1:51 Jeff Seid 2:03 Ryan Dengler 2:30 James Beardwell 2:49 David Laid 2:54 Matt Does Fitness 3:15 Mike Thurston 3:54 Alex Eubank 4:25 Dave Trains 4:42 hstikkytokky 4:47 Mike O’Hearn 5:28 Joe Delaney 5:36 Browney 5:51 Will Tennyson 5:56
Congrats on 1,000,000, Joe. You’ve inspired lots of young skinny guys to make changes so that they can be more confident, and you’ve given me more confidence to make my own content. Cheers
If joey d went on gear I'm reasonably sure we'd get a vlog of him prepping his needles for the week for an average of £2.93 before his first injection, dude felt guilty about taking a sponsorship with Rise years back, few people have more integrity than him
I dont know why ppl think Alex isnt natty. I know Alex's chest is overdeveloped but I think its genetics. He has great chest shape and genes. And other parts of his body are looks normal. Plus I dont see crazy changes past 2 years. He is natty
I have a massive chest on me and I've always had it. I guess my grandpa had a huge chest too. You are right.... There are some people that have genes that allow some body parts to develop quicker or even bigger.
its cause of his test levels, he has a crazy chest, his back is insane too, he stayed lean af for around a year had crashed T levels but somehow lost no muscle and maintained his physique entirely. Typically if your T levels drop because your lean it means muscle will atrophy. Personally im split 50/50 on alex
@@VictorL8 I mean his physique isn’t crazy to the point it’s unnatural, definitely in the realms of being natty. Also, his strength levels and weight he puts up is definitely in the natty ball park. If he’s not natty and these are his best results kinda disappointing tbh
yeah lol almost all those guys Joe says "natty" are clearly on roids. All of them work with social media, how innocent you got to be to really believe they would get natty all their lifes. I have a friend that work as a model and he started taking steroids this years because he couldn't keep lean enough (and with a certain amount of mass) the whole year as they require him to be.
@@DJVitorRocio not true. Alex eubank is hard to say, but Will,jesse, and lexx little are all examples of hard work and elite genetics. people are diffrent and some can stay lean without being on somthing.
The only crazy thing about Alex Eubanks physique is his chest, remove that and his physique is just good for a natural. He hasn't made crazy progress over the years with either strength or muscle, and most of all he edits his photos A LOT in order to appear better than he actually is. He is natty i think.
I used to believe he aint natty and i zm still on the fence, but based purely on his fizzy he can can be natty. He isn't big and hasnt rlly changed in years nor was his transformation anything special. Just very very good genes
Also you gotta remember lighting pump and camera angles. If you watch a video of Alex in his car or chillin somewhere he doesn’t even look like he lifts
This was a fun video. I'm not into bodybuilding as a goal. I did 14 years of gymnastics (ages 4 to 18) and developed a lot of lean muscle aimed for gymnastics. I got badly beat up by older guys when I was a 16 year old gymnast. They spent most of their time punching my abs. I decided to start lifting weights to add a lot of muscle and especially my legs. Some guys in wrestling team helped me out a lot. Some of those wrestlers were in amazing shape--and some thought they were not natty. But they were tested and were natty. I started to follow Joe Delaney because his physique was more like mine. I never thought he wasn't natty since I know my body and how it has stayed extremely lean. I turned age 21 last Saturday and I'm still under 10% body fat . I'm not in the fitness industry (I work in construction) and have never felt the need to juice. I'm happy to know that guys like Joe Delaney are probably natty. I do need to say that one guy who influenced me is David Laid. My physique is very similar to his in terms of biceps, lats and very lean abdominals. I followed him for this legs training videos. That got me thinking later that guys who watch what they eat and then do the sort of very heavy deadlifts and squats helps the body stay very lean. I can be naive but I assumed David Laid was natty. I know how hard I trained my legs after getting beat up. I was always very lean and after I started training legs hard my body fat got even lower. High school wrestlers in USA cannot compete if their body fat is lower than 7%. They tested in time to adjust before competing. And they were testing my body fat and I got to 5%. And I am natty. I also appreciated Joe Fazer's long journey from skinny to muscular. That is why I subscribed.
Witnessing greed and craving for recognition! Social media is so self-destructive that it destroys the dreams of millions of people unstoppably and with full force.
@@OfficialNathanielMassiah i know bro wanted to hear from him😂 at first when you are pumped and flexed i thought same but in normal you look great i doubt little bit but still think you are natty bro you are black so better genetics and black guys always got some crazy muscle insertions
iam not commenting often but i had to this time, this is literally the best natty or not ive ever seen, not scared to anger the wrong people and just telling your opinion, really enjoyed it. !!!!
But he’s always been on it, his point wasn’t really that thought out cause it only proves they haven’t upped their dose of roids or haven’t started using them in the last few years
@@KHKH-ge5sf he was literally stage ready at 14 years old. do you think he was blasting at 14? He won the natural mr universe 3 times. he just has 1 in 100 billion genetics. he might be on trt now but his whole career was natural
I agree with most of these excerpt Alex Eubank. If you listen to why his test levels were low, it was because he was cutting heavily, so because of that, his testosterone level were very low. Plus, if you have seen him over the past couple years, his physique has stayed the same for the most part
A guy not putting on progress for years doesn’t mean he’s natty. With a lot of these “natty” guys it’s very possible they blasted early on to get to their physiques and just maintain what they’ve had
however even a guy on juice not training decently doesn't mean he will achieve a great physique. being on juice =/= looking great. gear only makes you go past your genetic limit. that's it.
Only reason I personally think HStikkytokky isn't natural is I can literally imagine him and Ed saying before they got famous "lets get on the juice and only do one cycle then we can pull bare girls and sell training programmes bro" hahaha.
I agree on most of this. But I think Alex Eubank is natural. He is not that big, just looks huge because he has really good looking muscle insertions and his test levels were only very bad for a while. He often said that he might use something in the future and will tell everyone about it and I actually believe him.
MattdoesFitness is the biggest question mark for me. He's so genuine and open about being natural, and he's even done blood work to clear the air. But he's so damn big, and cut at the same time, its hard to think he's natty. He's bigger than mike Thurston, with similar conditioning, and everyone thinks Mike is on juice. I just dont think Matt is, and if he is he's the biggest and most cut natty out of them all.
I'd assume that Matt used to do PED's, but stopped due to his family growing (he has 2 kids now). I'm sure that he wants to stay alive and healthy for his wife and kids. Of course, that still makes him non-natty.
@@doyoulikecrystalgel Bruh, you out here believing Matt DoesTren pins as much as the Open Bodybulding Bbers to reach that mass? 🤡 He‘s hardly pinning Men‘s Physique doses to get his Gymshark athlete look. It‘s safe and can be sustained 30 years on.
I just commented this on another video, but you gotta keep in mind that Matt was literally a top-tier athlete in his country. I think it’s possible that he therefore has top-tier athletic ability, talent, and maybe genetics. He’s not just an influencer who bodybuilds and does social media
Literally did a similar video to this yesterday on my channel. When it comes to Alex Eubank, Definitely was on something. His test levels were lower then a 56year old man. He admitted that. How is that possible ? In your 20s your test levels peak. He has so much influence on the younger generation, and I know he’s hiding something from them
I always thought alex was natty but im curious how he crushed his testosterone levels so much. Being too lean & stressed lowers your levels but not that much. I think he was suppressed by using some form of PED.
@@repliesoffcuzimright1679 i was thinking the only reason his test could be that low is because he stopped cycling awhile before and his test hadn't returned to its natural levels. Either that or he's like tristyn lee and is just soo lean that his test is low.
Joe. Pre gym Thurston has a body better than you had after 4 years of training. His genetics are on another level. Comparing you pre and post starting to work out is crazier than comparing Mike
none of those people are natural(I'm unsure about Michael as I don't pay attention to him) and half of them have admitted to it. terry crews is too old to be in as good a shape as he is,the rock it's just obvious, chris and zac have both admitted to juicing.
Ya know, eubank might actually be natty, yes i thought he wasn't since the test results are too low but when you look at it he looks the same for about 3-4 years, and he's a master of lighting so he probably doesn't look like that without a pump and decent lighting
I think someone partying shouldn't be an indication of PED use or not, because PED users usually would try to avoid recreational drugs (or should) because their body is already under some stress from PED use, using rec drugs could be the thing that pushes the body beyond the limits and harms them. When doing PEDs, its best to not use drugs, not drink alcohol, and eat as clean as possible.
He includes religion to fool everybody into thinking he's a righteous man. It's a business and an age old game and people still fall for that bs. Plus he is huge but not that strong, his test levels are very low like off cycle, he is generally a very narcissistic person, always needs to be the prettiest in the room. Why would such a person not take anything? There are so many red flags on Alex. How so many people believe him is beyond me.
@@sathingtonwilloughby6199 lmao you clearly have no idea how he is and just judge him cause you think he looks good. Nothing extraordinary about his physique besides his chest. And he’s always had a decent chest growing up. If his test levels were so low do you think he’s post that to make him look suspicious?
@@davidhutchinson-adom4944 He is talking about depression (coincidentally a big trend in fitness rn) and how he became afraid of eating so he lost his gains after making hefty gains out of nowhere. There is so much cheesiness about this guy. But trust whoever you want to trust.
I'm Japanese, and it's also controversial and the debate about the use of drugs of some SNS influencer. Deceiving the beginner trainer and try to make profit with utilizing the body that is made thanks to PEDs is highly hated among the natty trainer.
The LAMEST thing is non-natties saying they’re natty or trying to deceive and act like they’re all natty. Just admit it - it’s way more respectable
people do recieve hate tho when they are being open about their druguse
@@drkjelle4795 people recieve hate anyways...and almost every comment section i go to all the people call everyone unnatural...can u imagine w0rking hard f0r years and s0me1 calls us unnatural...m0st pe0ple wh0 call every1 unnatural are pr0bably mad lifters because they didnt get result...people d0nt w0rk equally hard...n0t every1 will get same results...
i think its more a case of if people admit to it, it hinders the amount of sponsors they can get. companies will want to break ties etc. so for them, they wont *claim* natty, but they wont admit to being on steroids
@@lh8474 most companies dont give a fuck as long as their making them money
@@kamprikorn well that’s just wrong. They care everything about their optics, and sponsoring someone who is openly on steroids damages that. Plus, how are they making money by giving it away to people
Let’s hope we didn’t burn too many friendships 😂
David laid forgives you
david laid owns you
@@jasondeblou6226 a 25 year old whatever he is. ? Cute
Do you take steroids
@@jasondeblou6226 wrong century brother
Mad love for this video. I think a lot of people look at these athletes who claim natty and aren’t
Nigga you ain't even watched the video at time of comment
just be natural and take up on a combat sport you will be and look more badass…maybe get some tats too💪
but maybe do you think there are lot of people who are natural but are still believed to be unnatural...imagine training 5 years just for someone to call you unnatural...almost everyone on internet gets that allegation...idk man...if i workout for years and idk how i would feel
@@arpitthakur45 I don’t really follow these athletes anymore. I couldn’t care less if someone is natty or not I just focus on my own progress
Athetes?
Imagine being on steroids and the boys call you natty.
I'm sure it happens all the time. Tonnes of people take em and aren't giants.
mission acomplished
mattdoesfitness 😂
@@TheMuscleGuide101 actually matt proved himself to be natural (series of test made by derek from MPMD) so having that physique at that age while being natural is hella of an achievement and everyone should look up to him.
@@ramikhal736 u cant prove ur natural anyone can come off and pass a few drug tests its not hard athletes doing it all the time its literally his job
Joe we get fed up by a lot of people on TH-cam, but not you. Please make longer videos, because we want to see you longer than just five minutes.
One of the main appeals of his channel is that his videos are short, sweet and straight to the point and not padded out with footage of mundane activities
@@lyrony1916 Exactly. Though very short, his videos are very high quality
just watch the video multiple times or stare at a photo of him for 1hour if you want to see him longer 😘😎
I agree but at least he isn’t waffling on and it gets boring
He’s so easy to watch, the quality is top notch 🙌🏻
Joe never fails to make our day better. Props to him
Simp
I was so eager to hear what Nathaniel had to say about David Laid, I can definitely understand why he chose to avoid it considering they’re both gymshark athletes
but thats kinda saying he isn't natty
@@jonassigl8775 ye facts I just wanted to see if he had the balls to say it😂 like I said completely understandable why he didn’t
if you think David laid is natty you'd buy sand in a desert
@@jonassigl8775 He literally held up the not sign he just didn't want to comment...
I think david is not life time natty but right now maybe he only takes something to stay lean
Joe always remember we love you and your content man. You are a huge inspiration for skinny guys like me🖤
I just wish these influencers would be more honest about it, so that it doesn't lead to skinny kids going on a bulk for the first time thinking they are going to look the way they do after just a few months.
I'd respect them more for being more honest about it, that's for sure.
I'd like for them to more honest too. Joe slamming codes for an average supplement company, or his program which is literally just a copypasta from free internet resources.
You'd respect them more, I would and planty others dofinitely would BUT people in general wouldn't. They think steroids do all the work, that you dont have to train in their opinion so it's hard for influencers to be 100% truthfull. Another thing is that most of them claimed being natty before more and more people started to realise steroids aren't everything and now they can't just go and be like "yeah, Im not natty, I've been lying this whole time".
@NoSkill I think your a lil off base with it though. Look up how many these influencers that are obvious steroid users claiming natty, then look up how many of them are trying to sponsor some sort of products. Most of them are fucking scam artists. Whether they work for it or not, they sell the idea that if you buy some certain protein powder ect. You can get as ripped as them. It's setting people up for a bad idea. To even get close to some of those guys takes 2 to 3 years of hard dedicated work and even then you'd have to starve yourself to have their BMI. That's where alot of the hate lies. That's why Noel is so beloved cause he doesn't lie. Doesn't try to sell a lie. And gives good advice that works whether your natty or not. But someone on steroids doesn't have to be as efficient as someone natural. That's why alot of videos put out by juiced up dudes doesn't work for someone like you or me. It's a shitty industry either filled with parasites trying to make a dollar off of you or the kindest people ever that just want to help everyone they can. Not much in-between for that.
Lex Little 1:10
Zach Perna 1:30
Jesse James West 1:51
Jeff Seid 2:03
Ryan Dengler 2:30
James Beardwell 2:49
David Laid 2:54
Matt Does Fitness 3:15
Mike Thurston 3:54
Alex Eubank 4:25
Dave Trains 4:42
hstikkytokky 4:47
Mike O’Hearn 5:28
Joe Delaney 5:36
Browney 5:51
Will Tennyson 5:56
Thank u man
i hate hs
The comment I was looking for
Thanks
Thank you
The chemistry between these 2 is excellent. Glad the fitness industry (from TH-cam) brought these two together.
Congrats on 1,000,000, Joe. You’ve inspired lots of young skinny guys to make changes so that they can be more confident, and you’ve given me more confidence to make my own content. Cheers
Yeah, congrats!
Also inspired fat guy like me
If joey d went on gear I'm reasonably sure we'd get a vlog of him prepping his needles for the week for an average of £2.93 before his first injection, dude felt guilty about taking a sponsorship with Rise years back, few people have more integrity than him
Haha for £2.93
He'd deffo get them from Aldi
In his E-Type Jag doing his weekly £7.80 food shop from poundland
Dude I haven’t been on this channel in a while, Joe’s getting big
Congrats on 1 million! One of the few channels that truly deserve it
I dont know why ppl think Alex isnt natty. I know Alex's chest is overdeveloped but I think its genetics. He has great chest shape and genes. And other parts of his body are looks normal. Plus I dont see crazy changes past 2 years. He is natty
I have a massive chest on me and I've always had it. I guess my grandpa had a huge chest too. You are right.... There are some people that have genes that allow some body parts to develop quicker or even bigger.
its cause of his test levels, he has a crazy chest, his back is insane too, he stayed lean af for around a year had crashed T levels but somehow lost no muscle and maintained his physique entirely. Typically if your T levels drop because your lean it means muscle will atrophy. Personally im split 50/50 on alex
I think he prolly did a sarms cycle or sumn in the past which I consider not natty but I don’t think he’s on gear tbh
@@sandwichsquad74 too hard to tell, I have no idea
@@VictorL8 I mean his physique isn’t crazy to the point it’s unnatural, definitely in the realms of being natty. Also, his strength levels and weight he puts up is definitely in the natty ball park. If he’s not natty and these are his best results kinda disappointing tbh
2:29 this guy is natural and Alex Eubank is not, yeah right...
yeah lol almost all those guys Joe says "natty" are clearly on roids. All of them work with social media, how innocent you got to be to really believe they would get natty all their lifes. I have a friend that work as a model and he started taking steroids this years because he couldn't keep lean enough (and with a certain amount of mass) the whole year as they require him to be.
@@DJVitorRocio not true. Alex eubank is hard to say, but Will,jesse, and lexx little are all examples of hard work and elite genetics. people are diffrent and some can stay lean without being on somthing.
Alex eubank is such a natty that he constantly has to bring it up lmaoo
Lmao yeah, as soon as I saw him I wondered how tf they thought he was natty
The only crazy thing about Alex Eubanks physique is his chest, remove that and his physique is just good for a natural. He hasn't made crazy progress over the years with either strength or muscle, and most of all he edits his photos A LOT in order to appear better than he actually is. He is natty i think.
agreed.
I used to believe he aint natty and i zm still on the fence, but based purely on his fizzy he can can be natty. He isn't big and hasnt rlly changed in years nor was his transformation anything special. Just very very good genes
Also you gotta remember lighting pump and camera angles. If you watch a video of Alex in his car or chillin somewhere he doesn’t even look like he lifts
@@benjaminhoffman5239 Yeah and photo shop 😂
If you look at his progress his chest has always been dominant and his strong point
This was a fun video. I'm not into bodybuilding as a goal. I did 14 years of gymnastics (ages 4 to 18) and developed a lot of lean muscle aimed for gymnastics. I got badly beat up by older guys when I was a 16 year old gymnast. They spent most of their time punching my abs. I decided to start lifting weights to add a lot of muscle and especially my legs. Some guys in wrestling team helped me out a lot. Some of those wrestlers were in amazing shape--and some thought they were not natty. But they were tested and were natty. I started to follow Joe Delaney because his physique was more like mine. I never thought he wasn't natty since I know my body and how it has stayed extremely lean. I turned age 21 last Saturday and I'm still under 10% body fat . I'm not in the fitness industry (I work in construction) and have never felt the need to juice. I'm happy to know that guys like Joe Delaney are probably natty. I do need to say that one guy who influenced me is David Laid. My physique is very similar to his in terms of biceps, lats and very lean abdominals. I followed him for this legs training videos. That got me thinking later that guys who watch what they eat and then do the sort of very heavy deadlifts and squats helps the body stay very lean. I can be naive but I assumed David Laid was natty. I know how hard I trained my legs after getting beat up. I was always very lean and after I started training legs hard my body fat got even lower. High school wrestlers in USA cannot compete if their body fat is lower than 7%. They tested in time to adjust before competing. And they were testing my body fat and I got to 5%. And I am natty. I also appreciated Joe Fazer's long journey from skinny to muscular. That is why I subscribed.
Wait wtf since when did you have ANYWHERE NEAR 1mil subs. Congrats dude what a meteoric rise! Well deserved
Well this vid didn't age well.
What do you mean?
@@danhad9806 his ex gf exposed his gear usage
@@danhad9806he is on gear lol
I love that Joe (or someone) hand wrote these signs with markers lol. For such a large channel it has such a homemade feel to it.
Wow. You have a really low bar for what constitutes quality content.
Man this is gonna be fun 🔝💯
no way
You sure do comment a lot. I have seen your comments on like 10 different videos haha
NO WAY I MADE THE CUT - LOVE YOU JOE 💙💙💙
W g
I'm surprised that so many have you fooled thinking they're natty 😂
Should definitely do a longer version with a way bigger number of people in the industry, this was fun to watch
Loved this I agreed with all of them. Soon you'll be big enough that people will make Natty or Not videos on you Joe!
They already do
Witnessing greed and craving for recognition! Social media is so self-destructive that it destroys the dreams of millions of people unstoppably and with full force.
Interesting video and fair play to put yourselves on the line like that. Much respect
In this day and age, it's getting harder and harder to tell.
How ironic to do a natty or not with Nathaniel massiah as the judge.
Why its ironic bro come on racist in2022
@@truthman1677 you’re the only racist here.
@Watch Dog2 then what he is talking about lol
@@truthman1677 he’s saying it’s ironic because he and many people think I’m a fake natty myself 😂
@@OfficialNathanielMassiah i know bro wanted to hear from him😂 at first when you are pumped and flexed i thought same but in normal you look great i doubt little bit but still think you are natty bro you are black so better genetics and black guys always got some crazy muscle insertions
We just love Joe and his content❤
This is gonna be an interesting one, hyped! 🔥
iam not commenting often but i had to this time, this is literally the best natty or not ive ever seen, not scared to anger the wrong people and just telling your opinion, really enjoyed it. !!!!
Mad respect for you Joe, keep it up!
Always great to see these
so your reasoning for joe being natty is that he looked the same for several years? Mike O Hearn has looked almost the exact same for 30 years…
But he’s always been on it, his point wasn’t really that thought out cause it only proves they haven’t upped their dose of roids or haven’t started using them in the last few years
Look at Joe in undoctored photos - he's not even that big. Mainly photos and lighting that make him look bigger than he is.
@@KHKH-ge5sf he was literally stage ready at 14 years old. do you think he was blasting at 14? He won the natural mr universe 3 times. he just has 1 in 100 billion genetics. he might be on trt now but his whole career was natural
Loving the vids lately joe, the amount of work you put into each video is crazy! 🙏💯
I agree with most of these excerpt Alex Eubank. If you listen to why his test levels were low, it was because he was cutting heavily, so because of that, his testosterone level were very low. Plus, if you have seen him over the past couple years, his physique has stayed the same for the most part
A guy not putting on progress for years doesn’t mean he’s natty. With a lot of these “natty” guys it’s very possible they blasted early on to get to their physiques and just maintain what they’ve had
If you stop taking steroids you lost all you gained
however even a guy on juice not training decently doesn't mean he will achieve a great physique. being on juice =/= looking great. gear only makes you go past your genetic limit. that's it.
Troll video? Lex Little, MattDoesFitness and Ryan Dengler natty? Seems like you’re trying not to burn bridges with these people or something…
Matt is 100% not natty
Definitely mates with him..
It takes balls to make a video like that and obviously you have them because you're natty.
😂😂
Joe doesn‘t want to expose anybody
Also Joe: Exposing fitness influencers
Nice name bro
congrats on 1 mil subs joe!!!!
I really do hope one day that browney, will and joe do a collab considering they are my favorite fitness influencers
Will and Browney just recently did a challenge video on Will’s channel called The Ultimate Fitness Test: Bodybuilder Vs Calisthenics
Hold the fuck up. I have been following u since like a few thousand followers. I come to see this video my man has 1 million subscribers. Congratz Joe
Only reason I personally think HStikkytokky isn't natural is I can literally imagine him and Ed saying before they got famous "lets get on the juice and only do one cycle then we can pull bare girls and sell training programmes bro" hahaha.
also they both look in their mid to late 20s, if you see eds twin bro ed looks 5+ years older. a lot of test makes the face develop quicker
Yeh they’re defo not natural
@@BT-ot6gm tikkytokky doesn’t drink tho so his diet isn’t a problem
@@rosskenneally1128 just smokes bud and gets on the powder instead
@@BT-ot6gm no calories in that though hahaha
Hey! Just realised you hit 1 million subscribers! Definitely deserved!
I agree on most of this. But I think Alex Eubank is natural. He is not that big, just looks huge because he has really good looking muscle insertions and his test levels were only very bad for a while. He often said that he might use something in the future and will tell everyone about it and I actually believe him.
I thought Alex Eubank was natty with a super aesthetic body.
2:30 he's definitely not natty...
Correct
they have an agenda as it seems
Nice video! But the voice to music audio in the begging was a little off
MattdoesFitness is the biggest question mark for me. He's so genuine and open about being natural, and he's even done blood work to clear the air. But he's so damn big, and cut at the same time, its hard to think he's natty. He's bigger than mike Thurston, with similar conditioning, and everyone thinks Mike is on juice. I just dont think Matt is, and if he is he's the biggest and most cut natty out of them all.
I really doubt Matt is natural and I hope Greg doucette reacts to this video lol
I'd assume that Matt used to do PED's, but stopped due to his family growing (he has 2 kids now). I'm sure that he wants to stay alive and healthy for his wife and kids. Of course, that still makes him non-natty.
Must be his mate
@@doyoulikecrystalgel Bruh, you out here believing Matt DoesTren pins as much as the Open Bodybulding Bbers to reach that mass? 🤡 He‘s hardly pinning Men‘s Physique doses to get his Gymshark athlete look. It‘s safe and can be sustained 30 years on.
I just commented this on another video, but you gotta keep in mind that Matt was literally a top-tier athlete in his country. I think it’s possible that he therefore has top-tier athletic ability, talent, and maybe genetics. He’s not just an influencer who bodybuilds and does social media
Joe I love ur vids, you’ve inspired me to get bigger, keep up the great content mate 👑 🐐
Got to laugh how Mike Thurston immediately put out a video addressing his relationship with alcohol 😂
Dude is a PED train
Glad to see my boy shredbundy on there, propa lad he is
Love your videos joe keep em coming.
Based on my goals its,
1. David Laid
2. Jon Skywalker
3. Jeff Seid
4. Alex Eubank
5. Chestbrah
The friendships and collabs gonna burn rn
Great video mate, much love from the U.S 🙏💙
Literally did a similar video to this yesterday on my channel. When it comes to Alex Eubank, Definitely was on something. His test levels were lower then a 56year old man. He admitted that. How is that possible ? In your 20s your test levels peak. He has so much influence on the younger generation, and I know he’s hiding something from them
It’s not called hurting feelings or being rude. It’s called saying the TRUTH and BRUTAL HONESTY!
Ryan -natural
Alex- fake natty
🤣🤣🤣🤣
So excited when u upload! 💪
Push day, start of winter bulk and a new Joe video. Can the day get any better?
Winter Bulk? It’s 95 Fahrenheit where I live so im not considering it Winter yet 😂
joe your videos are just the best out there
Congrats on hitting the milli mark bro! So happy for you. I hope to get reviewed by you someday.
Bruh, you're built like Willian Li
@@k513faialliance5 wow!!! Thank you bro! I didn’t see this coming and never imagined myself being close to that. 💪💪💪
Incredible good video, as always ❤️
2:30, how is that natural????
I have to say whoever does your thumbnails is really good at it
I agree with almost everything, some good conversations. Personally I think Alex Eubank is natty but nobody will really ever know
Comepltely understandable bro
I always thought alex was natty but im curious how he crushed his testosterone levels so much. Being too lean & stressed lowers your levels but not that much. I think he was suppressed by using some form of PED.
@@repliesoffcuzimright1679 greg goes over this like jessie he restricting his calories way too much
@@repliesoffcuzimright1679 i was thinking the only reason his test could be that low is because he stopped cycling awhile before and his test hadn't returned to its natural levels. Either that or he's like tristyn lee and is just soo lean that his test is low.
CONGRATS ON 1 MIL!
You should have both fussed Nathaniels natty status aswell 😂
Could you maybe do a part 2 with Joe shulk and other big guys. Love your vids keep up the good work
Couple of people you said Natty who are defo on roids 😅
Joe. Pre gym Thurston has a body better than you had after 4 years of training. His genetics are on another level. Comparing you pre and post starting to work out is crazier than comparing Mike
The only problem I have with those not nattie liers is that ppl think they can look like this
Great video Joe, you're not calling anyone out with it but are still guiding the uneducated public/beginner lifters in the right direction.
Love this ahaha - glad I’m not the only one who thinks Mike’s not natty
bro, your mate is amazing. he looks so great
This didnt age well
Why
Love your videos. Trust everything you put out.
Do Natty or Not with famous actors like Chris Hemsworth, Michael B Jordan, Dwayne Johnson, Zac Efron, Terry Crews
none of those people are natural(I'm unsure about Michael as I don't pay attention to him) and half of them have admitted to it. terry crews is too old to be in as good a shape as he is,the rock it's just obvious, chris and zac have both admitted to juicing.
all not natty
They are 100% not natty. This is obvious.
Wtf video is already over. I wanna watch next. Keep this content up!
Ya know, eubank might actually be natty, yes i thought he wasn't since the test results are too low but when you look at it he looks the same for about 3-4 years, and he's a master of lighting so he probably doesn't look like that without a pump and decent lighting
Isnt it normal to have low test levels when maintaining low bodyfat for a long time? genuine question
No
Great video man
If you actually follow mike thurston you will know he doesnt actually drink much alcohol
I have to agree there, he has a summer blow out but that's really not a big one especially this year!
"Let's burn bridges" Famous last words
Alex is natural
a lot of celebrities lie and expect you to believe them
Bruh these guys are clue less 🤣🤣🤣majority of these guys are not natty… how they think they are is beyond me.
they’re faking it cause they’re friends with the fake natties
Also the kid next to Joe is a fake natty himself
Yeah this was shit
the only natty here is JesseJamesWest to me
@@lapizza7175 and Will Tenny
joe mate keep up the good work brah
Matt does not fitness is not natty
100% saucing and they said his brother is similar when taking it as serious, that screams juice to me
My dad used to say, "son I can forgive a lot of things but I hate a liar." I agree dad, I agree.
Didn’t age well 😂
Why? What happen
Really liked u guys chemistry!
Joe himself isnt natty and he makes a video on other people lmfao
I think someone partying shouldn't be an indication of PED use or not, because PED users usually would try to avoid recreational drugs (or should) because their body is already under some stress from PED use, using rec drugs could be the thing that pushes the body beyond the limits and harms them. When doing PEDs, its best to not use drugs, not drink alcohol, and eat as clean as possible.
Bro if Alex is really not natty how can he lie that good and also include religion so much
That’s true
He includes religion to fool everybody into thinking he's a righteous man. It's a business and an age old game and people still fall for that bs. Plus he is huge but not that strong, his test levels are very low like off cycle, he is generally a very narcissistic person, always needs to be the prettiest in the room. Why would such a person not take anything? There are so many red flags on Alex. How so many people believe him is beyond me.
@@sathingtonwilloughby6199 lmao you clearly have no idea how he is and just judge him cause you think he looks good. Nothing extraordinary about his physique besides his chest. And he’s always had a decent chest growing up. If his test levels were so low do you think he’s post that to make him look suspicious?
@@davidhutchinson-adom4944 He is talking about depression (coincidentally a big trend in fitness rn) and how he became afraid of eating so he lost his gains after making hefty gains out of nowhere. There is so much cheesiness about this guy. But trust whoever you want to trust.
I'm Japanese, and it's also controversial and the debate about the use of drugs of some SNS influencer. Deceiving the beginner trainer and try to make profit with utilizing the body that is made thanks to PEDs is highly hated among the natty trainer.