I didn't notice how many more dots he's applying after his last buff, not too bad. The cleanse block and always element advantage is making it sound kinda good actually. Will try him out again
so, I ironically built this team myself about two days ago. and it took me until now to realize two things: a) he needs zero accuracy cuz the dots can not be resisted and for the few units that cleanseblock is relevant, (most of which are water), it's a gamble anyway. b) his accuracy leaderskill is bullshit since his S3 got buffed for the dots to be irresistable. so I ended up upgrading my him to +2500 ATK, +140SPD, 85CR, 250CD~
Im pretty sure you got very lucky against ariel, iirc, his cleanse is not one cleanse, it cleanses once for each debuff andchanges it for a healing overtime effect
i think it would be better if you put him on 85% crit rate cuz he has the attribute advantage and you can maybe exchange the 15% crit rate for some more damage
I have been using Bael for a while now, He was actually my first nat 5. I have him on 224% CD and 92% CR with artifacts increasing his acc for his 3rd. If I get a def break, the match is over💀💀
Yeah, i have kind of the same problem with the fire deamon. He is good, but to build him with enough dmg is kind of a pain. I am using him with wind cookie for atk and cr buff, so i can build him with 55 cr and therefore fast enough to follow and a lot of dmg
How often? Pretty much every day. dont understand Bagels beef with him. Mine is bettter than his btw (more spd,hp and atk aswell as cr with an Atk/CD/Atk build on Vampire, I think about putting him on Rage later if i get similar rage runes for him)
Forgive me , but i call absolute BS , my demon is my main atk and his stats are better than that , minus crit dam, and spd .... but health , atk , and def were waaaay higher , and he got handle by a an unawaken 5* ( was Mr. Bison or whutever his name is from street fighter ) either dude cheated or your lying ...... His current stats are hp+ 6k atk+ 2.1 k def+ 302 spd+57 crt rate is 70 and crit dam is 95 or so .....
Is anyone else seeing what I'm seeing? Is Camila passive cleansing the cleanse block? If it is then that is simply the stupidest interaction I've ever seen. I thought that Bagel thought up an INSANE meta AO team, but if it can't counter Camila then it no longer has a spot in the current meta. That's super annoying tbh.
Cleanse block works as a blocker for the first time something would be cleansed. If you crit cami while applying it, the Cleanse block is removed and everything else stays. Same as if Riley or Vero cleansed, it would remove the block before anything else
Yeah, cleanse block works on the first cleanse and its removed. Thats why people never use it, the only reason it worked here is because all the damage was done on one hit. That said, if it dod work the way you want is literally nothing would be able to remove the debuffbesides taking turns, which would be nutty for control teams. I dont think I like that more
@@thereisnowayyouareforreal5156 So it only works for the first instance of a cleanse? Man that sucks and it also really contradicts the skill description that says "Blocks all enemies from removing harmful effects for 2 turns" when it should say "Blocks the first instance of removing harmful effects". Seems like a pretty big wording error in my opinion.
@@biogopher I suppose I agree. That would be quite strong with units like Zima and maybe Beth making it impossible to cleanse a silence or def break on your team. If it were only one turn of cleanse block then it would just work the exact same way as it does with Camila now and nothing is changing in that specific regard, so there's no winning.
you can reach and hold C1 with hardly much deff at all, your attacks are far more important e.g I held C3 easily and lost 99% of my defenses, in fact with a semi decent defense i would have made punisher easily as I was G2 prior to rush. Point is attack is your bets form of defense imo
My favorite part about using a DoT team is when the opposing monster violent procs and dies to the DoTs lol.
Mine is when they vio proc cleanse the whole team and then I have to take the L
5:29 "...Thanks Tiana" ...yup
I didn't notice how many more dots he's applying after his last buff, not too bad. The cleanse block and always element advantage is making it sound kinda good actually. Will try him out again
bael is like my third favorite cleave unit, after Alicia and Leah. I use him with psama, galleon, tiana, just like we used zaiross in 2016 lol
Try using Tiana galleon Bael & fire pixie
@@u-law8149Tatu cleave let’s go lool
u used zaiross in 2016
me in 2024 got Zerath but miss zaiross :)
His dots are better than Rica💀💀💀
so, I ironically built this team myself about two days ago.
and it took me until now to realize two things:
a) he needs zero accuracy cuz the dots can not be resisted and for the few units that cleanseblock is relevant, (most of which are water), it's a gamble anyway.
b) his accuracy leaderskill is bullshit since his S3 got buffed for the dots to be irresistable.
so I ended up upgrading my him to +2500 ATK, +140SPD, 85CR, 250CD~
I've been using Bael for Arena rush. People kept saying he's the worst but he works fine for me.
Everyone loves it when a monster vios to his death :D
I've used him before. His dots really help clean up the remaining monsters especially the tanky ones
i personaly realy love bael glad to see him get some recognition
I love my Katarina, even when she hits the same units 4 times in a row :')
Im pretty sure you got very lucky against ariel, iirc, his cleanse is not one cleanse, it cleanses once for each debuff andchanges it for a healing overtime effect
Do you need 100 crit if his s3 is attribute advantage? you only need 85 right? You can put the rest of the stats into more damage and speed tuning.
I guess the 100% are there for the first 2 skills
@@Prost81doesn't really matter much, you want to one shot things with him, if they survive the rest of the team and him would be enough
i think it would be better if you put him on 85% crit rate cuz he has the attribute advantage and you can maybe exchange the 15% crit rate for some more damage
he's easy to rune since he awakens to crit rate
I was gonna build him to counter Camilla defenses with the cleanse block, but she somehow cleanses the cleanse block lol
I have been using Bael for a while now, He was actually my first nat 5. I have him on 224% CD and 92% CR with artifacts increasing his acc for his 3rd. If I get a def break, the match is over💀💀
I also like katarina a lot! I use her often in guild and arena offense.
Glad i watch these time to use my bael more!
The Katarina team was so slow man...
I do use a Katirina thank you.
Great Team ... but you can't be disappointed by the SW -rng- ... that removes all Logic from the equation ...
sath stuns were crazy
justice for bael, give him better scaling com2us, or ignore death resist
Remind me why you said you should use beth just to not use beth?
I use bael cleave pretty regularly and the team i find most consistent consists of: Bael, 7r1x, Sath, tiana. Not very ftp friendly but fun nonetheless
Fire demon s3 has some nasty %, shame that since he’s the only demon without a s3 passive he gets overlooked alot
Yeah, i have kind of the same problem with the fire deamon. He is good, but to build him with enough dmg is kind of a pain. I am using him with wind cookie for atk and cr buff, so i can build him with 55 cr and therefore fast enough to follow and a lot of dmg
Came for the memes stayed because how is this unit actually working lol
woah when you say people dont like kat much, i love using her with pontos and madeline for a near 99% invincible team that wrecks through defenses
As good as most of my cleaves work.
Trinity best cleave!
I use fire lightning emperor instead of Jamire. The team is really good (and I remove the Woosa on siege, the ream is really good).
How often? Pretty much every day. dont understand Bagels beef with him. Mine is bettter than his btw (more spd,hp and atk aswell as cr with an Atk/CD/Atk build on Vampire, I think about putting him on Rage later if i get similar rage runes for him)
what about pair him with Light Triss ?
why 100% crate? we only really care for s3 here don't we?
OMG Sath video
Do you go by Bagel at work?
Not gonna lie I’ve been using this with nephtys and Bastet instead of galleon and sath works great currently ranked 573
9:10 why Am I hearing Aliens On my left AirPod ☠️
So thats a G3 Fire Demon
Hey brother I've been watching you for years and I just wanted to say hi
4:08 what is the debuff that sat put on the Ariel?
Seal (they cant use rune effects)
I loved the fire demon with amber when she was good, it was so good to nuke with Gemini Bastet
What is a good leah cleave team but without chiwu cuz i don't have him
Beth doesnt have elemental advantage, I think this is better
i use him to auto toan til floor 90 and toah til floor whatever. i just rely on his 3rd dealing damage
Please make beth team!!!
I did debuff cleave with 7rix... And him. Because i dont hv tomoe/zima
I had the choice between him and water doekebbi regret not picking him up because he looks cool
Thanks will try with Asima
doesnt his skill 3 say irresistable? why need acc then if he has 0 skills that need acc?
technically u only needed 85 cr since its attribute advantage
Forgive me , but i call absolute BS , my demon is my main atk and his stats are better than that , minus crit dam, and spd .... but health , atk , and def were waaaay higher , and he got handle by a an unawaken 5* ( was Mr. Bison or whutever his name is from street fighter ) either dude cheated or your lying ...... His current stats are hp+ 6k atk+ 2.1 k def+ 302 spd+57 crt rate is 70 and crit dam is 95 or so .....
Instead of fire Reaper use fire pixie
him plus amber sath tiana
Is anyone else seeing what I'm seeing? Is Camila passive cleansing the cleanse block? If it is then that is simply the stupidest interaction I've ever seen. I thought that Bagel thought up an INSANE meta AO team, but if it can't counter Camila then it no longer has a spot in the current meta. That's super annoying tbh.
Cleanse block works as a blocker for the first time something would be cleansed. If you crit cami while applying it, the Cleanse block is removed and everything else stays. Same as if Riley or Vero cleansed, it would remove the block before anything else
Yeah, cleanse block works on the first cleanse and its removed. Thats why people never use it, the only reason it worked here is because all the damage was done on one hit.
That said, if it dod work the way you want is literally nothing would be able to remove the debuffbesides taking turns, which would be nutty for control teams. I dont think I like that more
@@thereisnowayyouareforreal5156 So it only works for the first instance of a cleanse? Man that sucks and it also really contradicts the skill description that says "Blocks all enemies from removing harmful effects for 2 turns" when it should say "Blocks the first instance of removing harmful effects". Seems like a pretty big wording error in my opinion.
@@biogopher I suppose I agree. That would be quite strong with units like Zima and maybe Beth making it impossible to cleanse a silence or def break on your team. If it were only one turn of cleanse block then it would just work the exact same way as it does with Camila now and nothing is changing in that specific regard, so there's no winning.
@seanhsieh6158 it will go away after 2 turns, which forces stuff like Anavel to wait which can be nice.
I wanna copy your Katarina Team :D
11:09 No one on the planet knows your real name. 😂 Oh well
bagel pin this so ppl don’t have to see the bots :)
Would you guys consider Karnal , Pater , Abellio and Elenoa a decent team to reach and hold C1 ? they are all on vio/will 40k+ hp +120spd ?
you can reach and hold C1 with hardly much deff at all, your attacks are far more important e.g I held C3 easily and lost 99% of my defenses, in fact with a semi decent defense i would have made punisher easily as I was G2 prior to rush. Point is attack is your bets form of defense imo
@@seyrnahd Yea , Its probably my lazieness , thx for feedback