Thank you sir. I enjoyed the video and info. I’m trying to get a full sound (with more budget-range mics). I’ll keep moving the mics around like you did for that sweet spot. I know it’s there somewhere!
Great video! One of the best I’ve run across on TH-cam. Are these 2 mics your main preferred mics for acoustic guitar? I have a matched stereo pair of AKG C451 B but I saw a single large diaphragm condenser mic being used on Nashville session player Bryan Suttons guitar in a video of him before a Nashville session (the video is on another great session legend Tom Bukovac’s Homeschoolin TH-cam channel where he’s interviewing Bryan ahead of their session. So it got me curious about large diaphragm mics vs the mics I already own listed above. I’m just curious if these are your main go to mics for acoustic guitar. Thanks for any info
I tend to use the large diaphragm TLM 103 mic mostly. I also have a U87, a TLM 170 and a M149 (Neumanns) but the TLM 103 seems to work in most situations. If I'm in another studio with a bigger mic collection I'll try a AKG C12, or best of all a Neumann KM 86.
Recording acoustic guitar with steel strings is always challenging, but not nearly as difficult one with nylon strings, such as flamenco guitar. Perhaps you can throw some light on how to contend with the pitch undulation and flutter that is inherent in lower tension string instruments.
Hey Billy, as I can see - you have 2 different mics. Why not a similar pair? I'm just thinking about upgrading my mic and have 2 choices 1) Buy Neumann KM184 and use it with my current Sennheiser MK4 2) Sell my Sennheiser MK4 and buy like a pair of Rode's NT5 Unfortunatelly pair of neumanns a too expensive. Maybe for option 1, I could just add another neumann to a pair, but somewhere later. And I'm not professional, just hobby, learning the guitar etc :D Could you advise? Thank you p.s. lets say I can eat few months rice and buy a pair of neumanns, I will heavily use 1 mic, and another will be stored 99% of time somewhere in a box, need it only once a month, when finished new composition and wanna do like achivement - good recording of that 😁
The reason for the 2 different types of mics is because they have different characteristics and by changing the blend between them you get more tone choices. If you used 2 of the same mic or similar it would basically just be louder. 1. Never sell anything. I repeat - never sell anything. 2. You might want to check out the Slate mics, specifically the ML-2 model. I recently did a video about them and was rather impressed. th-cam.com/video/nRIv9FQEMyY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2fGUoQtDoOCd4HM3
@@FreakingOutWithBillyHume thank you for info :) But why "never sell anything"? Just curious. I'm like a type of a guy, who tries to keep my things as less as possible, so if I dont use it, I just give it to other people for good price ^^
Because there has been gear and instruments that I was totally convinced that I'd never use again or that I hated the sound of and then many years later wishing I still had them because now I want that sound. Unfortunately those items were either now collectors items that I could not afford or you just can't find them anymore.
One thing is allways bothered me. How often people change strings nowdays. My strings are now 1 month old. And i love how they sound. Approximately 2hours per day played with those strings. And im Recording new song just now with them. Not acoustic btw. When i first started to record music i made a cover from metallicas fade to black to get used to thd daw and stuff. My guitar strings were like year old. Still all the everything from solos to rhytm guitar sounded allmost like the original version. And im very sure the little differend was because of the player, not the strings🙃
I am a bamboo flutist, use mismatched mic pairs, infact one is dynamic and one is condenser. Now they sound amazing, but i have panning issues, my movements during tracking, can make either right or left side sound louder, since i record in stereo track, i can track each in mono and then adjust them to be more in center, do you think we can achieve a more stable way to record with 2 mics in stereo config which allows a but of movement and multiple sized flutes and still have coherent sound all over.? I like to move upper body while playing flute..
Well, I have several thoughts. 1. Just pan the 2 mics closer together and use a good stereo reverb with a Room setting to give it some width. 2. Move the 2 mics farther away from you when recording so your movement isn't so exaggerated. However, you'll get more room sound so hopefully your room sounds good. 3. Add compression to each mic when mixing so that when you are closer to one of the mics it will compress and help level it out. Not sure how well this would work and could possibly make the whole thing sound worse. 4. Just go with the sound moving around. 5. Check out this video about using 3 mics to record acoustic guitar. It allows me to pan the center mic but still get a 3D/stereo sound. This might work for you: th-cam.com/video/8kgIp59K1hM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7vvO3celOkOO7K6W
Autrian Audio O818 pair, the mic i am thinking of buying, has a stereo creator plugin, where in post one can adjust the mic arrangement. LIke M/S, Blumelien or true stereo, but mics are positioned in XY coincidental position. There will be 4 inputs recorded and summed in a quadraphonic track via plugin. I am wondering, if i move, and record any flute, base or small, it might be possible to correct in post, however, it will disrupt workflow and speed of tracking. I think your 2nd point above to have a good sounding room and place mics apart might be a good idea.
Yeah and usually the tinny steel strung acoustic played with plectrum. Almost nothing on YT on steel wound / nylon strung acoustic played with proper finger style not the awful plastic pick
Great tips about angle it off away from the pick. Thank you so much!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you sir. I enjoyed the video and info. I’m trying to get a full sound (with more budget-range mics). I’ll keep moving the mics around like you did for that sweet spot. I know it’s there somewhere!
More great tips, thanks! 💯
Amazing Tip , Thanks Billy
Great video! One of the best I’ve run across on TH-cam. Are these 2 mics your main preferred mics for acoustic guitar? I have a matched stereo pair of AKG C451 B but I saw a single large diaphragm condenser mic being used on Nashville session player Bryan Suttons guitar in a video of him before a Nashville session (the video is on another great session legend Tom Bukovac’s Homeschoolin TH-cam channel where he’s interviewing Bryan ahead of their session. So it got me curious about large diaphragm mics vs the mics I already own listed above. I’m just curious if these are your main go to mics for acoustic guitar. Thanks for any info
I tend to use the large diaphragm TLM 103 mic mostly. I also have a U87, a TLM 170 and a M149 (Neumanns) but the TLM 103 seems to work in most situations. If I'm in another studio with a bigger mic collection I'll try a AKG C12, or best of all a Neumann KM 86.
Amazing thanks so much for this!! Very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!!
Thank you for the great recording lesson! The guitar recording sounds amazing. Could you tell me what guitar model that is ?
Thanks! That is a Heritage series Gibson.
Thanks Billy!
Thanks EDawg!
I see that Rosetta Apogee on the left at :59!
Yep. I use that a lot.
Thanks for sharing
Recording acoustic guitar with steel strings is always challenging, but not nearly as difficult one with nylon strings, such as flamenco guitar. Perhaps you can throw some light on how to contend with the pitch undulation and flutter that is inherent in lower tension string instruments.
Hey Billy, as I can see - you have 2 different mics. Why not a similar pair?
I'm just thinking about upgrading my mic and have 2 choices
1) Buy Neumann KM184 and use it with my current Sennheiser MK4
2) Sell my Sennheiser MK4 and buy like a pair of Rode's NT5
Unfortunatelly pair of neumanns a too expensive. Maybe for option 1, I could just add another neumann to a pair, but somewhere later. And I'm not professional, just hobby, learning the guitar etc :D Could you advise? Thank you
p.s. lets say I can eat few months rice and buy a pair of neumanns, I will heavily use 1 mic, and another will be stored 99% of time somewhere in a box, need it only once a month, when finished new composition and wanna do like achivement - good recording of that 😁
The reason for the 2 different types of mics is because they have different characteristics and by changing the blend between them you get more tone choices. If you used 2 of the same mic or similar it would basically just be louder.
1. Never sell anything. I repeat - never sell anything.
2. You might want to check out the Slate mics, specifically the ML-2 model. I recently did a video about them and was rather impressed. th-cam.com/video/nRIv9FQEMyY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2fGUoQtDoOCd4HM3
@@FreakingOutWithBillyHume thank you for info :) But why "never sell anything"? Just curious. I'm like a type of a guy, who tries to keep my things as less as possible, so if I dont use it, I just give it to other people for good price ^^
Because there has been gear and instruments that I was totally convinced that I'd never use again or that I hated the sound of and then many years later wishing I still had them because now I want that sound. Unfortunately those items were either now collectors items that I could not afford or you just can't find them anymore.
Great video! I always wondered if you panned those mics left and right or even just a little.
Thanks!
what i needed thanks
I'm glad it helped you.
One thing is allways bothered me. How often people change strings nowdays. My strings are now 1 month old. And i love how they sound. Approximately 2hours per day played with those strings. And im Recording new song just now with them. Not acoustic btw.
When i first started to record music i made a cover from metallicas fade to black to get used to thd daw and stuff. My guitar strings were like year old. Still all the everything from solos to rhytm guitar sounded allmost like the original version. And im very sure the little differend was because of the player, not the strings🙃
Good one!
Thanks man!
I am a bamboo flutist, use mismatched mic pairs, infact one is dynamic and one is condenser. Now they sound amazing, but i have panning issues, my movements during tracking, can make either right or left side sound louder, since i record in stereo track, i can track each in mono and then adjust them to be more in center, do you think we can achieve a more stable way to record with 2 mics in stereo config which allows a but of movement and multiple sized flutes and still have coherent sound all over.? I like to move upper body while playing flute..
Well, I have several thoughts.
1. Just pan the 2 mics closer together and use a good stereo reverb with a Room setting to give it some width.
2. Move the 2 mics farther away from you when recording so your movement isn't so exaggerated. However, you'll get more room sound so hopefully your room sounds good.
3. Add compression to each mic when mixing so that when you are closer to one of the mics it will compress and help level it out. Not sure how well this would work and could possibly make the whole thing sound worse.
4. Just go with the sound moving around.
5. Check out this video about using 3 mics to record acoustic guitar. It allows me to pan the center mic but still get a 3D/stereo sound. This might work for you: th-cam.com/video/8kgIp59K1hM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7vvO3celOkOO7K6W
@@FreakingOutWithBillyHumeThanks, will checkout the video and what you have mentioned above.
Autrian Audio O818 pair, the mic i am thinking of buying, has a stereo creator plugin, where in post one can adjust the mic arrangement. LIke M/S, Blumelien or true stereo, but mics are positioned in XY coincidental position. There will be 4 inputs recorded and summed in a quadraphonic track via plugin. I am wondering, if i move, and record any flute, base or small, it might be possible to correct in post, however, it will disrupt workflow and speed of tracking. I think your 2nd point above to have a good sounding room and place mics apart might be a good idea.
Plural of axis is axes, pronounced ax eez.
Thank you
I wish someone would make a video on TH-cam where the guitarist doesn't just strum a g major and d major chord...
th-cam.com/video/8jkXnijgXvM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MhPt1O4uYv1rLwx8
Yeah and usually the tinny steel strung acoustic played with plectrum. Almost nothing on YT on steel wound / nylon strung acoustic played with proper finger style not the awful plastic pick
Would you prefer Am and Cmaj? 😂😂
Tune the guitar.
Thanks for sharing
Who is recording a mix? This is not the 1970s. We're all just bedroom guitarists and TH-cam "content creator" wannabes now, at best/worst. ;-p
I'm not really sure what you are talking about regarding the "recording a mix' comment.