Just found this channel. Like your attitude. When visiting a friend that moved to another state, we had occasion to look for some (alleged) boards at Homeless Despot. Looking at what was supposed to be a 2 x 12, I just said out loud that we burn better lumber than this. Yes, it can get hard to sell it. I had one contractor tell me that he had been apprehensive about using some of the lumber I had milled. Then he saw it and said it was the best he'd ever used. Thing is, we couldn't compete with the box on 2x4's and 2x6's, but you want special sizes? We got you. You want stuff for historic reproductions or restorations? Step right up. 30 foot 1 x 12's? Coming up. Just need more than one or two occasional customers.
Back when I was actively woodworking, it would have been great to have a supplier with the quality product like you have. Because as you said your quality far exceeds anything the local suppliers have. We used to have a place that sold. If I knew more about sales, I would help out but never been my area, that said I think the wholesale idea would work best in you situation. Simply because it would require less time on your part.
Best wishes.i enjoy your videos,they have been very informative and helpful. I imagine a problem with selling is that a lot of builders may require a grade stamp.....anyhow,thanks!
You’re right Mike, this TH-cam stuff is hard work for you but I selfishly say keep doing it when you can please. I really enjoy your forestry management videos that educate me on practical ways to manage a forest. I hope to do what you are doing someday soon, not on that big a scale, but I have loved forestry all my life and will say that I am addicted to any knowledge out there that I can learn on it. Your videos defiantly provide useful and practical information without using a fleet of heavy equipment that you only see on TH-cam. I don’t have the resources nor the need for all that, and you show us ways to be to use the resources we have to accomplish our goals. Sorry, too many words for you to read in the comment, you are too busy to read this anyhow. 😉
If i still lived in my native state of Oregon, I would come TO YOU for such quality lumber. I'd also help you with your distribution problem. Ah, the "if only." Out here in Florida, the "lumber " being sold is so sh!??y it doesn't even make good firewood.
I live in southern Oregon and I think you’re close to here. I’d maybe interested in a large amount for my future shop. But here’s the problem, because I need to do it legally, with permits, then I have to use graded lumber that has a stupid little stamp. Stupid rules…..
I'm in kinda the same boat in eastern washington with the stamping situation. It would be interesting to see how to go through the process of getting a grader to come out and stamp your lumber. Maybe video idea?
you crack me up... I guess I fall into the lumber horder. but I'm in a area near DC and have two 4 lane highways on each side. so fase book market place serves me well. yes i get the ones that come out saying they want alotand bam they buy one 5 ft baord. That's why they come to me while i'm doing my day stuff around the farm. sofar this years it's been a little better than ok. not winning any races.
I have customers asking me if my stuff is like Home Depot or Lowe’s … I tell them nope I can’t compete with them I can’t afford that temu sawmill they have. Good looking stuff there Sir. I’ll be glad when you sell all that stuff so you can get back to milling, setting over here on pause while you sell that lumber ain’t working out too good… I’m bored
I live in South West British Columbia so things might be different in your neck of the woods but high quality lumber is getting harder (and expensive) to find so I look at what you have and see a gold mine. Well to be more precise, an area full of gold that needs to be mined. If you had a smallish warehouse in town with a forklift and one employee to store, ship and direct sell your wood for you, I would think you would do quite well selling wood to people who would want wood.
If you hoard the lumber indoors, decades from now I can imagine the "barn find" ads with exorbitant prices and a story about an eccentric old guy who worked in the woods. 😉
Hopefully you realize how much more fortunate you are than many other people (probably most) in this society. All your videos seem to indicate that you're not in financial distress.
Consider just cutting slabs, and finding a mill/wholesaler who would purchase and further refine the material. A company that could purchase a full or partial semi truck load at a time would be best. Extend the reach out to the midwest if you can not find a buyer on the west coast. Furniture, sheds, cabinets, pole barns, tiny homes etc etc, I would think there would be a great demand for the quality of wood you are producing.
As an Eastern Ontario resident I well remember Dad building a 25’ catamaran in 1973. Finding good lumber was one of the key challenges. Good quality Douglas Fir was the ‘good stuff’ he saved for the critical components. Boatbuilders often want longer lengths though. Perhaps this could be a niche market for you, create a product that just isn’t offering most places. I suspect that there could be enough places that would also be up for buying the bigger load that would make it worthwhile for both parties. Just an idea. Also wondering whether you have any Western Red Cedar on your property? It’s preferred for cedar strip boatbuilding, including the kayak or two I’m hoping to build. My plan A is to try Eastern White Cedar, hopefully miles from trees on my property though.
@@AndrewMoizer I did an experiment, I was planning on building a cedar strip canoe, but whether to use old growth of second growth. I glued two 1/4 " strips together of each suspended the ends and loaded a 5 gallon bucket between them with a 50 lb weight in the bucket. the second growth was 20% stronger due to glue penetration.
I guess the question would be what do you want to do? Do you enjoy logging and sawing lumber and would like to do it instead of all the side-work of selling and transporting? If you are not able to do what you want to do then find a way you can. I'm not sure how well you do with partners because everything I've seen so far (except for your dad) has been a solo endeavor. There is someone out there who can help you do it all, you just haven't found them yet.
just yesterday saw another TH-camr saying he could either fully work in his business or do less and more youtubing but then struggle with finding ads and patreon and stuff. you are not alone in finding out that TH-cam is not allways good for business.
Just an Idea? Perhaps a Boy Scout “Eagle scout” looking for a little income for troop activity, could help you sell your wood? It probably wouldn’t be as lucrative as their cans of Christmas POPCORN they sell, but it’ll burn more calories.
Seriously makes you wonder about modern society, where it makes more sense to prioritize a modest sized TH-cam channel more than selling already harvested, milled, and dried lumber. Mr. Wilson is indeed charming, but is this really how economics should be arranged?
I could make the counterargument that many people learning a thing or two from this channel (even if it’s mindset) doesn’t sound so bad. The students can then do the building.
Having run several businesses I can say you cannot do it all. You need a director of marketing who would mostly wholesale your products to local Lumber yards. That frees you from running here and there for small retail sales. Then you do what you do best.
I know you like to keep your location on the down-low. I get that, but if you want to be effective at recruiting that reseller, you could be a little more clear on what "Town" means. Grant's Pass? Roseburg? Florence? Eugene? Portland? Not that I'm gonna do anything for it. Nope. Too lazy. I just watch videos all day long.
@mikeingeorgia1 You can pay someone who is a licensed grader to come and do so, but of course that's expensive. You can use the ungraded wood for some structures like sheds and small things that don't need a permit. Not sure what he's doing.
Couldn't you still cut down trees and skid them with the tractor but lower your production? I understand the lumber market issue and sawing being kind of pointless now but you gained your viewers from them watching you do these activities. We didnt start watching because we thought you were making a fortune or to see your overall lumber production. Like you getting a log like that big cedar in the canyon out was very impressive. It had a lot of viewing angles, great rigging setup, etc. I just think with editing etc you could get more content from less logging and sawing. We don't know how many trees you cut or boards you saw. We don't see what you saw.
It's not planed, graded, or stamped. You are limiting the customers. That all adds to the cost. Leave the lumber making to the professionals. I speak from experience. Unless you just like making lumber to stack up.
It still needs to be planned. Gloves are required when moving it from one location to the next, and the unnerving racket is required when sliding and stacking it!
So now I know. The title of your video misled me big time. My mistake. I was hoping (expecting) a serious point of view. Total baloney (that is a semi-polite term for something else). Fool me once............
Nothing warms the heart more than a wholesome tale about a young lad working at a yumbeyard.
The yumbeyard takes no prisoners you learn quick to not show weakness
A loung yad, that is!
“ home depot stock “. The ring of truth makes that even funnier. 😂
Just found this channel. Like your attitude. When visiting a friend that moved to another state, we had occasion to look for some (alleged) boards at Homeless Despot. Looking at what was supposed to be a 2 x 12, I just said out loud that we burn better lumber than this. Yes, it can get hard to sell it. I had one contractor tell me that he had been apprehensive about using some of the lumber I had milled. Then he saw it and said it was the best he'd ever used. Thing is, we couldn't compete with the box on 2x4's and 2x6's, but you want special sizes? We got you. You want stuff for historic reproductions or restorations? Step right up. 30 foot 1 x 12's? Coming up. Just need more than one or two occasional customers.
I love Wilson. He’s a beautiful human. I’m glad to share time on God’s great earth with Wilson. 🙂
you just need to sell them online. but be sure to have enough bandwidth to make sure the boards don't get stuck in the tubes.
I don't know, but over seeing that beautiful field of trees is a great view
Beautiful Doug fir is so precious. Even this generation's.
Dude sounds like Buster Scruggs. Lol.
Love it.
Love your videos.
He sings like buster Keaton
OMG yes it is IRL Buster Scruggs!
brings back memories of spending almost an hour digging thru 2x4's at Menards to find a few straight ones......................
It's the 8h of sleep that slows you down. 😅
Back when I was actively woodworking, it would have been great to have a supplier with the quality product like you have. Because as you said your quality far exceeds anything the local suppliers have. We used to have a place that sold.
If I knew more about sales, I would help out but never been my area, that said I think the wholesale idea would work best in you situation. Simply because it would require less time on your part.
Don't EVER lose your sense of humor!!!
1:40 " which , I have neither of those 3 things " 😄
Earthquake! 😂🤙🤺🦦🤔☝️🦶. Yeah that’s a good, but it’s also a Fart in the Face! 🤔Quality? 🍦👍
Best wishes.i enjoy your videos,they have been very informative and helpful.
I imagine a problem with selling is that a lot of builders may require a grade stamp.....anyhow,thanks!
We started out pairing up with a local construction materials store to sell our lumber and slabs
Hopefully you'll work out the way to selling your lumber, so you can get back to other tasks. Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Lovely trees you have there. Strong nice-looking boards. Nicely-lathed and tarped lumber piles. Yup, you need customers. Amazon??
Thank you, always interesting and informative, merry Christmas.
You’re right Mike, this TH-cam stuff is hard work for you but I selfishly say keep doing it when you can please. I really enjoy your forestry management videos that educate me on practical ways to manage a forest. I hope to do what you are doing someday soon, not on that big a scale, but I have loved forestry all my life and will say that I am addicted to any knowledge out there that I can learn on it. Your videos defiantly provide useful and practical information without using a fleet of heavy equipment that you only see on TH-cam. I don’t have the resources nor the need for all that, and you show us ways to be to use the resources we have to accomplish our goals.
Sorry, too many words for you to read in the comment, you are too busy to read this anyhow.
😉
You felt That fart? Earthquake? 🤔Luckily it was not in the Video! 😂🤙. He’s got good Wood! 👍
I love your altitude
If i still lived in my native state of Oregon, I would come TO YOU for such quality lumber. I'd also help you with your distribution problem. Ah, the "if only." Out here in Florida, the "lumber " being sold is so sh!??y it doesn't even make good firewood.
You could ask the bears if they would give you a hand, they have lots of spare time.
I live in southern Oregon and I think you’re close to here. I’d maybe interested in a large amount for my future shop. But here’s the problem, because I need to do it legally, with permits, then I have to use graded lumber that has a stupid little stamp. Stupid rules…..
Isn't getting the certification for the stamp pretty easy? Sort of?
Not sure if you can certify your own stash however.
Have you looked into whether a structural engineer can sign off on the lumber?
I'm in kinda the same boat in eastern washington with the stamping situation. It would be interesting to see how to go through the process of getting a grader to come out and stamp your lumber. Maybe video idea?
You left out another possibility: a lumber hoarder therapy TH-cam channel.
Your more of a land restoration person by a long run anyways 🤷🏽♂️ your very good at what you do regarding wood
Look into upgrading your sawmill. An LT28 is the sweetspot to help you be more profitable, with a few mods.
Awesome video!
Wilson, the Slimeylimey has it right, you need a young lady at a small biz to sell your lumber in a big town.
you crack me up... I guess I fall into the lumber horder. but I'm in a area near DC and have two 4 lane highways on each side. so fase book market place serves me well. yes i get the ones that come out saying they want alotand bam they buy one 5 ft baord. That's why they come to me while i'm doing my day stuff around the farm. sofar this years it's been a little better than ok. not winning any races.
I have customers asking me if my stuff is like Home Depot or Lowe’s … I tell them nope I can’t compete with them I can’t afford that temu sawmill they have. Good looking stuff there Sir.
I’ll be glad when you sell all that stuff so you can get back to milling, setting over here on pause while you sell that lumber ain’t working out too good… I’m bored
I know you have to do what you have to do, just know we th viewers will miss you.
Michael, what is the name of the town where buyers are? And who typically are the buyers for that type of unstamped lumber. I have some ideas.
I live in South West British Columbia so things might be different in your neck of the woods but high quality lumber is getting harder (and expensive) to find so I look at what you have and see a gold mine. Well to be more precise, an area full of gold that needs to be mined. If you had a smallish warehouse in town with a forklift and one employee to store, ship and direct sell your wood for you, I would think you would do quite well selling wood to people who would want wood.
Lumber that is used for construction has to have an engineers stamp in many socialist areas
Yumberlards unite!
If you hoard the lumber indoors, decades from now I can imagine the "barn find" ads with exorbitant prices and a story about an eccentric old guy who worked in the woods. 😉
You can do a video of selling lumber.
Your wood looks very nice and super straight. What do you use to stack that really tall stickered stack?
Hope for a 25% tariff on Canadian lumber?
Are larger sizes for timber framed homes more popular or is there not really the demand?
Hopefully you realize how much more fortunate you are than many other people (probably most) in this society. All your videos seem to indicate that you're not in financial distress.
Time to sell some lumber,we will be here on the TH-cam channel waiting for you
No problem, we are hanging tight. Sell your wood and relax.
So the crooked boards go on the right. Sounds familiar. 🙃
Except there ain't a whole lot straight on the left.
Sounds like you need some lumber support.
I'm headed to your area, i think.
Do you have access to port orford cedar?
Where are you located and what do you need to sell?
Consider just cutting slabs, and finding a mill/wholesaler who would purchase and further refine the material. A company that could purchase a full or partial semi truck load at a time would be best. Extend the reach out to the midwest if you can not find a buyer on the west coast. Furniture, sheds, cabinets, pole barns, tiny homes etc etc, I would think there would be a great demand for the quality of wood you are producing.
Real life Buster Scruggs!
As an Eastern Ontario resident I well remember Dad building a 25’ catamaran in 1973. Finding good lumber was one of the key challenges. Good quality Douglas Fir was the ‘good stuff’ he saved for the critical components. Boatbuilders often want longer lengths though. Perhaps this could be a niche market for you, create a product that just isn’t offering most places. I suspect that there could be enough places that would also be up for buying the bigger load that would make it worthwhile for both parties. Just an idea.
Also wondering whether you have any Western Red Cedar on your property? It’s preferred for cedar strip boatbuilding, including the kayak or two I’m hoping to build. My plan A is to try Eastern White Cedar, hopefully miles from trees on my property though.
@@AndrewMoizer I did an experiment, I was planning on building a cedar strip canoe, but whether to use old growth of second growth. I glued two 1/4 " strips together of each suspended the ends and loaded a 5 gallon bucket between them with a 50 lb weight in the bucket. the second growth was 20% stronger due to glue penetration.
Speaking of money, that trailer is full of wood. Does it have a good net profit value?
I guess the question would be what do you want to do? Do you enjoy logging and sawing lumber and would like to do it instead of all the side-work of selling and transporting? If you are not able to do what you want to do then find a way you can. I'm not sure how well you do with partners because everything I've seen so far (except for your dad) has been a solo endeavor. There is someone out there who can help you do it all, you just haven't found them yet.
When are you going to build a cabin with all that wood ?
Yup.
just yesterday saw another TH-camr saying he could either fully work in his business or do less and more youtubing but then struggle with finding ads and patreon and stuff. you are not alone in finding out that TH-cam is not allways good for business.
Just an Idea? Perhaps a Boy Scout “Eagle scout” looking for a little income for troop activity, could help you sell your wood? It probably wouldn’t be as lucrative as their cans of Christmas POPCORN they sell, but it’ll burn more calories.
Nice hat sir. Is it an Akubra?
If you have the quality for it, aviation lumber might be a niche for you.
Wow!
Seriously makes you wonder about modern society, where it makes more sense to prioritize a modest sized TH-cam channel more than selling already harvested, milled, and dried lumber. Mr. Wilson is indeed charming, but is this really how economics should be arranged?
I could make the counterargument that many people learning a thing or two from this channel (even if it’s mindset) doesn’t sound so bad. The students can then do the building.
Home Depot: Selling 'character' for decades.
LHA - Lumber Hoarders Anonymous 😂
6:07 glitch in the matrix, your piles are morphing
Where are you located?
But the big problem is, that if you quit logging and milling, then you won’t have any content for TH-cam🤔
👍
that board's not home depot stock. it has too many corners.
Would your mom be interested in selling boards for you 😅?
Having run several businesses I can say you cannot do it all. You need a director of marketing who would mostly wholesale your products to local Lumber yards. That frees you from running here and there for small retail sales. Then you do what you do best.
My timing is always off, I want a truckload of siding but have property at the coast that needs to sell first😢
Argh..
I'd go with the therapy. 😄
Your main problem is, you need to earn a living. If you can free yourself from that, your problems would disappear!🤩
I know you like to keep your location on the down-low. I get that, but if you want to be effective at recruiting that reseller, you could be a little more clear on what "Town" means. Grant's Pass? Roseburg? Florence? Eugene? Portland? Not that I'm gonna do anything for it. Nope. Too lazy. I just watch videos all day long.
Everybody wants kiln dried , i just wanted a few extra dollars to help with retirement, i may need to enroll in your therapy course
Does your dad sell lumber from his yard , maybe he could sell yours too ?
And there's the matter of no grade stamp. Something even the worst board at HD has.
I’ve heard that to use lumber for a house, it needed to have a grade stamp. How would one go about getting that?
@mikeingeorgia1 You can pay someone who is a licensed grader to come and do so, but of course that's expensive. You can use the ungraded wood for some structures like sheds and small things that don't need a permit. Not sure what he's doing.
sounds like you need a wholesaler......
Hd is c grade for sure. Ever heard of lowes.. fgrade
Couldn't you still cut down trees and skid them with the tractor but lower your production? I understand the lumber market issue and sawing being kind of pointless now but you gained your viewers from them watching you do these activities. We didnt start watching because we thought you were making a fortune or to see your overall lumber production. Like you getting a log like that big cedar in the canyon out was very impressive. It had a lot of viewing angles, great rigging setup, etc.
I just think with editing etc you could get more content from less logging and sawing. We don't know how many trees you cut or boards you saw. We don't see what you saw.
Rich guy problems.
You are thinking too hard . You are going to hurt yourself
This is like Andy Rooney on acid.
The solution is to build Stuff. Tiny houses or chicken coops.
It's not planed, graded, or stamped. You are limiting the customers. That all adds to the cost. Leave the lumber making to the professionals. I speak from experience. Unless you just like making lumber to stack up.
Your statement is blunt but it is true.
It still needs to be planned. Gloves are required when moving it from one location to the next, and the unnerving racket is required when sliding and stacking it!
hey michael, why not take youtube camera on sales, just a thought.
God bless,matthew6:33, proverbs3:5
Matt 7:7 comes to mind along with Phil 4:13 & 19 :D
sell your wood as an assembled house
why do you sound permanently sarcastic no matter what you're saying ?
Same thought.
It's the bears fault!
@ instant classic right there!
That's not sarcasm, it's the Pacific Northwest accent. 😅
@@lesahanners5057 Yup, all us Oregonians have that flat sarcastic twang, it's because of the rain.
So now I know. The title of your video misled me big time. My mistake. I was hoping (expecting) a serious point of view. Total baloney (that is a semi-polite term for something else). Fool me once............