Not sure why so many people sleep on the J. It already makes 290-305 hp stock is super reliable and they cost like nothing. People will spend crazy money to get a K or another 4 cylinder build to 350 400 hp and at that point reliability is nothing compared stock to a cheap stock J swap. Sure it's like 100 pounds heavier doesnt rev high and is a van motor at its heart but its cheap reliable horsepower.
It's because at the end of the day, the J swap still isn't as refined, doesn't fit as well(oil pan clearance) and the aftermarket is practically non existent. The K's make similar power figures with less headaches in the end. Reliability has never been an issue for sub 500hp K series either, go ask Haltech. Really, the only benefit a J has is the low end torque and sound. Ks are in some of the fastest proper race cars in the world for a reason.
@@Catbus-Driver there is a new company making another kit for the j swap and it seems to be going awesome from the teases posted. The j is starting to pick up aftermarket wise as well. As of right now, you need to look deeply a tad bit, but can definitely find some aftermarket support for it. There's also some examples of these engines being turbocharged without touching internals and reaching about 800whp iirc
@@Catbus-Driver agree with everything but the K's making similar power figures. Making a K series touch 300whp without internals, porting, and 1-2k of mods isn't happening. If you mean turbo/sc'ing them, well we got an issue there too. Stock internals on a K will go to 500? A stock internal j32a2 has been pushed to 700whp on just north of 20lbs, I can even link you the post where I asked specifically for peoples builds and they spammed me with about 10+ builds of the j32/j35 1st gens making 500-600whp reliably. So.. yeah. But what would you expect? They're both amazingly made engines with high hp/liter from fucking honda, and of course the 6 cylinder is gonna outpace the 4 cylinder. It seriously is a crying shame the J series doesn't have more aftermarket support. The OEM parts are so interchangable, widely available, and (decently) cheap compared to other widely used v6's on the market it kinda makes up for it, but compared to the K it's apples compared to turbo'd, 1000hp oranges.
@@TheBradszone I worded my original comment a bit poorly. I was more so meaning as a direct swap into a miata chassis. The J has more potential, but you need to buy a pretty expensive ecu to get access to that power. My friends J32 swapped NB made just over 230whp on a dyno using a stock Honda ecu. Same day, same dyno, a freshly swapped K24 NA made just a few less on a cheap Ktuner base tune, obviously not nearly as much torque tho lol. If there was an affordable ecu option for the J that allowed tuning, I think it would be a lot more close in terms of what swap is better. You laid it out perfectly tho, the J is a monster and I really do wish it had more aftermarket support behind it.
Man with all these different Miata combos.... you’re really making me want to drive to CT & let you rip my ls2 Miata! I’m in MD, I’m not too far away :)
Is there a build thread on this, highly considering this swap later. Good cheap reliable power but the oil pan clearance I've seen seems to be the issue.
Two questions about the build: Any subframe cracks due to weird J series mounting? How's the oil pan clearance with your ride height? Those were my 2 main issues with a J series swap.
I have the complete j32 set up for a miata brand new never started...its for sale with 5 speed trans and mini tec adaptor plate fully assembled all new everything
picking up my BRAND NEW J32 for $300 tomorrow! I didn't even know about this swap until yesterday. Friend showed me an ad for $200 NEW J32's... so naturally I searched "J32 Miata" and found your videos on this... WOW! this is going to be fun I'm stoked :D
So how would you compare this car to Tommy's car? Is the extra weight over the front of the car very detrimental to the handling? Which would you prefer tracking? K or J?
Never driven a K but weight wise this is same as miata engine taken out. Aluminum block vs iron makes a large difference. And lighter than any turbo 1.8 miata. Of course turbo K is probably similar weight and more power.
lol lol your talking to the owner of the car... plus ya know do some actual research and you see from the people who make the kit that it’s only about 10lbs heavier after installing the kit.
Man I've been dying to see a miata with the a V6 from the current gen camaro. They sound great and make a little more power than the previous. I'm sure they are hard to come by at this time though but im sure in a few years they'll be popping up in junk yards.
If the Honda J-Series is so good in a rear wheel drive layout, why aren’t we seeing these more often in cars like the Triumph 2000 or Austin Westminster?
Bruh. It’s always just been that “plan in the works” to finally get a yata. So that I can stop hooning my 2000 Jetta tdi 5 speed like its actually got power. (It is a great car for practicing my weight transfer on, “steering with the pedals”) But now that I’m older, I also know I’m gonna want more power 😆. So I’ve been steadily researching which “path to power” that I want to take once I have the car, then the money. I had narrowed it down to a used roots/screw supercharger, a K swap , a mild 1.8 NA build (~140Hp) or some wild big swap like an LS, wankel, or some bike engine. But now I’m 95% set on the jV6 route. Game plan: obtain shitbox NA/B source a helical differential and an FC Rx7’s beefier differential mounting. Enjoy my yata as I source a totaled donor car. Gonna use the stock ECU cause I’m a cheapo, I hope it’s an accord sport at least 😂🤞. But it would be a tls engine and ecu in a perfect world. Then either try and fab my own swap hardware or buy that really nice pre-engineered kit. And either way just enjoy the involved labor of love, in doing what mazda should have in the first place 😁. Or just wuss out and get a roots supercharger, so I can just tune for a hopefully similar torque and put rods in if need be. Either way my goal is a fun car to drive foremost. with the amount of power the car needs to be a “real” sports car, while not trying to make the car something it wasn’t meant to be.
Please do a proper review on a v6 miata without passenger weight and sticky tires PLEASE. The J series & LFX engine miatas don't get enough attention at all.
So every miata owner with a roll bar should be wearing a helmet on the street? The street is much more dangerous than this 2nd gear track with hundreds of feet of runoff.
Matt Wiser I agree. My biggest fear I’m my miatas is getting rear ended & the roll bar gets pushed into my skull. Don’t gotta worry about that happening during this video!
I have that engine in my accord.... just need a Miata
Start hunting for a car...Just the opposite here, just need the Honda J32A2
Same here 2006 accord 6speed
This version of the Miata is really epic!.. that engine sound is just the bomb!
Not sure why so many people sleep on the J. It already makes 290-305 hp stock is super reliable and they cost like nothing. People will spend crazy money to get a K or another 4 cylinder build to 350 400 hp and at that point reliability is nothing compared stock to a cheap stock J swap. Sure it's like 100 pounds heavier doesnt rev high and is a van motor at its heart but its cheap reliable horsepower.
It's because at the end of the day, the J swap still isn't as refined, doesn't fit as well(oil pan clearance) and the aftermarket is practically non existent. The K's make similar power figures with less headaches in the end. Reliability has never been an issue for sub 500hp K series either, go ask Haltech.
Really, the only benefit a J has is the low end torque and sound. Ks are in some of the fastest proper race cars in the world for a reason.
@@Catbus-Driver The J is save now, pay later. A good K is pay now, save later. Usually a better end product too.
@@Catbus-Driver there is a new company making another kit for the j swap and it seems to be going awesome from the teases posted. The j is starting to pick up aftermarket wise as well. As of right now, you need to look deeply a tad bit, but can definitely find some aftermarket support for it. There's also some examples of these engines being turbocharged without touching internals and reaching about 800whp iirc
@@Catbus-Driver agree with everything but the K's making similar power figures. Making a K series touch 300whp without internals, porting, and 1-2k of mods isn't happening. If you mean turbo/sc'ing them, well we got an issue there too. Stock internals on a K will go to 500? A stock internal j32a2 has been pushed to 700whp on just north of 20lbs, I can even link you the post where I asked specifically for peoples builds and they spammed me with about 10+ builds of the j32/j35 1st gens making 500-600whp reliably. So.. yeah. But what would you expect? They're both amazingly made engines with high hp/liter from fucking honda, and of course the 6 cylinder is gonna outpace the 4 cylinder.
It seriously is a crying shame the J series doesn't have more aftermarket support. The OEM parts are so interchangable, widely available, and (decently) cheap compared to other widely used v6's on the market it kinda makes up for it, but compared to the K it's apples compared to turbo'd, 1000hp oranges.
@@TheBradszone I worded my original comment a bit poorly. I was more so meaning as a direct swap into a miata chassis. The J has more potential, but you need to buy a pretty expensive ecu to get access to that power. My friends J32 swapped NB made just over 230whp on a dyno using a stock Honda ecu. Same day, same dyno, a freshly swapped K24 NA made just a few less on a cheap Ktuner base tune, obviously not nearly as much torque tho lol.
If there was an affordable ecu option for the J that allowed tuning, I think it would be a lot more close in terms of what swap is better. You laid it out perfectly tho, the J is a monster and I really do wish it had more aftermarket support behind it.
Man with all these different Miata combos.... you’re really making me want to drive to CT & let you rip my ls2 Miata! I’m in MD, I’m not too far away :)
Let's make that happen!
The Slip Angle I’ll send ya a dm :)
The Slip Angle sent :) sorry for the delay!
Would love to see the kmiata vs jv6 miata. Cool video🤙
We need someone else to offer up a K!
Dammit I had a k24a2 motor in my garage but sold it, I would of gave it to you Quinn if you payed shipping lol
Is there a build thread on this, highly considering this swap later. Good cheap reliable power but the oil pan clearance I've seen seems to be the issue.
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO!!
Yes!
Two questions about the build: Any subframe cracks due to weird J series mounting? How's the oil pan clearance with your ride height? Those were my 2 main issues with a J series swap.
Mine too. Friend got in an accident in his TL and might sell it to me cheap, but I love the low life lol
Such an underrated channel!
Thank you! 🙌
I have the engine & miata just need to get it in!
Ahh Lime Rock...spent many a summer there
v6s make a great noise...and honda ones are super reliable go on go get one...
...fun as always QuInn..
your a lucky guy...
N x
Quinn secretly loves to drift more than grip
🤫🤫🤫
Wait, that was supposed to be a secret? 🤣
I have the complete j32 set up for a miata brand new never started...its for sale with 5 speed trans and mini tec adaptor plate fully assembled all new everything
Any reason why you haven't used it?
How much
@@simuliwabuyele9545 I could not fit it in my 75 toyota hilux .i work at mini tec
@@theparrot8414 $3.500
it also has .drive shaft completely wired and programmed computer
Happy to see you drive this again on a dry day.
That track seems mad chill
picking up my BRAND NEW J32 for $300 tomorrow! I didn't even know about this swap until yesterday. Friend showed me an ad for $200 NEW J32's... so naturally I searched "J32 Miata" and found your videos on this... WOW! this is going to be fun I'm stoked :D
So how would you compare this car to Tommy's car? Is the extra weight over the front of the car very detrimental to the handling? Which would you prefer tracking? K or J?
Never driven a K but weight wise this is same as miata engine taken out. Aluminum block vs iron makes a large difference. And lighter than any turbo 1.8 miata. Of course turbo K is probably similar weight and more power.
@@thomasrudnicki1333 i think the v6 is still quite a bit heavier than the iron block 4. I think youre wrong about that
@@lollol-xp4mc well you haven't looked into it properly
@@lollol-xp4mc I trust Thomas's opinion because he actually owns the car, unlike you
lol lol your talking to the owner of the car... plus ya know do some actual research and you see from the people who make the kit that it’s only about 10lbs heavier after installing the kit.
Thanks for sharing!
Any time!
Thing rips
🤙🤙🤙
Do the j series on the red Miata with v8 tubular control arms, and no rear sway
I hope one day my Miata will have enough power to drift 😂
The dream!
Just put old winter tyres on power wont be an issue 😃
Love your car! I would love to do some track racing one day. How does one get onto limerock?
So...When's the j-swap build series?
Nothing like steering with the rear, bud. My favorite way to drive.
Nothing more fun!
I’ve been watching ftr1200 sound clips all week. Looking forward to some hooliganism involving that! 😉
I didn't think anyone cared! Lmao 🤣
Haha, Quinn is DK, especially in this car!
Dammit, that’s the video that seals the deal for the swap, Honda v6, or Chevy v6? Ahhhhhh
Man I've been dying to see a miata with the a V6 from the current gen camaro. They sound great and make a little more power than the previous. I'm sure they are hard to come by at this time though but im sure in a few years they'll be popping up in junk yards.
If the Honda J-Series is so good in a rear wheel drive layout, why aren’t we seeing these more often in cars like the Triumph 2000 or Austin Westminster?
k or j? that's a question...
Both!
Bruh. It’s always just been that “plan in the works” to finally get a yata. So that I can stop hooning my 2000 Jetta tdi 5 speed like its actually got power. (It is a great car for practicing my weight transfer on, “steering with the pedals”)
But now that I’m older, I also know I’m gonna want more power 😆. So I’ve been steadily researching which “path to power” that I want to take once I have the car, then the money.
I had narrowed it down to a used roots/screw supercharger, a K swap , a mild 1.8 NA build (~140Hp) or some wild big swap like an LS, wankel, or some bike engine. But now I’m 95% set on the jV6 route.
Game plan:
obtain shitbox NA/B
source a helical differential and an FC Rx7’s beefier differential mounting.
Enjoy my yata as I source a totaled donor car. Gonna use the stock ECU cause I’m a cheapo, I hope it’s an accord sport at least 😂🤞. But it would be a tls engine and ecu in a perfect world.
Then either try and fab my own swap hardware or buy that really nice pre-engineered kit. And either way just enjoy the involved labor of love, in doing what mazda should have in the first place 😁.
Or just wuss out and get a roots supercharger, so I can just tune for a hopefully similar torque and put rods in if need be.
Either way my goal is a fun car to drive foremost. with the amount of power the car needs to be a “real” sports car, while not trying to make the car something it wasn’t meant to be.
Not looking forward to wiring the car back up in a swap tho 😭
👩🎤hell yeah
Please do a proper review on a v6 miata without passenger weight and sticky tires PLEASE. The J series & LFX engine miatas don't get enough attention at all.
no helmet......... and a rollbar.. smart. :(
So every miata owner with a roll bar should be wearing a helmet on the street? The street is much more dangerous than this 2nd gear track with hundreds of feet of runoff.
Wahhh
Matt Wiser I agree. My biggest fear I’m my miatas is getting rear ended & the roll bar gets pushed into my skull. Don’t gotta worry about that happening during this video!
helmet could be worse without a hans device, at least in a frontal impact :/
Konigs/poopy pads and tires/NRG steering wheel & hub - very cringe