The collective efforts of the Madkhali and Super Salafi movements contribute immensely to the preservation of tyranny amongst the Muslim world, hence putting them on the wishlist of every tyrant. This piece explores the details. Thumbnail Designer: Alireza Zabihi (AlirezaAlFarsi@gmail.com) #brohajji #shamsi #madkhali
I'm not sure if they're secularists. They're shadeed against the muslim awaam (calling them mushrikh or mubtadi) and soft upon the leaders. One could argue they are what they accuse the believers of🤷🏻♂️
@BroHajji Allama Rabīʿ bin Hādī ʿUmayr al Madkhalī was the Dean of the Sunnah Studies Department at the Islamic University of Madinah. Contemporary Salafi/Athari/Ahl-Hadith Scholars such as: Muhammad Nasiruddin al-Albani, Abd al-Aziz ibn Baz, Saleh Al-Fawzan, Muhammad ibn al-Uthaymeen, Muqbil bin Hadi al-Wadi'i, Abdul-Muhsin Al-Abbad, Muhammad Amin Al-Shanqiti, Saleh Al-Iraqi Abdul-Ghaffar Hasan Al-Hindi, as well as the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia have ALL PRAISED his works and considered him to be the LEADER of Islamic Historical Sciences such as Al-Jarh wa-l-Ta’dil. As a matter of fact, Allama Al-Albani [the leader of Hadith studies in the 21st Century] regarded Sheikh Rabīʿ al Madkhalī to be “the carrier of the flag of [knowledge] of Jarh wa Ta'deel in our contemporary times." As such, the criticism of people like yourself #brohajji are of absolutely no worth on the matter. I do not think you can name me a SINGLE SALAFI scholar from our contemporary times that has earned the praise of such highly reputed scholars [as listed above]. As a matter of fact, I CHALLENGE you to name me a SINGLE SALAFi scholar [of our time] that has earned the praise of so many elite scholars [as listed above], and I GURANTEE you, that you will not be able to produce it. A quburi/ikhwani type hizbi like your self #brohajji have failed in their attempt to muster anything knowledgeable against Shaykh Dr. Rabee... AlhamduLiLaah 🔹 In conclusion, if compared to Sheikh/Dr. Rabi, you [BroHajji] at best would qualify as a ruwaibidi donkey, a caller to Hell. * It should also be noted that the mashayikh [scholars] mentioned above such as: ibn al Uthaymeen, bin Baz, al-Albani and Rabee are not in and of themselves absolute authorities or "hujjat" for a matter in religion... rather the evidence or hujjat is to be found in the sources that these scholars provide us with in their works... as such there is to be absolutely no blind following any scholar exclusively... rather according to ALL the SCHOLARS mentioned above, we are OBLIGATED to seek and follow the most authentic cited evidences that the scholars provide... regardless of which scholar the more authenticated evidence is found with...
There is nothing called Wahabiya, there is tawheed and shariah of Allah which truth, then there is Tawheed mixed with democracy which is falsehood. There is also grave worshippers which is falsehood. There is removing Islam from Politics which is falsehood. Do my statements contradict with Islam?
The comparison between the pseudo-salafi madkhalis and the protestants is actually pretty accurate, especially with regards to their history in England during the reign of King Henry the 8th.Many of the pseudo-salafis, not just the madkhalis, seem to be less interested in understanding the Deen as it was understood by the actual Salaf and use the title "salafi" and their empty claims of following the way of the Salaf to give legitimacy to their misguided actions and beliefs. Also, they seem to have an overreliance on Sheikh ibn Taymiyyah, who was a man of great knowledge and piety, however, to be fair, he also had views that were controversial and that went against the ijmaa' of the Ulama, including his division of the concept of Tawhid into three separate types. This was an invention of his.
He's an undercover "Zandeeq" , wishing a prison sentence on your muslim brother just because he's moving against the Political movements of a kingdom that has a black history within that gulf region , حسبنا الله و نعم الوكيل، الله يجمعنا وإياك في جنات النعيم
Allah(swt) was very clear in the Quran “And he who does not judge according to what Allah has revealed, then they are the disbelievers” (Qur’an, 5:47) Anyone who says other than this or tries to change this is most likely being manipulated by a corrupt ruler to come with a strange interpretation. Full Stop. This verse is directly for rules like MBS.
The discussion shamsi had with the guy was that the guy said he fled Saudi Arabia because of the evil he saw but what shamsi was arguing is why go to the uk when it is much worse here the guy could had gone to Mecca or madinah were these lands are sacred shamsi was trying to put sense on the guy at first and honestly it don’t make sense why come to the uk if you want do hajr and the guy was using the companies of the prophet as examples when they want to Ethiopia but it’s not the same because the uk are like the times of the people of lut shamsi was just exposing him and he did that for example shamsi asked him what is the worst thing to do in the eyes of allah and the Saudi guy said tawheed then shamsi corrected him and said shirk if the guy really was a practicing Muslim as he claims then he would know the basic of Islam.
I always says basically they want muslim to be pre-revolution france, obey the king even the king as if he was ruling by the bible even though it's not. History is showing itself what kind of people they are. And it's actually interesting to see the comparison.
SA What are the differences between Salafi and Athari ? I am trying to find my way in terms of correctly following the Sunna and avoiding Bida. I just read Ibn Tamiya’s book Friends of Allah vs Friends of Shaytan which really opened my eyes
There’s practically no difference between the two. But you’ll find that salafis that don’t want to be lumped with extreme salafis like shamsi calling themselves atharis
@@Shiroyashasamathere are some distinct differences between them. Although I do agree atharee creed comes across as more acceptable and softer. Two major issues they both have in common is they heavily oppose any traditional aqidah from ashari or maturidi. Secondly they oppose following taqleed of one specific madhab.
Neo-salafism does tend to attract simpletons. May Allah elevate them and create the opportunities for them to appreciate the vast ocean of ilm outside the descendants of desert bandits.
@@chef4823 by his elder brother, Sulayman ibn Abdul Wahhab (rahimahullah) فصل الخطاب في الرد على محمد بن عبد الوهاب There is an anecdote about his coming across a woman who is calling upon a saint and he corrects her (without declaring her a mushrika) knowing full well that the woman does not believe the saint to share in any of the attributes of Allah. It was simple ignorance. His brother, on the other hand, developed modern day takfirism. Before MIAW, find some authoritative ulema that the ummah agree upon who held that a mere action indicating what comes close to shirk is enough to kill a man, and take his wife and children as slaves.
Wow i Can’t tolerante these madkhalis makin fitna amongst muslim i use to listen to then ended to only listen to sp and few other scholars May Allah help them
They say we have to obey leaders even when they are oppressive, but they forget it is not leaders who are ruling by other than Shariah of Allah. Once twagheet laws are used to rule, then obviously the person on charge is a Murtad by fundamental principles of Islam hence not an Ameer of Mumineen. The title of Muslim leaders is Khalifa, Sahabas referred their Khalifa's as Ameerul Moomineen , we know it through Seerah of Prophet Muhammad and Sahabas and that is the deen we are obliged to follow, not the deen of new interpretations which rules out a requirement of Khilaafah. Islam makes it clear, democracy is a system of laws of Taghut and its rulers are none other but followers of Firaun , Nimrood, AbuJahl and likes of them. None of the prophets and messengers of Allah peace and blessings of Allah be upon them obeyed those rulers but on the contrary they rebelled against them and did not give their allegiance to them so did the followers of Prophets and Messengers in their time. We are the followers of Prophet Muhammad and He Salalaahu Alayhi Wassallam rejected Taghut and we are supposed to do the same if we follow his way. But if we are hypocrites and make claims then know that nothing is hidden from Allah and no one can deceive Allah Subhanawatallah and Fear Allah's punishment in this life and in the hereafter.
Allah’s Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم said, “There shall be rulers whom you will recognise from them good and evil. Whoever opposes them is saved (also narrated as “whoever rejects with his tongue will be innocent”589). Whoever abandons them is freed. And whoever intermingles with them is destroyed.” Ibn Abi Shaybah and at-Tabarani Authenticated by shaykh Al Albani
Salafis "We follow quran and hadith akhiiiiii and the way of the salaf akhiii" Me "What madhab do you follow brother " "We follow the way of the salaf akhii!" I give him a fiqh question. " albani said this ..... ibn taymiyah said this ... bin baz said that " ...... .... ........ Point is they hide behind the Quran and sunnhah banner when really they just promote their sheikhs and only take from their books Same with the extreme sufis...
Bro Hajji. We need to sit. 25 years I wasted with the Madkhali Salafis. 25 years. They are extremely weak in knowledge and keep dividing amongst themselves. They messed up in each of the 3 categories of Tawheed and how to study and research Fiqh. And purification of the soul is even worse as they believe they are the saved sect so don’t rectify themselves and mock those that do give it attention.
القومية العربية الأولى في الثورة العربية الكبرى من صناعة (لورنس) و(ستورز) الإنجليزيين. والقومية العربية الثانية في عهد جمال عبدالناصر من صناعة (كيرميت روزفلت) و(مايلز كوبلند) الأمريكيين!
Brother Hajj may Allah guide you. You need to mature enough also. You're doing nothing for this Umah but to spread Hate and Misguiding Muslims. Fear Allah life it's too short
People don’t understand the difference…. They say these brothers teach the pure creed… and when they see someone who brings actual knowledge they’re like: “but what about brother so and so doing so and so”… the controversy and and “defending Islam from the innovators” become the focal point and the part they desire… if you ask me it’s no different from Haakimiyyah… they have made fitnah a principle by which salafiyyah is upheld…
There is a saying: Allah have mercy on the one who knows his limitations. Unfortunately, Shamsi does not abide by this saying and proceeds to attack Abu Taymiah who is exponentially better versed on Salafi thought (and done more to attact people to Salafiyah). Shami is also clueless and seeks to debate a Saudi dissident about a topic he knows nothing about. In fact, he is so deluded about politics of ME that he once confided to me that he thinks MbS is upon Salafiyah!
Abdul Rahman Hasan, Abu Taymiyyah, Dawan Man, etc. are all murji'a. They have the belief that a ruler can remove all Sharia from the land, and they are still muslim and to be obeyed as long as they don't say it.
Shamsi and co are trying to make islam easy. Is what they think. But Islam has always been perfect. Shamsi and co and have lost it May Allah guide them his ustad is not even a alim he got kicked out of medinah university
The collective efforts of the Madkhali and Super Salafi movements contribute immensely to the preservation of tyranny amongst the Muslim world, hence putting them on the wishlist of every tyrant. This piece explores the details.
Thumbnail Designer: Alireza Zabihi (AlirezaAlFarsi@gmail.com)
#brohajji
#shamsi
#madkhali
I'm not sure if they're secularists. They're shadeed against the muslim awaam (calling them mushrikh or mubtadi) and soft upon the leaders. One could argue they are what they accuse the believers of🤷🏻♂️
These lot are disservice to the salaf
@BroHajji
Allama Rabīʿ bin Hādī ʿUmayr al Madkhalī was the Dean of the Sunnah Studies Department at the Islamic University of Madinah.
Contemporary Salafi/Athari/Ahl-Hadith Scholars such as:
Muhammad Nasiruddin al-Albani,
Abd al-Aziz ibn Baz,
Saleh Al-Fawzan,
Muhammad ibn al-Uthaymeen,
Muqbil bin Hadi al-Wadi'i,
Abdul-Muhsin Al-Abbad,
Muhammad Amin Al-Shanqiti,
Saleh Al-Iraqi
Abdul-Ghaffar Hasan Al-Hindi,
as well as the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia
have ALL PRAISED his works and considered him to be the LEADER of Islamic Historical Sciences such as Al-Jarh wa-l-Ta’dil.
As a matter of fact, Allama Al-Albani [the leader of Hadith studies in the 21st Century] regarded Sheikh Rabīʿ al Madkhalī to be “the carrier of the flag of [knowledge] of Jarh wa Ta'deel in our contemporary times."
As such, the criticism of people like yourself #brohajji are of absolutely no worth on the matter.
I do not think you can name me a SINGLE SALAFI scholar from our contemporary times that has earned the praise of such highly reputed scholars [as listed above].
As a matter of fact, I CHALLENGE you to name me a SINGLE SALAFi scholar [of our time] that has earned the praise of so many elite scholars [as listed above], and I GURANTEE you, that you will not be able to produce it.
A quburi/ikhwani type hizbi like your self #brohajji have failed in their attempt to muster anything knowledgeable against Shaykh Dr. Rabee... AlhamduLiLaah 🔹
In conclusion, if compared to Sheikh/Dr. Rabi, you [BroHajji] at best would qualify as a ruwaibidi donkey, a caller to Hell.
* It should also be noted that the mashayikh [scholars] mentioned above such as: ibn al Uthaymeen, bin Baz, al-Albani and Rabee are not in and of themselves absolute authorities or "hujjat" for a matter in religion... rather the evidence or hujjat is to be found in the sources that these scholars provide us with in their works... as such there is to be absolutely no blind following any scholar exclusively... rather according to ALL the SCHOLARS mentioned above, we are OBLIGATED to seek and follow the most authentic cited evidences that the scholars provide... regardless of which scholar the more authenticated evidence is found with...
Astaghfirullah...
This Wahhabiyah is the Great Fitna amongst the ummah...
There is nothing called Wahabiya, there is tawheed and shariah of Allah which truth, then there is Tawheed mixed with democracy which is falsehood. There is also grave worshippers which is falsehood. There is removing Islam from Politics which is falsehood. Do my statements contradict with Islam?
As if the Sufis and Brewlis are not. The dirt thay they spread in the deen is worse
@@fhm3762true that
@@fhm3762
Was there any clear Hadith or ayah which stated that Tassawuf was prohibited/Haram?
@@krisyanharyadiyes hadith nakes it clear what is halal tawassuf and harram taeassuf which ibnnarabi type sufis have taken to shirk kufr level
Secularist salafist is the exact term for them. They do not bring islam into the political affairs and relegate islam to only the personal matters
Generalising is haram
Not all salafi think the same
In fact, the aqeedah Bro hajji follows is what majority of salafi follow
@@Topshooter92The brother didn't generalize, he specifically said "secularist" salafist.
The comparison between the pseudo-salafi madkhalis and the protestants is actually pretty accurate, especially with regards to their history in England during the reign of King Henry the 8th.Many of the pseudo-salafis, not just the madkhalis, seem to be less interested in understanding the Deen as it was understood by the actual Salaf and use the title "salafi" and their empty claims of following the way of the Salaf to give legitimacy to their misguided actions and beliefs. Also, they seem to have an overreliance on Sheikh ibn Taymiyyah, who was a man of great knowledge and piety, however, to be fair, he also had views that were controversial and that went against the ijmaa' of the Ulama, including his division of the concept of Tawhid into three separate types. This was an invention of his.
You know if someone wasn't to give me salaam, I would take that personally. I know why he called Shamsi a tagaweet (he deserved it)😂😂😂
Their day will come, and in Shaa Allah it will be in my lifetime
He's an undercover "Zandeeq" , wishing a prison sentence on your muslim brother just because he's moving against the Political movements of a kingdom that has a black history within that gulf region , حسبنا الله و نعم الوكيل، الله يجمعنا وإياك في جنات النعيم
Allah(swt) was very clear in the Quran “And he who does not judge according to what Allah has revealed, then they are the disbelievers” (Qur’an, 5:47) Anyone who says other than this or tries to change this is most likely being manipulated by a corrupt ruler to come with a strange interpretation. Full Stop. This verse is directly for rules like MBS.
The discussion shamsi had with the guy was that the guy said he fled Saudi Arabia because of the evil he saw but what shamsi was arguing is why go to the uk when it is much worse here the guy could had gone to Mecca or madinah were these lands are sacred shamsi was trying to put sense on the guy at first and honestly it don’t make sense why come to the uk if you want do hajr and the guy was using the companies of the prophet as examples when they want to Ethiopia but it’s not the same because the uk are like the times of the people of lut shamsi was just exposing him and he did that for example shamsi asked him what is the worst thing to do in the eyes of allah and the Saudi guy said tawheed then shamsi corrected him and said shirk if the guy really was a practicing Muslim as he claims then he would know the basic of Islam.
I always says basically they want muslim to be pre-revolution france, obey the king even the king as if he was ruling by the bible even though it's not.
History is showing itself what kind of people they are. And it's actually interesting to see the comparison.
Always straight to the point no gishgalaping from bro Haji ❤
SA
What are the differences between Salafi and Athari ? I am trying to find my way in terms of correctly following the Sunna and avoiding Bida. I just read Ibn Tamiya’s book Friends of Allah vs Friends of Shaytan which really opened my eyes
There’s practically no difference between the two. But you’ll find that salafis that don’t want to be lumped with extreme salafis like shamsi calling themselves atharis
@@Shiroyashasamathere are some distinct differences between them. Although I do agree atharee creed comes across as more acceptable and softer. Two major issues they both have in common is they heavily oppose any traditional aqidah from ashari or maturidi. Secondly they oppose following taqleed of one specific madhab.
PS حكام means 'rulers' and also 'referees', thats why the meme works. Because its referring to the poor referee decisions
Neo-salafism does tend to attract simpletons. May Allah elevate them and create the opportunities for them to appreciate the vast ocean of ilm outside the descendants of desert bandits.
True indeed. That's because it's a cult. May Allah guide and protect us all.
The madkhalis are wrong. But is your issue with the dawah of MIAW his takfir of people who call upon saints and prophets even though they claim islam?
@@chef4823 the considerate approach of Ibn Taymiyyah (rh) vs his Sunni opponents cf. MIAW who didn’t even leave his family out of takfirism
@@mohammeds3114 habib if your family were to believe making duaa to saints is halal do you affirm islam for them just because they are your family?
@@chef4823 by his elder brother, Sulayman ibn Abdul Wahhab (rahimahullah)
فصل الخطاب في الرد على
محمد بن عبد الوهاب
There is an anecdote about his coming across a woman who is calling upon a saint and he corrects her (without declaring her a mushrika) knowing full well that the woman does not believe the saint to share in any of the attributes of Allah. It was simple ignorance. His brother, on the other hand, developed modern day takfirism. Before MIAW, find some authoritative ulema that the ummah agree upon who held that a mere action indicating what comes close to shirk is enough to kill a man, and take his wife and children as slaves.
The treatment of the Ulema by the Saudi’s is despicable and yes lewdness and degeneracy is becoming the norm.
Wow i Can’t tolerante these madkhalis makin fitna amongst muslim i use to listen to then ended to only listen to sp and few other scholars May Allah help them
Bro make video on istegatha
They say we have to obey leaders even when they are oppressive, but they forget it is not leaders who are ruling by other than Shariah of Allah. Once twagheet laws are used to rule, then obviously the person on charge is a Murtad by fundamental principles of Islam hence not an Ameer of Mumineen. The title of Muslim leaders is Khalifa, Sahabas referred their Khalifa's as Ameerul Moomineen , we know it through Seerah of Prophet Muhammad and Sahabas and that is the deen we are obliged to follow, not the deen of new interpretations which rules out a requirement of Khilaafah. Islam makes it clear, democracy is a system of laws of Taghut and its rulers are none other but followers of Firaun , Nimrood, AbuJahl and likes of them.
None of the prophets and messengers of Allah peace and blessings of Allah be upon them obeyed those rulers but on the contrary they rebelled against them and did not give their allegiance to them so did the followers of Prophets and Messengers in their time.
We are the followers of Prophet Muhammad and He Salalaahu Alayhi Wassallam rejected Taghut and we are supposed to do the same if we follow his way. But if we are hypocrites and make claims then know that nothing is hidden from Allah and no one can deceive Allah Subhanawatallah and Fear Allah's punishment in this life and in the hereafter.
Yeah true. And we're getting fatwas that say we should modify stuff like the Jizyah, too.
Allah’s Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم said, “There shall be rulers whom you
will recognise from them good and evil. Whoever opposes them
is saved (also narrated as “whoever rejects with his tongue will be
innocent”589). Whoever abandons them is freed. And whoever
intermingles with them is destroyed.” Ibn Abi Shaybah and
at-Tabarani
Authenticated by shaykh Al Albani
Some people slandered Abu Taymiyyah حفظه الله so bad
May Allah protect him, he is a gem
Yeah a gem goes an praises said al kamali right ...
@@BaynawabaynakumSelef you are ignorant of the shaykh
Salafis
"We follow quran and hadith akhiiiiii and the way of the salaf akhiii"
Me "What madhab do you follow brother "
"We follow the way of the salaf akhii!"
I give him a fiqh question.
" albani said this ..... ibn taymiyah said this ... bin baz said that "
......
....
........
Point is they hide behind the Quran and sunnhah banner when really they just promote their sheikhs and only take from their books
Same with the extreme sufis...
Bro Hajji. We need to sit. 25 years I wasted with the Madkhali Salafis. 25 years. They are extremely weak in knowledge and keep dividing amongst themselves. They messed up in each of the 3 categories of Tawheed and how to study and research Fiqh. And purification of the soul is even worse as they believe they are the saved sect so don’t rectify themselves and mock those that do give it attention.
Bro are you a khariji?
القومية العربية الأولى في الثورة العربية الكبرى من صناعة (لورنس) و(ستورز) الإنجليزيين. والقومية العربية الثانية في عهد جمال عبدالناصر من صناعة (كيرميت روزفلت) و(مايلز كوبلند) الأمريكيين!
قال ( لورنس) : لا يمكن أن ننتصر على الخلافة العثمانية التي توحد المسلمين إلا بايجاد خليفتين عربي وتركي وانقسام قوميتين الترك والعرمنقول
Brother Hajj may Allah guide you.
You need to mature enough also.
You're doing nothing for this Umah but to spread Hate and Misguiding Muslims.
Fear Allah life it's too short
People don’t understand the difference…. They say these brothers teach the pure creed… and when they see someone who brings actual knowledge they’re like: “but what about brother so and so doing so and so”… the controversy and and “defending Islam from the innovators” become the focal point and the part they desire… if you ask me it’s no different from Haakimiyyah… they have made fitnah a principle by which salafiyyah is upheld…
Shamsi is all in for ibn salman
On the other side we have Extreme Sufis with their shirk and khurafat and the Rafidha with hatred heresies khurafat.
Its funny how all of these salafis end up turning against each other like the khawarij
There is a saying: Allah have mercy on the one who knows his limitations.
Unfortunately, Shamsi does not abide by this saying and proceeds to attack Abu Taymiah who is exponentially better versed on Salafi thought (and done more to attact people to Salafiyah). Shami is also clueless and seeks to debate a Saudi dissident about a topic he knows nothing about. In fact, he is so deluded about politics of ME that he once confided to me that he thinks MbS is upon Salafiyah!
@@Prayformetobeagoodmuslimlol he said it on video now 😂😂 im sure youve seen it.
Abdul Rahman Hasan, Abu Taymiyyah, Dawan Man, etc. are all murji'a.
They have the belief that a ruler can remove all Sharia from the land, and they are still muslim and to be obeyed as long as they don't say it.
What is nasheed in beginning
Shamsi and co are trying to make islam easy. Is what they think. But Islam has always been perfect. Shamsi and co and have lost it May Allah guide them his ustad is not even a alim he got kicked out of medinah university
Have a talk with @MuhammadfromGOD