COLIN WAS RIGHT😂 penn states only blemish was against Ohio state in a very close loss in Columbus and they are gonna get left out of playoffs😂 I’m crying rn
Colin, as someone (me) going through a pretty bad time in life with a newly break up, doubts about my future, finances, all of that... Your first quote about outlining your life in and pencil and not pen really lifted me up and actually brought a tear to my eye. Irrelevant to sports and this topic but that was huge to me, thank you. Good day, everyone.
Here's how you fix the situation to make conference champions a requirement: Instead of playing a conference championship game at the end of the year between the two division winners, you have the 2 best teams from each individual conference play for the conference title, regardless of division. In fact, do away with divisions entirely and select the top 2 teams from each conference based on the best overall record-not just conference record-and have them battle it out at the end of the season. By using the best overall record you can factor in & reward certain variables; such as teams like Alabama, Ohio State, LSU, Clemson, and Oklahoma, who schedule premiere out of conference games every year.
Penn State acts like a Rose Bowl is so bad. I'd take that for a 2-2 team 10 weeks ago. Next year they will be even better and more fit to win it all. Let things play out
Ain't that the true. They shouldn't have signed the contract to play Bama. Shoot VaTech & WV played better in the opening weekend verses Bama in previous years Fla State is up next. Can't wait.
This man is on point. You can't lose 2 games & 1 by 39 & get in. Even if Penn State got in Alabama would destroy them. Just wait for next year Penn State
Avian I'm an Ohio State fan Clearly 3 outta the 4 best teams in America are n big ten Ostate Ttun Penn State clearly are better than UW really think the play offs should be Alabama OState Clemson and TTUN and if any 2 loss team got in it would be TTUN on account that they beat Penn State
Dale Huffman im an OSU fan too but if the committee wanted the 4 actual best teams it be Bama, OSU, Clemson & the 4th is a toss up between TTUN, Penn State & USC
why is it that everyone knocks on psu for losing by 39, but not on OSU for losing to a team that lost by 39, they ignored the criteria they put out and that is what irritates me. Ohio state is getting an opportunity to be the smartest kid in the school without being the smartest kid in the classroom
At first when he was saying how mediocre Nebraska I thought he was crazy because they just won a bunch of National Championships but then I remembered this isn't my NCAA Football dynasty :/
I think 16 teams would make the most sense, get rid of the conference championships and keep the other bowl games for every team not in the top 16. In my opinion, Western Michigan should be in the playoffs, any team that is undefeated at the end of the year deserves a chance, just like Boise State deserved a chance several years ago. In all likelihood, both teams would lose to a big conference powerhouse, but they deserve that chance. Football is supposed to be a objective game, they can do better at taking away the subjectivity of the NCAA championship.
As an Alabama fan I just want to congratulate Clemson. Never, ever pay attention to these drama manufacturing talking heads. You killed the media darlings OSU Buckeyes and the Seminoles beat the Wolverines. The big 10 is sure not what these idiots made them out to be.
Yes, you can have a team without the conference title in the top 4. But you can't put them in and leave out the team who won the title in the same conference. That's the problem. If you want to put OSU in, ok then please also include PSU and cut either Clemson or Washington. You also lose your credibility by saying PSU fans are living in the moment while at the same time you believe a 3 loss USC is a top 4 team in the country. That's a typical double standard.
***** yeah, it hurts their resume but most people ignore the fact that more than half of the Penn State defensive squad were bench players during the first 5 games of the season because of injuries. And that's why we saw 2 bad losses from them in the early season. By the way Pitt is not scrub, they beat Clemson on the road.
conference championship is not a requirement. being one of the 4 best teams is. how do we determine who the best teams are? We look at what they did in totality on the field. Penn State's conference championship matters. But its not the only thing that matters. Those two losses matter too. Because of that simply winning the Big 10 was not enough to get into playoff. Just like for Oklahoma simply winning the big 12 was not enough. You can argue that conference champions should have automatic bid but that isn't what this system is. And I would argue that automatic bids would be foolish in college football. But for this current system Winning a conference championship is important but more important is winning your games especially if those games are against quality oppoenents. That's what Ohio st did and what Penn st didn't. now penn stat vs washington was the real debate.
AlphaDwg The current system is wrong, that's what I'm arguing about. Since when does winning games become larger than championships? I heard people said Warrior's 73-9 season means nothing when they lost to the Cavs. I heard people said Patriots's 16-0 season means nothing when they lost the super bowl to the Giants. Titles > regular season wins. That's why I think putting OSU in but leaving PSU out makes no sense. I never said you have to win a conference champ to be in the playoff. You can put OSU in but please also put the PSU in at the same time. By the way, I think CFP should be 5 power 5 champs+3 wildcards.
As a Penn State fan, Im sorry that some are arguing about the results because frankly they were the right choice, However, I dont believe that the complaints of a minority of fans are going to have any impact on next years results. If Franklin or the AD had complained about the results I can understand your point, however I think that Penn State handled the results appropriately by happily accepting the rose bowl. Sure, there are bad apples in any fan base, but they are irrevelevent.
The only issue I have with Penn State not being in is that Ohio States only Loss...was to the Team that won the Big 10. I would put a 10-2 conf champ over a 11-1 team that doesnt play in their champ game on top of losing to that 10-2 team. But the committee doesn't share my values. Its not because they are Conf Champs, it's that they also beat the 11-1 team who goes instead of them.
But head to heads are a bad metric as well; short of very close calls (which the rest of which had tOSU ahead by a good bit). Why? Because what happens when A beats B which beats C which beat A? Same thing happened this year too. Ohio State beat Michigan which beat Penn State which beat Ohio State. Thus, the head to head holds much less significance when you think about that for a little bit. And as for the whole body of work, what about the conference championship? They are still a whole other big win down from Ohio State (which had 4) - had an uglier loss. Coupled with another loss extra. Doesn't that also outweigh the conference title? I think it does. So you can easily, and this is probably what the committee did in deliberations, break down those two reasons to put in Penn State, and turn them right around. Nothing is in a vacuum. None of those two things (head to head, title) should be automatic qualifiers that literally have the power to be everything in their own right, barring everything else. If Penn State lost another OOC game, like Pitt, they would also have the head to head win over tOSU, and still would have had the title game. But are you saying based SOLELY on the metrics you gave, that a 10-3 team, Penn State, who won the B1G, and beat tOSU who is 11-1 into the playoff (who had better wins and a better loss)? That is just an amplified version of why tOSU was justified to get in this year.
eric garcia or maybe you go be an idiot elsewhere. I bet you were whining hard when Penn State made a 21 point comeback after you called them trash LOL
If these conferences are going to have championship games, they need to get rid of divisions. You play 8-9 conference games, so if you're in the Pac-12 or even the 14-team SEC or Big Ten, you're not going to play like two or three teams in the other division, so you can take advantage of that like Alabama does (cough, Kentucky and Tennessee). Set up the two best records or common schedule records and have them play.
njyankeesfan Tennessee is permanent cross division opponent of Alabama while the other cross division game is rotated every year. We don't play Kentucky every year. UGA last year. Florida the year before.
Tennessee and bama are protected rivals so are guaranteed a game against each other each year. USC is not in the SEC. And i see what u mean but there are other teams in the sec west and in order for their schedules to work they end up not playing the best teams sometimes
Cody Wirth so why not go with an 8 team playoff? that'd be 5 extra games instead of 1. I thought the point of the playoff was to get rid of the committee making silly judgement calls. give it 8 teams, power 5 conference winners get automatic bids, then the committee picks 3 teams from the non-conference-winners. it's still the only playoff in any sport without objective parameters, still the worst.
Kyle Rivers why? literally every other sport in North America runs their playoffs like this. And if they're unworthy, they'll just get bounced in the first round anyway. Why is this magically unacceptable for D1 football alone but not for literally every other sport?
I got to Penn state and honestly, the majority of the students and faculty here agree with the committee. What we should be talking about now is how to fix the scheduling discontinuities in college football.
Sorry PSU fans, the B1G ignores non conference games but the playoff committee doesn't. Nor should they. Sure, you had injuries. And OSU played back to back night roads games at UW and at PSU, and both teams had a bye week the week before facing a young OSU team. And let's be real, PSU was very fortunate to beat OSU. Whether you call it a fluke or no, it's certainly not a 39 point beat down.
a LOT of people are crying about Ohio State making it over Penn St, but the problem is you people want one criteria to exist at the exclusion of all other criteria. If H2H matters so much, PSU has no justification for being ahead of Michigan. PSU had TWO metrics in their favor, as compared to Ohio State, and about 12 against them. Their resumes weren't close. at least the committee has been consistent in their assessment of resumes in the entire, huge 3 year history of the CFP.
The entire reason for having playoffs (and conference championship games) is to settle the score on the field and to keep opinions to the minimum. Colin, in your world, the NFL should just bypass the playoffs and put New England and Dallas in the Super Bowl. Penn State should be in, period.
should have been Penn State and Ohio State instead of Washington and Ohio State. Winning the best conference in football. Cmon that should put them in. Washington has played 1 good team and lost, they played in a garbage conference and played nobody out of conference.
washington state is over ratated they lost to a fcs school there are not even ranked anymore. Utah and stanford are decent imo they will lose in there bowl games. washington is going to get blown out by bama
Alabama, Washington, Ohio State, Clemson in that order. Clemson struggles this year (NCS State had them beat) and Ohio State didn't win their conference.
I don't think this was a good point but the selection seems about right. Conference championships seem to be hit or miss and that should change, every other year its a make or break thing and then this happens where its pretty irrelevant that a team tops the conference, also seems super biased bc if this was bama then they would've been in no questions asked
The only thing that bothers me is how similar this is to how OSU got in the playoffs in 2014. Don't get me wrong they absolutely humiliated Wisconsin in the conference championship game, but it was a team that was thought to never be able to beat Alabama who beat one ranked opponent during the season but got in because they had the conference championship. Also think the 2 teams playing MSU consecutive weeks with very different results should've played a huge role, but I get that OSU has the better shot at Alabama
They humiliated the badger secondary, the front 7 played very well in the first half but at the end of the game got out gunned by some 6'3 freaks and a qb with an arm.
It's so obvious that the committee and the media wants a rematch between their 2 golden boys, Saban and Meyer. I don't think we'll see that, though. OSU's offense has been hot garbage lately and MSU and Michigan have showed us that if you contain the zone read and cover Samuel that they can't really do anything. I don't think they'll be able to outscore Clemson. I also wouldn't be surprised if Washington keeps it close with Bama.
Did I miss something? I feel like most of us Penn Staters were delighted at being chosen for the Rose Bowl and were perfectly okay with being left out of the final four, especially given the rocky beginning of the season. I wish there were 8 teams vying for the national title but all the same, I think it worked out well for us. No need to sound quite so patronizing.
How many times do I have to say that the conference championship should be determined by the overall win/loss rather than conference. Eliminate West/East and have the best overall record face off. That would be coherent with the metrics the CFP uses. If Michigan had won against Iowa, it would have been a three-way tie. Then Ohio State would have been in the championship. Eliminate West/East and the two best teams with the best overall records would have faced off. Makes sense, right?
It is better for Penn State to go and win the Rose bowl and build confidence and momentum for next season than to lose 63-10 to Alabama before going into offseason that's not good for recruitment
Most of penn state fans are actually arguing that two big ten teams should've made the playoff because it's the best conference, we all realize that osu is also deserving. Washington had an easy schedule and lost to their only good opponent and should've been left out.
What does next year have to do with the FACT that Penn State beat Ohio State, and won the Big Ten. Penn State's argument isn't that they have a conf. title over Ohio State, it's that they BEAT Ohio State and won Ohio State's division.
They lost to the same Pitt team that beat Clemson ( a playoff team) and to Michigan, a team right on the outside of playoff. You guys are neglecting the fact that OSU's loss is to the very team we're talking about.
Yeah they beat OhioState but the community saw the uncalled PI at the end and used that to make the decision. OhioState really should've won that game, but the refs missing that call played a huge part in PennState winning.
All that pass interference call would have done is move Ohio state 15 yards down field. Don't omit the fact that Penn State still sacked JT Barret to end the game AFTER that. Penn State scored a blocked fg but, their defense went out there and finished the game.
That game was setting up to be another Urban Meyer Ohio State win early in the 4th quarter. U could feel the fans start to exit, I feel that the committee thinks just because Ohio State didnt finish Penn State doesn't mean Penn State is better and Penn State didn't flat out win the division they won on a tiebreaker because of Ohio State
I agree with the comments made in this video in that conference championships don't mean much. Colin says the four best teams overall should get in regardless of championships etc. I just really want to know why people don't think penn state is one of the four best teams in college football RIGHT NOW. They have the longest win streak in the power 5 besides alabama which included ohio state. I understand that they lost two bad games early but they had every starting linebacker hurt and as well as a hurt defensive line, there were so many backups playing, sort of the same story with the pitt game. Michigan lost two of their last three so theres a very good case to be made that penn state is the better team RIGHT NOW, that game was like 10 weeks ago or so. It is literally the same case that Colin is making with usc, they started off bad but they got hot. usc lost by 46 to bama and 17 to stanford, and to be honest those sound as bad as losing to michigan by 39 and pitt (who is ranked now) by 3. The problem is the whole conference championship thing, but in a different way. People are dismissing penn state because the only thing we complain about is that we should get in because we won the big ten. I understand that it doesn't mean anything when judging every team in the country. But people are failing to realize that after that loss to michigan, penn state has actually been playing like a powerhouse top 4 college football team, we have taken care of business in a convincing manner. I would go as far to say that RECENTLY, we have been better than washington and clemson.
By the way, i really hope people don't actually look at what vegas thinks. Penn state is not only on a 9 game winning streak, they are 8-0-1 against the spread in those games which should never happen. How long will it take for oddsmakers and people in general to realize that penn state is a phenomenal team now?
As a Penn State fan, I'm glad we're out of the playoffs to play USC in the Rose Bowl. 1. We avoid running directly into the brick wall that is Alabama this year and being relegated to an also ran. Not saying we would have no chance at all, just let's be realistic about our chances. 2. If Alabama stomps on Washington, we can argue we would have been a better match-up. 3. If Ohio State loses to Clemson badly, same argument. 4. If Ohio State wins out against Clemson, Tide/Washington we'll be the only team that beat the National Champions in 2016. Every CFP outcome either boosts our resume for next year or is irrelevant (Washington or Clemson wins). We're returning most guys on both sides of the ball for 2017. The only thing that could ding the resume at this point is a poor performance in our bowl game. As coach Franklin says, USC! USC! USC! USC USC! USC! USC! USC! That's all we need to worry about. GO STATE! #WEARE
What about this idea? get rid of the divisions like east-west and just have all the teams play each other like the B12 does it everyone plays each other except week 1 where they can play anyone but after that week u have to play all conference matchups and the 2 teams with the 2 best records play each other in the conference championship Problem Solved. How much better would it be to see 11-1 Ohio State vs 12-0 Michigan in a conference title game other than 12-0 Michigan vs 8-4 Nebraska it would make it more meaningful and fun to watch💯💯
He thinks Ohio State is the only potential team to be better then Penn State? Has he even been watching football for the last 8 years? Alabama loses almost half of their team each year to the NFL but each year they're always in contention for the championship.
I like Colin but the way he DOGS on Nebraska and the other side of the Big 10 is completely absurd to me. In this video he states multiple times that Big 10 alignment is such a joke because Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Michigan State are the best 4 programs and everyone on the other side is a joke compared to them. Ok, from 2005 to 2015, Wisconsin had 98 wins which is 9th in the country. That program can't shake a candle to the teams on the other side? Nebraska is a joke compared to Michigan State and Penn State? In that same time-frame, Penn State 89 wins, Nebraska 88 wins, Michigan State 84 wins. It doesn't make any sense for Colin to have that opinion when you look at the actual data instead of just ranting.
Hey Washington made it in with the worst out of conference schedule ever. It just goes to show if Penn State would have played Portland State instead of Pitt, we'd be in. It's crazy that we beat a conference champion, won our own division (the toughest in the nation), then won our conference (best in the nation) and we didn't make it. We beat two top 10 teams, and 2 other top 25 teams. Our loss to Pitt looks better since they also beat Clemson ON THE ROAD, and our loss to Michigan should be somewhat nullified since we had our 7th team linebackers in. Ohio State's resume is impressive no lie, but they also lost to Penn State. Clemson almost lost numerous times and I believe will get annihilated in the first round. Washington had such an easy schedule. Beat a couple of "ok" teams in Utah and WSU, beat Stanford, and beat a hurt Colorado team. None of those teams are on OSU or even Wisconsin's level.
it should be 8 teams not automatic bid bs. I've been saying that for a while. The conferences will be represented 99.9% of the time but it wont force the committee to let a bad conference champion in.
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lol I'm watching this before class
shouldn't you be studying?
Alec Ashby good luck on finals this/next week.
ezrad3 May the curve be in our favor
thsu8 watching colin lowkey gets me focused for such things
COLIN WAS RIGHT😂 penn states only blemish was against Ohio state in a very close loss in Columbus and they are gonna get left out of playoffs😂 I’m crying rn
sjcthrn5 he was talking about what would happen this year tho. He's right
Andrew Koehn They loft to Michigan State too
Nice choke to Michigan State back to back years
They lost to michigan state too, that's why bama was in
Patrick Minahan They lost to MSU.
As a Penn State fan i hate it, but's he right on this
bamaboi t USC should have got into the playoff.
Colin uses analogies so well
Who are your 4 best teams in College Football this year?
Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Washington
Colin Cowherd Tulane is the best
Bama Clemson Ohio State Michigan that order
Bama, OSU, Michigan, Washington
bama, Ohio state, Michigan, Washington
Could not agree more, I feel like we will be having this conversation again next year
Colin, as someone (me) going through a pretty bad time in life with a newly break up, doubts about my future, finances, all of that... Your first quote about outlining your life in and pencil and not pen really lifted me up and actually brought a tear to my eye. Irrelevant to sports and this topic but that was huge to me, thank you. Good day, everyone.
His prediction literally came true with the Ohio st vs Penn st rematch
Here's how you fix the situation to make conference champions a requirement: Instead of playing a conference championship game at the end of the year between the two division winners, you have the 2 best teams from each individual conference play for the conference title, regardless of division. In fact, do away with divisions entirely and select the top 2 teams from each conference based on the best overall record-not just conference record-and have them battle it out at the end of the season. By using the best overall record you can factor in & reward certain variables; such as teams like Alabama, Ohio State, LSU, Clemson, and Oklahoma, who schedule premiere out of conference games every year.
Penn State acts like a Rose Bowl is so bad. I'd take that for a 2-2 team 10 weeks ago. Next year they will be even better and more fit to win it all. Let things play out
AidenHighlights Fr like they even wanted to play Alabama
PSU fan here. I'm more than thrilled we are in the Rose Bowl. I never would have thought at the start of the season we'd be in this position.
Mike V ur going to lose and embarras the big ten while Ohio State wins Championship. Btw thanks fir the extra week off. LOL
Dennis Massie How will Ohio state win the championship when they are going to get blown out by Clemson?
Aughton Devin Ahahaha no. Not gonna happen
Daaaammmmm Colin literally predicted the future. Curious what Penn State fans are thinking now
penn state fan here, we weren’t thinking anything. we were just in pain.
You weren't wrong about Penn State this year 😂
This guy predicted this years Ohio st vs penn st game
You gotta stop with usc lol. They have 3 losses...
usc has been looking dominate lately its the eye test
52-6. I hate Bama, but at least we will have to watch the game to see the outcome. Bama might put 100 on USC at this point if they had the #4 spot.
Ain't that the true. They shouldn't have signed the contract to play Bama. Shoot VaTech & WV played better in the opening weekend verses Bama in previous years Fla State is up next. Can't wait.
you know whats funny he was calling for their head coach to be fired at the beginning of the season lol
USC looks good recently because of the competition. Make a difference.
Bottom line. 8 team playoff, 5 conf. champs + 3 at-large bids
As usual, Colin is exactly right.
I will say this, the committee without speaking gave the message "schedule cupcakes and just go undefeated"
This man is on point. You can't lose 2 games & 1 by 39 & get in. Even if Penn State got in Alabama would destroy them. Just wait for next year Penn State
bamaboi t he based it on how they're playing. USC is playing better than Clemson & Washington but they lost too much
Avian I'm an Ohio State fan Clearly 3 outta the 4 best teams in America are n big ten Ostate Ttun Penn State clearly are better than UW really think the play offs should be Alabama OState Clemson and TTUN and if any 2 loss team got in it would be TTUN on account that they beat Penn State
Dale Huffman im an OSU fan too but if the committee wanted the 4 actual best teams it be Bama, OSU, Clemson & the 4th is a toss up between TTUN, Penn State & USC
MGoffer lol
MGoffer Haha! Go Tigers!
why is it that everyone knocks on psu for losing by 39, but not on OSU for losing to a team that lost by 39, they ignored the criteria they put out and that is what irritates me. Ohio state is getting an opportunity to be the smartest kid in the school without being the smartest kid in the classroom
LOL you're reaching so bad
It's irrelevant because we beat the team that you guys lost to by 39. Nice try though.
All I'm saying is the margin of score in a rookie 4th game down 4 starters and 3 backups shouldn't matter, it's the reason they created the committee.
Caleb Schultz *cheated to win against that team
I'm pretty sure *ichigan didn't mean to give Ohio State 3 turnovers to lose the game.
At first when he was saying how mediocre Nebraska I thought he was crazy because they just won a bunch of National Championships but then I remembered this isn't my NCAA Football dynasty :/
Trash system. NFL has the right playoff system.
*****
Well at least have more teams in at least. lol!
Jayce so you're saying western Michigan should be in the playoffs?
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IDK bro, like I said they need to come up with a good alternative than what it is now.
I think 16 teams would make the most sense, get rid of the conference championships and keep the other bowl games for every team not in the top 16. In my opinion, Western Michigan should be in the playoffs, any team that is undefeated at the end of the year deserves a chance, just like Boise State deserved a chance several years ago. In all likelihood, both teams would lose to a big conference powerhouse, but they deserve that chance. Football is supposed to be a objective game, they can do better at taking away the subjectivity of the NCAA championship.
SwaggyP Michigan, penn state, and usc should have been in
As an Alabama fan I just want to congratulate Clemson. Never, ever pay attention to these drama manufacturing talking heads. You killed the media darlings OSU Buckeyes and the Seminoles beat the Wolverines. The big 10 is sure not what these idiots made them out to be.
WOW! Amazing. Got it right
Penn State shouldn't have lost 49-10 Michigan.
Colin is from Washington! show proud for UW and I'm here from 2020 looking back at the glory days of UW football
I usually hate Cowturd but he made a perfect argument for this one
that's an amazing point
Nailed it
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Washington
4. Penn state
When does he not tell the truth 😂
dylan davis when he talks about usc
Idk. Looking back he been spot-on bout this
Everyone just forget how both penn state and Clemson lost to pitt
Yes, you can have a team without the conference title in the top 4. But you can't put them in and leave out the team who won the title in the same conference. That's the problem. If you want to put OSU in, ok then please also include PSU and cut either Clemson or Washington. You also lose your credibility by saying PSU fans are living in the moment while at the same time you believe a 3 loss USC is a top 4 team in the country. That's a typical double standard.
Hao Li Ohio state is the better team.... easy decision when you take emotion out of it
Torrin Bates Should put both then
***** yeah, it hurts their resume but most people ignore the fact that more than half of the Penn State defensive squad were bench players during the first 5 games of the season because of injuries. And that's why we saw 2 bad losses from them in the early season. By the way Pitt is not scrub, they beat Clemson on the road.
conference championship is not a requirement. being one of the 4 best teams is. how do we determine who the best teams are? We look at what they did in totality on the field. Penn State's conference championship matters. But its not the only thing that matters. Those two losses matter too. Because of that simply winning the Big 10 was not enough to get into playoff. Just like for Oklahoma simply winning the big 12 was not enough. You can argue that conference champions should have automatic bid but that isn't what this system is. And I would argue that automatic bids would be foolish in college football. But for this current system Winning a conference championship is important but more important is winning your games especially if those games are against quality oppoenents. That's what Ohio st did and what Penn st didn't. now penn stat vs washington was the real debate.
AlphaDwg The current system is wrong, that's what I'm arguing about. Since when does winning games become larger than championships? I heard people said Warrior's 73-9 season means nothing when they lost to the Cavs. I heard people said Patriots's 16-0 season means nothing when they lost the super bowl to the Giants. Titles > regular season wins. That's why I think putting OSU in but leaving PSU out makes no sense. I never said you have to win a conference champ to be in the playoff. You can put OSU in but please also put the PSU in at the same time. By the way, I think CFP should be 5 power 5 champs+3 wildcards.
As a Penn State fan, Im sorry that some are arguing about the results because frankly they were the right choice, However, I dont believe that the complaints of a minority of fans are going to have any impact on next years results. If Franklin or the AD had complained about the results I can understand your point, however I think that Penn State handled the results appropriately by happily accepting the rose bowl. Sure, there are bad apples in any fan base, but they are irrevelevent.
This dude just predicted it 💀💀💀
Psu schedule>>>Washington schedule. That is all
if penn state wanted to go to the cfb, they shouldn't have lost to michigan by 39 points. and they lost to pitt
The only issue I have with Penn State not being in is that Ohio States only Loss...was to the Team that won the Big 10. I would put a 10-2 conf champ over a 11-1 team that doesnt play in their champ game on top of losing to that 10-2 team. But the committee doesn't share my values. Its not because they are Conf Champs, it's that they also beat the 11-1 team who goes instead of them.
And Penn State lost to Pitt and got embarrassed by Michigan so Ohio State easily had the better loss
eric garcia lol can you get off my comments
Stop whining then and get ready to get pummeled by USC
But head to heads are a bad metric as well; short of very close calls (which the rest of which had tOSU ahead by a good bit). Why? Because what happens when A beats B which beats C which beat A? Same thing happened this year too. Ohio State beat Michigan which beat Penn State which beat Ohio State. Thus, the head to head holds much less significance when you think about that for a little bit. And as for the whole body of work, what about the conference championship? They are still a whole other big win down from Ohio State (which had 4) - had an uglier loss. Coupled with another loss extra. Doesn't that also outweigh the conference title? I think it does.
So you can easily, and this is probably what the committee did in deliberations, break down those two reasons to put in Penn State, and turn them right around. Nothing is in a vacuum. None of those two things (head to head, title) should be automatic qualifiers that literally have the power to be everything in their own right, barring everything else. If Penn State lost another OOC game, like Pitt, they would also have the head to head win over tOSU, and still would have had the title game. But are you saying based SOLELY on the metrics you gave, that a 10-3 team, Penn State, who won the B1G, and beat tOSU who is 11-1 into the playoff (who had better wins and a better loss)? That is just an amplified version of why tOSU was justified to get in this year.
eric garcia or maybe you go be an idiot elsewhere. I bet you were whining hard when Penn State made a 21 point comeback after you called them trash LOL
THIS MAN CALLED PEN STATE THIS YEAR
Colin as a Penn State fan I agree 100% with you, yes it sucks but we r playing in the Rose Bowl when no one even thought it was possible.
If these conferences are going to have championship games, they need to get rid of divisions. You play 8-9 conference games, so if you're in the Pac-12 or even the 14-team SEC or Big Ten, you're not going to play like two or three teams in the other division, so you can take advantage of that like Alabama does (cough, Kentucky and Tennessee). Set up the two best records or common schedule records and have them play.
njyankeesfan Tennessee is permanent cross division opponent of Alabama while the other cross division game is rotated every year. We don't play Kentucky every year. UGA last year. Florida the year before.
Chris26 When the SEC East had really good teams in UF, UGA and USC, how often did Bama play them those years? They need to balance things out.
Tennessee and bama are protected rivals so are guaranteed a game against each other each year. USC is not in the SEC. And i see what u mean but there are other teams in the sec west and in order for their schedules to work they end up not playing the best teams sometimes
For the other teams schedules to work out teams like bama can't always play Florida and Georgia
so when did South Carolina leave the SEC, since they're not in that division I guess?
Alabama Ohio State Michigan Penn State
#1 is correct -- Roll Tide!
Well Clemson is the 2017 National Champs. Looks like he got it wrong...
No Alabama won that year
I love how Collin said an 8-4 Iowa team will win the division. As an Iowa fan, I see no way we even end up bowl eligible next season!
Ryan Bliss Eh they probably will
4 team playoff is a joke anyway. Why exactly is picking 4 teams arbitrarily any better than picking 2 teams arbitrarily?
Brian Sager More games, more money.
Cody Wirth so why not go with an 8 team playoff? that'd be 5 extra games instead of 1. I thought the point of the playoff was to get rid of the committee making silly judgement calls. give it 8 teams, power 5 conference winners get automatic bids, then the committee picks 3 teams from the non-conference-winners. it's still the only playoff in any sport without objective parameters, still the worst.
Yea i i like that idea. let say this year could be 1.Alabama 2. Clemson 3. Washington 4.Penn State 5.Oklahoma. Then the next 3 best teams
Having a committee is better than autobids giving some unworthy schools a spot just for winning their conference.
Kyle Rivers why? literally every other sport in North America runs their playoffs like this. And if they're unworthy, they'll just get bounced in the first round anyway. Why is this magically unacceptable for D1 football alone but not for literally every other sport?
I got to Penn state and honestly, the majority of the students and faculty here agree with the committee. What we should be talking about now is how to fix the scheduling discontinuities in college football.
Sorry PSU fans, the B1G ignores non conference games but the playoff committee doesn't. Nor should they. Sure, you had injuries. And OSU played back to back night roads games at UW and at PSU, and both teams had a bye week the week before facing a young OSU team. And let's be real, PSU was very fortunate to beat OSU. Whether you call it a fluke or no, it's certainly not a 39 point beat down.
This is brilliant.
USC over Washington.
OK now it's 2017, am I still hearing this BS. Please remove OSU from backside
a LOT of people are crying about Ohio State making it over Penn St, but the problem is you people want one criteria to exist at the exclusion of all other criteria. If H2H matters so much, PSU has no justification for being ahead of Michigan. PSU had TWO metrics in their favor, as compared to Ohio State, and about 12 against them. Their resumes weren't close. at least the committee has been consistent in their assessment of resumes in the entire, huge 3 year history of the CFP.
no with Washington. should've been Michigan
why do Colin always have to come up with analogy before he makes his point ? lol
The entire reason for having playoffs (and conference championship games) is to settle the score on the field and to keep opinions to the minimum. Colin, in your world, the NFL should just bypass the playoffs and put New England and Dallas in the Super Bowl. Penn State should be in, period.
It will be interesting to see how they look against usc, will they come motivated to play or look toward trying to get in next year.
He kinda predicted this year
It's not even just about winning the conference we also BEAT Ohio state focus on both halves of the argument
should have been Penn State and Ohio State instead of Washington and Ohio State. Winning the best conference in football. Cmon that should put them in. Washington has played 1 good team and lost, they played in a garbage conference and played nobody out of conference.
But two teams in the same division can't play in the conference championship game. OhioState and PennState are both in the B1G East.
Washington beat stanford 44-6, beat utah and wazzu on the road, and beat colorado by 31. Huskies are pretty good actually.
Brady Boles you're correct but i think it should've been 1 Bama 2 Washington 3 PennState 4 OSU. Clemson does have a quality win
washington state is over ratated they lost to a fcs school there are not even ranked anymore. Utah and stanford are decent imo they will lose in there bowl games. washington is going to get blown out by bama
clemson doesn't sorry
Yo what's the song at the beginning of the video?
my pick was Oklahoma state,Alabama, Clemson, USC.
The BIG 10 is the best conference Penn State should have gotten in.
PSU fan and I didn't want us to go get annihilated by Alabama. No point. Rather go to the Rose Bowl
Substitute osu in your 2017 scenario with Michigan and it makes sense. James Franklin will never beat Michigan. Couldn't even beat Hoke's worst team.
Puts USC in playoffs over Clemson and Clemson blows out OSU 31-0. Nice
"clemsons a fraud. clemsons gonna get their ears boxed by whoever they play." - colin cowherd
Alabama, Washington, Ohio State, Clemson in that order. Clemson struggles this year (NCS State had them beat) and Ohio State didn't win their conference.
Yup 4 years later osu and michigan should be playing for the b10 title
I hope Colin not serious with these bold predictions for next year.
Colin be PREACHING man...COWARD FOR PRESIDENT
Inspired rn
Can't lie I disagree with some of his views but he was on the money wit this...
I don't think this was a good point but the selection seems about right. Conference championships seem to be hit or miss and that should change, every other year its a make or break thing and then this happens where its pretty irrelevant that a team tops the conference, also seems super biased bc if this was bama then they would've been in no questions asked
The only thing that bothers me is how similar this is to how OSU got in the playoffs in 2014. Don't get me wrong they absolutely humiliated Wisconsin in the conference championship game, but it was a team that was thought to never be able to beat Alabama who beat one ranked opponent during the season but got in because they had the conference championship. Also think the 2 teams playing MSU consecutive weeks with very different results should've played a huge role, but I get that OSU has the better shot at Alabama
They humiliated the badger secondary, the front 7 played very well in the first half but at the end of the game got out gunned by some 6'3 freaks and a qb with an arm.
I get that but look at TCU's and OSU's entire seasons and explain to me how OSU has a better resume with that schedule
It's so obvious that the committee and the media wants a rematch between their 2 golden boys, Saban and Meyer. I don't think we'll see that, though. OSU's offense has been hot garbage lately and MSU and Michigan have showed us that if you contain the zone read and cover Samuel that they can't really do anything. I don't think they'll be able to outscore Clemson. I also wouldn't be surprised if Washington keeps it close with Bama.
tired hearing about michigan.
Did I miss something? I feel like most of us Penn Staters were delighted at being chosen for the Rose Bowl and were perfectly okay with being left out of the final four, especially given the rocky beginning of the season. I wish there were 8 teams vying for the national title but all the same, I think it worked out well for us. No need to sound quite so patronizing.
what if your dream is to have a range rover?
save the dream for later. just cause it's a dream doesnt make it a financially smart one lol
when he says he wouldnt put clemson in...
I lost him after he said he would put in USC
How many times do I have to say that the conference championship should be determined by the overall win/loss rather than conference. Eliminate West/East and have the best overall record face off. That would be coherent with the metrics the CFP uses. If Michigan had won against Iowa, it would have been a three-way tie. Then Ohio State would have been in the championship. Eliminate West/East and the two best teams with the best overall records would have faced off. Makes sense, right?
It is better for Penn State to go and win the Rose bowl and build confidence and momentum for next season than to lose 63-10 to Alabama before going into offseason that's not good for recruitment
Most of penn state fans are actually arguing that two big ten teams should've made the playoff because it's the best conference, we all realize that osu is also deserving. Washington had an easy schedule and lost to their only good opponent and should've been left out.
Essensially: "Penn State fans, you guys are a bunch of hypocrites."
What does next year have to do with the FACT that Penn State beat Ohio State, and won the Big Ten. Penn State's argument isn't that they have a conf. title over Ohio State, it's that they BEAT Ohio State and won Ohio State's division.
jarelle sugick also lost to a pitt which ultimately kept them out
They lost to the same Pitt team that beat Clemson ( a playoff team) and to Michigan, a team right on the outside of playoff. You guys are neglecting the fact that OSU's loss is to the very team we're talking about.
Yeah they beat OhioState but the community saw the uncalled PI at the end and used that to make the decision. OhioState really should've won that game, but the refs missing that call played a huge part in PennState winning.
All that pass interference call would have done is move Ohio state 15 yards down field. Don't omit the fact that Penn State still sacked JT Barret to end the game AFTER that. Penn State scored a blocked fg but, their defense went out there and finished the game.
That game was setting up to be another Urban Meyer Ohio State win early in the 4th quarter. U could feel the fans start to exit, I feel that the committee thinks just because Ohio State didnt finish Penn State doesn't mean Penn State is better and Penn State didn't flat out win the division they won on a tiebreaker because of Ohio State
I agree with the comments made in this video in that conference championships don't mean much. Colin says the four best teams overall should get in regardless of championships etc. I just really want to know why people don't think penn state is one of the four best teams in college football RIGHT NOW. They have the longest win streak in the power 5 besides alabama which included ohio state. I understand that they lost two bad games early but they had every starting linebacker hurt and as well as a hurt defensive line, there were so many backups playing, sort of the same story with the pitt game. Michigan lost two of their last three so theres a very good case to be made that penn state is the better team RIGHT NOW, that game was like 10 weeks ago or so. It is literally the same case that Colin is making with usc, they started off bad but they got hot. usc lost by 46 to bama and 17 to stanford, and to be honest those sound as bad as losing to michigan by 39 and pitt (who is ranked now) by 3. The problem is the whole conference championship thing, but in a different way. People are dismissing penn state because the only thing we complain about is that we should get in because we won the big ten. I understand that it doesn't mean anything when judging every team in the country. But people are failing to realize that after that loss to michigan, penn state has actually been playing like a powerhouse top 4 college football team, we have taken care of business in a convincing manner. I would go as far to say that RECENTLY, we have been better than washington and clemson.
By the way, i really hope people don't actually look at what vegas thinks. Penn state is not only on a 9 game winning streak, they are 8-0-1 against the spread in those games which should never happen. How long will it take for oddsmakers and people in general to realize that penn state is a phenomenal team now?
Hopefully they make it an 8 team playoff next year so penn state can have a shot to get in
What's a 4.5 GPA...?
The CFP made this rule for conference championships. Penn State is just saying the rules
As a Penn State fan, I'm glad we're out of the playoffs to play USC in the Rose Bowl.
1. We avoid running directly into the brick wall that is Alabama this year and being relegated to an also ran. Not saying we would have no chance at all, just let's be realistic about our chances.
2. If Alabama stomps on Washington, we can argue we would have been a better match-up.
3. If Ohio State loses to Clemson badly, same argument.
4. If Ohio State wins out against Clemson, Tide/Washington we'll be the only team that beat the National Champions in 2016.
Every CFP outcome either boosts our resume for next year or is irrelevant (Washington or Clemson wins). We're returning most guys on both sides of the ball for 2017. The only thing that could ding the resume at this point is a poor performance in our bowl game. As coach Franklin says, USC! USC! USC! USC USC! USC! USC! USC! That's all we need to worry about. GO STATE! #WEARE
vvebvvaster USC is going to stomp you
Okay smart guy, what cracked crystal ball are you gazing into? I can guarantee it doesn't include strength of schedule LOL.
vvebvvaster my eyes. There isn't one position that penn state is better than USC at except kicker tackling.
What about this idea? get rid of the divisions like east-west and just have all the teams play each other like the B12 does it everyone plays each other except week 1 where they can play anyone but after that week u have to play all conference matchups and the 2 teams with the 2 best records play each other in the conference championship Problem Solved. How much better would it be to see 11-1 Ohio State vs 12-0 Michigan in a conference title game other than 12-0 Michigan vs 8-4 Nebraska it would make it more meaningful and fun to watch💯💯
If it were reversed and Penn state had gotten in without a conference championship and Ohio state got left out I bet he'd be singing a different tune
bruh USC is not even a top 10 team, let alone a top 4 team. Next year in the B1G Championship I'm calling it, Wisconsin VS Penn State, the rematch
Disrespect to wisconsin...
He thinks Ohio State is the only potential team to be better then Penn State? Has he even been watching football for the last 8 years? Alabama loses almost half of their team each year to the NFL but each year they're always in contention for the championship.
C9 Unh0ly he is talking about in the big ten conference not the cfp. U read too much there
I like Colin but the way he DOGS on Nebraska and the other side of the Big 10 is completely absurd to me. In this video he states multiple times that Big 10 alignment is such a joke because Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Michigan State are the best 4 programs and everyone on the other side is a joke compared to them. Ok, from 2005 to 2015, Wisconsin had 98 wins which is 9th in the country. That program can't shake a candle to the teams on the other side? Nebraska is a joke compared to Michigan State and Penn State? In that same time-frame, Penn State 89 wins, Nebraska 88 wins, Michigan State 84 wins. It doesn't make any sense for Colin to have that opinion when you look at the actual data instead of just ranting.
ChosenBrad1322 the west teams don't have to play ohio state, michigan, penn state and Michigan state every year
ChosenBrad1322 who do they play?
Alabama's defense may be one of the best ever and they will help the mistakes on the offensive side
Well, that was a waste. He could have made his point in a tenth of the time. Obvious he was struggling to fill up his air time.
Hey Washington made it in with the worst out of conference schedule ever. It just goes to show if Penn State would have played Portland State instead of Pitt, we'd be in.
It's crazy that we beat a conference champion, won our own division (the toughest in the nation), then won our conference (best in the nation) and we didn't make it. We beat two top 10 teams, and 2 other top 25 teams. Our loss to Pitt looks better since they also beat Clemson ON THE ROAD, and our loss to Michigan should be somewhat nullified since we had our 7th team linebackers in.
Ohio State's resume is impressive no lie, but they also lost to Penn State.
Clemson almost lost numerous times and I believe will get annihilated in the first round.
Washington had such an easy schedule. Beat a couple of "ok" teams in Utah and WSU, beat Stanford, and beat a hurt Colorado team. None of those teams are on OSU or even Wisconsin's level.
it should be 8 teams not automatic bid bs. I've been saying that for a while. The conferences will be represented 99.9% of the time but it wont force the committee to let a bad conference champion in.
3:11 If they don't go to the CCG, they can't be 12-1