The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block. If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
I'm brand new to the world of diesel engines. I put the S&S Disaster prevention kit on my 2019 6.7L myself. It took just alittle more time than the pros, but i did it. Read and watch videos on installation. No leaks, run just fine and what a piece of mind.
I asked you about this a few months back on your podcast and you didn't have any input on it. I'm so glad you posted this so we now know how great this product works and the money you can save down the road if disaster happens.
Was waiting on buying this till i saw or heard of a cp4 pump fail with this system installed and it protecting the fuel system. will be adding this to my truck soon. Thanks for the video
After having a CP4 failure, I do want to install one of these. I think I'd prefer the glass bottom filter though, in hopes of seeing the first few "sparklies" before the pump comes completely apart, potentially leaving me on the side of the road again.
@@jamesw.6931 The pump failed at 162,000mi. I change fuel filters (Motorcraft 4615) every other oil change, and drain the separator every couple fuel stops into a glass jar to look for water and never saw any. I mailed a fuel sample to a lab after the failure and they said they saw nothing wrong with it. I requested the dealer either inspect the cores, or allow me to see if there was rust on the left rail valves and sensors (in case some water escaped me), they refused. Maybe I was just one of the "lucky ones" the roller bucket flipped on.
Ur local guy must be way out in left feild.....u can order filters one by one from Accuratediesel dot com. Ask for Tim ull see what i am talking about. ......to order 25 yea im thinkin um no
@@jamesw.6931 I buy Motorcraft PM22 by the gallon jug from the local parts depot (refilling the 20oz bottle I keep in the truck), and use that or Hot Shot's EDT every fuel stop.
Get the kit. My CP4 blew at 124K $11000 to fix and had to wait weeks for the ford factory parts. $400 is cheep insurance. I used reputable fuel and changed filters religiously at 10k. I did not use an additive. I use fords diesel additive now with every tank. I also installed the Fass assist. I highly recommend. It removes even more dirt air and “99%” of the water. Truck ran smoother immediately after the install.
Awesome video Arod….. good timing…..just got my S & S kit on my 22. Awesome kit. Also did HS Motorsports hot/cold CAC tubes. Awesome day to do it. Thanks again for all your videos. They really help out…..😊
I'm glad you installed this on my truck. One day tho I think it would help if you did a whiteboard to show the flow of fuel and how it saves us from a $$$ huge repair. Those ppl saying this is what my warranty is for, this is true but can you put a price on having your truck in the shop out of service for a big repair? Great video.
Unfortunately it's the new normal. It's either no parts or not enough techs. My buddy just got his truck back after waiting 6 months from hitting a deer. The amount of backordered parts for the repair was crazy.
Great, love it! 💪💪 Will add it to the list of upgrades. On the test video, I would like for them to have walked us through the process of setup, testing, how/what they are testing, and then the failure. I understood from the 2min clip, but, not really presented in such a way that would make a non-believer a believer.
Hello 👋. Sold. Need one. Especially with today’s fuel issue. Need to feel a little safer. Don’t want to replace injectors. Just because of bad fuel. Thanks 🙏🏼 for the info 🤩😎
There is a new filter in the Gen2.1 that is no longer a 2 micron and doesn’t have see through bottom I wonder if that will effect protection? I ordered the new Billet Alumium for the new filter haven’t installed yet till the Gen2 needs to be changed.
Would you recommend I install this on my 2021? I change my filters every other oil change without fail. My oil changes are every 3K miles, so my fuel filters every 6K miles. I use additives with every tank of fuel. My truck has just over 10K miles on it right now.
@@freethinkingamerican80 fluids and filters are cheaper than engine and fuel system repairs or replacements. It also helps being a dealership technician as well, not having to pay full price for the fluids and filters.
I have one sitting on my parts shelf from when I had a beautiful 2015 Platinum 6.7 with 120k on it, but I sold the truck before I could put it on. I just can't bring myself to spend the hours putting it on my 2021 Tremor 6.7 when I have the 100k extended warranty... if I fall victim to the failure, either way the truck is going down and as long as it wasn't proved to be my fault, Ford is fixing it. What's the book hours on a CP4 job vs full failure job? I could see maybe if I was hot shotting and it made a several day turnaround difference while I'm on the road to get "just" a CP4 job vs a full replacement. Now, if I keep the truck past 100k and the repairs become my problem... you're damn right I'm putting one on!
I want to rescind my comment after watching S&S’s recent video where they purposely failed their CP4 on a 2016 and drove it to UCC. My previous comment/thought assumed that when the CP4 failed even with the S&S DPK you would be stranded from failure. It appears that is not the case and the CP4 can continue to run even while severely damaged, as long as you have the DPK filtering. I now see value in installing my DPK even though I’m under warranty because limping it somewhere safe vs stopping dead is a big difference.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod what do you think about fords additive? I’m about to switch to hot shots for the easy bottle. The ford is just a gallon. Pain in the butt to measure and pour.
this right here Is things I want to see. I've been building my 6.7 for a few years after cylinder 4 decided it wanted to be nasa and go to the moon. thanks to covid it took a year just to get all the parts to complete my engine. it's a fully built engine, stage 2 trans done by Sam Wyse too. MPD compounds and at the moment a rcd stroker, waiting for H&S to send the dual fueler kit been on back order since October... I bought the SPE disaster kit but I've had a few mishaps that really messed up a lot so I didn't want to use it. plus no one had any proof that it protects anything. and with me having almost 6k in 100% over injectors I just want proof that it's going to actually protect my poor investment. S&S for the win here!
There really should be no reason to have to add all of this aftermarket crap. If Ford thinks that the CP4 pump is problematic, they should have it re-engineered or install a similar fuel system filter to catch the metal.
The CP4 really isn't the problem. It's our shit diesel fuel. Cp4 failures don't happen anywhere near as much in Europe as they do here. Working at roush and I never seen a cp4 fail while it was running "cert fuel".
@@codyphillips48Ford , Chevy and Ram knew this about the US diesel fuel, so why did they put the CP4 in their trucks and sell them in the US. At least Ram said o-$$hitt and dropped the Cp-4. Ford and Chevy just says it the fault of bad diesel. Money to be made
So I'm a huge S&S fan and I self-installed this kit and absolutely love it. That being said, I'd love to see a third party test. It would prove some nay sayers wrong. Arod, you've got nothing else going on, get on it🤣
Come on man…. I ordered a 6.7 last year… I don’t even have it yet… still waiting…and it needs this?? I love your channel and am definitely going to keep watching… but only hearing from my buddies that already have one the 6.7L is amazing!
You may or may not have had any experience with these but what do you think about the SPE disaster prevention kit? Awesome video btw I change both fuel filters every oil change and run fuel treatments and I’m still worried about it.
What are the chances the dealership would want to help with the install of the kit ? I would love to have a good working relationship with my purchasing dealership. So far not so much...
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I'm guessing your right. They aren't the most helpful or friendly people I have met. If I was closer my truck would always come to you.
My Father lives in Flushing. Im going to visit him and would like to schedule my cp4 replacement while I'm there. I was thinking of towing my 2021 wrangler ecodiesel up with me. Can you do a RCD CPX install on the wrangler? Or do you have a recommendation for a replacement of the cp4 on my EcoDiesel?
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod how their video cuts to black and in text they give results that the rail injectors etc were clean, it would have been nice to see the pieces. In the same breathe i dont know how important that would be since some debri would be not visible to the eye. I guess my big concern with this kit is exactly how much is it doing. Conceptually its great. I think they have some smart guys at S&S and i dont want to downplay or trash talk their products. My major concern ill put in a seperate comment.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod when a HPFP fails and sends metal throughout the fuel system, what size are those particles? Are they all above 9 microns so their return filter catches everything? Or does some make it by their filter and into the system anyways? What size contaminent is the max the fuel system can take without needing replacement?
For the new trucks under warranty, will adding this kit cause any warranty issues? I can see a dealer seeing this kit and using it as leverage for not fixing an issue under warranty.
The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block. If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block. If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block. If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
Looking at new diesel pickups. So far Ford and the 6.7 liter Powerstroke are leading the pack. Would it be beneficial to add an Air Dogg Filter system to the truck right when I got it? And, will it affect my warranty?
CP four is a shrapnel grenade don’t have that problem with the old V pump on my 91.5 although I will say one thing with these new Injection systems if you can get them working Reiten stuff like that I highly highly recommend an Exter lubricant in your fuel to help lubricators injectors and your pump and all that stuff but anyhow I’ve been seeing a guy was saying that he had his internals coded with diamond like coatings on his CP three pump I think that be the way to go this is six in a row jim This is a Jim mungai from Kennerdell Pennsylvania
I’m defiantly sold on this kit. Once I researched how it works I feel it should be common sense to install the kit. Quick question I have is… I’ve got a 22 F-350 currently with 18k miles on her… at what mileage should I install this filter system?
Ok thank. Another question how quickly should I do this I’m driving a 17 f350 with about 136 Thousand do my oil change about by mileage or color of oil and fuel filter change every other oil change and use hotshot every day fuel treatment on every fill up
Well arrrrgh I think cp4 is possibly failing...driving freeway, filter clean cycle on, had to pass a car and power went wonky/ inconsistent. Got off ramp and she has very little power kinda like limp mode. Looking for vids of real world symptoms A'rod point me in right direction? Been doing Oil every 5K, fuel filter changes every 10K and running Stanadyne additive...am nauseated if this is a 10K+ repair...should I drop the water separator and look for shavings?
The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block. If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
Hey buddy I could really use your advice I have 2 f550 7.3 powerstrokes cab and chassis one dump body Another hooklift dumpster truck so do haul heavy but the 7.3 powerstroke seems to do the job just fine. I would like to buy a new truck soon and have been very worried about getting a new diesel because of the repair costs so was considering buying 7.3 gas f550. How would that compare to what I have now and would you recommend it in this situation
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod it’s the spe kit. Ordered a while ago before the S&s kits were in stock. All kits are the same principle though so I figured you might have some ideas for this fuel pressure drop. Truck is running a fass 220 so lift pump pressure is not an issue
.....just as i suspected. With that current info now given, I can no longer comment. P.S. although the name of the kits are very similar, the products ARE NOT
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I’d love a comparison video showing what makes the S&s such a superior product. To the consumer it looks just like any other kit. Fuel line splitter with a fca spacer to feed both ends of the cp4. Return filter to catch rerouted debris. Some kits actually come with AN lines which many people prefer over push connects 🧐
Bro, I think CP4 is Over Exaggerated! There are Millions of 6.7’s on the road with No issues at all Obviously Any part can Fail after enough hours of Use. I replaced my CP4 after watching all these videos on my 2014 F-450 with 200k miles. I also Sent my injectors my CP4 to local testing company called “Becks” here in Los Angeles. One of my injectors failed the test but they said that my CP4 passed. Given this is all preventative maintenance. At this point I replaced CP4, ALL Injectors, both of the rails and all the lines to injectors. I also installed newest S&S kit. Bro I think this CP4 is over exaggerated. Making guys like me nervous about a good CP4 When I reached 200k I thought my CP4 will explode 😂. Nothing happened I have test results of CP4 by a diesel testing lab. Truck now has all these new parts which it didn’t really need…. Lol
I hear ya, and you’re right… some never have a problem. Those that do spend over $10k for replacement of the fuel system. This is cheap insurance. The people that have had to deal with this would say the CP4 implosion is not over-exaggerated. Except for my neighbor… you would think an atomic bomb went off in his truck. He also apparently fainted, the dramatic little b!+(h.
@@ryanteter haha 😂, I don’t mind the Cheap insurance, but it’s one of those “While ya in there scenario” You can spend $2-3k in new parts. I understand the guys with newer 2020/21 trucks it’s a quick cheap upgrade.
Given the history of failed CP4's why is this kit not installed by Ford? Why does Ford continue to use a high pressure pump that is known to fail. GM stepped away from the CP4 in 2017 for a Denso HP4 which is a different design and does not fail. RAM tried the CP4 in 2019 and now is recalling them due to failure. If Ford does not care then why buy one?
Will a cp4 disaster prevention kit void my warranty?
No, + read the comments & the lable under your hood....driver side😉
The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block.
If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
Copy paste
Awesome thanks. What about if I put a cold and hot side after market with a cold air intake?
Nope
I'm brand new to the world of diesel engines. I put the S&S Disaster prevention kit on my 2019 6.7L myself. It took just alittle more time than the pros, but i did it. Read and watch videos on installation. No leaks, run just fine and what a piece of mind.
22 years driving diesels, I have almost never ever gotten water in my fuel.
Yeah I'm santa claus you never opened your fuel filters then
I asked you about this a few months back on your podcast and you didn't have any input on it. I'm so glad you posted this so we now know how great this product works and the money you can save down the road if disaster happens.
I got mine installed last weekend! Thanks for all the help!!
Was waiting on buying this till i saw or heard of a cp4 pump fail with this system installed and it protecting the fuel system. will be adding this to my truck soon. Thanks for the video
Watch our install video!!
After having a CP4 failure, I do want to install one of these. I think I'd prefer the glass bottom filter though, in hopes of seeing the first few "sparklies" before the pump comes completely apart, potentially leaving me on the side of the road again.
Yes i do too & have ZERO issues getting replacement filters
@@jamesw.6931 The pump failed at 162,000mi. I change fuel filters (Motorcraft 4615) every other oil change, and drain the separator every couple fuel stops into a glass jar to look for water and never saw any. I mailed a fuel sample to a lab after the failure and they said they saw nothing wrong with it. I requested the dealer either inspect the cores, or allow me to see if there was rust on the left rail valves and sensors (in case some water escaped me), they refused.
Maybe I was just one of the "lucky ones" the roller bucket flipped on.
Only allowed 1. The kit is not set up for two.
Ur local guy must be way out in left feild.....u can order filters one by one from Accuratediesel dot com. Ask for Tim ull see what i am talking about. ......to order 25 yea im thinkin um no
@@jamesw.6931 I buy Motorcraft PM22 by the gallon jug from the local parts depot (refilling the 20oz bottle I keep in the truck), and use that or Hot Shot's EDT every fuel stop.
Get the kit. My CP4 blew at 124K $11000 to fix and had to wait weeks for the ford factory parts. $400 is cheep insurance. I used reputable fuel and changed filters religiously at 10k. I did not use an additive. I use fords diesel additive now with every tank. I also installed the Fass assist. I highly recommend. It removes even more dirt air and “99%” of the water. Truck ran smoother immediately after the install.
What did it do when it failed ? Mines throwing no codes at all and the fuel filters are clean and new at that
Mine is going in next Saturday. Thanks ARod for getting me set up!
Can't wait, see you then 😉
Awesome video Arod….. good timing…..just got my S & S kit on my 22. Awesome kit. Also did HS Motorsports hot/cold CAC tubes. Awesome day to do it. Thanks again for all your videos. They really help out…..😊
Gotchu broski💪💪
Ahh, now last weeks live session makes sense! First thing I would do when getting a 6.7 is a S&S kit!
that IS very good. i like that CP4 disaster prevention kit system
Love the idea of the site glass setup. Just wish it was maintenance free.
I'm glad you installed this on my truck. One day tho I think it would help if you did a whiteboard to show the flow of fuel and how it saves us from a $$$ huge repair. Those ppl saying this is what my warranty is for, this is true but can you put a price on having your truck in the shop out of service for a big repair? Great video.
Thanks bud, only way togo!!
great！My 2021 250 is sitting at dealership for almost 2 months. They are still replacing the whole diesel fuel system!
Unfortunately it's the new normal. It's either no parts or not enough techs.
My buddy just got his truck back after waiting 6 months from hitting a deer. The amount of backordered parts for the repair was crazy.
Bummer
Great, love it! 💪💪 Will add it to the list of upgrades.
On the test video, I would like for them to have walked us through the process of setup, testing, how/what they are testing, and then the failure.
I understood from the 2min clip, but, not really presented in such a way that would make a non-believer a believer.
I remember seeing this s&s video. It was awesome.
Should I get this or go with the DCR 2015 f250 168k
DCR all day
Very well said thanks for all the information brother
I definitely need to rewatch your install video to see if this is something I can install. Don’t think I can do it 😭 Nice product 👍🏼👍🏼
I did it myself and I'm a shadetree mechanic. My biggest recommendation is wear gloves because the plastic cowl will cut the s*** out of your hands!
This should be "Drop the Mic" moment!!!👌👍👏...Enough Said get S&S dpk NOW!!!!!!
Done!
Hello 👋. Sold. Need one.
Especially with today’s fuel issue. Need to feel a little safer. Don’t want to replace injectors. Just because of bad fuel. Thanks 🙏🏼 for the info 🤩😎
Howdy
🤠
Now people want to see it done on a truck. A test bench is not good enough for people for some people😂
💯💯💯 😂
You mean like me lol
I'm familiar with the kit with the Donaldson filter have they come out with a newer filter system and hose system and bypass block?
No
I’m thinking this would quickly void your Ford factory 100k engine warranty. Right?
Im thinking you're tbinking wrong
I have the S&S kit on my 2017. If in the event of a failure with one these kits on, besides the CP4 pump, what else would need to be replaced?
The lines on engine HPFP
There is a new filter in the Gen2.1 that is no longer a 2 micron and doesn’t have see through bottom I wonder if that will effect protection? I ordered the new Billet Alumium for the new filter haven’t installed yet till the Gen2 needs to be changed.
Is Ford still using the CP4 pump on the 2023 superduty ?
Would you recommend I install this on my 2021? I change my filters every other oil change without fail. My oil changes are every 3K miles, so my fuel filters every 6K miles. I use additives with every tank of fuel. My truck has just over 10K miles on it right now.
Yes yes & YES! CALL ME we talk
Oil changes every 3k? Fuel filters every other oil change? Man sure sounds like a bunch of wasted $!
Wait ur driving a duty, are you cryin'
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod no, just seems like a bunch of wasted $, if he feels like wasting $ changing parts so soon then more power to him
@@freethinkingamerican80 fluids and filters are cheaper than engine and fuel system repairs or replacements. It also helps being a dealership technician as well, not having to pay full price for the fluids and filters.
Can you tell me what I should expect cost wise to have this installed how many hours it would take, etc. thanks in advance
Depends who is installing it
My dealer is telling me not to buy the kit. Why? Why? Why?
Ur dealer is fulla
Read the white sticker over ur LF head lamp. Tell em get bent.
I have one sitting on my parts shelf from when I had a beautiful 2015 Platinum 6.7 with 120k on it, but I sold the truck before I could put it on. I just can't bring myself to spend the hours putting it on my 2021 Tremor 6.7 when I have the 100k extended warranty... if I fall victim to the failure, either way the truck is going down and as long as it wasn't proved to be my fault, Ford is fixing it. What's the book hours on a CP4 job vs full failure job? I could see maybe if I was hot shotting and it made a several day turnaround difference while I'm on the road to get "just" a CP4 job vs a full replacement.
Now, if I keep the truck past 100k and the repairs become my problem... you're damn right I'm putting one on!
I want to rescind my comment after watching S&S’s recent video where they purposely failed their CP4 on a 2016 and drove it to UCC. My previous comment/thought assumed that when the CP4 failed even with the S&S DPK you would be stranded from failure. It appears that is not the case and the CP4 can continue to run even while severely damaged, as long as you have the DPK filtering. I now see value in installing my DPK even though I’m under warranty because limping it somewhere safe vs stopping dead is a big difference.
Seeeeee
What Fuel Additives would you recommend?? Thanks for any info
Hotshots or amsoil....use our code ptt on hss site!
Thank you so much. Will do!!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod what do you think about fords additive? I’m about to switch to hot shots for the easy bottle. The ford is just a gallon. Pain in the butt to measure and pour.
Im DONE with the ford additive
this right here Is things I want to see. I've been building my 6.7 for a few years after cylinder 4 decided it wanted to be nasa and go to the moon. thanks to covid it took a year just to get all the parts to complete my engine. it's a fully built engine, stage 2 trans done by Sam Wyse too. MPD compounds and at the moment a rcd stroker, waiting for H&S to send the dual fueler kit been on back order since October... I bought the SPE disaster kit but I've had a few mishaps that really messed up a lot so I didn't want to use it. plus no one had any proof that it protects anything. and with me having almost 6k in 100% over injectors I just want proof that it's going to actually protect my poor investment. S&S for the win here!
Dont make a mistake & use sub par equipment on that build....🧐
Few guys have had complaints about the SPE one. Use s&s.
No kidddddddin
There really should be no reason to have to add all of this aftermarket crap. If Ford thinks that the CP4 pump is problematic, they should have it re-engineered or install a similar fuel system filter to catch the metal.
Why dont you call Dearborn & tell them that.
The CP4 really isn't the problem. It's our shit diesel fuel. Cp4 failures don't happen anywhere near as much in Europe as they do here. Working at roush and I never seen a cp4 fail while it was running "cert fuel".
@@codyphillips48 answer is golden ^^
@@codyphillips48Ford , Chevy and Ram knew this about the US diesel fuel, so why did they put the CP4 in their trucks and sell them in the US. At least Ram said o-$$hitt and dropped the Cp-4. Ford and Chevy just says it the fault of bad diesel. Money to be made
So I'm a huge S&S fan and I self-installed this kit and absolutely love it. That being said, I'd love to see a third party test. It would prove some nay sayers wrong. Arod, you've got nothing else going on, get on it🤣
Gimmie a free cp4....ill do it now
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod When I swap mine out with the 10mm stroker, I’ll ship mine to you. 👍🏼
Come on man…. I ordered a 6.7 last year… I don’t even have it yet… still waiting…and it needs this?? I love your channel and am definitely going to keep watching… but only hearing from my buddies that already have one the 6.7L is amazing!
U will NOT be let down
Get the kit. My cp4 blew at 124k 11,000 to fix.
Strip club neon flashing in the background… 😉
You may or may not have had any experience with these but what do you think about the SPE disaster prevention kit? Awesome video btw I change both fuel filters every oil change and run fuel treatments and I’m still worried about it.
there is a comment about that already. Between customer service and it being known to set low fuel pressure lights s&s is the way to go.
What are the chances the dealership would want to help with the install of the kit ? I would love to have a good working relationship with my purchasing dealership. So far not so much...
They most likely are gonna tell ya to get lost. I mean ill do it
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I'm guessing your right. They aren't the most helpful or friendly people I have met. If I was closer my truck would always come to you.
My Father lives in Flushing. Im going to visit him and would like to schedule my cp4 replacement while I'm there. I was thinking of towing my 2021 wrangler ecodiesel up with me. Can you do a RCD CPX install on the wrangler? Or do you have a recommendation for a replacement of the cp4 on my EcoDiesel?
I stay away from those. Juss 6.7s
Understood. Let me know how to schedule with you for my 6.7.
Can you email us???
@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod absolutely,, website or email address please.
Love your videos bud. But why didnt they show us the results of uncontaminated fuel components? Maybe i missed something.
Thanks pal, whatya mean
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod how their video cuts to black and in text they give results that the rail injectors etc were clean, it would have been nice to see the pieces. In the same breathe i dont know how important that would be since some debri would be not visible to the eye. I guess my big concern with this kit is exactly how much is it doing. Conceptually its great. I think they have some smart guys at S&S and i dont want to downplay or trash talk their products. My major concern ill put in a seperate comment.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod when a HPFP fails and sends metal throughout the fuel system, what size are those particles? Are they all above 9 microns so their return filter catches everything? Or does some make it by their filter and into the system anyways? What size contaminent is the max the fuel system can take without needing replacement?
You should check out S&S video they did purposely failing their HPFP with the kit in it & drove it catching all debris. Was pretty good.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks buddy! Keep up the good work!
My question is that by adding this to my truck (2021), will it negatively effect the warranty?
Comments.....
No we already we t over it big guy 🙋♂️
Short answer no
Would you recommend this over the spe kit?
100% yes
Definitely go S&S
Honestly not surprised that Ford still uses this pump. Why would they use something that’s reliable?
I’m sold, going to order this kit up. I do it myself unless you have a recommendation for someone in Minneapolis Minnesota area?
Accuratediesel dot com, ask for tim. Tell em ur from the ptt fam. Been sending everyone his way. Ford boss me is in Chicago 🤷♂️
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod cool thanks. After reading up on the new kit I’ll do it myself.
You're more likely to have a filter housing connector failure than a CP4 failure.
For the new trucks under warranty, will adding this kit cause any warranty issues? I can see a dealer seeing this kit and using it as leverage for not fixing an issue under warranty.
Read the sticker above your left head lamp, yes under your hood & you will answer your own question
The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block.
If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
Does anyone know if this voids warranty?
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The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block.
If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
question, would this somehow void the factory ford warranty if added to the truck?
Please read the comments
The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block.
If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
Looking at new diesel pickups. So far Ford and the 6.7 liter Powerstroke are leading the pack. Would it be beneficial to add an Air Dogg Filter system to the truck right when I got it? And, will it affect my warranty?
I dont c any need to. Oem lift pumps r pretty good
CP four is a shrapnel grenade don’t have that problem with the old V pump on my 91.5 although I will say one thing with these new Injection systems if you can get them working Reiten stuff like that I highly highly recommend an Exter lubricant in your fuel to help lubricators injectors and your pump and all that stuff but anyhow I’ve been seeing a guy was saying that he had his internals coded with diamond like coatings on his CP three pump I think that be the way to go this is six in a row jim This is a Jim mungai from Kennerdell Pennsylvania
I’m defiantly sold on this kit. Once I researched how it works I feel it should be common sense to install the kit. Quick question I have is… I’ve got a 22 F-350 currently with 18k miles on her… at what mileage should I install this filter system?
Since day one....but u can start now
So question for you man would you recommend the the Disaster prevention kit or the bypass one ? Because I know you have talked about both of them
I like the gen one perosnally. U can get replacment gen 1 filters with esse thru Accuratediesel dot com
Ok thank. Another question how quickly should I do this I’m driving a 17 f350 with about 136 Thousand do my oil change about by mileage or color of oil and fuel filter change every other oil change and use hotshot every day fuel treatment on every fill up
Aint gonna do any good sittin in the box, na meeeen
Well arrrrgh I think cp4 is possibly failing...driving freeway, filter clean cycle on, had to pass a car and power went wonky/ inconsistent. Got off ramp and she has very little power kinda like limp mode. Looking for vids of real world symptoms A'rod point me in right direction? Been doing Oil every 5K, fuel filter changes every 10K and running Stanadyne additive...am nauseated if this is a 10K+ repair...should I drop the water separator and look for shavings?
I wld be running the selftests
Still gonna do a fuel system if there is def contamination or gas contamination correct?
Yup you are. This saves you from a failing cp4 only. Not gonna save you from yourself.
Thank u!!!
so if I put this on my truck and it fails who picks up the bill on the new fuel system .
It wont
those lights in the background tho
Liggggghts
Does it void warrantee ?
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The short answer is no it won't affect your warranty. Ford/dealer must prove the disaster prevention kit cause the failure. This would be impossible as all your adding is a filter and adapter block.
If your under warranty and the pump fails under warranty your getting a complete system anyways. Just due to the way warranty works. Well I should correct myself if the failure was warrantable in the first place. This meaning there was no rush, water, gas, def, or other contamination on the vcv or in the filters. Pulling the PCV is no longer needed per the fuel system GSB
@@codyphillips48 thank you !
I have a 2015 6.7, what's the cost of the install?
Thats up to who installs it
I get that, but a ruff price, or average? What is your price?
U can email me
S&S are waiting for their CARB number in CA, I spoke with them last week, I did not ask about the warranty though🤦♂️🤷♂️
Hey buddy
I could really use your advice
I have 2 f550 7.3 powerstrokes
cab and chassis one dump body
Another hooklift dumpster truck
so do haul heavy but the 7.3 powerstroke seems to do the job just fine. I would like to buy a new truck soon and have been very worried about getting a new diesel because of the repair costs so was considering buying 7.3 gas f550. How would that compare to what I have now and would you recommend it in this situation
Get it! But u better change the god damn oil man. Every 5k or 200 hours. Thats it
I don't believe the competitors are willing to do a demonstration like this 🤔
Installed a disaster kit on a 6.7 last week and now in power levels 4 and 5 it throws a reduced engine power code for low rail pressure. Any ideas?
"A" kit......which one 🤦♂️
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod it’s the spe kit. Ordered a while ago before the S&s kits were in stock. All kits are the same principle though so I figured you might have some ideas for this fuel pressure drop. Truck is running a fass 220 so lift pump pressure is not an issue
.....just as i suspected. With that current info now given, I can no longer comment.
P.S. although the name of the kits are very similar, the products ARE NOT
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I’d love a comparison video showing what makes the S&s such a superior product. To the consumer it looks just like any other kit. Fuel line splitter with a fca spacer to feed both ends of the cp4. Return filter to catch rerouted debris. Some kits actually come with AN lines which many people prefer over push connects 🧐
Sorry pal....thats all I have 2 say.
You are preaching to the choir here and I have been to see the preacher... Bwhaha
DOES THIS KILL THE WARRANTY?????
No. Ford/dealer has to prove that the kit caused the failure. How can I filter and adapter block cause a failure?
No
Nice, thnx
I’m sure the naysayers will still have something to say and argue this isn’t good enough or whatever.
O they already have. Test bench is not good enough.
D’MAX doesn’t have that option which saves you BIG money but I just did the CP3 so I don’t have to worry at all anymore but it was a MF’r!
Took my cp4 off the truck I don’t need it I have holly carburetor 4 barrels pumper
Good call. Maybe an old school 2 barrel would be good with these fuel prices.
Do u have a link to purchase
Read description kind sir
Would love to see the SPE one in that test.
Definitely no comment
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod 😂
I had mine fail with it and it fucked every return component, but barely saved the injectors. S&S all day long
Well at LEAST someone knows what hes talking about 🤦♂️
Bro, I think CP4 is Over Exaggerated! There are Millions of 6.7’s on the road with No issues at all
Obviously Any part can Fail after enough hours of Use.
I replaced my CP4 after watching all these videos on my 2014 F-450 with 200k miles.
I also Sent my injectors my CP4 to local testing company called “Becks” here in Los Angeles.
One of my injectors failed the test but they said that my CP4 passed.
Given this is all preventative maintenance.
At this point I replaced CP4, ALL Injectors, both of the rails and all the lines to injectors.
I also installed newest S&S kit.
Bro I think this CP4 is over exaggerated. Making guys like me nervous about a good CP4
When I reached 200k I thought my CP4 will explode 😂.
Nothing happened I have test results of CP4 by a diesel testing lab.
Truck now has all these new parts which it didn’t really need…. Lol
I hear ya, and you’re right… some never have a problem. Those that do spend over $10k for replacement of the fuel system. This is cheap insurance. The people that have had to deal with this would say the CP4 implosion is not over-exaggerated. Except for my neighbor… you would think an atomic bomb went off in his truck. He also apparently fainted, the dramatic little b!+(h.
@@ryanteter haha 😂, I don’t mind the Cheap insurance, but it’s one of those “While ya in there scenario”
You can spend $2-3k in new parts. I understand the guys with newer 2020/21 trucks it’s a quick cheap upgrade.
Put one on my 2016
Ok
Shouldn't those guys be waring goggle instead of helmets...…. pressurized fluids and all.
Nahhhh, childs play
Helmets with no face Shields interesting
Given the history of failed CP4's why is this kit not installed by Ford? Why does Ford continue to use a high pressure pump that is known to fail. GM stepped away from the CP4 in 2017 for a Denso HP4 which is a different design and does not fail. RAM tried the CP4 in 2019 and now is recalling them due to failure. If Ford does not care then why buy one?
Sounds like you should be asking your fellas down in Dearborn
You shouldn't have to put an aftermarket product on your truck to fix a Ford issue which they refuse to fix.IMHO
......why wait for them to do it when someone else has stepped up
How much
For
Filter
Look their kit up
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod what’s the mystery white anybody could give us an idea how much approximately ballpark me on an install???
I do not post monetary values on this platform
Bought spe
May the force be with you
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Was this a paid review?
It wld have said in the video if it was...
that's from easy rider!
What is
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod the helmet design...lol don't mind me just an old fart that remembers it from the day...
I was likw what was...lol gotcha👍
So when you coming to Florida to put it on my 350? I got beer and plenty good food 😎🍺
Ill take the food & a plane ticket....u can keep the brew 🤢🤮🤢
But i do have a guy down there tho that is MORE than capable to do so
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod sounds good to me
Where is the friend ? I am fully capable as well. Just don’t have time
Winterhaven
I can do without the DJ voice
Ski away then