The XYZ domain tells us everything we need. That is the mark of a quality company. But the vest and jacket are interesting. But as Nate accurately points out, "it just sorta happens"- arms, neck, sides
Everyone expected the Spanish Inquisition. There was an Edict of Grace for 30 days when they came into a town where people could come forward, confess their heresies and be forgiven. Edit: I like ruining jokes.
There there, it's only for this video. Go watch another video to recover from this sacrilege. You need more brigantine in your life, no? You came to the right place if so.
doing bodyguard work for a VERY high profile/high threat client the general kit for public galas is a Lvl IIIA stab/cut resistant hybrid vest with a Lvl IV ceramic plate in the back under our suits. The hybrid vests can take a helluva beating, being designed to resist icepicks and chisel-point tanto-style blades as well as conventional knives. But I am now left wondering just how well it would stack up to a bec 🤣
If someone landed a bec hit on that high threat client in a gala you guys are either doing the job very wrong or are all just curious about what will happen🤣, I wonder about rondel daggers though.
Doesn't matter. Either the VIP woudl be dead from the hole or dead from 5 broken bones poking 5 holes from the blunt force. Though I am happy to see this tested in reality if I think of certain VIPs...
When testing armor, consider applying colored construction chalk to the edges of the weapons so you can mark your strikes, you can color code which weapon is causing which damage.
Theoretically slash resistant fabric is cut into pieces with scissors or a rotary cutter, then sewn together with needle and thread. I think a lot of your test either redundant or just to prove to slow children that its not the same thing as plate.
Hear is a question for you, maybe even a video idea. In my past I worked as a security guard at a hospital. We were issued ballistic vests from a major manufacturer (Second Chance), the vests were custom made to our measurements. Working in a hospital we were surrounded by medical equipment and people that knew how to use it. We also had rare periods when things were not crazy and we would get bored. When you get bored you play with the toys available. What we learned was that when wearing properly fitted modern body armor, our vital signs were worse then without it. The change in vitals was very rapid. On average my blood pressure would increase by 10 points in the systolic and diastolic. My pulse would increase by 10-15 beats per minute, and my blood oxygenation would drop by 2-3%. These finding where backed up by a study on the effects of wearing body armor conducted by the Indian army. To my knowledge there are no other studies. Probably because no one wants their soldiers or police to stop wearing the stuff for health reasons. My question is: Does older armor, like you use and test, have the same negative health effects on the wearer? Not sure how interesting a video that would be, but the idea is free for the taking, just pass it on if you do not use it.
@@Ambrosinae I think it was the compression, but no way to be sure. It will never be studied. Can you imagine what would happen if every cop and soldier found out there were long term health effects for wearing armor? The liability for their agencies for mandating it would be insane.
Pretty sure that would actually be Jaxon County Missouri. Utah was mearly the place where the US government decided the Mormons were far enough away to not concern themselves with in anything more then passing. Also at that time Utah was called Desseret.
@@Burning_Ent Nah The government continued to bother us in Utah and sent out the army multiple times to make sure we weren't raising an army against the federal government.
@@zerabp1130 I knew the government sent the army out of what was technically the union at the time once during the construction of the Salt Lake Temple. This forced the residents of Desseret to bury the foundation of the temple so the army would not believe that they were building a Fortress.
Those stab resistant materials are not stab-proof, they offer some degree (higher or lower) of protection from stabbing. This shirt stopped some attempts of stabbing but not all, hence is stab resistant but not stab-proof.
@@_DarkEmperor do you mean in this video? Or product reviews? Because im pretty sure I saw every stab and thrust go through that shirt. You're totally welcome to just reply with a timestamp or something if you saw what I didn't.
@@bungeetoonsthis the main problem is there's sod all coverage, it's resistant not proof and the coverage is dogshit... Thing to remember Always GO CUSTOM FIT.
@@_DarkEmperorBy that logic, you could sell anything as "stab-resistant," because it provides some resistance when stabbing, just by the merit of being in the way. Moldy cake, a dead cat, 2 garden gnomes, a Haribo gummy bear, a kebab, ... All "stab-resistant."
It's like modern military armor, it won't offer full coverage, not even close, it's a numbers game where it only covers a percentage of the torso and you just have to cross your fingers.
Sometime life and death is a numbers game. Sure if you were Salman Rushdie you'd still be missing an eye but would've had a lot less to stick together. Maybe the resistance would've pushed the attack to focus on more lethal areas though, hard to say.
But the jacket, and possibly the vest, offer less protection than a flak vest does and it's uncertain whether or not it's upgradable like some plate carriers which can add side plates. So it is and isn't comparable to modern military issue body armor.
One of the most British news headline I have ever seen was "Cop's life saved by stab-proof vest ... but her mum had to buy it for her!" Also "You don't start with a bazooka when testing armour!" has to be one of the most Shad lines of all times!
I would be uncomfortable if I had men lusting after me like that. Women on the other hand... I'd probably still run lol. That much attention can only mean trouble.
I really liked that jacket, it looks exactly like a jacket i usually wear outside and that's pretty clever of them to design a jacket that doesn't look any different from regular jackets.
Aaand exactly. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure Security has ALWAYS been a measure of relative safety. If you look like a harder mark than somebody else, you're less likely to get knifed, assuming no personal grudges That said, it's not super wise to fully telegraph exactly what your defences are, because nothing is entirely foolproof and one good stab in the right area can compromise your safety regardless
Tbf , if you do get stabbed and "got isekai'd", it may reduce the percentage of native people in london...so it would look good on their government data. (based on their "representation" goals)
Fun fact: when I was in USMC Boot Camp, we trained with flak jackets, which were a protective clothing not meant to stop any actual ammunition, but hypothetically were able to protect you from shrapnel or knives. They were fairly lightweight and flexible compared to their strength, and were made with a kevlar weave. One of the many things we had to do in training was the bayonet course in which we had to stab a dummy wearing a real flak jacket, and we did not pass the course unless we were able to jam the bayonet through the kevlar and into the dummy.
I live in London and I've considered trying to get ahold of something like this many times. There have been quite a few stabbings around me some random
As long as you do not live in the western provinces of Canada (Manitoba west) body armour is legal in Canada including the Territories. I’m in Alberta and can very easily get a permit to wear if I wanted. I think it’s more about the government knowing what you have.
@@markwalker4485The fact that you require a license is evidence that Canada is too far gone. You have restrictions on speech, arms, and assembly. That makes you a nation of servants.
Not very surprising at all, to the best of my knowledge there is not stab resistant fabric out there, yet, that can stop or resist a stab without multiple layers. Even Kevlar is known to do poorly vs. stabs unless you use lots and lots of layers or unless you glue them together to form solid plates in the same way they make Kevlar helmets.
@Riceball01 Just multiple layers of nylon works. The old US Army Flak vest will stop a full bore knife trust with deadly intent. Source: Witnessing a knife attack on a battle buddy. The attacker was taken to the ground and detained as an enemy combatant. Yes, obviously, this was before we got IBA.
These "areas" shouldn't be what they are now. That's something the local governments are responsible for due to their open border policies. It can and should be reversed.
I'm kinda starting to dig the continuous squabble between them. It must be difficult to nail the right ammount so it's not too much or too little, but I really like it so far ~
Yeah, I think they're starting to learn when to make the right cut for timing. It has run on far too long in past videos, for sure. I'm positive they've seen comments and learned.
"You're unlikely to come up against katanas and rambo knives" Shad... you've been to wales. Cardiff at night can be crazy, but next time come to the valleys it what we call a tuesday
I was in Cardiff last spring. Caught an early train on Saturday with my wife and kids. Can confirm. The party was getting started when we went to bed. The zombies, who had looked like corpses collapsed on the street all day, started to stir as the sun set. People literally rose out of the tall grass in the park near the castle. It was freaking creepy, and we were glad to get inside for the night. Down town was a disater area in the morning. My ten year old was cursed out by a vagrant just for looking in his direction from thirty feet away. He started following us but backed off when I turned in his direction so the family could skedaddle. Loved our visit otherwise. Took a guided Doctor Who tour. Terrance, our tour guide, was fantastic. We kept in touch and exchanged christmas cards. The rest of the city was absolutely lovely as well. Shame about the party zombies.
@crwydryny I meant every word : ) Still loved our visit. After we got home, I built a wooden castle for the kids. 20x25, and twelve feet at its tallest with four towers and a two story keep. The kids named it "Yardiff Castle". Cardiff left an impression : )
I were workshop brigandine tailored to fit under a sleeveless vests. I had my 5th shiving attempt against me by 14 & ever since I do not leave my residence in London without gorged, brig with groin protection & secrete under a cap or hat. wear what you please but I will wear 16 to 18 gauge surface hardened steel at 19 Ib's but I did lighten it with some titanium of 1.5 mil gauge but they are cheap though I got as scrap being a former fabrication Engineer till my failed health I would take scrap bit & ends of titanium that no one would miss. My brigandine modified over 14 years now weighs 12 & 1/2s Ib's. I still trust steel more then Titanium but I'm not as young & fit as I once was since I got corona in 2020 which knocked me side ways. If it was not for the cost & hazard I would like plates of silicon carbide as it is a 1/4 the weight of Titanium which is nearly 1/2 the weight of steel. Silicon carbide is 9.5 Moh's while hardened steel & titanium is about 6. You could make a vest or brig of silicon come out at about 7ib's which is nothing. My secrete & gorget is just hardened aluminium at about 3 Moh's but it is far better then nothing from 1st hand experience. Aluminium covering your neck in segments under your beard is a massive improvement to ones protection. For my limbs I wear a great coat or a thick leather jacket to just below my buttocks & my legs I like tall sturdy boots with putees to knee height. You would be surprised what wrapped up decent fabric can sustain against but foot work is best in combat for if you are moving then the opponent shouldn't get at your legs. People just think I'm eccentric in my appearance but it is all practical. I can wear a suit even & people don't notice so the bulk is not noticeable since I tailored it to by frame.
Considering that body armour is illegal in Australia for civilians, this could be the best way to protect oneself if you're worried about being attacked.
Is it all body armour or just bullet resistant armor? I know in Canada in many provinces you need your gun license to get body armour, but stab proof stuff is exempt. They might rule these prohibited if the plates can stop even small arms fire though
being nitpicky : the tests on the chainmail are kind of useless as the mail is hanging loose and not resting on a solid body, which significantly changes the dynamics of a stab.
You can see how much the blade flexes at 19:25 so there's definitely a lot of force going in to it but the question is what the impulse looks like with that setup. I think the biggest problem is that the mail is effectively doubled up because there's nothing in between the front and back of it.
They have also done proper chainmail testing in past videos, it was mostly done here for quick reference, for those who might not have seen the older videos
@@johnchestnut5340 yeah, which is not a body with the chainmail wrapped around. You can stab the wood through the chainmail with a tip fine enough and it will stop the blade -- the wood will. While on a body you can stab the chainmail and with enough force and a purpose shaped blade you will have a chance at ripping the rivets and penetrating the chainmail. Not half a centimeter but a lot more, since there's no wood to stop the blade. ;) But yes, they did better tests already.
It is so good that Nate is there now to balance the team dynamic. With all those sharp and deadly weapons arround...😅 Jokes aside this was a very interesting video with quite suprising results. I am realy looking forward to the testing of the Raincoat variant. Maybe in a couple of months one of the modern weapons channels makes a gun test for those clothes as well. I'm quite curious wether those plates are actually able to stop small caliber projectiles.
Before it was revealed that the under shirt was in fact an undershirt from the stab proof line, I thought that was a temple garments joke with the blinding light 🤣
Yeah the shirt not being stab proof is a let down, but the fact that a SHIRT stopped a full force slash from a very sharp actual usable sword is pretty damned impressive imo.
I'm not sure how it would help if it was "stab proof". Stab proof how, anyway? Even if the fabric didn't break on the stab, the knife - wrapped around the shirt - would still likely break the skin and enter your bowels. ;)
I have a NIJ-3A+ vest and jacket combo that I wear when I visit sketchy areas, and they aren't overly cumbersome. Even without the plates each will stop a 9mm or a knife, with major bruising, but with plates they're rated up to a .44 Mag.
bulletproof vest don't stop stab, you'd clear that misunderstandings. There are also stab test on bulletproof vest video on youtube. good luck, dear bro.
From a UK perspective, with the exception of the Kitchen knife, you used weapons extremely unlikely to be used in a street attack whilst ignoring the Machete which is frequently used. We have literal machete fights on the streets of some cities and there are frequent attacks with them.
Most kevlar isn't stab resistant. Slash yes, but a drop point knife let alone the blades youre using will go right through even a Bullet resistant vest. This is why there are vests (Police/Military/Ect) have to be rated for specific types of prevention. You can stab straight through a level 3A vest, which can stop bullets. There are Ballistic resistant, Slash resistant, and then Stab/Spike resistant vest ratings. You can get something that is combo rated but they are usually a combo of lower rates armors. I would think the shirt is only rated for slash resistant, not spike/stab resistant. Reason being is the way Kevlar is woven. The tip of a knife/spike will separate the fibers and puncture something that isn't Spike/Tab rated.
finally find a professional comment. that's why there are bulletproof standard and rates, stab proof standard and rates, cut proof standard and rates , seperately.
@@aaaaaa-gq3dv thought they have both; kevlar to tangle the bullet and plate to dissipate the resulting blunt force. Although that'll eventually get into argument what is the plates made of; steel, ceramic, composites..
There was a company in Germany back in the late 90's that made titanium chainmail, mainly for bouncers and bodyguards. Quite fashionable, too. Mostly polo shirts, so you could pop the collar to protect the neck, even. I remember there being a lot of interest, but it was stupid expensive, which is probably why I've never seen that armour in real life. Don't think they're still around.
This happened years ago (in the mid 90s) but was a guy who participated in the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronisms) here in the US. Now this was late at night & he had to be at work later but didn't have time to fully change so just put his work shirt on over the chain mail shirt. Turned his back for a moment on a customer at the checkout & suddenly ended up with a knife in his back. The instant surprise that the assault did nothing let the guy overpower his attacker & subdue until cops arrived. When they did it took 2 cops to pull the knife out of the shirt given how well bound up it was in the links. Injuries were minor...just a couple stitches. Pretty sure he kept wearing that mail under his work shirt after that.
Wonder what a modernised equivalent of a full upper body gambeson would be like, although nobody has tried but I imagine it would offer protection from both blunt force and blade.
Yeah sure that stuff might be of some help against ONE amateur. Against someone who knows where to aim, useless. Against a gang also useless Reminder - cowards prefer to attack like packs of hyenas.
In London, east end youth street gangs stab each other. Elsewhere, you are very, very unlikely to be stabbed. Even if you add the gangs in, still 2x safer for stabbings than anywhere in the USA. I'd walk anywhere any time of day and night in that city, and I have. And you can send your kid to school without them getting shot to death by incels too, obviously.
You should probably have put the chainmail on a dummy as it not having a solid surface behind it but just letting it hang affected the test. Otherwise no complaints. Interesting clothes.
Remind me, wasn't Kamikoto the Chinese company selling low-grade trash falsely branded as Japanese knives? TH-camrs should really be more careful with their sponsorships.
The thing with the tshirt is that even if it was utterly cut resistant youd still get cut under it. Its so thin it would just push the tshirt into the wound
something to keep in mind is Kevlar is a name brand, not all fabrics claiming to be Kevlar actually are. Also Kevlar (brand) never claimed to be stab/cut proof. The way their fabric works is like a catchers mitt for blunt projectiles. Anything sharp will just slash the fabric
This one was quite chaotic, which i usually find kinda annoying but you guys are hilarious together and it just reminds me of being a little kid again and getting so excited with friends for fun shenanigans like this. This is why I love this channel. Thanks guys.
17:55 I got way too much of a kick out of Shad saying "That's actually a good design feature," and then just *immediately* stabbing poor Boromir in the skull. :-p
They take a modular approach, sell empty clothing with armor pockets so you can customize the kind of protection you want and help hit a price point that you want.
As a ballistic-armor admirer, its job is to be tough enough to save your life at least once while being a light as it can. This really looks like it emulates that with stabbing/slashing. A lvl4 plate vest won't stop you from getting shot in the neck but anything that ups your odds of a miss is a win. Plus I'm sure someone wearing this getting attacked would be running or moving, just adding the glancing opportunity is enough to help you run to safety or help without possibly bleeding out.
Another great video, as always, everyone! I have been a fan of Shadiversity for many years, and I have never ceased to be educated and entertained (as a middle-school teacher, I say edutained, lol) by y’all! Keep it up, you fellas are awesome! 😊
Since chainmail is heavy but can conform to any shape really and the plates are light but has a very specific shape it would make sense to make a hybrid with plates surrounded by chainmail
There's a bit of a flaw in your testing method comparison: The chainmail is up against a solid wall taking the full force of any strike, while the figure can fall backwards translating some of the force into movement, meaning it will not take all of it.
The point of any armor is to add protection so an enemy has to do more/different work to hurt you. The situation of a stealthy, in-close quick stab to the gut is a great example for this because the Guardian Wear jacket (coat of plates) protects against it so well. An attacker would be forced to give his attack a bigger wind-up, which itself might mean the difference between a successful defense and death for the defender.
I enjoyed this test. There is one big "BUT" in the protection. The force of the hit on the person even if the soft or medium armor doesn't allow it threw. A stopped blade means it is turned into impact damage. Point impact will sometimes do massive impact damage. It is the reason the true thrust proof armor is more hardened. Even bullets stopped by a vest or plate can transmit the bullet damage to impact damage causing a lot of damage. Even the chain mail has this flaw. It might stop something, but the point of impact still causes a lot of damage. Take Care and Stay Safe, guys.
If you need a warpick or equivalent to go through the vest, thats not bad. I think they might want to do a slight redesign if the sword went right through the upper back. Australians more than most should know that it is likely to be attacked from behind there and the back of the neck.
Very surprised that they had the gall to not only call it stab proof, but also send it to people who actually had the means to put it through it's paces, even if it actually was stab proof.
I don't know for some reason this got me thinking. I remember hearing about improvised armor using duct tape and cardboard that protesters in some country thought up, in some situation, years ago. For the life of me I can't find a reference to it online any longer. Out of idle curiosity I tested it out. Corrugated cardboard no, but the heavier non corrugated stuff( like the boxes humanitarian daily rations ship in for example) has pretty good stab resistance in a couple layers.
Checkout Guardian Wear:
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The shirt is probably some variant of artificial spider silk.
You have tested gambeson, mail, steel plate, tyres, carbon fiber and "stap proof" clothing....... BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS???? lol
The XYZ domain tells us everything we need. That is the mark of a quality company. But the vest and jacket are interesting. But as Nate accurately points out, "it just sorta happens"- arms, neck, sides
Suprised ya'll didnt try pocket knives!
The fact the banner across the top of their website misspells “shipping” isn’t a good sign
Some of us expected it to be stab-proof.
Some of us expected it to NOT be stab-proof.
But none of us expected The Spanish Inquisition.
Everyone expected the Spanish Inquisition. There was an Edict of Grace for 30 days when they came into a town where people could come forward, confess their heresies and be forgiven.
Edit: I like ruining jokes.
I only expected the Mexican Inquisition...
No one ever does or ever did.
Poke them with the SOFT CUSHION!!!!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition
Aaaand the australians finally get to make a 'that's not a knife' joke. Been waiting for that for years.
sadly they missed the opportunity to use a spoon for the bit.
How to make Germans in the room angry: by stealing THEIR joke. (That was a Messer FYI)
So Australians do say, "That's not a knife, this is a knife."
noyf
we do after that episode
*what came first, the londoners, or the australians?*
@GAarcher
Londoners = 47 AD
Australians = ~59,000 BC
I see you've played knifey spoony before
18:00 The way he just casually sinks the knife into Boromir's head just for storage. Comedy gold, that
Felt a bit risky for me, but yeah for that value sure
The one time where the addition of an out-of-the-blue Wilhelm scream or something would have been acceptable.
Had me rolling lol
Poor boromir
"Look, that's actually a good design feature" *STORES STABBY HEAD*
Seeing these guys in normal clothing just feels plain wrong.
There there, it's only for this video. Go watch another video to recover from this sacrilege. You need more brigantine in your life, no? You came to the right place if so.
Shad must be suffering from a Don Quixote moment
When you see your teacher on Saturday at the supermarket
we've fallen far
they do love penetration don't they?
doing bodyguard work for a VERY high profile/high threat client the general kit for public galas is a Lvl IIIA stab/cut resistant hybrid vest with a Lvl IV ceramic plate in the back under our suits. The hybrid vests can take a helluva beating, being designed to resist icepicks and chisel-point tanto-style blades as well as conventional knives. But I am now left wondering just how well it would stack up to a bec 🤣
If someone landed a bec hit on that high threat client in a gala you guys are either doing the job very wrong or are all just curious about what will happen🤣, I wonder about rondel daggers though.
Doesn't matter. Either the VIP woudl be dead from the hole or dead from 5 broken bones poking 5 holes from the blunt force.
Though I am happy to see this tested in reality if I think of certain VIPs...
Things you don't want to hear when on close protection duty:
"Hey Dave, I can't kill him with my bec de corbin, fetch your Lucerne Hammer!"
I mean the ceramic plate might stop it honestly. Those are designed to absorb the energy of an impact by shattering so it might be able to tank it.
the bec goes through, it doesnt care about your feelings or wishes, and if it doesnt pirece, it bonks.
This is for all the British viewers
And Germans
I need this then.
Sadly enough I think body armor is illegal in a lot of those places. No weapon or armor to protect yourself legally.
Statistically more likely to get stabbed in the US
@@psycomutt that sucks...same problem here in Brasil. But i think chainmail is not illegal anywhere lol (i hope so)
When testing armor, consider applying colored construction chalk to the edges of the weapons so you can mark your strikes, you can color code which weapon is causing which damage.
That's a great idea
Yeah, that would really make it more clear.
I agree. This would be ideal.
I say use tailor's chalk, That way if you are wanting to repair for later it isn't permanently stained.
Here are the things I would want to see it tested against:
Screwdriver, Kitchen Knife, Needle, Scissors, Ice Pick
The 1000 and 1 other things that the cops confiscate
Potato peeler, rusty spoon...
Machete.
@@mandowarrior123Rusty-spoon-proof clothing is something every human deserves.
Theoretically slash resistant fabric is cut into pieces with scissors or a rotary cutter, then sewn together with needle and thread. I think a lot of your test either redundant or just to prove to slow children that its not the same thing as plate.
Hear is a question for you, maybe even a video idea.
In my past I worked as a security guard at a hospital. We were issued ballistic vests from a major manufacturer (Second Chance), the vests were custom made to our measurements.
Working in a hospital we were surrounded by medical equipment and people that knew how to use it. We also had rare periods when things were not crazy and we would get bored. When you get bored you play with the toys available.
What we learned was that when wearing properly fitted modern body armor, our vital signs were worse then without it. The change in vitals was very rapid. On average my blood pressure would increase by 10 points in the systolic and diastolic. My pulse would increase by 10-15 beats per minute, and my blood oxygenation would drop by 2-3%. These finding where backed up by a study on the effects of wearing body armor conducted by the Indian army. To my knowledge there are no other studies. Probably because no one wants their soldiers or police to stop wearing the stuff for health reasons.
My question is: Does older armor, like you use and test, have the same negative health effects on the wearer? Not sure how interesting a video that would be, but the idea is free for the taking, just pass it on if you do not use it.
very interesting
That's interesting! Do you feel like it was due to the weight and compression? And/or is it hard to breathe in it or something?
@@Ambrosinae I think it was the compression, but no way to be sure.
It will never be studied. Can you imagine what would happen if every cop and soldier found out there were long term health effects for wearing armor? The liability for their agencies for mandating it would be insane.
When a mormon's talking about 'retaking the holy land', Utah starts sweating.
So that explains the weather over here. Thanks SHAD!
Pretty sure that would actually be Jaxon County Missouri.
Utah was mearly the place where the US government decided the Mormons were far enough away to not concern themselves with in anything more then passing. Also at that time Utah was called Desseret.
@@Burning_Ent Nah The government continued to bother us in Utah and sent out the army multiple times to make sure we weren't raising an army against the federal government.
@@zerabp1130 Why am I hearing the Far Cry 5 theme while reading this? 😂
@@zerabp1130 I knew the government sent the army out of what was technically the union at the time once during the construction of the Salt Lake Temple. This forced the residents of Desseret to bury the foundation of the temple so the army would not believe that they were building a Fortress.
By the way yall are the medieval version of Demolition Ranch. Another very good channel.
Holy smokes. A crossover where Matt can only use the medieval weapons and Shad can only use firearms.🤯
The shirt is classic cut resistant sold as stab resistant
Those stab resistant materials are not stab-proof, they offer some degree (higher or lower) of protection from stabbing.
This shirt stopped some attempts of stabbing but not all, hence is stab resistant but not stab-proof.
@@_DarkEmperor do you mean in this video? Or product reviews? Because im pretty sure I saw every stab and thrust go through that shirt. You're totally welcome to just reply with a timestamp or something if you saw what I didn't.
@@bungeetoonsthis the main problem is there's sod all coverage, it's resistant not proof and the coverage is dogshit...
Thing to remember Always GO CUSTOM FIT.
Yeah I'd expect you to need your ribs strapped afterwards
@@_DarkEmperorBy that logic, you could sell anything as "stab-resistant," because it provides some resistance when stabbing, just by the merit of being in the way.
Moldy cake, a dead cat, 2 garden gnomes, a Haribo gummy bear, a kebab, ...
All "stab-resistant."
Style name: "London Casual".
It's like modern military armor, it won't offer full coverage, not even close, it's a numbers game where it only covers a percentage of the torso and you just have to cross your fingers.
At the end of the day, some protection is better than none
Sometime life and death is a numbers game. Sure if you were Salman Rushdie you'd still be missing an eye but would've had a lot less to stick together. Maybe the resistance would've pushed the attack to focus on more lethal areas though, hard to say.
But the jacket, and possibly the vest, offer less protection than a flak vest does and it's uncertain whether or not it's upgradable like some plate carriers which can add side plates. So it is and isn't comparable to modern military issue body armor.
@@Riceball01 then just wear a tank for a jacket. duh.
Military armor is a cost and numbers thing. What's better 20 thousand vests with 60% coverage or 5 thousand vests at 85% for thr same cost.
One of the most British news headline I have ever seen was "Cop's life saved by stab-proof vest ... but her mum had to buy it for her!"
Also "You don't start with a bazooka when testing armour!" has to be one of the most Shad lines of all times!
Next episode: "We have acquired a medieval bazooka to test armor with!"
Get yourself a man who looks at you the way Tyranth and Shad look at the kriegsmesser 🤣
I would be uncomfortable if I had men lusting after me like that.
Women on the other hand... I'd probably still run lol. That much attention can only mean trouble.
As a man, I’m wanting a woman who looks at me the way Shad looks at his Brigandine. :)
as a woman looking for a good man myself....I think I'd get that look if I made my future husband my chili XD
Instructions unclear, I've turned myself into a bioweapon.
Specifically against mosquitoes, but still.
@@janette2422wear armour and you'll get any guy you like 😂
As a Londoner, I'm watching to see if these would be good for my morning knife juggling and tactical origami. 🇬🇧
I really liked that jacket, it looks exactly like a jacket i usually wear outside and that's pretty clever of them to design a jacket that doesn't look any different from regular jackets.
Not sure if clever or the opposite. I'd prefer intimidate someone out of stabbing me with a big ass armor than being seen as an easy target.
Aaand exactly. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure
Security has ALWAYS been a measure of relative safety. If you look like a harder mark than somebody else, you're less likely to get knifed, assuming no personal grudges
That said, it's not super wise to fully telegraph exactly what your defences are, because nothing is entirely foolproof and one good stab in the right area can compromise your safety regardless
"Thats a good design feature right there!"
*Promptly shows the head exposure in brutal fashion*
this would be great in London but i think the police might arrest you for having armor without a license.
True, they'd probably find a way to arrest for wearing armor. It might be legal until they upgrade the laws again. In The Union, it's illegal.
At this point the London police would arrest people for thinking about armor silently.
Tbf , if you do get stabbed and "got isekai'd", it may reduce the percentage of native people in london...so it would look good on their government data. (based on their "representation" goals)
"If you're happy and you know it, that's illegal!" - UK Legislators
...and not being an illegal immigrant...
"- Ready to go medieval on this
- What? Retaking the Holy Land?"
😂😂
Utah? 😁
Can’t wait for the day when the title says “…and it’s exactly what we expected.” Any day now.
Fun fact: when I was in USMC Boot Camp, we trained with flak jackets, which were a protective clothing not meant to stop any actual ammunition, but hypothetically were able to protect you from shrapnel or knives. They were fairly lightweight and flexible compared to their strength, and were made with a kevlar weave. One of the many things we had to do in training was the bayonet course in which we had to stab a dummy wearing a real flak jacket, and we did not pass the course unless we were able to jam the bayonet through the kevlar and into the dummy.
If you can't get a what, 7kg knife+rifle combo through light armour, you're really not trying!
Canadian here. I'm starting to think I might actually need something like this...and that is a very real problem. 🙄
And it is against the law for you to have certain types of armor. Maybe something needs to be done about that
I live in London and I've considered trying to get ahold of something like this many times. There have been quite a few stabbings around me some random
@@krailer1it’s very province specific. Some provinces need a PAL to acquire armor, some have essentially no armor restrictions
As long as you do not live in the western provinces of Canada (Manitoba west) body armour is legal in Canada including the Territories. I’m in Alberta and can very easily get a permit to wear if I wanted. I think it’s more about the government knowing what you have.
@@markwalker4485The fact that you require a license is evidence that Canada is too far gone. You have restrictions on speech, arms, and assembly. That makes you a nation of servants.
Any chance of yall testing a shark suit?
It is essentially machine made stainless steel welded (instead of butted or rivited) chainmail.
I have a feeling the shirt is more cut resistant than stab resistant....
Cause that went straight through.
Not very surprising at all, to the best of my knowledge there is not stab resistant fabric out there, yet, that can stop or resist a stab without multiple layers. Even Kevlar is known to do poorly vs. stabs unless you use lots and lots of layers or unless you glue them together to form solid plates in the same way they make Kevlar helmets.
@Riceball01 Just multiple layers of nylon works. The old US Army Flak vest will stop a full bore knife trust with deadly intent. Source: Witnessing a knife attack on a battle buddy.
The attacker was taken to the ground and detained as an enemy combatant.
Yes, obviously, this was before we got IBA.
16:02 "Ah, I've seen you played knifey messer before."
That's pretty fascinating, actually. If I had to walk through certain european areas I can't imagine I would regret having those plates on me.
*cough* Limerick, Ireland *cough*
Sad that it's actually a thing that's being tolerated and encouraged.
"European areas" 🤷🏼♂️
@@hissingsid6854 London's actually much safer than it used to be. ☺️
These "areas" shouldn't be what they are now. That's something the local governments are responsible for due to their open border policies. It can and should be reversed.
Euro Simulator. Unwanted Invasion DLC
Oh, I assure you, the invasion is very much wanted. By our corrupt governments, that is.
That shirt being slash resistant might be affective against machetes. Might come in handy in certain parts of Europe. 🤔
Heard Haiti also has a machete problem, tho Idk if thats true or not
@@crimsonemperor2219 Yes, and large swaths of Africa.
Honestly not a bad idea as a final line when doing forestry work
Haiti has more of a US and France problem mate.. @@crimsonemperor2219
Always appreciate an honest review, thanks for the stress test transparency guys
I'm kinda starting to dig the continuous squabble between them. It must be difficult to nail the right ammount so it's not too much or too little, but I really like it so far ~
Yeah, I think they're starting to learn when to make the right cut for timing. It has run on far too long in past videos, for sure. I'm positive they've seen comments and learned.
"You're unlikely to come up against katanas and rambo knives"
Shad... you've been to wales. Cardiff at night can be crazy, but next time come to the valleys it what we call a tuesday
I was in Cardiff last spring. Caught an early train on Saturday with my wife and kids.
Can confirm.
The party was getting started when we went to bed. The zombies, who had looked like corpses collapsed on the street all day, started to stir as the sun set.
People literally rose out of the tall grass in the park near the castle. It was freaking creepy, and we were glad to get inside for the night.
Down town was a disater area in the morning.
My ten year old was cursed out by a vagrant just for looking in his direction from thirty feet away. He started following us but backed off when I turned in his direction so the family could skedaddle.
Loved our visit otherwise. Took a guided Doctor Who tour. Terrance, our tour guide, was fantastic. We kept in touch and exchanged christmas cards. The rest of the city was absolutely lovely as well.
Shame about the party zombies.
@@Great_Wall_of_Text 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly this needs to go on Cardiff's tourism page
@crwydryny I meant every word : )
Still loved our visit.
After we got home, I built a wooden castle for the kids. 20x25, and twelve feet at its tallest with four towers and a two story keep.
The kids named it "Yardiff Castle". Cardiff left an impression : )
Well well well, newest London fashion
i actually wear stab vest. Live in Hampshire
Good idea.
I were workshop brigandine tailored to fit under a sleeveless vests.
I had my 5th shiving attempt against me by 14 & ever since I do not leave my residence in London without gorged, brig with groin protection & secrete under a cap or hat.
wear what you please but I will wear 16 to 18 gauge surface hardened steel at 19 Ib's but I did lighten it with some titanium of 1.5 mil gauge but they are cheap though I got as scrap being a former fabrication Engineer till my failed health I would take scrap bit & ends of titanium that no one would miss.
My brigandine modified over 14 years now weighs 12 & 1/2s Ib's.
I still trust steel more then Titanium but I'm not as young & fit as I once was since I got corona in 2020 which knocked me side ways.
If it was not for the cost & hazard I would like plates of silicon carbide as it is a 1/4 the weight of Titanium which is nearly 1/2 the weight of steel.
Silicon carbide is 9.5 Moh's while hardened steel & titanium is about 6.
You could make a vest or brig of silicon come out at about 7ib's which is nothing.
My secrete & gorget is just hardened aluminium at about 3 Moh's but it is far better then nothing from 1st hand experience.
Aluminium covering your neck in segments under your beard is a massive improvement to ones protection.
For my limbs I wear a great coat or a thick leather jacket to just below my buttocks & my legs I like tall sturdy boots with putees to knee height.
You would be surprised what wrapped up decent fabric can sustain against but foot work is best in combat for if you are moving then the opponent shouldn't get at your legs.
People just think I'm eccentric in my appearance but it is all practical.
I can wear a suit even & people don't notice so the bulk is not noticeable since I tailored it to by frame.
Read the comment. Kept scrolling. Suddenly it hit. Returned to comment.
@@arnijulian6241 Are you Batman?
Considering that body armour is illegal in Australia for civilians, this could be the best way to protect oneself if you're worried about being attacked.
This is body armour. Depending on the state will determine if it meets the legislated criteria.
Is it all body armour or just bullet resistant armor? I know in Canada in many provinces you need your gun license to get body armour, but stab proof stuff is exempt. They might rule these prohibited if the plates can stop even small arms fire though
That opening skit, the way Shad and Nate are dressed, I thought it was going to break out into like a gang knife fight, like from an old movie😂
Same
Considering I just saw West Side Story, I was expecting finger snaps. 😜
Shad: poor Boromir, time to fix him
Also Shad: here, hold this (uses Boromir's head to hold the knife)
Not only is this for British viewers, this is specifically for those living in Swindon and Birmingham.
Nooo! Swindon is safe, you mean Penhill valley...
"I doubt you're going to come up against katanas and becks."
Someone hasn't seen some of the hardware around my house obviously.
Here before Ai creates artificial Emus
So the Final Emu War will end with Terminators riding genetically/cybernetically enhanced emus? I need an artist's rendition of this.
Now i want to see Road warrior meets emu terminators
No ione ides the emu's@@tvrkm6897
Guys, we do NOT talk about the emu wars, mmkay?
The Beacons are Lit. Gondor Calls for Aid!
being nitpicky : the tests on the chainmail are kind of useless as the mail is hanging loose and not resting on a solid body, which significantly changes the dynamics of a stab.
There is a solid wooden back.
You can see how much the blade flexes at 19:25 so there's definitely a lot of force going in to it but the question is what the impulse looks like with that setup. I think the biggest problem is that the mail is effectively doubled up because there's nothing in between the front and back of it.
They have also done proper chainmail testing in past videos, it was mostly done here for quick reference, for those who might not have seen the older videos
@@johnchestnut5340 yeah, which is not a body with the chainmail wrapped around. You can stab the wood through the chainmail with a tip fine enough and it will stop the blade -- the wood will. While on a body you can stab the chainmail and with enough force and a purpose shaped blade you will have a chance at ripping the rivets and penetrating the chainmail. Not half a centimeter but a lot more, since there's no wood to stop the blade. ;)
But yes, they did better tests already.
It is so good that Nate is there now to balance the team dynamic. With all those sharp and deadly weapons arround...😅
Jokes aside this was a very interesting video with quite suprising results. I am realy looking forward to the testing of the Raincoat variant. Maybe in a couple of months one of the modern weapons channels makes a gun test for those clothes as well. I'm quite curious wether those plates are actually able to stop small caliber projectiles.
Before it was revealed that the under shirt was in fact an undershirt from the stab proof line, I thought that was a temple garments joke with the blinding light 🤣
Yes, it is that kind of joke, from a certain point of view. lol
Yeah the shirt not being stab proof is a let down, but the fact that a SHIRT stopped a full force slash from a very sharp actual usable sword is pretty damned impressive imo.
I'm not sure how it would help if it was "stab proof". Stab proof how, anyway? Even if the fabric didn't break on the stab, the knife - wrapped around the shirt - would still likely break the skin and enter your bowels. ;)
“This is a knife” *holding messer handled sword* correct lol
I have a NIJ-3A+ vest and jacket combo that I wear when I visit sketchy areas, and they aren't overly cumbersome. Even without the plates each will stop a 9mm or a knife, with major bruising, but with plates they're rated up to a .44 Mag.
bulletproof vest don't stop stab, you'd clear that misunderstandings. There are also stab test on bulletproof vest video on youtube. good luck, dear bro.
"We're going to put it up against stuff that it was not... Intended... To try and resist."
From a UK perspective, with the exception of the Kitchen knife, you used weapons extremely unlikely to be used in a street attack whilst ignoring the Machete which is frequently used. We have literal machete fights on the streets of some cities and there are frequent attacks with them.
Most kevlar isn't stab resistant. Slash yes, but a drop point knife let alone the blades youre using will go right through even a Bullet resistant vest.
This is why there are vests (Police/Military/Ect) have to be rated for specific types of prevention. You can stab straight through a level 3A vest, which can stop bullets.
There are Ballistic resistant, Slash resistant, and then Stab/Spike resistant vest ratings. You can get something that is combo rated but they are usually a combo of lower rates armors.
I would think the shirt is only rated for slash resistant, not spike/stab resistant.
Reason being is the way Kevlar is woven. The tip of a knife/spike will separate the fibers and puncture something that isn't Spike/Tab rated.
That's why cops hate Stilettos so much.
Goes straight through their fancy little vest all day long.
But vests are rated for bullets have plates, not kevlar. There's no way you can cut through those plates with a knife.
@@aaaaaa-gq3dvyou can cut past them at the joints
finally find a professional comment. that's why there are bulletproof standard and rates, stab proof standard and rates, cut proof standard and rates , seperately.
@@aaaaaa-gq3dv thought they have both; kevlar to tangle the bullet and plate to dissipate the resulting blunt force. Although that'll eventually get into argument what is the plates made of; steel, ceramic, composites..
16:06 thumbs up for this little gag alone. "It's a knife, guv'nah. Honest!" -courtesy of Lindybeiege
To be fair... Katanas can cut reality. Or so I've been told.
And can still cut a tomato!
There was a company in Germany back in the late 90's that made titanium chainmail, mainly for bouncers and bodyguards. Quite fashionable, too. Mostly polo shirts, so you could pop the collar to protect the neck, even. I remember there being a lot of interest, but it was stupid expensive, which is probably why I've never seen that armour in real life. Don't think they're still around.
There are some manufacturers who make particularly fine stainless steel chain mail all welded together
Bro took the "In Shining Armor" perk.
This happened years ago (in the mid 90s) but was a guy who participated in the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronisms) here in the US. Now this was late at night & he had to be at work later but didn't have time to fully change so just put his work shirt on over the chain mail shirt. Turned his back for a moment on a customer at the checkout & suddenly ended up with a knife in his back. The instant surprise that the assault did nothing let the guy overpower his attacker & subdue until cops arrived. When they did it took 2 cops to pull the knife out of the shirt given how well bound up it was in the links. Injuries were minor...just a couple stitches. Pretty sure he kept wearing that mail under his work shirt after that.
Definitely nice to have some modernized civilian armor
But a plate carrier and rig has soooo many pockets for knick knacks
@@krailer1 and snacks
Wonder what a modernised equivalent of a full upper body gambeson would be like, although nobody has tried but I imagine it would offer protection from both blunt force and blade.
Seems good for a casual walk around London.
Yeah sure that stuff might be of some help against ONE amateur. Against someone who knows where to aim, useless. Against a gang also useless Reminder - cowards prefer to attack like packs of hyenas.
In London, east end youth street gangs stab each other. Elsewhere, you are very, very unlikely to be stabbed. Even if you add the gangs in, still 2x safer for stabbings than anywhere in the USA. I'd walk anywhere any time of day and night in that city, and I have. And you can send your kid to school without them getting shot to death by incels too, obviously.
You should probably have put the chainmail on a dummy as it not having a solid surface behind it but just letting it hang affected the test.
Otherwise no complaints. Interesting clothes.
LMAO the subtle messer "knife" joke at 16:06 made me laugh way harder than it should have. You guys are great lol
Normally I’m hesitant to trust the information from sponsored videos however I trust Shad’s choice in sponsorships after his kamikoto video
Remind me, wasn't Kamikoto the Chinese company selling low-grade trash falsely branded as Japanese knives?
TH-camrs should really be more careful with their sponsorships.
@@christophersavignon4191 yup! Shad exposed them. It was an excellent video.
The thing with the tshirt is that even if it was utterly cut resistant youd still get cut under it. Its so thin it would just push the tshirt into the wound
something to keep in mind is Kevlar is a name brand, not all fabrics claiming to be Kevlar actually are. Also Kevlar (brand) never claimed to be stab/cut proof. The way their fabric works is like a catchers mitt for blunt projectiles. Anything sharp will just slash the fabric
Been watching this channel for years and I FINALLY get to hear them say "THIS is a knife" 😂😂😂
Nate is just so generous to let the other guys get more pokes and stabs!
No bec de corbin resistant armor, how dare I go out at dark 😰
That is. It's called a tank. Qiote unwieldy though, and very disliked at social occasions.
you need to get like full steel plate armor or something
This one was quite chaotic, which i usually find kinda annoying but you guys are hilarious together and it just reminds me of being a little kid again and getting so excited with friends for fun shenanigans like this. This is why I love this channel. Thanks guys.
When will they start selling stab resistant clothing that is just clothing but with chainmail & padding inside a jacket?
Don't let that idea go to waste, try and find a way to manufacturer it and make it a reality
17:55
I got way too much of a kick out of Shad saying "That's actually a good design feature," and then just *immediately* stabbing poor Boromir in the skull. :-p
They take a modular approach, sell empty clothing with armor pockets so you can customize the kind of protection you want and help hit a price point that you want.
As for the material, usually High Density Polyethylene (HDPE) is used in knife resistant to armor.
now aramid is more used for stab proof armor.
the new london summer collection is probably gonna be lit
Is Tyranth cutting his hair with that knife?
As a ballistic-armor admirer, its job is to be tough enough to save your life at least once while being a light as it can. This really looks like it emulates that with stabbing/slashing. A lvl4 plate vest won't stop you from getting shot in the neck but anything that ups your odds of a miss is a win. Plus I'm sure someone wearing this getting attacked would be running or moving, just adding the glancing opportunity is enough to help you run to safety or help without possibly bleeding out.
This is the type of Shad content I miss.
Another great video, as always, everyone! I have been a fan of Shadiversity for many years, and I have never ceased to be educated and entertained (as a middle-school teacher, I say edutained, lol) by y’all! Keep it up, you fellas are awesome! 😊
People reach for the stab proof vest when they go for walks in London.
Nah, that's just yankie memes. It's very safe here comparatively. 🇬🇧
Since chainmail is heavy but can conform to any shape really and the plates are light but has a very specific shape it would make sense to make a hybrid with plates surrounded by chainmail
Bec de Corbin, my favourite medieval weapon, devastating piece of weaponry :D
There's a bit of a flaw in your testing method comparison: The chainmail is up against a solid wall taking the full force of any strike, while the figure can fall backwards translating some of the force into movement, meaning it will not take all of it.
I've always wondered about this! Thanks guys!
this is the ultimate dad humor channel, as a dad I approve
The point of any armor is to add protection so an enemy has to do more/different work to hurt you. The situation of a stealthy, in-close quick stab to the gut is a great example for this because the Guardian Wear jacket (coat of plates) protects against it so well. An attacker would be forced to give his attack a bigger wind-up, which itself might mean the difference between a successful defense and death for the defender.
This was freaking amazing! Keep up the good work.
Ahhh I see that Shad is well prepared for his next trip to London.
I love seeing you guys slowly reveal what true modern Medieval combat might look like
STAB or CUT resistance, huge difference
Weird Seeing the Chaps in regular clothes, It's like they've been teleported from another realm.
I enjoyed this test. There is one big "BUT" in the protection. The force of the hit on the person even if the soft or medium armor doesn't allow it threw. A stopped blade means it is turned into impact damage. Point impact will sometimes do massive impact damage. It is the reason the true thrust proof armor is more hardened. Even bullets stopped by a vest or plate can transmit the bullet damage to impact damage causing a lot of damage. Even the chain mail has this flaw. It might stop something, but the point of impact still causes a lot of damage.
Take Care and Stay Safe, guys.
the way he looks at the camera and smiles just before it cuts XD 9:00
If you need a warpick or equivalent to go through the vest, thats not bad. I think they might want to do a slight redesign if the sword went right through the upper back. Australians more than most should know that it is likely to be attacked from behind there and the back of the neck.
Very surprised that they had the gall to not only call it stab proof, but also send it to people who actually had the means to put it through it's paces, even if it actually was stab proof.
Tyranth continuously keeping you boys honest, and saving the lives of consumers. That's Lawful Good all the way through this video.
nate looks cool in that vest tbh. he should be a vest guy.
Smoothest way for Shad to say without saying that he was keeping that jacket XD
I'd love for this to be a series. Medieval Vs Modern
I don't know for some reason this got me thinking. I remember hearing about improvised armor using duct tape and cardboard that protesters in some country thought up, in some situation, years ago. For the life of me I can't find a reference to it online any longer. Out of idle curiosity I tested it out. Corrugated cardboard no, but the heavier non corrugated stuff( like the boxes humanitarian daily rations ship in for example) has pretty good stab resistance in a couple layers.
Hong Kong armor.
The Shadiversity crew in normal civilian clothes will never not be out-of-place. Y’all look swanky, though.
Now that you mention it, scrabble knight would be kind of entertaining, especially if a bunch of medieval/castle words/archaic spellings were used.