Turbulent Energy Explained: The Vortex Turbine!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2020
- Could the future of energy be found in rivers?
At Turbulent, have no doubts about it! Our micro-hydropower technology opens possibilities to generate clean, renewable and reliable energy in places that were never viable before.
In this video, you will find a complete explaination on how we can help you generate green energy for the local people, to help the planet while making a sustainable profit.
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This is coolest thing I've seen all day, makes me happy that people are finding ways to keep the world a good place while being able to be financially successful.
The continuous water design makes the vortex of the energy flow smoothly and harnessing energy from the source is excellent. Keep going.
Congratulations on the success of your product and making a positive impact on people all around the world, this looks like an idea that took a lot of passion and effort to put into effect and it looks like this will really pay off. great work
I really love the design of these things I always thought when passing by a small river or lake with a steady flow of water: I could place a small turbine in there to charge a batterypack and use this energy later for powering LEDs or something. This is exactly that idea just bigger and I'm amazed that it exists. Really like it
Ever seen a water wheel? This is old technology, really old.
@@seanregehr4921 hmm using the vortex is not so old, and fish stay safe.
Such small, cheap and simple technologies can change world. Such technologies can make world a better place. Best of luck.
Everybody who lives near a river needs one of these
@THEGODFATHER meh. just sell back the electricity to the grid.
No really, they literally said that you can do that in the video.
@@novastar6112 it depends on the cost and from the looks of it, not cheap. I wonder how many year it will need to pay itself off also gotta look at maintenance costs to which could and probably is quite expensive.
@@acillius2 Maintenance is low, due to lack of moving parts.
But yea I get your point: initial costs.
Cheaper than hydrodams at any rate though.
@Bailover Trend .___. Well crap.
But hey, it powers a decent amount of homes for a small village.
I dunno, but appears to be meant for 3rd world countries or poor villages for use.
@Bailover Trend Hey, better than burning literal shit to cook I guess XD
Has there been a design proposed using stacked turbines, starting with the smallest first, then sizing them outward, recovering more and more energy from the cascade as it flows downward? Or vice versa, biggest first them shrink the cone down, building velocity and pressure. Or even keep them the same size, just counter-rotate the blades to maintain head pressure, or keep them the same direction...
Just a few thoughts from a brain that loves to work in fluid ways.
Imagine how fun this would be as a water slide
Y’know, assuming it was a big enough model to support humans, it probably would be
Isn't it just like a bowl slide?
Depending on the RPM and material used for the turbine, it might be limited to 1 ride per person! 🤔
@@GMan-yv8cb oh no
Bread Soup well, considering larger turbines would spin slower
maybe just maybe you’d be safe :P
Very beneficial in hills especially.
This could be used in India where long canals have been build to bring water from the huge himalayan rivers to the plains down south
Fabulous, ThankU for sharing and posting.
Very good idea.... free energy with water... like it from java👍
I want to present this in my final year project
Excelente labor
This is amazing. Take my money!
Amazing!
Genuine question, is there an manetic interference resistant resistant framework? (Little far out of city limit off grid homestead)
So awesome
How do we get in touch. We are conceiving a mini hydro project in my country and would like to have some information on how we could work together
The best invention that I discover today
Where does the control cabinet get it's electricity?
Hello! were we find a link to a schp of thise turbulent hydro? thanks
esta turbina puede aprovechar la fuerza de una caida de agua (ligeramente inclinada) de 200 metros?
can it be mounted without a water source and use pump for water circulation
its so satisfying
Horizontal turbines are also useful. This setup is absolutely viable! I hope people realize how beneficial this can be. Small manufacturing businesses can use their own setup and be completely independent! Man I want to create a small glass blowing factory that's all electric with one of these. I wonder if I can get a development grant somewhere in Europe to do that. Hmm.
And is one of your projects possible in a stream that has a naturally acidic pH? People in my community say that my poor little yellow river is useless. Is it possible if it can work for this?
Awesome idea! Is there any sort of emergency stop for the turbines? Like what happens if a branch falls into the stream just before the vortex? Alternatively on a more serious note, what happens if an animal or person falls into the vortex? I feel like some fencing just above the vortex would be a good idea and likely wouldn't increase the cost too much.
It doesn't have to be open. Put a cover over it
The opening on the top of the vortex can be covered with a simple iron grate or mesh, and I believe it wouldn't be too expensive to do the same for the rest of the vortex channel to protect from what you mentioned.
Yes you are right,
The what if.
And the probabilities are
Very high.
Or like what I said some
Idiot will jump in.
Need a steel mesh
Cover over it.
@@bethymears2648 can be done
The merits compared to a vertical half kaplan fixed propeller turbine with aspirated exhaust? It costs less? is it more efficient?
Leaving aside the comparison with the screw turbines.
I do not understand. Ciao
The Archimedes' screw turbines, (that are installed "diagonally") use more material to construct and require more maintenance due to the load not being axial or perpendicular to the thrust of the water. These are installed on small streams and have a much lower impact on the aquatic life than any of the technologies that you listed. The kaplan, as I understand it, would be less efficient in a low-head environment. (Kaplan are great when you have a dam that is half a mile above the kaplan turbine.)
@@recklessroges Maybe I wrote wrong, I also specified leaving out the arcmede screws, (maintenance costs, etc.) not far from me there is the first co-commercialized archimede screw in the world with variable speed with regenerative inverter to modulate the flow rate, built 18 years ago and (object of study at the time being a novelty, built by the German company which has now been absorbed by a multi-national company, which marketed them for the first time ever over 20 years ago, leaving out this I read many imprecisations, fixed propeller turbines they are not Full Kaplan turbines, but both are born for very low jumps being reaction turbines with aspirated exhaust, they also work with only one meter, then subsequently they have been improved and brought to work even beyond 50 meters for full Kaplan, they are unparalleled as efficiency on the flow rate work curve, but only in large systems and with 2 settings, those not full kaplan but with fixed propeller are practically identical to this stuff, they can be open or closed chamber with radial inlet with or without fixed distributor always for jumps from one meter upwards, this "turbine" appears more commercial for developing countries than anything else, large diameter to slow down and adapt the centrifugal speed of the water to that of the propeller, in the end it is a propeller with an open loading chamber, nothing new we have similar turbines from 1920/1930 with an open loading chamber in the irrigation channels, the propeller turbines fixed are not used on dams or large jumps but precisely in small hydro plants with similar flow rates, they are in the hydroelectric field, this one in the video has adjustable propellers so it is not a fixed prop but a semi-kaplan type, so nothing new. that's why I don't see anything innovative and I don't understand.
@@winterburan Good questions, and some already answered above. What do you mean with aspirated exhaust? I don't get that term. As per benefits, we design these turbines to be cost efficient and requiring low amounts of expertise to install. We didn't add a draft tube as the extra efficiency it gave us, didn't outweigh the added costs of digging further down. You have to keep in mind that we design these systems for remote areas and for refurbishment of old mills. existing hydraulic structures etc. When you have to dig down under the water level, you have to put sheet piling around your build site and pump away the ground water. That all adds to the costs. By keeping it simple we want to make these projects doable by people without expert experience in hydraulic civil works. KISS is our moto, Keep it Simple and ssss...cheap.
Any designs that can be installed in the downspout section of a barn or two story building?
Thinking: if U make a closed loop, as in 1 pump pushing the water strait up
to say 2 meters, from there ya put ten 20cm high vortex turbines
(or five 40cm vortex turbines) in series.
could they generate more power
than is needed for the 1 pump to push it up the 2 meters?
thus creating free nrg ^^
How much đoes cost this turbin (15kw)? How to order it ?
Once I have enough money.. I'll contact you guys.
for 30K Euros, id go online and look at the DIY builds on YT
May we please know the rough estimate for a 5 kwh or 15 kwh systems? I'm still on the hunt of a property with usable water source but it would be nice to have a peek of your pricing so I'll have an idea for a rough budget.
www.turbulent.be/contact-us :)
@@TurbulentHydro just Tell us some numbers 🙄🤌🏻
@@HDCamcord roughly a max power of 180 kw, not more than that, and it's already the maximum peak which almost never happens I guess
how much could this setup be for residential scale?
i mean for home/single/1 house only scale
great inventon
Man I Love this
Please advise me. I come from Vietnam. My area has a reservoir and has water flowing all year round, the flow is about 1m3/s and the height is about 2 meters.
"Центробежная сила" это разность давления у потока движущегося по окружнлсти, на внешнем радиусе потока повышенное дааление, на внутреннем радиусе пониженное давление. Пониженное давление это прирост энергии, его можно использовать для разгона потока. Там у вас перепад более метра, значит можно прогнать пару оборотов, что увеличит скорость потока и как следствие энергию.
Does the system affect erosion of the river bed? It is a pretty low flow application so I imagine it doesn’t but is that part of the feasibility study done at a potential site?
Bom dia e qual seria o preço da turbina com 15 kilowats de geração de energia elétrica para instalar em uma propriedade.
If I have a river that can manage several Mini Hydro's, can you add the power of each one, how does that work? what do you need for adding?
The only thing you need is quantity of water and a drop og 1.5meters.
I wonder if this could be installed somewhere in the Mississippi river.
MERCI VICKTOR SCHAUBERGER :)
I like your project. Its a good design and good for the earth with 0% emitting carbon. I'm planning to create a same in my village on a running stream in front of my home. But I have not much resources. If you let me know what things I need for a 10 to 15 KW system and how much expensive It is. That will be a great help.
Hola, buenas tardes quisiera saber como se puede comprar una turbina de esas pero más pequeña. Y cual es el valor?
Great project... What is the price of a turbine?? And you can deliver to lebanon in middel east??
I'd like to know the efficiency of this system compared to conventional propeller turbines.
The efficiency is better. Go to to the website. Everything is localy made exept the turbine generator. Local people can keep an eye on it.
I would love to work with these guys in my country 🙏🏿
Ask them, they come.
@@robertbaelen7656 yes
Parabéns !!!
What is the cost of small system?
You can visit our website, where you will find a range of prices for our turbine models. Of course, the cost will vary depending on the site characteristics, so make sure to send us any site you have in mind and we will send you a price quotation :)
@Ken MacDonald Well its hard for them to give you a price if they have no idea how big it needs to be, the best thing they could do is tell you how much all the resources would cost/
Ok so I just looked it up on google and it said $1,000-$20,000 per unit, but I don't think that includes maintenance. Hope this helps!
@@andersbell6974 thanks but I think that's the problem. I need to know price per kW to understand the value vs. alternatives like solar or wind, etc.
@Ken MacDonald well to be honest if you are in a remote area the cost will be higher than if you are near the capital (for example) and the amount of concrete that you will need to use but I guess what you mean is to have a reference idea like 3k to 8k usd, and have some sort of disclaimer saying something like: *price may be higher due to exchange rates and access to the site where the system will be built
What kind of generators is used in your turbine ?
Synchronous or asynchronous generators?
Both and neither, hope that helps. 😁
My house is next to a small stream, I might try using this.
How are you going to design and build the concrete chamber (called a volute) and who is going to do the hydraulic and electrical calculations? These things are engineered, you can’t buy one at Walmart.
@@greenmountainboy2528 Dude.. Just crush another dream.
@@greenmountainboy2528 Well we can help with the engineering part. Would you guys want to see a video of how to make the volute out of concrete, metal, or even wood?
@Muckin 4on That's the spirit. But seriously, if you ask for the plans we can give them!
This is super cool! I have a couple of questions:
1. Why do you only divert a small amount of water from the main flow? I would've thought more water passing through would be more profitable/ productive
2. I read some replies on previous videos, and you claim the efficiency is 50%. Where do you get this figure?
2: You can calculate the potential energy the water has before and after it enters the turbine and compare that to the energy the turbine produced.
Probably because diverting the entire flow of water to build something to capture the entire flow would be expensive.
The system is built in a scale that only requires x amount of waterflow to generate energy at max capacity. You have to take into account that you are not the only person who needs to use the water plus by only diverting part of the stream you get past the environmental extremists who would claim that diverting the entire flow would adversely impact the local ecosystem. Why ruffle any more feathers than absolutely necessary to get the amount of energy that you need for your project? At least that's what makes the most sense to me
where we can buy the product how much for the installation location is Philippines?
Can I get cost estimates please for setting up a micro unit.
How much does 500kW plant cost?
Is it can run in Norway, at -20 °C?
I am interested in a 5kw system for my property in Colombia, who can I speak to about this?
What is the biggest VTurbine size?
Are these available in the states yet?
Jup!
I am wanted to baye this tarbin ..frome where i shuold baye it
Oooh yessss
Whats the price for a 5kw option plus shipping?
Muy buena esa turbina es fabulosa los felicito desde colombia las estoy fabricando
how i can buy your product?
Wow, the system even has cloud integration for dashboards for operators
So it harnesses the power of crioulos forces ?
nope, potential energy. That coriolis thing is miniscule
I emailed you in regards to instalation in my village in Lebanon. But I never received any response. Thanks
Does this sold in the US?
I start to learn the technical and installation procédures before becoming a partner and make the product known to the right people and communities...Info re welcome . RT
Do you have options for private property in Usa? I know a few farmers that have river going through their properties that would love these.
You wouldn’t be able to make these in the US. New dams are rarely being built in the US because of their environmental impact on River ecology. The best you could do is upgrade an existing dam that does not currently provide hydroelectricity, so farmers would be out of luck unless they have a dam in their property already
Har ni någon ÅF i Sverige ?
How we can purchase it?
Do you have physical office here in the Philippines?
how much is one of them?
Bonjour je suis en besoin de vos turbine mais le soucie comment vous joindre pas téléphone .... En plus je veux avoire une idée du prix... Merci
Bonjour, vous pouvez nous contacter via notre site web, www.turbulent.be
we would like to implement this system in Brazil. Who do I talk to to find out if there is a possibility and at what cost? thanks.
Bom dia.
Você conseguiu informações sobre representante do Turbulent no Brasil?
so awesome dude
can you tell me how does it produce power at a very low RPM?
I think the Water in the Vortex has a high momentum. Momentum times RPM is Power, so high momentum with low RPM can generate as much Power as low momentum with high RPM.
@@philipphermann9454 oh i got it now thanks man
I know this is late but the turbines have large motors that can generate sufficient power at low rpms. The water does need to have enough force or momentum to push the motors thou.
I’m saying this because it’s about how much the turbine/motor spins not the momentum of the water. Faster water will turn the turbine more and produce more power and slower water will produce less power. So the rpm of the turbine and the motor(energy produced) is effected by the momentum of the water and the size of the motor not the rpm x momentum of the water
At 3:19, note the counter clockwise rotation...., Bali is a bit south of the equator, obviously.
What happens when the river freezes in winter?
Then you get cold fusion. 😁
Rivers do not freeze solid water is always moving under the ice.
nice
Has Turbulent been in contact with PKS in Bad Ischel, the archive in Austria for Viktor Schauberger? He is the grand wizard of Water Vortexing, I feel like you guys can fine-tune the generator and get even more efficiency and applications! Cheers
Where do you think they got the idea from?
why it rotates before water come?
When starting up the turbine we bring it up to speed so that we can control the inrush currents. If we don't do that we can trip the safeties
@@TurbulentHydro but look weird, for demostration you could just slowly increase water flow
Where to reach out here in Philippines to get more information and assistance regarding this vortex turbine?
Best way is to fill out your contact details on our contact us page. Please make sure to give us the estimated height difference and flow for your river. That way we can immediately tell you the feasibility when connecting you to our local representative.
These should be all down the Grand River!!
mind i asked where is the location?
interested to learn from thisturbins
Great application of a legacy technology. It's too bad this is totally unfeasible in places like North America where extreme environmental policy would make this sort of project an impossibility.
Can this turbine harness the force of a 200 meter (slightly inclined) fall of water?
No, this is for small height drops. You'd need a different turbine design for higher water pressure.
There are plenty of high pressure systems to buy.
200 meters is a pressure of 20 bar or 20 kg/cm² thats high pressure. With a lot of energy. I am jalous.
I am looking into buying land and am going to make sure it has running water on it. I want this
try to offer this project to Mr. Ridwan Kamil as governor of the province of West Java, Indonesia, because the potential for micro hydro in the province of West Java is very large because many hills have so much water flowing throughout the year, especially the rainy season
How much is the cost?
Me interesa mucho su tecnología para incluir en nuestros proyectos urgente
So simple I don't know how this has never been made before
how can i get in touch with the sales team?..
how to avoid/protect the animals in case they jump in ?
If we gonna use it this sistem, how much money to built this thing ?
Please I want to know how do I get to you such company are needed in my country which is sierra leone
You need to cover it,
Some idiot is going to jump in.
Don't blame others. Environmentlist was used by politicians to as propaganda tool. Environmental protection was behind political beg to ask democracy and freedom and human rights. Don't doubt democrats and green party environmentlist including Greta Thunberg were intervention and harassment for others countries's development and progressive
wait what is that in Bali??
an installation at the Green School?
The generator is monophase o
three-phase?
up to 5kW one phase, everything larger is 3 phase