Controversial Thoughts: Is Honey Really the Same As Sugar?
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- Oooo guys! This is a good one, and it’s going to ruffle some keto-feathers!
There is a tendency within nutritional circles to fall prey to reductionist thinking.
We know sugar is bad, right? Therefore any foods (no matter how evolutionarily consistent) that contain sucrose, or the evil-fructose are bad for you, too, right?
Not so fast seabass!
These apparent evolutionary inconsistencies have always puzzled me and caused me to wonder about how foods like honey or fruit might be different than pure sucrose, or if your body’s response to fructose might be dependent on the food it’s in.
Imagine that! Food might actually be more complex than just calories, and macronutrients!
It might actually have different effects on your body when it’s a “whole” food like honey or even sea salt vs refined sodium chloride.
Check out this week’s edition of Controversial Thoughts to journey with me down all of these rabbit holes.
I bet you will be surprised at what we find! Welcome to #theremembering
Diabetic went from 9.6 to 6.0 on ketovore diet. Introduced small amounts of raw unfiltered honey and occasional fruit. Have not seen any significant increase in blood glucose. Still eating mostly meat. No veggies and will start to Introduce organs. Thank you Dr Saladino for your insights and candor.
Keep up the good work, your putting in the work.
checking in..whats your hga1c at?🙏
@@dana102083 currently 5.9. Getting tested in a month. Hopefully lower.
I love that you are not reductionist and are always open to learn and find the truth.
He's also a plagiarist that steals from other people and makes money from it
@@nicolausthothmes2325 what does that mean
being opened minded is good but.. if he next comes out with that seed oils are good then I'm gone
Except he is an extreme reductionist whenever it fits his narrative lol
@@nicolausthothmes2325 how? elaborate...
I really like your open-minded, evidence-based approach to all this. Thanks for doing all the research for us!
Honey has been a weird one for me for two reasons. 1.) I found that when I’m striked carnivore, I get this overwhelming feeling of none hunger that almost makes me nauseous, a tiny tea spoon of raw honey makes this go away. Also, even though I have a history of high insulin and blood sugar issues, honey doesn’t give me the same tired feeling that I would get with sugar or other processed foods. Disclaimer though, this does not mean that I’m having a ton of honey in a day, nor am I having it everyday, but I’ve come to accept, despite many carnivores opinions about honey, that it might actually be a beneficial, tiny part of my overall diet. Especially if I’m still feeling amazing.
A tablespoon of raw honey after my carnivore meals has given me a tremendous boost in energy, mental clarity, and mood. A good book on the subject is The New Honey Revolution, by Ron Fessenden,M.D.
I’m in southern Brazil and the raw honey here is amazing, so many types. I love getting some of the honeycombs and eating them but when I offer it to some people they say the same thing about sugar. It’s apples to oranges, you can tell intuitively it’s not the same thing. Thanks for this research, makes me happy we can enjoy one of nature’s most delicious foods and be healthy, which is true of most natural foods…
Well of course! "My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste" ~ Proverbs 24:13 Yes, eat like Solomon.
Israel has also long been called "the land of milk and honey."
@@Attmay Israel? What is this?
@@quickswagger7213 most important history that you should know about...
...in moderation:
"Hast thou found honey? eat so much as is sufficient for thee, lest thou be filled therewith, and vomit it.". Proverbs 25:16
68. “And your Lord inspired the bee, saying: “Take you habitations in the mountains and in the trees and in what they erect.
69. “Then, eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of your Lord made easy (for you).” There comes forth from their bellies, a drink of varying colour wherein is healing for men. Verily, in this is indeed a sign for people who think.”
Quran 16:68-69
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 71, Number 584:
Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:
(The Prophet said), “Healing is in three things: A gulp of honey, wet cupping, and branding with fire (cauterizing).” But I forbid my followers to use (cauterization) branding with fire.”
Finally someone speaks about honey. I’ve believed for a long time that honey is not “sucrose” but a real ancestral food. Thank you, Paul 😁
They had about 5 grams a day when in season. It was a bonus when they went out hunting animals. They didn't take 100g per day like some ignorant people are recommending.
What is the truth about giving honey to babies? Does anyone know?
@@Michael_Lak 5 grams is nothing
@@borz55 Yes that's my point and yours is?
@@Michael_Lak why would anyone bother to get in all that trouble to hunt for honey and risk getting stung by the bees, just to eat less than a teaspoon?
I *really* appreciate your views. I agree that fruit isn't trying to kill you - nor is honey (though the bees might like to change your mind on this.) And in nature, these things are found sparingly. It was Lierre Keith (Vegetarian Myth) who helped me realize that yes, fruit *wants* to be eaten (so isn't generally trying to kill you.) Again, you don't want to eat too much fruit or honey, but I hate to demonize these things simply because they are high-carb. After all, we do have sweet taste buds...
Thanks again - I wish there was a place where I could ask you more questions (If there is one, please let me know.)
I’m so blessed to live in Hawaii where I have access to Hawaiian sea salt, raw organic local honey, and grass fed locally raised beef! 💕💗 oh yeah.... and good surf!
Heaven on earth?
Same for me in Mallorca. Super lamb.
What island?
too bad you have the cost of living is crippling
Same here, Maui baby
You finally got me on honey/ I started taking a teaspoon after each run to replace glycogen and can report back that if you are running an hour or so then taking honey with a couple of pieces of fruit is a good way to charge your energy without creating general sugar addiction.. I'm not measuring ketones or glucose at the moment but don't need to - if you feel better, then it's working.
It’s been found that being metabolically flexible, the ability for your body to jump from metabolizing glycogen to metabolizing ketones easily creates the healthiest individual. They should be healthy carbs though, not junk. Keeping the body guessing vs. adapting to one method seems to eliminate side effects of being extreme with one or the other .
@Nomane Euger plenty of people suffer from carbohydrate addiction. It’s usually when their stomach bacteria is way off. People who have T1 juvenile diabetes, autism, ADD & ADHD have gut imbalances which cause sugar addictions. This usually is resulted from toxins being injected & poor quality food as babies.
@Nomane Euger addiction and craving are two different things. There have been many studies that show sugar can be addictive. Many people can't stop with just what the body "needs".
There’s no need to any glycogen replacements. After any activity. It’s only in your mind. It’s a dogma. It’s only an excuse to eat something sweet. Try to avoid it for 1 month and you’ll see.
@@gladitude9 healthy carbs in nature DONT EXIST AT ALL. . Find me some healthy carb without antinutrients or inflammatory substances.
Paul's diet is not the same as it was 12 months ago, and 12 months from now it will surely change further. Its what happens when you are a learning machine. Keep up the good work, PS. Keeping avoiding the trap of premature conclusiveness that others fall into.
I've not cut out eating honey. I've always eaten honey. Wild, unprocessed honey. Whether it is good or bad. This research is great.
Me too!
What part of the world do you live in? I’m in the east coast of Canada and the summers are short. In Newfoundland I don’t know one person that keeps bees. Last month while I was in Ontario I met several people that keep bees. I have never had raw honey and I’m just wondering where you get your raw honey?
@@guidofester5451 I live in western Pennsylvania. buy off of a local food coop who buys off of local apiarist. Perhaps that is not actually wild. Definitions? Sort of like grass fed pastured/grass finished, cows are not wild either.
where the hell do you get wild honey
I am very happy with my diet learning from this channel. Only things I can not obtain is raw dairy as I live in town and can’t drive. So I use whole milk . Clotted cream and Greek yogurt. I eat more lamb than beef as tastes sweeter
Real raw honey has some great health properties. My 88 yo mother taught me to have a warm glass of water with a thin slice of lime and a teaspoon of raw honey for joint issues, stiffness and pain. Yes, it works. I don’t know why. Years ago I had a rescue dog with severe anxiety. My vet told me to let him slowly lick a teaspoon of raw honey everyday. He was like a totally different dog after the first time! I have used it for dogs with storm fears. My golden retriever severely injured a leg, slicing it open. He was in obvious pain. I wrapped it and on the way to the vet I let him lick a teaspoon of honey and within moments he was calm even with his pain. There is a lot of studies for the use of honey. Good video.
Wow, that’s incredible! Thank you for sharing. 😊
Yes.I just read insulin becomes serotonin and then melatonin..so honey is perfect.
Honey for joint issues? Lol yes yo have them
I really appreciate your research and backing what you say with studies. No other doctor I follow on you tube does this.
After being carnivore for 4 months and feeling like I was spiralling downwards due to heart pounding and no energy at all even though I was taking electrolytes I added fruit and Greek yoghurt for breakfast with a spoonful of raw honey. It’s made all the difference. My energy is back and heart has charmed down and I feeling that meat fruit and honey is sustainable long term. Thank you so much for helping me get my life back. ❤😊
I've read about the hunter gatherer Aché Guayaki from Paraguay. Their annual ceremonial feast was with honey, a lot of honey. That is described in the book "Chronicle of the Guayaki Indians" by french anthropologist Pierre Clastres.
And so?
@Mauricio : it seems as if raw honey is a ancestrally appropriate food. Humans have consumed it for millennia without metabolic disease….in comparison we’ve had 150-200 years of grain based processed food and seed oils and we are sick and fat….
My favourite TH-cam diet Guy by far. Not dogmatic and willing to change views. Ken strawberry doesn’t know what he’s missing out on
Have learnt so much form you Paul. Thanks for getting down those rabbit holes for us lay ppl ❤❤🙏🏼🙏🏼
I started on my health journey with the Liver King and the Primal Fat Burner book, then started taking Ancestral Supplements, then came Primal Connection followed by the Primal Blueprint and its accompanied podcast, cookbooks etc. Then i saw this guy on Instagram telling me all my veggies were bullshit. Now im slowly transitioning as my life and lifestyle allow into a more Carnivore MD type lifestyle. My asthma improved with Primal, and has improved even more with less vegetables (I was eating tons of Brocolli, Cauliflower, Brussel Sprouts, Mixed greens, Asparagus, and little to no fruit's). I have the Carnivore Code and cookbook on the way, but I have consumed 15+ hrs at least of your youtube content, so I know what i need to do. Have a great week Paul.
I'm so glad that all sweet things make me feel nauseous. Never had a sweet tooth, so never eat honey.
That’s weird
You must have a perfectly balanced bacteria tummy. That’s awesome.
@@LostMachinima you don’t know
stop bragging
Having suffered through kidney stones, I appreciate you mentioning oxalates.
Good point. Very painful.
Another reason fruits are a safer food for humans, just be cautious of berries as they are super high in Oxalates.
@@SG-ji5ij
does that include kiwis aka Chinese goodberrys?
@@thakraken6995 kiwi and pomegranate are both high in oxalate as well. Best to eat those occasionally only.
@@SG-ji5ij you think fresh pineapple would be okay to have regularly since I think it only has about 4 mg of oxalates per cup?
mmmmm... nah.
Honey triggers my sugar cravings big time, and spikes the shit out of my insulin.
I'll stick with zero carb as much as I can
Same. I reckon the fructose is just getting lipo-converted and lumped in with the rest of my fatty liver from too much over my life... metabolically healthy? Eat what you like that doesn't break your health... shocking discovery from Paul hehe
I find honey satiating and reduces sugar cravings. I actually crave eggs when I eat honey. But I do eat raw organic local honey. Are you buying the honey coloured sugar syrup in a bear?
Raw honey or nah?
@Nomane Euger Why such an extreme? 1kg of honey is crazy
I think the issue for many of us is moderation, or lack of it to be precise. I had to eliminate even green apples from my diet because one apple led to three. Sugar is addictive for most of us, I suspect. 🥩 🥩 🥩
Same. I can’t have a little bit without wanting a whole lot more 😏 it sucks
@@sharmalarm I don't miss it as much as coffee, which I gave up in January. My husband makes it every morning, and that heavenly smell is torture! 😥
@@TerriblePerfection yikes, that is some serious torture, Luann! Amazing that you got off coffee though ✊ respect!
BINGO! Plus, today's fruits are grown with pesticides/herbicides, and have been genetically-modified to the point there is not much micronutrients but a lot of fructose. No thanks Dr. Salad(ino).
I had the same issue until a couple of weeks ago. I'm still sugar addicted but I figured out a few things that work for me.
First: No sweet desserts after I had a satisfying meal. If I eat a sweet dessert I can't stop eating no matter if its fruit/dried fruit or honey.
Second: Timing is everything. I do heavy workouts three times a week most of the time while I am fasted for 6-14 hours. Directly after a workout I eat about 2-3 teaspoons of honey. Then I shower, do some stretching and after at least 1 or 2 hours I eat my meal, mostly protein and fat, maybe very small amounts of carbs from like 1 carrot or a potato. On the next day I again eat 2-3 teaspoons of honey in between my two meals of the day at least 1 or 2 hours away from my main meals.
This works pretty well for me. I fell that my body wants a few carbs after I trained hard but the need goes away on the second day after working out.
But you're absolutely right. Sugar is very addictive and I have to be very mindful when I eat the honey or fruit. If I let myself have just one more spoon there is good chance that I will have one more and one more....aaaand juuuust one more until I feel like shit because 6 spoons are just too much. But everytime I experience the disgusting feeling of having had too much I think I am learning that there is a fine line and its very important to be mindful of it.
This all reminds me of how in semiconductors (all the basic materials that make up your phones and computer components) extremely small adjustments in the amount, variety, and dispersion of dopants cause meaningful differences in material properties.
Can you elaborate on the statement “I don’t think long term ketosis is good for humans” paul? I am zero carb
And what is considered long term?
Loosing hair is very common and frequent. It also have something to do with , hm, something in the liver - Dr. Andrew Huberman talked about this in his last or the one before podcast. The more I understand the topic the more I realize that ketosis is a highly effective medicine for sick people, not a beneficial long term state for fairly healthy people.
That is a great question! I always wondered that myself. What does Dr. Saladino mean by long term? Especially with cultures that live in frigid climates, like the Inuit, you would think that they are in ketosis most of the year because the climate they inhabit is simply not conducive to the growth of high starch or high sugar plant foods. They would have no access to honey either.
@@alphacause It's to do with the periodical cycling of healthy carbs, which is good for us.
@@simonal1989 You maybe right. I, quite frankly ,don't have enough knowledge to know one way or the other. If we grant the proposition that cycling of carbs is optimal for health, which I am assume is predicated on the notion that the individual is not metabolically ill, then what is the frequency of this carb cycling? Another way to reframe the question is how long should one go without carbs before it is advisable to temporarily introduce carbs?
You are a freaking genius.. love your work 👍👍
I put a but of honey in my bulletproof coffee, with sea salt. Cause I'm kinda punk rock like that
Thank you for all of your research 🙏🏼
On another note…no carnivore I’ve seen has the passion P.Salad does.
You just know he’s loving life. 💪🥩🍎
Exactly he’s just sharing his way of living with backup scientific proof.
I'm relieved to hear you mention that raw honey lowers triglycerides. I follow the carnivore diet and my last blood test revealed my triglyceride level at 151. So needless to say, I need to get that number lower. I love raw honey and would be happy to have a serving a day if it'll help.
Have things improved a year later? Were you meat only carnivore? 🙏
My diet in part contains 100gr of honey, 100 gr of raisins, 100gr of figs and
300 gr of dates on a daily basis.
When I made this change from a low carb diet my testosterone went from 500 to 900.
Calorie % is like 60 carbs, 20 protein and 20 fats.
No grains and vegetable oils, mostly fruits, honey, beets, carrots, milk, eggs, cheese, dark chocolate, butter and some nuts.
Ray Peat?
@@timesofourlives5642 Very much but not 100%, I eat meat only once a week so I supplement with glycine instead of gelatin.
How’s your bodyfat?
is not that much honey and dried fruit too much? what about your liver
and of course what about gut
In Paul’s book Carnivore Code, he disputes a lot of what he currently suggests. He doesn’t mention these things, but it’s good that he’s always learning & adjusting.
Agree. It does indicate openness and lack of dogmatism. Let's face it, Paul is not a carnivore, despite the title of his book. He probably eats plant carbs daily. It's about kinds and amounts.
Learning and adjusting, and unfortunately, not for the better. He has completely shot is credibility with "honey".
@@armanzbahrani291 But what about the benefits touted in the studies he presented?
@@torstrasburg8289 "Benefits" at what cost? More sugar addiction? And he is talking about 100grams, not 1 or 2 teaspoons. Any more than those and you'll have to really look at what's missing to then have to compensate with that much honey.
@@armanzbahrani291 It's admittedly perplexing. His experience with the Hazda seems to have justified his honey consumption. I, personally, enjoy 1 or 2 teaspoons. I simply could not do without the taste of sweet. It makes my meat-based more sustainable and enjoyable.
When I eat honey i get very sleepy
Thank you. Would you consider doing a presentation about including mushrooms in the diet?
I am interested as well as I read about their cell walls being more similar to animals than plants
@@nate8415 Mushrooms would tick a lot of boxes for Dr. Paul: an ancestral food, very therapeutic, can be sourced locally, good source of vitamin D(2) etc. There may concerns about oxylates.
@@nate8415 from a phylogenic standpoint they are more similar to animals than plants
@@LostMachinima: Not sure what point you’re making there. Are you suggesting that mushrooms haven’t been eaten by humans for millennia ( and can’t therefore be called ‘ancestral’ ).
@@LostMachinima ya... because new terms have never been invented in the history of the world as we learn more and more.
I'd like to know Dr. Paul's thoughts on how glycation and AGE's from processed fructose is different with honey's fructose? Does NO block that, is there another mechanism at work to prevent it, or does it do the same harm as HFCS fructose?
The main reason I avoid sugar, fruit, honey, etc. is the fructose, and fructose specifically due to the liver burden and the AGE's. I'd love to add honey to my diet, but not at the expense of my liver and skin/tissues. Evolutionary food or not, the narcissistic side of me wants to stay looking as young as possible for as long as possible.
Same for me. Well said.
Over thinking is deadly. What human eats honey all day everyday? Non. It's a compliment to a meal or a source of energy for traveling tribes. What human consumes honey in large quantity? Non. Chill out eat some honey.
@@YorkshirePiper Exactly ;)
@@YorkshirePiper Glad you commented so I could see this comment again and update. My views on carbs and fruit/honey have changed over the last 8 months. I don't like the idea of dogma and am always looking for new info and not just info that supports my confirmation bias. Honey is on the menu, as well as fruit, and starches like rice, potatoes, grits, and even wheat on occasion. Been working hard on fixing my metabolism so it's a dual fuel machine. So far so good. Been making substantial gains in the gym. It's amazing how well the body can run when you aren't gumming up the works with PUFA. Paul, Carnivore Aurelius, and Brad Marshall all have some good content on PUFA and sugar/starch.
I cant find this info anywhere : when you take honey or dates, (knowing that eating carbs with fat is a bad thing) do you eat them right after your meal or do you eat them 3h after?
You answered your question, didn’t you?
@@augustinascobotas8724 no, only Paul can answer that question.
You may try to experiment with blood glucose monitors or CGMs 🤓
Date honey is a traditional food in North Africa, and West Asia, and has been eaten in those areas for thousands of years.
I honestly think that if people eat closer to their ancestors, they will be better.
Eat your carbs with protein. Ideally before and during your workout (sip on water + honey). Stick to pressure-cooked white rice and dark honey. You can try dates if you digest them properly.
Honey has always always raised my glucose levels just like sugar does as a T1 juvenile diabetic for the past 30yrs now. I don’t see how it would be any different for a normal person bc even a normal person would need to get insulin from their pancreas to bring it back down.
The spike isn’t what matters, rather what matters is the areas under the curve
@@weich1q2w exactly. A short one hour spike is actually needed for proper kidney health.
@@weich1q2w larger spikes equal more insulin and more chance of hypoglycemia. Id avoid major excursions im general if i were type 1 diabetic.
Great info, Paul!
Here’s to your health Dr S, and thank you ♥️👍
I love how you say Fructose. Really makes it sound like a bad word. How appropriate.
Exactly. I caught that too. Fuc-tose
You make me smile, I know you love your honey and yes there’s some redeeming qualities but it’s basically sugar. We all want to search high and low for good information about the foods we love. You are, I believe metabolic flexible but anyone who is insulin resistant etc should lay off honey. Honey wasn’t available 24/7 in evolutionary times. I still love your work.
Good point.
insulin resistance only exists in todays climates. people dont exercise and eat far too many carbohydrates.
if sugar is your only carb and u exercise u will never have insulin resistance ur muscles need to be worked to deep levels of fatigue to tap in to your glycogen stores which most people never cleave in the first place u resist the insulin because u never need more.
I agree with you Valerie. I think anyone who es insuline resistant should lay off honey and fruits.
I tried Saladinos advice on the honey and fruits and my blood glucose went up sky!
@@cesarhernandez7108 maybe you should exercise if u can
Honey on Carnivore:
1 Tsp Manuka honey in the morning right before workout.
1 Tsp Manuka honey mid day
1 Tsp Manuka honey evening.
That's only 1 Tbsp honey per day, only about 17gm of carbs so it won't affect ketosis & still gives the body a good boost with no negative side affects.
Some discipline needed to not overuse.
Dr. Saladino, the research study you refer to is N=8 ..? Is this enough info from 8 people in an uncontrolled environment to really base your info off of about honey? Maybe I'm not understanding something correctly.
Amazing video! I eat a teaspoon of cinnamon with 2 tablespoons of raw honey every morning mixed in room temperature water. My theory was that cinnamon lowers insulin spike so I always take honey with cinnamon. Remember too much cinnamon will cause liver damage. Regular store bought (cassia) cinnamon is the strongest in preventing cancer but is also the most harmful to the liver. I'd say never use more than a teaspoon of cinnamon just to be safe. Ceylon cinnamon is safe at about 2 ¹/² teaspoons because ceylon is less harmful on the liver but you need more of it to retain the benefits
Fruit and honey has a place. Maybe a small one…but a valuable one none the less. 🥩 🍎
i would like to see a head to head with honey and berries at equal net carbs.
I would stick with berries.
Berries would have a much lower glycemic index by far.
I hope one day to be healthy enough to not care about ketosis but I don't even need to test myself I know if I am in ketosis or not by my pain levels in ketosis my pain is a about 85% gone. I also wish i was healthy enough to include honey but anything sweet even the fake stuff is like a narcotic for me a tiny bit and I am off on a bender, followed by the guilt and the shame and worse then followed by the horrid withdrawal.
Great talk! Thanks Paul!
Next he'll be telling you to eat bees nose to tail!
🐝🐝🐝🐝
Lol we'll call those the new poppers.. like jalapeño poppers...how about dip them in their own honey. Seems so sinister lol
Lmao
I think it well advised to avoid the "tail".
@@unchainedcrochet446 😂😂😂 poor bees don’t deserve to be eaten
OK guys, it's time for the truth here. I have read a lot of the comments, and there is a huge hole in Saladino's argument about fruit. Most of us understand that fruits are sweet, natural and the tree wants us to eat it to spread the seeds. I think this is a correct observation.
However, what I have learned is the evolutionary role of fructose is not what Paul and most of the rest of you think it is. Just because fruit is natural, does not mean it's always good for you.
The reality is that fruit consumption is a survival mechanism used by literally all mammals and most animals to survive. Us humans as a species would not be here today if it were not for fruit and fructose.
Fructose, not glucose, is the sweet sugar that makes fruit taste good. It is also addicting, because nature wants us to eat as much of it as possible before the fruits are all gone. Think about it; when are most fruits ripe and available? In the fall, just before the winter when food becomes scarce. Our ancestors ate fruits in the fall, and the fructose put them into metabolic change like insulin resistance, and prioritized energy for their brains, along with changing their metabolism to help them gain weight. Fructose causes energy depletion at the cellular level, and also causes leptin resistance, which causes us to eat more. If you eat too much ripe fruit, or sugar you can gain weight, especially if you eat it every day for years.
Humans are not the only animal that reacts to fruit and fructose this way. Bears will eat 10,000 berries a day preparing for their hibernation. Birds will gorge on fruit to gain weight so they can migrate long distances without food. The pacu fish in the Amazon river will eat fruit during the flooding stage when it falls from trees, and this helps them gain weight until the next feeding season. The naked mole rat will eat fructose to go into a state of hypoxia which allows them to survive low oxygen conditions. Camels will eat fruit to help them gain weight so they can use the fat they store in their hump as a source of metabolic water to help them survive arid environments. When fat is burned, it produces water. This is also where whales get their source of water from. They don't drink sea water.
This is the actual reason you don't want to eat fruit, unless you are purposely trying to gain weight or go into metabolic syndrome. The fructose which is in sugar and fruit is nature's metabolic change nutrient and nature's weight gaining chemical. Avoid it if you don't want change your metabolism.
This is what Dr. Richard Johnson figured out and explains. It makes perfect scientific and evolutionary sense.
Don't believe me? Read his book "Nature Wants Us To Be Fat" or watch the following scientific explanation of what fructose does to our body and tell me I'm wrong:
th-cam.com/video/4Cqkyxm25Dc/w-d-xo.html
@Trent Walker Yes, I completely agree. Makes sense, but fructose will cause you to gain fat, and that is OK, but if you do it too much, you may get more fat than you want. Good post. Our ancestors only had access to fruit usually in the fall when fruit ripened. You can see what fructose does to people today who eat it year round without the fiber and good things fruit does for you.
@Trent Walker It's hard for me because I get addicted to the sugar in fruit, and I want to keep eating it...
I actually started eating fruit and raw, organic, dark honey in the AM.
How's it been working out?
@@ericsalinas1839 Had a little more energy for the workout but my shoulder and lower back pain returned in 2 weeks. I'm 56 years old. Dropped the fruit and honey.
Is there an amount of honey/fruit you recommend per day fpr people, and is there a certain time window when they should be taken Dr Saladino?
Exluding honey , "sugar" other than pure sugar cane is processed. My husband is a beekeeper .I consume Lots of honey. Sugar cane (?) Not problematic
In my opinion any processing of both will start problems
Honey and sucrose are both the same in terms of macros. But honey contains micronutrients that are not present in sugar. It's mainly the absence of essential micros that cause nutritional deficiencies. Too much focus on macros and ignoring the importance of micros. The magic is really in the micronutrients. I consume organic bee pollen granules and daily 4g Redmond sea salt for the essential minerals content for this reason.
Possibly you could do a show on how to do great research like you do Paul. I wouldn’t know the first place to look for these studies. I suppose I’d type into google something like “recent, double blind, placebo controlled, nutrition study on food”. Possibly if we all could investigate studies wisely this could start a domino effect in a positive direction.
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Where can I find the plant toxicity spectrum chart you spoke of?
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Thanks for this vid. Consider doing a video on grounding.
'Honey high in Vitamin Bee?!.
Too Doctory for me...
What kind of honey you recomend paul? What brand?
❤️You made my day again...
I feel great with honey, I don't feel great when I eat sugar. That's my 2 cents.
Myself
Yep!
Probably the mineral content of honey
Advice for the metabolically healthy. So if you are the part of the 8-12% you can have some hone.
When listening to many of these guys you have to remember how healthy and impeccably disciplined guys like this are. If you have any indication of metabolic disease, the advantages of eating honey are going to be masked by the insulin spike and the inflammation caused by the glycation.
The more I check everyone out for nutrition ...ray Peat is prob always right
Flash forward to 2023 Georgi is on Paul’s podcast haha
"Honey caused GREATER elevation of insulin" - Am I missing something here? - I though high insulin is what we DONT want??
What is the best time to have honey on a carnivore diet? Is it Ok to use honey at Breaking the fast? Or should it be consumed after first meal ? Between meal ?
Before sleep?
You dont want to eat much simple sugars (such as honey) before bed, It still raises insulin though less than other sources. Insulin secretion inhibits gh from sleep - just eat it once a day and dont worry about other details.
I won’t promote honey. But please select raw if you want the healthy micronutrients.
@@cps_Zen_Run I have never seen Paul promote honey without emphasizing that it should be raw, organic, and local. This clip is no exception. So, if anyone hasn't gotten that already, they aren't going to 😜
@@gummixx6885 thank you
@@cps_Zen_Run got it
It would be a lot more convincing if you questioned anything in the papers. I have seen hundreds of people splashing up citations from studies they have cherry-picked to claim any nutrition fact is correct. "So much good science" is a huge exaggeration...
In his conclusion: eat raw honey instead of sugar or hfcs, eat fruit (in moderation) instead of sugar, eat sea salt instead of nacl salt, take magnesium supplements.
Good video. Science. Thank you.
Saw a fructose researcher detail how fruit was also protective of the nitric oxide pathway that fructose normally degrades. Can't remember details - maybe something to do with Vit C? Or fibre? Anyway...
My experience with honey and carnivore: acne/dandruff/fat gain/cravings. My experience with nose-to-tail zero carb carnivore: beast mode skin/hair/muscle. I will even go as far to say that Paul Saladino's skin was more beast mode when he was in first few months of zero carb carnivore than it is now.
We also have to take into consideration that we are not all the same metabolically. Some people might do better with carbs than others. I am also doing better on at least a low carb diet but I also enjoy some carb cycling from time to time. I also know some people that don't do good with raw honey and have some kind of allergic reaction to it. It's definitely better than pure sugar but if you don't tolerate it well, there is no real use for it I guess. Like Paul says he doesn't do good with milk products doesn't mean no one else should consume them. Just be aware of yourself. Thanks for sharing your experience
How much honey did you eat in a day?
I ate a lot of honey because I have issues with cravings and I got a ton of dandruff. Even with Paul check out his skin in the earliest videos vs today and although it is still good I will argue that his skin was beast mode when he was doing zero carb carnivore.
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Fair enough. I have struggled with cravings as well and I had to learn to say no to anything that isn't strictly meat and so introducing honey sounds like playing with fire if sugar addiction is a big reason why you went carnivore.
I think there is some merit to the skin thing. Hard to tell though
@@michaelcitrenbaum1345 The dose makes the poison. You admitted that you ''ate a lot of honey'' which explains your negative experience. I have an AI disease and I've been a carnivore for more than a year. I started taking 1tbsp of honey before my worker and sipped on 1 tbsp with water during my workout. I also added 50g of rice to my minced beef and I've never felt better in my life. I'm much more explosive and performant during my workouts, my CRP is low and don't have any inflammation.
We're all different but I think you should be able to tolerate honey if you avoid overindulging. It all comes down to self-control.
Sadly, coffee also depletes magnesium among other electrolytes
The salt facts were fascinating!
why should you eat honey?
hemp seeds are actually very high in magnesium and low in oxalates
Hi Paul, awesome sauce on the topics! Raw cream with raw local unheated raw honey makes for great whipped cream awesome sauce. Ok the question is regarding the underlying causes and contributions to metabolic dysregulation. Did you do a podcast on that topic or what would one look for? Certaily insulin production, insulin resistance, etc...Power and Grace
maybe blood vitamin C was higher when consuming honey, because needed vitamin C quickly accessible in order to process the carbohydrates from honey?!
I really liked this episode! Do the Hodza women and children eat honey also?
And L-Serine appears to be good for your gut. In mouse studies L-Serine reduces leaky gut. I tried some L-serine capsules and I had a sore stomach for the first day. I think that was the L-Serine getting rid of bacteria that cause leaky gut. Now I'm feeling just fine; less bloating, more energy and less smelly! Leaky gut causes things to go into your bloodstream which make you more smelly! L-Serine also helps with ALS. I would start with just one capsule on your day off... and stay near a toilet just in case... but after the first day you will probably feel better.
Do you think L serine healed your leaky gut?
@@markmaxwell4890 I think it might have helped. Almost forgot... might buy some more!
@@justandy7963 i just want to know if it helped. You or not ?
Could you do a video on honey and blood pressure. Specifically preeclampsia?
awesome video fkn thanks
Great video! Any thoughts on royal jelly I believe it’s lower in carbs?
How much honey do you eat or would you say is decent based on the protein fat intake % wise. I see you mentioning you eat honey but not discussing ok amounts? and do you just take a spoonful or have it with hot water, tea maybe etc.? thanks
Does not raw honey kills the friendly bacteria in our gut since everybody says is antibacterial? Should not be cooked a little bit?
Appreciate your research man! Thank you for your knowledge and sharing what you know.
real honey is not available in abundance- our Ancestors treated pier honey as a medicine. PERIOD
Very true. Honey was never consumed on a regular basis. It was a very difficult food to come across (you’d have to find an active hive).
Then, the amount of work required to access the hive and extract the comb and honey required multiple tribesmen to passify the bees, then climb a tree where the hive was usually attached to. Then cut a portion off.
At best, it was used medicinally or on a rare occasion split amongst the tribe in small amounts as a rare treat.
To consume honey daily is inconsistent with ancestral eating. The same is said for fruit, which typically is eaten seasonally at the end of summer when it’s only naturally available.
Not sure why Paul fails to leave this reasoning out.
Thanks Paul! I found a great source of local honey!
Dr. Paul, how much honey do you eat in a day?
Dr Saladino, I can't find the video where you interviewed the doctor doing scans of his patients brains before and after carnivore showing plaque removal. Can you tell me the title please. Or if any one else knows, please comment. Thank you
O'Meara..
@@bradr539 Thank you farmer! But I can't find a video with O'Meara in the title. Can you post the URL for me? Much appreciated!
i was literally talking about caloric density of sugar honey and maple yesterday
Talking means literally. No need to add that word in as it's redundant. A better choice would be “just”.
How does unrefined sugar (sugar cane, coconut sugar etc.) compare to refined sugar, or honey? Could the minerals and other compounds found in them make it healthier than refined sugar?
So my local store has organic but not raw or raw but not organic. Which is better?
I guess I need to buy some Frankie's grass fed honey...
Those bees live on eyebrow pollen and arrogance.Mmm..
Thank you Paul! you put out some amazing info in this video. So stoked to hear that you got to hunt and eat with the Hadza :D I'm curious if they only eat honey or all other bee products as well. What do you think about bee polen or propolis? thanks!
I am concerned that sea sal has become degraded by plastics in the oceans and perhaps a land source would now be better.
Why would anyone eat pure fructose? So, eating a sweet carbohydrate that doesnt raise blood glucose.. sounds like a red flag to me.
Could not agree more!
If fructose takes 24 hours to clear the liver then daily consumption would cause triglycerides to accumulate in the liver surely
Anyone know if it's okay to warm up raw honey slightly to make it flow better, or adding it to warm water to dissolve for a drink? Adding it to drinkable hot water or tea?
Best way to do this is put the jar of honey in a bowl of warm water this way it doesn’t come close to being heated up enough to damage any of the compounds in the honey