When we had horses in the 80's, after putting out grass seed I used an old box springs tied to my PU and concrete blocks on the springs to hold them down.
Guess I'm too old school, drag harrow. It's what I grew up with, and continue to use today. Never used the chain harrows. Certain weather conditions (drought), we'd used the culti-packer pulling the drag harrow. Broke up the "clods" or clumps that wouldn't break up with the disc. For seeding our hay fields, we'd seed, then follow up with again, the culti-packer and harrow setup. Always had the best hay fields around. Never had issues with field wash outs either from heavy rains when we'd get them. Thanks for your explanation on them. Cheers :)
Looks like a really great piece of equipment and does the job better then expected cant ask for more. The fields just from the video looks awesome. Hope everything keeps going smooth and safe for u guys. Have a good one Travis
This type of harrow has been used for a long time. We had one with a narrow wooden log on which you hung the harrow parts. We called it a hundred peg harrow, or diamond harrow. It feels like it was about 500 years ago.
Looks like you guys are putting your new trailer to use. We love our roller, would never go without it. Puts less pressure down per square inch than a foot print. Degelman, mandako, or newer rite ways are what i recommend.Any questions on rollers, Just ask, i can offer lots of advice.
If you rent a roller or have someone do it for you try both ways first roll after planting then roll before planting. You will love planting into the rolled first ground and pick up mph planting. We can't justify owning a large roller and neighbor custom rolls has 2 of them and always seems to work us in. Only downfall is once rolled wind picks up sometimes blowing stalks become and issue and hard rains right after.
I love my roller wouldn't be without it i use it after planting it makes a super smooth hay field and i also use it after planting corn i find i get better emergence and it also locks in the moisture so if the rain drys up your crop still has lots of moisture to germinate and grow
For how actually heavy those field rollers are the only they only put about 1-2psi down, they increase in pressure when a rock picks them up off the ground centralizing there weight on top of the rock pushing it down. Because a bearing went out or it has started raining (never want to run in wet soil, packs the roller and will completely stop you) we have left fields half done and you can tell exactly where the split is with different yield. We pull a 62ft. Rite-way with a New Holland 8970, 250hp., about 21,000lbs. and down hills if you're not paying attention it will push you sideways. It definitely has the right power for it, can pull it about 10-11mph, but could use a little bit more ballast to help keep you going straight when it pushes you around
Over here everyone runs some kind of roller. Think the rinh type is called Cambridge, one smooth and one "spiked" in pairs. I don't think I've seen a smooth barrel type roller like degelman at all in norway. When I was a kid we rented a house on a farm, they used a stonebucket(not a bucket, just like a silage fork with 3 inches between the tines) on the three point, and the roller on the pickup hitch, whenever you saw a rock that wasent pushed down you jumped out if the no cab ford 5000 on threw it in the bucket. We picked rocks too, 5 kids/teenagers and a tractor+trailer. They youngest guy just had the width of the tractor and walked behind it. The elder ones had a 2 seeder widths each on then sides. so with a 3meter/10ft seeder you would do 24meter/80ft swaths. Today with bigger rollers, disc type cultivators and seeders, which all helps pushing stones down, stonepicking is something from the past on most farms. But I earned my first money picking stones, 20hours or so each spring :) th-cam.com/video/iXWYIgmihcY/w-d-xo.html
We had an old summers harrow I'm pretty sure it was a 12 section it was about 50 feet wide anyway we cut of the sections and the scrapped rest because ot was worn out and we didn't it anymore
Don't worry .just get them out when you have the time.i can wait no problem.i have not used a roller myself I ran a narrow years ago too.mu last year on the farm we had the same chain stule like your but it was 34 feet wide.i think they have bigger ones now.but it was the biggest summer equipment made at the time
Years ago here in Ireland when we used the grain drills we always attached the chain harrow to the grain drill its the same job it just didn't need an extra man and tractor but we did use a roller then a few years ago we used a rigged roller it didn't compact the ground but it pushed the stones down a lot better
We have a 50ft Mandako roller that we use on peas and lentils in North Dakota. We pulled it with a Case 2594, and that had more power than it required. now we pull it with out Puma 225 or Magnum 340 both are extremely overkill but they both have auto steer. It doesn't look like this be a problem with your ground but with ours it's hard to see where you've rolled.
"Fuerst" is correct, and yes, it is a massive improvement over previous models. If one of you is running the drill at Mach chicken, it will be time to set down the Mountain Dew and slowly back away. Strongbow might be the appropriate remedy at that point. This is a nice tool that has probably cash-flowed itself in the relatively short time your dad has owned it if you consider the increased soybean yield.
The only reason land rollers will compact the ground is if it is too wet... if it is on the drier side there's no issues, but can have more compaction issues on tilled ground vs no-till. The land rollers come in handy for soybeans and hayfields. There's lots of brands... degelman, summers, mandako that I know of, but I've seen some other ones too. I run a 45' landroller with a T7030, and on hilly terrain it does struggle a little bit with the weight, but it handles it good yet. If you ever do get one, perhaps a smaller one, the 7600 should be fine... other than that if it is a bigger one you might have to put it on the 82
We had a old wooden frame metal tooth drag. Hooked on a digger I think it was 10 ft. 🤔 But with dads handy work took it all apart an reassemble it to a small drag. Enough to pull behind a lawn tractor. Our neighbor with a big dairy operation has a field roller with wings! Sitting by their semi trucks....kinda curious about them.
I'm looking for an implement to help smooth out ridges left from a tandem disc. I am trying to prep 25 acres for hay pasture. In your opinion, is the chain harrow the best option, or some type of ridgid tooth harrow like an old harrow gator? I have taken the advice of others and tried dragging a heavy piece of steel through the field ( I beam in my case) and all it's doing is creating a huge pile of dirt and eventually dumping it all at once. Thank you
A man walking across the tilled dirt compacts the soil more than a land roller. We have an 18 foot we share with 2 neighbors. Usually put our 8100 on it and it's fine pulling, turning around with it the roller pulls you to one side too much for my comfort. Definitley wouldn't pull a bigger one with it.
Curious of the pros and cons on alfalfa for beef cows that you see. My area winters are not as harsh cows will prefer grass hay. Im lazy on my seeding i just chain bar harrow to the drill or disc. Just don’t back up. Lol
We run a land roller after planting winter wheat and even corn and peas in the spring and there are 2 reasons for that. Levels the field really really good, and provides better soil contact with the seed, thus helping even emergence. Our planter skips every now and then or you hit a rock or something and the seed stays on the surface, but with the land roller you press it into the ground real nice. These are my 2 cents on the topic of running land rollers. As for soil compaction - I have not seen any real evidence for the last 7 years of doing this.
The 7600 could handle a lot bigger roller then 20 ft. We have a 35 ft and a 40 ft roller and we use the smallest tractor we have...usually the old 8100. Can't even feel it back there just like your harrow. Just keep it under 5 mph so the roller isnt bouncing and leaving washboards.
Another good video Travis we learn so much from watching you and that's what we appreciate and that's why we watch be safe
When we had horses in the 80's, after putting out grass seed I used an old box springs tied to my PU and concrete blocks on the springs to hold them down.
Great video. Noticing in the background you are guys are putting that equipment trailer to work already.
Guess I'm too old school, drag harrow. It's what I grew up with, and continue to use today. Never used the chain harrows. Certain weather conditions (drought), we'd used the culti-packer pulling the drag harrow. Broke up the "clods" or clumps that wouldn't break up with the disc. For seeding our hay fields, we'd seed, then follow up with again, the culti-packer and harrow setup. Always had the best hay fields around. Never had issues with field wash outs either from heavy rains when we'd get them.
Thanks for your explanation on them. Cheers :)
Chain Harrows are great, we use it in the hay fields for thatching to👍
Nice unit, we always used just a mat,or a tree to level things, quite a nice piece of equipment
Looks like a really great piece of equipment and does the job better then expected cant ask for more. The fields just from the video looks awesome. Hope everything keeps going smooth and safe for u guys. Have a good one Travis
We had a 12' CaseIH grain drill/seeder and we hooked a 12' Brillion packer behind. It made a really nice flat seedbed.
We rigged up a hitch on our drill that we hook a culti-packer to when seeding oats/alfalfa. Works great can find them everywhere few hundred bucks
This type of harrow has been used for a long time.
We had one with a narrow wooden log on which you hung the harrow parts.
We called it a hundred peg harrow, or diamond harrow.
It feels like it was about 500 years ago.
Great video Travis thanks for sharing have a great day and stay safe out there
What a sweet piece of equipment great vid
Looks like you guys are putting your new trailer to use. We love our roller, would never go without it. Puts less pressure down per square inch than a foot print. Degelman, mandako, or newer rite ways are what i recommend.Any questions on rollers, Just ask, i can offer lots of advice.
If you rent a roller or have someone do it for you try both ways first roll after planting then roll before planting. You will love planting into the rolled first ground and pick up mph planting. We can't justify owning a large roller and neighbor custom rolls has 2 of them and always seems to work us in. Only downfall is once rolled wind picks up sometimes blowing stalks become and issue and hard rains right after.
thanks for the video travis
In a prevoius video you say you want to expand they operation, are you going to pourchase a bigger combine in they near future? Thanks
Someday
I love my roller wouldn't be without it i use it after planting it makes a super smooth hay field and i also use it after planting corn i find i get better emergence and it also locks in the moisture so if the rain drys up your crop still has lots of moisture to germinate and grow
For how actually heavy those field rollers are the only they only put about 1-2psi down, they increase in pressure when a rock picks them up off the ground centralizing there weight on top of the rock pushing it down. Because a bearing went out or it has started raining (never want to run in wet soil, packs the roller and will completely stop you) we have left fields half done and you can tell exactly where the split is with different yield.
We pull a 62ft. Rite-way with a New Holland 8970, 250hp., about 21,000lbs. and down hills if you're not paying attention it will push you sideways. It definitely has the right power for it, can pull it about 10-11mph, but could use a little bit more ballast to help keep you going straight when it pushes you around
Over here everyone runs some kind of roller. Think the rinh type is called Cambridge, one smooth and one "spiked" in pairs. I don't think I've seen a smooth barrel type roller like degelman at all in norway. When I was a kid we rented a house on a farm, they used a stonebucket(not a bucket, just like a silage fork with 3 inches between the tines) on the three point, and the roller on the pickup hitch, whenever you saw a rock that wasent pushed down you jumped out if the no cab ford 5000 on threw it in the bucket. We picked rocks too, 5 kids/teenagers and a tractor+trailer. They youngest guy just had the width of the tractor and walked behind it. The elder ones had a 2 seeder widths each on then sides. so with a 3meter/10ft seeder you would do 24meter/80ft swaths. Today with bigger rollers, disc type cultivators and seeders, which all helps pushing stones down, stonepicking is something from the past on most farms. But I earned my first money picking stones, 20hours or so each spring :) th-cam.com/video/iXWYIgmihcY/w-d-xo.html
We had an old summers harrow I'm pretty sure it was a 12 section it was about 50 feet wide anyway we cut of the sections and the scrapped rest because ot was worn out and we didn't it anymore
Thumbs up for Paul Harvey.
Don't worry .just get them out when you have the time.i can wait no problem.i have not used a roller myself
I ran a narrow years ago too.mu last year on the farm we had the same chain stule like your but it was 34 feet wide.i think they have bigger ones now.but it was the biggest summer equipment made at the time
Years ago here in Ireland when we used the grain drills we always attached the chain harrow to the grain drill its the same job it just didn't need an extra man and tractor but we did use a roller then a few years ago we used a rigged roller it didn't compact the ground but it pushed the stones down a lot better
We have a 50ft Mandako roller that we use on peas and lentils in North Dakota. We pulled it with a Case 2594, and that had more power than it required. now we pull it with out Puma 225 or Magnum 340 both are extremely overkill but they both have auto steer. It doesn't look like this be a problem with your ground but with ours it's hard to see where you've rolled.
"Fuerst" is correct, and yes, it is a massive improvement over previous models. If one of you is running the drill at Mach chicken, it will be time to set down the Mountain Dew and slowly back away. Strongbow might be the appropriate remedy at that point. This is a nice tool that has probably cash-flowed itself in the relatively short time your dad has owned it if you consider the increased soybean yield.
That's diffenent. We do just a cultivator (one implement). anyways, neat. Probably the same idea. =p
The farm I work for has a large roller, they say it’ll push a stone the size of a volleyball back in the ground.
I had never seen rollers till a few years ago
The only reason land rollers will compact the ground is if it is too wet... if it is on the drier side there's no issues, but can have more compaction issues on tilled ground vs no-till. The land rollers come in handy for soybeans and hayfields.
There's lots of brands... degelman, summers, mandako that I know of, but I've seen some other ones too. I run a 45' landroller with a T7030, and on hilly terrain it does struggle a little bit with the weight, but it handles it good yet. If you ever do get one, perhaps a smaller one, the 7600 should be fine... other than that if it is a bigger one you might have to put it on the 82
I'll be using the land roller after seeding the peas. I have a video way back of using one..its not that great of a video though.
We had a old wooden frame metal tooth drag. Hooked on a digger I think it was 10 ft. 🤔 But with dads handy work took it all apart an reassemble it to a small drag. Enough to pull behind a lawn tractor. Our neighbor with a big dairy operation has a field roller with wings! Sitting by their semi trucks....kinda curious about them.
Travis love your video and commentary. Just asking would it work if you had a set of rollers behind what you are showing now??
How do your alfalfa stands turn out? I would think there would be some bare spots where this thing would cover alfalfa a little deep
I'm looking for an implement to help smooth out ridges left from a tandem disc. I am trying to prep 25 acres for hay pasture. In your opinion, is the chain harrow the best option, or some type of ridgid tooth harrow like an old harrow gator? I have taken the advice of others and tried dragging a heavy piece of steel through the field ( I beam in my case) and all it's doing is creating a huge pile of dirt and eventually dumping it all at once. Thank you
Drag chain like this works great. Moves more dirt than the fixed tooth Lindsey harrow. Can do more in less passes.
@@TheRestOfTheStory thank you for your response
2:20 I think he meant grain drill(planter) not harrow
Look at a brillion field roller our family have one 20 footand they hook it up behind a 20 foot planter like a big John deers one
A man walking across the tilled dirt compacts the soil more than a land roller. We have an 18 foot we share with 2 neighbors. Usually put our 8100 on it and it's fine pulling, turning around with it the roller pulls you to one side too much for my comfort. Definitley wouldn't pull a bigger one with it.
Curious of the pros and cons on alfalfa for beef cows that you see. My area winters are not as harsh cows will prefer grass hay. Im lazy on my seeding i just chain bar harrow to the drill or disc. Just don’t back up. Lol
If a company made a short grass baler; would that change the hay market?
What Brand Alfalfa did you guy's plant? Thanks Travis great video😎👍👍👍
The large diameter of the field rollers also help prevent compaction compared to a traditional packer.
Great video
Could be a McFarland peice of equipment same design we have only have harrow sections instead of chairs
Got a 51 foot degelman have done about 20,000 acres with it never had a problem with it
We run a land roller after planting winter wheat and even corn and peas in the spring and there are 2 reasons for that. Levels the field really really good, and provides better soil contact with the seed, thus helping even emergence. Our planter skips every now and then or you hit a rock or something and the seed stays on the surface, but with the land roller you press it into the ground real nice. These are my 2 cents on the topic of running land rollers. As for soil compaction - I have not seen any real evidence for the last 7 years of doing this.
Tire Ject will fix that leak
You need an implement like that except have rock tines and scoop up all the rocks.
What does this equipment do?
Check out a brilliant mulcher
I’m curious as to why you’d harrow ground that had been drill seeded. Aren’t you concerned it will pull the seed back out?
If anything I'd say it's burying any seed that didn't get covered
I always thought that to..but it really doesnt
That it does or doesnt bury the seed?
@@TheRestOfTheStory that it would pull the seed back up and mess it around..but it doesnt
White Wall tires>>>
in brazil I do no-till and I have never seen this equipment
Pull a 35 ft brillion roler behind a 115 hp two wheel drive with put any truble in the hills
I had a brillion culipacker nihind the disc
Across != Acrost
Need a roller to go on behind the earth master VT
The 7600 could handle a lot bigger roller then 20 ft. We have a 35 ft and a 40 ft roller and we use the smallest tractor we have...usually the old 8100. Can't even feel it back there just like your harrow. Just keep it under 5 mph so the roller isnt bouncing and leaving washboards.
A Ring Roller Dose not compact the ground, it's the tractor that compact it and we use wide dual wheels on the back and sometimes on the front
We are specifically using a Väderstad Rolex and they work very good but i think there is many more ring rollers out there
If you want a real harrow go get a 16 bar McFarland. They are the best!