Disc Harrowing Field, Preparing it to plant with Grass Hay
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- Today I am going to start working the field that we plan to plant with grass hay. This will be the first of several times Discing this field, to kill the grass and weeds that are growing it. I am using a 12 foot international Harvester disc harrow to till up the soil and prepare for seed.
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Everybody has an opinion. Do things your way, it usually is fine. I have farmed for years...I don't think I asked anyone their opinion. I just did it...
maybe you knew what you were doing.
Great job Evan. I’m old school, I might have chosen Moldboard plowing. You got her looking good.
Its not anyones business how you work your fields or run your equipment and ppl can shut the hell up honestly. 🤨 We as viewers have no say in the matter with what you do. I’ve noticed a lot of ppls channels were they are explaining themselves because of complaining bitching viewers..its pitiful and disturbing. no need to explain your business brother your doing a great job 👏
Facts🤘
students needs to learn how farm tools works bru. do u even know that this was taught in school? or u just dont go to school when u were young 🙄
@user-rf1lh7bc2z u too i did not go to school when u were young can u even a shame of ur self for saying that??
100%
I applaud you for going chemical free. Most people do not realize that you are what you eat. If you wonder why more people these days end up sickly then just read the list of chemicals on your food labels.
Glad to see you going the extra mile by not using chemicals. Good job, don’t worry about any naysayers.
I am not a farmer, but I am right there with you, Mr. Dave ... a little more gas, a lot less chemicals, and a lot healthier critters in the food chain. I def appreciate the added effort Mr. Evan takes to do things right, and healthier food is extremely important.
This channel has definitely attracted way more naysayers than it needs!! Evan has a good channel and he is a good person!
He even doubled plowed it in one setting instead of having to go around twice saving fuel, labor, wear on equipment and time. 👏 👏
Some people live to put negative judgmental comments
Just ignore them
I'm not gonna say any of that spraying or mowing.
I'm gonna suggest ploughing it before disc-harrowing it, to turn the turf over.
You might need one 5 or 10 years from now anyways, as you get more unwanted species in your hayfields.
discing.........leave enough room at headland to RAISE disc and turn around and disc tight up against soil already disced.
(A 12 ft disc and tractor doesn't take a lot of room.)
Never disc twice in the same direction.
Disc headlands when done or disc headlands first then disc headlands again when done.
When you work your fields you are getting an ever smaller box which makes for really tight turns when you get to the middle. If you plow up one side then down the middle to start , you can keep your box the same size as you work your way across the field and eliminate those tight u turns at the end.
Good job with the overlap.
Another poster who doesn't know the difference between discing and plowing.
@@douglasmacarthur8775 it doesnt make any difference if he is plowing or discing , my comment was about the method of doing the field. Why didnt you comment on that? I'm sure that since you are such a genius about all things farming that you could at least come up with a helpful suggestion for him.
@@jameshaynie4570 ..suggestion is posted above.
Method for plowing and discing are NOT the same because a plow turns soil to the right and thus you can't turn around and go back unless you have a two-way roll over plow.
With a disc you CAN go up, turn around, and come back.
Thanks
@@douglasmacarthur8775 did I say anything about turning around and going back over the same path??
I watch your videos every time you post one and enjoy them. I just watched you discing your new hay field. You are discing it not plowing it! Plowing is a different implement!
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That smell of freshly turned soil make me long for days long gone
And as a guitarist of 59+ years, I would like to say, "Thanks!" for all the great guitar music!
Just bought a used mahindra 85hp with 70 hours. Got a disc harrow and brush hog. Looking to start doing hay on my property with my father. Good video for a new comer. Thanks!
I know my Dad never used chemicals, mostly because they were expensive. Farmers fed the world for decades without chemicals. It's more work certainly, but definitely better overall.
That TYM didn't seem to even grunt hard. Nice machine. You may need a bigger disc!🤪 I predict this hay field is going to be a winner. Good job, Evan.
I think you done a great job, by NOT using chemicals to kill off the grass.
We are using to many chemicals in everything today.... GREAT JOB
I agree with your “no chemical” decision.
Good work..
I just keep thinking...He has got to be loving that tractor!
Do whatever you think is best for your property, you're the one who has to live there.I loved seeing that old disk harrow working. Wonderful video!!
Great no chemicals.You are doing the right thing.If you sell your hay chemical free is what the buyers want for their animals.
Excellent way to incorporate organic matter in to the soil that doesn't work as well with kill down chemicals an organic matter is like free fertilizer nice job thanks for sharing
I grew up on a dairy farm and your disking of the field was a perfect example of how we farmed 50 years ago. There is nothing wrong with using the methods of the past. I believe today's methods are very hard on the soil (round-up for example). Now today the farmer can produce so much more off the same land, but the crops are not as healthy for people or animals to consume. So farming is a give and take kind of relationship = you'll get back what you put in. I personally think you are doing a good job! (Makes me wish I was young again...ha ha). Thanks for sharing I enjoyed this video.
You’re just talking out of your ass. Past farmers soil practices were detrimental to the soil
especially considering round-up is a proven carcinogen
I think you made the right choice to plow and not spray chemicals.
Next purchase should be a offset flail mower for the hedge rows and trees will really take care of them
Great idea
I looked at them, but I don't think they mow out far enough for around the pond and pond dam. So I was looking at boom mowers. But they are expensive
@@CountryViewAcres yep it's hard to spend a lot of money unless you can use it for more than one purpose.
@@CountryViewAcres shame about how expensive it can be , maybe demo one and get what you need done during the demo 😂
@@CountryViewAcres I just sold a 20 foot boom mower for 1500.00, it had a 6 foot flail
Plowing the vegetation into the ground is a good organic material for the soil.
Boy. That tractor boogies! Nice video. Glad you got that tractor to make this job faster and easier.
I am so proud of you Evan, you are such a good thinking framer. That field looks so good. No bad comments this morning, I like that. You and Rebecca have a good day and God bless.
Forget the naysayers. It's a learning process and there's no better place to learn than on YOUR OWN FARM. Great job!
Be safe
Peace
I’m looking forward to seeing this project unfold.
I love the smell of freshly turned ground!
No chemicals is always the best idea, even if you have to plow the field four times. Wow that little tractor did a fabulous job, at first I thought with only 50 or so horsepower it was going to have trouble. But it didn't even look like it missed a lick. Very impressive, that field should really yield you some fantastic hay. Great job Evan, thanks for sharing the video with us, Jimmy
I had the same question in mind so went to the TYM website - the 654 has 67 hp engine and 61 and fraction pto hp, which probably makes drawbar about 55-ish hp. The weight is about 5500 lbs. that’s plenty for a 12’ disk. We pulled a 12’ with a 40 Hp Allis-Chalmers WD-45 that was probably only 3500-4000 lbs. (We always said the WD-45’s horses were bigger than normal!) Anyway, that 654 is well within the power and traction needs for that disk.
Nothing wrong with green manuring here, that grass will break down and be really good for the soil .
Totally Agree with you bro.
A little hard work never hurt anyone.
Keep the chemicals off.
I would not even listen to anyone who says you should have sprayed that field first. You are right on track the way you are doing it, good job.
Evan. If that grass is quack grass by discing it you will just make ore plants. The roots chop up and keep growing
discing quack grass is like adding fertilizer to it.
@@douglasmacarthur8775 You understand. Nor sure if that is what is there though. At the end of the videotape plants appear to have fibrous roots
You can not kill quack grass by working the land
It is panicum, not quack grass.
@@CountryViewAcres Not sure what Panicum is
It is fall panicum or fall panic grass. It is a type of switch grass.
You need to get more of that headland cut down and ploughed to rid those weeds!👍🏴
Like the way you think Evan keep it like you want no chemicals.
You know what this is your farm personally I think you're doing a great job and you don't have to listen to anybody's comments if you don't want to you're one hard-working guy you and your wife both I love your pole barn little pricey but wonderful
Thx for sharing. Wait a week and plow it than again. Then you defenitly can seeding the grass ;-) . I would also cut some of thoose trees around it. Have a nice day and Greetings from Belgium
Great job showing and telling,and cutting up that field,I’ll have to do that to my field to get the same grass growing.well I’ll see ya next time see ya bye.
You can’t beat international Harvester equipment!
....lookin' good, nice job, stay safe and have a great week..
I like how you straddle the centerline, so you are double disking, we did that a lot on weight or disking alfalfa that have been plowed and was really tough on top
AWESOME VIDEO
You are doing a great job
The disc harrow may be old, but it worked well in the field. You do what you think is best for your farm and not worry about what others may say, it is your farm.
Here’s you a idea when you disc it again it’s going to be harder for the tractor to get traction so what we do when we pull our big disc we put the bucket on and scoop up some dirt for weight
one issue, dont give an inch. cut back as far as you can along the edge of the field to keep the tree line back as much as you can, it never stops . who works the field is up to you if willing to go after it.
Im with you on trying to keep chemical usage down on the homestead. Field looks good Evan.
A grazier here.... I would of mob grazed off what was there and then bale grazed in the winter. Two to three years you would have a nice hay field with limited fuel costs, no soil disturbance, better water retention, and a healthier ecosystem. I'm in northern Wisconsin and this works well for us. Take care.
I know im commenting a year late but how would you have planted seeds without plowing or softening up the land first.
Great video! Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for another great video, really enjoy them !
Great video, for what is worth I agree you shouldn’t have brush hog the field it could have clogged the disc. Something if you are worried about losing moisture. Is hold the disc up you are just wanting to chew up and keep the grass at bay! I would bet where you are going to see the most grass come back is the turn row, if you are not worried about erosion is rework the turn row before you leave the field next time. That is just some thoughts I have I am not trying to cause trouble. Have a good day!
Good morning from Grand Forks
On our dairy farm, we mostly had alfalfa [aka Lucerne some places] for hay and/or pasture. Grasses
like timothy or brome grass can produce a lot of hay, but cattle will not relish it, and it is lower in
protein. They will eat it if there's nothing else. Corn silage is one of the best feeds for cattle, and
young cattle as well as mature animals relish it. Well 41 acres today is a hobby farm, so I guess
it doesn't matter a lot whether you choose grass for hay over alfalfa and corn silage. Though grass
fed beef has been found to be far less tasteful and tender than beef finished on corn. Some
combination of alfalfa, corn silage, and ground corn also can finish a steer out nicely, or so has
been my experience as a youngster on the farm. A bit of forage rather than pure ground corn is
best, in my humble view, because cattle are ruminants that chew the cud, which is impossible on
a pure corn diet. We always started alfalfa, clover, and some timothy mix with a cover crop such
as wheat or oats. The legume and/or grass grows in under the cover crop, and when the wheat
or oats is combined off, then the forage crop comes in, into autumn, and the following year you
have your new forage crop. Fertilize in late autumn or early spring for best yield, but do not apply
in summer or dry spells. In winter, snow if heavy can wash away the fertilizer if erosion occurs.
Good job done Even. Pleased to see your not spraying .
Mowing it would have been a huge waste of diesel! In Europe, you couldn't have sprayed it anyway... 🤗 It'll be fine! 👍👍
Wrong, of course you could have been able to use RoundUp or a more plant type specific herbicide....
Changing disc blades is a major job
I would recommend you run each cycle you disk at a slight angle from the last, it will incorporate better and keep any ruts or ridged knocked down.
I think you did a great job everybody's going to have something different that they would do did you do it the exact same way I would have probably not but as long as the outcome is what you want at the end it doesn't really matter
Hi Evan, agree with you on the chemicals. I love to watch your videos as a city slicker, I am always learning something from you. Regards to Rebecca and the dogs & cats etc etc etc
I believe you made the right choice! Plus, if your farm, your choice!! Lol
Good morning! Your wait-disk cycle depends on rain, but if dry, wait a week and hit again. After that, take a look a week later because it might be ready to seed. If you’ll do your next disking on about a 15-degree angle to this one, it will cut better. If you can handle the turning, go entirely perpendicular to the prior pass; that would give you the best result. On a square field, you can start on one diagonal, doubling back on yourself, working out. At the end, turn 90 degrees to the next spot on the return pass. You’ll eventually double-disk the field and end up on the opposite diagonal to how you started. That’s not so easy on a long narrow field - probably easier to double disk as your did with the 50% overlap, but at a slight angle to straight. You won’t have as many pointy areas that way.
The old grass/corn stalk is what we call mulch. Good for the dirt, hopefully the new grass/weeds hasn't gone to seed to replant it'self. looks good.
I agree with you on the use of chemicals. If they can be avoided then they should be. I'm happy that the tractor is working out well
The field worked up great! Can’t wait to see you cutting and baling out there!
Outstanding! The fewer chemicals put into the environment the better! You seem to be enjoying the new tractor immensely. Nicely done!
great video keep them coming.
Looking great
That is probably my exact dream disc, currently I have an 8ft IH transport disc which is all I need bud I’d one day like to be doing enough tillage to justify what you have
You did great it looks awesome !!!
From what I can see it looks to have worked up very well.
Another great video.. keep-em coming
Good job 👍
It's always a pleasure watching you work your land and seeing you reusing your old equipment with your new tractor 🚜. I also like seeing you using your old tractor too. Your videos are always entertaining to watch.
I really enjoy Evan's videos
Evan if you plan on putting in alfalfa may I recommend round up ready variety. You are so close to trees 🌲 you will have saplings growing like mad. 28 to 32 oz per acre in 20 gallons of water 💧 will take care of them. You will have a stronger stand if planted 18 lbs acre by itself then following year over seed with orchard grass . I usually broadcast a frost seeding 5 lbs per acre it will aid in giving you time to eradicate the summer grasses that will infest your field . Just my 3 cents adjusted for inflation. The people suggesting no chemicals aren’t going to help pull the weeds out.
You can do what ever you want. Listen to people and do what you feel is best for your task. I think that is what I would do. You be just fine
Changing the disc blades on the front or rear gangs will only be difficult if they are rust seized at the arbor bolts or if you don’t have a large breaker bar. I’ve used a 3’ large pipe wrench to hold the gang still to the ground. You’ll do well. If the bearings can be pulled, I’d suggest you clean and repack at the same time or replace them. Grease makes the disc work optimally.
I had to use a 5 ft cheater on my Towner disc and it still was a war to get the nut off
Keep discing bro turn that green stuff into the soil its good stuff
I remember watching your videos after they sprayed it with Round Up. That's when I started watching. I felt so sorry for you. But you kept at it and finally got them to fix it. Good job with all you do.
Well done! 😊👍🏻
I was wondering why you weren't using the width of the disc to its fullest - until you explained your reason. In retrospect, I must say it was a stroke of genius. I respect a man who is capable of thinking for himself. 👍
when you replace the discs make sure you replace the hanger bearings.That way you take it apart once.It can be quite a job.I use ratchet straps when I reassemble to bring the assembly up slowly.have fun!!!
Amazing video Thanks for the information keep it up
Your biggest advantage was that ground has been worked before, it wasn't hard compact, you did an awesome job and actually probably the cheapest, even after spraying you would have still wanted to work it up before planting so you save the expense of the chemicals and the time of waiting for the chemicals to dissipate
Helpful for me, thanks
The field looks good. I'll bet it felt great being in the air conditioned cab...way to go for sure. I look forward to seeing this through to the end when the hay is harvested. Glad you did not use the chemicals. Have a Blessed day.
I wondered about that - nothing I liked more than an open tractor on a good day... not so much on a bad one :)
Looks a good job and totally agree with some comments regarding sprays but some people abuse them and some times you do need them
Use no more chemicals than necessary. What you did is better for the soil.
Take the hammer strap of off your hitch or change the hitch on your disk to work with the hammer strap
You did the right way
Looking good
It's better to dics the field and have no chemicals in the corn or what ever you are going to plant. What ever you put in the ground will transfer to your crop. If you can put notched disc they cut better. You can put them on your unit. Awesome decision .
Good job not using chemical
Would strongly suggest that you do a soil test with your local cooperative extension and incorporate the necessary amendments to the soil through your discing to get the best results from your efforts. Keep up the good work, look forward to the results. Have a grand day.
As an old farmer boy (erhm, 44 years old) I say that disc works perfectly fine, it even seem to work better then the newer one we had on our farm :)
Around here in where I live, we usually let it sit for about 2 weeks in the summer, then disc it again, it is probably warmer where you live than here, so I think 1-2 weeks will also work fine
Dont feel bad about the discs though, they seem to work just fine as they are, better worry about the bearings if they are good or not :)
Is that a 460 IH ??
I agree, no chemicals.
The TYM makes a big difference, stand firm on your convictions about the land.Great camera angles and footage. Keep moving forward! Regards to Rebecca have a great weekend
Hey at least you got to play on your tractor 🚜 😊
Looks good, don't let other people let you out guess yourself. That disc did a good job for the first time over. You were going to disc the field anyway and chemicals are expensive. There didn't look like there were very many broad leaves growing anyway and they would be a problem in your new hay field. Give it a couple of days for the sun to kill the grass disc it again and it will look good.