Lock Lab Locksmith Orpington kent it’s the way I’ve always done it, I reckon I have about a 95% success rate on 2/3 lever locks that I come across with these
Dyfrig james these are an absolute must purchase, the amount of 3 lever locks I come across is unreal! Had another one today that i opened in less than a minute, think key number 3 got it 👍🏻 same price whether it’s this or a 3G110 , end of the day it’s still non destructive entry into a mortice lock 👍🏻
I got some awhile ago when I started gathering a few of the basics, it’s definitely been a good investment. I had to recalibrate the fortress decoder today, think it was a lil off when I had it but as you suggested previously with the levers and making sure it’s under that particular 1 it’s now spot on 👍 hoping to order another decoder at the end of the week. Any suggestions for the next decoder buddy?
Dyfrig james yeah it’s a bit fiddly to calibrate , that’s why I always keep a Fortress in the van if I’m having difficulty 👍🏻 and I’d probably say the Union/Chubb/Yale decoder next , the Union 2134(E)s are everywhere, easy plastercine kit to use , in fact I’ll put a video up this week of it in action 👍🏻
Never seen the key upside down technique before. I've found these try out keys have opened five lever locks too.... whenever I got to a job I always tried the sets regardless of 3 or 5....chancing obviously but I found they managed to open five levers more than once....never ever got excited at the prospect of drilling out a mortise🙈 Excellent content buddy..
To be honest mate the upside down method is the way it shows you in the instructions, cause you are kind of over lifting and then tensioning at the same time if that makes sense
nice demo where you get that set from I have some but their like spaghetti limp as fook if I have to put real pressure on them they bend they looked like ss?
My 3 lever try outs will not fit inside the crap 3 lever locks by ERA etc they are too wide. Yours seem to be off centred if that makes sense ? The blades seem to be shorter on one side. Have you modded them to fit? And if so will they still work in Union 3 Lever locks?
Your right the price is the same, bit of a catch 22 sometimes when you open a lock in minutes Customers can be reluctant to hand over the cash, guess I should make it look harder than it is sometimes. I have loads of try out keys but prefer 2 in one picks
When a customer says anything similar to your comment. I tell them sometimes we get lucky and it opens quickly. There’s times where it’ll take 20 minutes to pick open. Just be glad you didn’t have to wait longer to get in
Hi there, I’ve managed to get an unlocked lock locked but can’t seem to get it unlocked? Any tips? Locked it with the basic one you used for the first lock. THANKS!
@@FortressLocksmiths yeah I have a 19 in my set but not seem to turn as easily as yours do. I’m a complete beginner and think I might be messing something up! Managed to get it locked by just trying over and over.
@@FortressLocksmiths I'm trying to create a key for an old unusual mortice. What's the best way to take an impression of the inside? Hold it in the open position and press Blue tac wrapped in cling film? Will that give me the right shape to copy? Filing a blank Is there anywhere I can get plastic 'rim lock' key? Maybe then I can file it easily if I have to do trial and error. I can almost see the shape the key grooves needs to be from looking at it while I hope it open. Is ''rim lock" key the correct name, basically I need a blank of the FB2 key but not sure if FB2 keys are rim lock keys or what the correct name is. Last question, do 3 lever locks have 4 sheets inside and 5 lever have 6 sheets? I'm trying to understand why they're named like that. I googled what lever are FB 2 locks, it said 3 lever but the key have 3 positive (raised) and 2 negative. So it's left me confused
3 leaver tryout keys look good, and according to the guy, do NOT cost a lot. But what about 5 leaver tryout keys ???? What is the cost of then ??? As I would LOVE to get a set of them. If anyone has a set, any chance of a copy set of them ???? As long as NOT costing way TOO hutch.
@@FortressLocksmiths You are 100% right, did NOT think of it that way. I know that in the land of the rising sun, or that part of the world, they knock out some things at stupidly low prices. But still NOT been able to fiend any 5 leaver tryout keys from that part of the world. Just a bit off topic, you use good old trusty WD40 oil. Have you ever tried “TRI FLOW oil” I know that it is expensive, but the results are FANTASTIC. If you have NOT come across this oil before, I would RECOMMEND that you look into it specs.
I wouldn’t say everything, first they would have to purchase the correct tools for the correct locks, then learn how to use them, and then learn how to ID specific locks through a keyhole , by which point they may as well become a locksmith
I know what your saying. I’m a locksmith myself and have been for 17years. I like your videos, very entertaining and I’ve learnt a few things ! Maybe you should monetise the videos with some kind of locksmith subscription 😏
@@oliversilver8879 I wouldn’t even know how to do that 😂 But yes I primarily make the videos as help for those that are new to the trade , and encourage them to go non destructive wherever possible and set them apart from these awful drill-smiths!
@@FortressLocksmiths nothing wrong a drill and oversized escutcheon if you know what your doing … sweet little 7mm perfectly positioned👌🏻 Nice to have all the options though I agree 😉
@@oliversilver8879 sometimes drilling is the only option, but I just want to help people get into the mindset of NDE, especially if they want to get into warrant work
BRILLIANT!!! Thank you so much for showing us this technique and tool set. Realy gratefu.
Never seen this technique of the key upside down before,gotta break mine out ND try it, good video 👍
Neil Thomas cheers pal, the reason it works so well is that you lift all the levers up and then feather the tension
Same here mate, definitely going to try it on a lock tomorrow..
Lock Lab Locksmith Orpington kent it’s the way I’ve always done it, I reckon I have about a 95% success rate on 2/3 lever locks that I come across with these
@@TheLockLab already have today! Didn't seem to make much difference for me,the keys that work still do ND the others still don't ???!
one of the best try out key videos ive seen thanks mate
Watch Master Waller thank you for the kind words mate, I seem to be coming across a lot of these 3 levers lately so I thought I’d put a video up 🔑👍🏻
As per usual my friend thank for taking the time to make these videos 👍 definitely filled with handy tips
Dyfrig james these are an absolute must purchase, the amount of 3 lever locks I come across is unreal! Had another one today that i opened in less than a minute, think key number 3 got it 👍🏻 same price whether it’s this or a 3G110 , end of the day it’s still non destructive entry into a mortice lock 👍🏻
I got some awhile ago when I started gathering a few of the basics, it’s definitely been a good investment. I had to recalibrate the fortress decoder today, think it was a lil off when I had it but as you suggested previously with the levers and making sure it’s under that particular 1 it’s now spot on 👍 hoping to order another decoder at the end of the week. Any suggestions for the next decoder buddy?
Dyfrig james yeah it’s a bit fiddly to calibrate , that’s why I always keep a Fortress in the van if I’m having difficulty 👍🏻 and I’d probably say the Union/Chubb/Yale decoder next , the Union 2134(E)s are everywhere, easy plastercine kit to use , in fact I’ll put a video up this week of it in action 👍🏻
That’s would be brilliant thank you so much, I think that one might be out of stock on Aldridge atm I think, I’ll have to have a check in abit now.
Yeah out of stock, so I’ve just sent an email now to find out when they might be back in stock
Never seen the key upside down technique before.
I've found these try out keys have opened five lever locks too.... whenever I got to a job I always tried the sets regardless of 3 or 5....chancing obviously but I found they managed to open five levers more than once....never ever got excited at the prospect of drilling out a mortise🙈
Excellent content buddy..
To be honest mate the upside down method is the way it shows you in the instructions, cause you are kind of over lifting and then tensioning at the same time if that makes sense
Awesome mate never knew could use them upside down I'll give that a try
It’s the best way mate trust me, let me know how you get on
@@FortressLocksmiths I will do mate thanks
Yep awesome way much easier and quicker had a go at five similar locks today fundamental the same results 👍🏿
nice demo where you get that set from I have some but their like spaghetti limp as fook if I have to put real pressure on them they bend they looked like ss?
Just Souber 3 lever try out set pal
Will they work on a double bitted safe?
A really good rag 😱😂👍🏻
Thank you for sharing your knowledge
My 3 lever try outs will not fit inside the crap 3 lever locks by ERA etc they are too wide. Yours seem to be off centred if that makes sense ? The blades seem to be shorter on one side. Have you modded them to fit? And if so will they still work in Union 3 Lever locks?
Try the 2 lever try out keys as bud, but for the sake of the price of a set buy 2 and grind one set down slightly …works a charm 🤝🏻
Your right the price is the same, bit of a catch 22 sometimes when you open a lock in minutes Customers can be reluctant to hand over the cash, guess I should make it look harder than it is sometimes. I have loads of try out keys but prefer 2 in one picks
brendan ford you’re completely correct, sometimes I do take longer than I should just so the customer feels they are ‘getting their money’s worth’ 😂
When a customer says anything similar to your comment. I tell them sometimes we get lucky and it opens quickly. There’s times where it’ll take 20 minutes to pick open. Just be glad you didn’t have to wait longer to get in
Also buy the 2 lever ones as they can work in the 3 lever locks
Yep I’ve got the 2 lever set as well pal
Hi there, I’ve managed to get an unlocked lock locked but can’t seem to get it unlocked? Any tips? Locked it with the basic one you used for the first lock.
THANKS!
Hi , it depends whether you’ve got the full set of try out keys 🔑
@@FortressLocksmiths yeah I have a 19 in my set but not seem to turn as easily as yours do.
I’m a complete beginner and think I might be messing something up! Managed to get it locked by just trying over and over.
@@olivialeask9735 first things first make sure it’s a 3 lever and not a 2 lever lock you have and remember not ALL locks will work with this technique
Привет , подскажи где можно купить такой набор???
So if I find the key that works, and then get a key cut in the same shape will it work?
Unfortunately no it will not as these aren’t exact keys
@@FortressLocksmiths
I'm trying to create a key for an old unusual mortice.
What's the best way to take an impression of the inside? Hold it in the open position and press Blue tac wrapped in cling film? Will that give me the right shape to copy?
Filing a blank
Is there anywhere I can get plastic 'rim lock' key? Maybe then I can file it easily if I have to do trial and error. I can almost see the shape the key grooves needs to be from looking at it while I hope it open.
Is ''rim lock" key the correct name, basically I need a blank of the FB2 key but not sure if FB2 keys are rim lock keys or what the correct name is.
Last question, do 3 lever locks have 4 sheets inside and 5 lever have 6 sheets?
I'm trying to understand why they're named like that. I googled what lever are FB 2 locks, it said 3 lever but the key have 3 positive (raised) and 2 negative.
So it's left me confused
Where are your try out keys from I have a set from Souber tools.
These are the souber ones mate
@@FortressLocksmiths Thanks.
Great mate thanks a lot 👍key No1 upside down it is 🏆
Great stuff - now it seems stupid to put them in like a key and rotate. Thanks.
Cheers pal, watched your video yesterday about the rogue locksmiths, the commentary was f*cking hilarious 😂 🤝🏻
@@FortressLocksmiths Oh wow - nice. I wished for more rogue locksmiths to be honest, but it went in an interesting direction I think. Thanks.
Where do i go to get this key
After 15 years you learn something new I'll try putting them upside down from now on I have 95 % success rate already
Good to hear pal, this method never lets me down
M8 I know it's old video just started to get into lock picking etc will these do for 2 lever aswell new subscriber like u videos m8
No mate you’ll need 2 lever ones these are a bit too wide
@@FortressLocksmiths that's why I'm struggling haha cheers m8
Shitty three lever locks lol. You crack me up
Где купить такие?
How can you tell a two/three lever lock to a 5 lever just by looking at the keyway?
3 leaver tryout keys look good, and according to the guy, do NOT cost a lot.
But what about 5 leaver tryout keys ????
What is the cost of then ???
As I would LOVE to get a set of them.
If anyone has a set, any chance of a copy set of them ????
As long as NOT costing way TOO hutch.
5 lever sets are about £180 but they are only good on certain locks like the old ERA Invincible
@@FortressLocksmiths thanks for getting back to me so QUICK.
Do you think the price is high just to keep numpties from getting them ???
@@jonc4271 the price is high cause there is 78 try out keys in total so it only works out at about £2.50 a key which ain’t so bad
@@FortressLocksmiths You are 100% right, did NOT think of it that way.
I know that in the land of the rising sun, or that part of the world, they knock out some things at stupidly low prices. But still NOT been able to fiend any 5 leaver tryout keys from that part of the world.
Just a bit off topic, you use good old trusty WD40 oil.
Have you ever tried “TRI FLOW oil” I know that it is expensive, but the results are FANTASTIC.
If you have NOT come across this oil before, I would RECOMMEND that you look into it specs.
Is it safe to be showing the entire world how to open everything?
I wouldn’t say everything, first they would have to purchase the correct tools for the correct locks, then learn how to use them, and then learn how to ID specific locks through a keyhole , by which point they may as well become a locksmith
I know what your saying. I’m a locksmith myself and have been for 17years. I like your videos, very entertaining and I’ve learnt a few things !
Maybe you should monetise the videos with some kind of locksmith subscription 😏
@@oliversilver8879 I wouldn’t even know how to do that 😂 But yes I primarily make the videos as help for those that are new to the trade , and encourage them to go non destructive wherever possible and set them apart from these awful drill-smiths!
@@FortressLocksmiths nothing wrong a drill and oversized escutcheon if you know what your doing … sweet little 7mm perfectly positioned👌🏻
Nice to have all the options though I agree 😉
@@oliversilver8879 sometimes drilling is the only option, but I just want to help people get into the mindset of NDE, especially if they want to get into warrant work
Do try out keys work on a rim deadlock
Depends which one pal but generally yeah they’ll work on most non curtained locks
@@FortressLocksmiths thankyou