Track Battle!: 2ZZ MR-S VS 2GR V6 MR2

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  • @attacklifeuk
    @attacklifeuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    "2zz lacks power here" anti k20 swap crew breathing intensifies

    • @cxbra
      @cxbra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      K24 swap would be insane! Make the same hp (when tuned) as the 2GR mr2, but with 150-200lb less weight.

    • @jackparker6425
      @jackparker6425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@cxbra fun fact, not true. K24 is pretty much the same weight. And NA power stock for stock is in the GR's favor

    • @lomfmur
      @lomfmur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cxbra K24’s aren’t much lighter than the 2GR lol

    • @dylan4972
      @dylan4972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @グルグ that's why I decided to go for the 2GR on my SW20, but ended up turboing it as well.

    • @freshtapcoke
      @freshtapcoke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just performed 2ZZ swap crew 😭

  • @BryanHeitkotter
    @BryanHeitkotter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That 2GR rips! Never heard one sound so good and rev so high. Love your 2ZZ too, best sounding example on the intertubes.

    • @S5MIKEY
      @S5MIKEY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      every 2gr sounds like that when it has short exhaust travel, also this one is cammed that's why it revs higher

  • @JesseSpec
    @JesseSpec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Awesome video dude! Good driving and keep pushing! That 2GR sounds soooo mean :-)

  • @tweakgames
    @tweakgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Nice, I am building a 2GR MRS right now, I am located in Seattle area too. Hope to see you on the track someday soon! :D

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice I'd like to check it out sometime

    • @jackparker6425
      @jackparker6425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get on the Frankenstein Motorworks Discord

    • @tweakgames
      @tweakgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jackparker6425 lol I think I got banned from there. It's fine, felt like a giant child daycare. Watching Marc answer all the kids noob questions over and over and over for free. I recommended Marc charge for his consulting work and was quickly banned after. :) They called me evil. LOL

    • @aristoyotacorner
      @aristoyotacorner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tweakgames nah it was because you fucking doxxed someone not because you told Marc to charge for consulting.

    • @aristoyotacorner
      @aristoyotacorner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Correlation does not equal causation.

  • @j.chenmuas
    @j.chenmuas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What a blast to watch you and apex at the track together!! 🔥💯

  • @RandomGuyWithaMazda
    @RandomGuyWithaMazda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the no-lift shift @4:18 is butter 🤌

    • @RandomGuyWithaMazda
      @RandomGuyWithaMazda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rewatched again, shitbox intercooler AND nolift-- you love to see it

    • @Domi39
      @Domi39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But he lifted?...

  • @Wargeneralguy
    @Wargeneralguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a mr2 2zz build too, just baught stage 3 cams and valves and springs etc.. but Holy shit does that 2gr sound good

  • @cxbra
    @cxbra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This might be the best mr2 related video on the internet!

  • @nickkings2220
    @nickkings2220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The 86 speed chime lmao 🤣🤣

  • @stopspin
    @stopspin 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Toyota jdm import engine known as the toyota 2.0L 3sge Beams engine, with variable valve timing and lift, might be another option.

  • @aftastosk6016
    @aftastosk6016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 2GR is sounds like a baby V12...awesome!

  • @gmadgengarage
    @gmadgengarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great run dude! I think you hit that PB because you were dialed in trying to catch a faster car.

  • @8bit_bryan
    @8bit_bryan ปีที่แล้ว

    catch-a-driiiiift!! 11:01 🙀
    awesome driving from both POVs!

  • @MrLuke655
    @MrLuke655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are always proper sick! I love the nostalgic elements (The Fast and the Furious in this one and Gran Turismo music in others). Keep it up!

  • @bullfrogzbodyshop
    @bullfrogzbodyshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome man,livin the dream good for you buddy

  • @supermantom2456
    @supermantom2456 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:46 absolute fire driving

  • @alexknightwrc
    @alexknightwrc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a 2ZZ MR2. Does it need more power? Probably. Do I want more power? No.
    It’s kind of between a B16A and a B18C. It’s a great engine, super reliable, and sounds fantastic.

    • @Haddedam
      @Haddedam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got cammed 1zz and I'm fine with the power I'm at. I'm only half a sec behind my friends 2zz's track only MRS with my daily and that's just behind finding balls and fixing my camber and corner balance, which he has done.
      "1zz bad" is a meme where I'm sitting.

    • @lmenzol
      @lmenzol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Haddedam what cams are you running?

    • @Haddedam
      @Haddedam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lmenzol Crower stage one, and I've recently beaten my 2zz friend times by a lot back when he was on same tyres as me on some tracks

    • @lmenzol
      @lmenzol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Haddedam cool I was looking at stage 2. I would go 2zz if it wasn’t for the oil pump issues and the fact that you can’t really build the bottom end

    • @Haddedam
      @Haddedam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmenzol Teddy yuen reccomends skipping stage 2 altogether and going stage 3 and a tune. He reguarly builds and dynos 1zz's that make 180hp, all he does is just intake, ecu, stage 3 cams and a dyno tune. I'm thinking of switching to stage 3 as well next year.

  • @Shift-happens-tv
    @Shift-happens-tv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    should try out a 2ar spyder if you ever get the chance! I'm gonna be turboing my 2ar over the winter if there are no financial hiccups the rest of the year. as of my knowledge should be the first 2ar turbo swapped spyder

  • @chrisjarvis955
    @chrisjarvis955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the videos man keep them up for us.

  • @styledliving
    @styledliving 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:16, engine starting to get hot?
    Also, is the AC compressor installed? w/ the Front Defroster on, the default is to engage the AC clutch.

  • @xaakixan
    @xaakixan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Laptimer app? 2GR sounds awesome!!

  • @noekiyu
    @noekiyu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that sound of the 2zz

  • @stevenS1973
    @stevenS1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like what you have done to your Midship.2zz sounds great !!!

  • @erwinlevasier
    @erwinlevasier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there, what seat are you using, and how did you mount it?
    There is no movement in the corners, and most (bottom mounted)seats go from left to right.
    Awesome video 😍😍

  • @meleenterprises
    @meleenterprises 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep it up dude!

  • @gpajic1987
    @gpajic1987 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does the geometry kit make a noticeable difference on the sw?

  • @yojoshman8663
    @yojoshman8663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome vid! I want an mr2 spyder now lol

  • @maxwell5428
    @maxwell5428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:16 heat on max for all the horsepowers

  • @kobet7341
    @kobet7341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need to take my Integra to the ridge at some point

  • @zokusharuuku1091
    @zokusharuuku1091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eh sometimes braking a little early is good so you can be smooth and come on power sooner making you come out of the turn faster. A professional told me awd cars have to do this and I’d bet it helps mid engine cars as well.

  • @Kootthedog
    @Kootthedog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    snap over steer is fake news !! LOL great video

  • @georgmoro5594
    @georgmoro5594 ปีที่แล้ว

    😎 Super geil danke 👍

  • @ryshask
    @ryshask 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the v6 in the sw20... sounds better than any of the current 500k to 1 million dollar cars out there... there's no comparison.

  • @NUAgeMotoring
    @NUAgeMotoring 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was nice meeting you that day! I have to remember to add a 30mm socket to the tool bin lol

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol. Nice to meet you too. See u at the next one

  • @asyrigos
    @asyrigos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pedal cam is great! Thx for adding it. What is the best wheel/tire size in your opinion? 15s with 205 front 225 rear?

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      225 245

    • @asyrigos
      @asyrigos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow that’s a lot of rubber. Does it fit in the stock fenders? What offset are you running?

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      15x9+35

    • @asyrigos
      @asyrigos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And does not rub front and rear?

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. I've ran 255 in my other videos with no rub.

  • @nickfarcy5124
    @nickfarcy5124 ปีที่แล้ว

    What lap-timing app/software are you using?

  • @Who_will_be_SENDO
    @Who_will_be_SENDO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you think about increasing the rear wheel only to increase the MR-S corner limit close to RR?

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like tire size? I have a set of 225/245 15sand another set of 225/255 17s. I was just burning off old tires

    • @Who_will_be_SENDO
      @Who_will_be_SENDO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TougeTime you're rear tire is already bigger. im square setting, but the back flowed so well that I was going to grow a rear tire.
      My setting is 205/45/16 Square setting.

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ya I like mine to understeer so I can throw the car in and let it wash out

    • @Who_will_be_SENDO
      @Who_will_be_SENDO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TougeTime i like oversteer.but the limit of the square setting is too low

  • @SgtSuissie
    @SgtSuissie ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you mount foot cam

  • @andrewnaylor9507
    @andrewnaylor9507 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mk2 mrs 2gr swap is my dream car rn fs

  • @hanaburton
    @hanaburton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Feeeeeeeet yes

  • @zokusharuuku1091
    @zokusharuuku1091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dang if only it was a 1zz turbo or 2zz turbo it would have more power than the 2gr and you’d put the power down faster coming out of corners. That sw20 never would’ve passed.

    • @Ottobon_extra
      @Ottobon_extra ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this is peak NFS underground tier comment

  • @trod-s2k
    @trod-s2k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time to swap in another driver :o
    Waiting for Touge trackday at Thunderhill...

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I'd like to join the rest of 4x4 🐸 gang

  • @culgate
    @culgate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TC2 checking in, mfw no Fukada post

  • @ItsPainnz
    @ItsPainnz ปีที่แล้ว

    mike colon???

  • @RavenGTR79
    @RavenGTR79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the name of the race course?

    • @Dliverance
      @Dliverance 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ridge Motorsports Park

    • @RavenGTR79
      @RavenGTR79 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Dliverance thank you 🤜🏿🤛🏿

  • @halililkman4477
    @halililkman4477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great car and great driving maybe k24 swap is better for that car :)

  • @titocomrade
    @titocomrade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what short throw shifter do you have in your mrs?

  • @tonyso5525
    @tonyso5525 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What track is this? Looks fun

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ridge motorsports park

  • @BlueJDMMR2
    @BlueJDMMR2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just utilize the oem gen 3 3sgte :/

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What application are you using for the lap times?

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Harry's laptimer

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TougeTime awesome, thanks for the info. I've been using RaceChrono but the UI on this one looks cool.

  • @ABeans07
    @ABeans07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Up for Ja rule/Monica

  • @kaziofr
    @kaziofr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rotrex will be your friend...

  • @reshinguneko2355
    @reshinguneko2355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I WAS THERE 😳

  • @deadboy4016
    @deadboy4016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tog Chat 2 Was Here

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doubt

    • @deadboy4016
      @deadboy4016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TougeTime Fukada 2FA

  • @ecooley257
    @ecooley257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Snap oversteer is fake news! I get sick of seeing that as a con to driving an SW30. Seems like whoever writes those articles has never driven one.

  • @Ryukiii_
    @Ryukiii_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    calm down passanger! calm down! everything ok?
    1:30

  • @maybelive765
    @maybelive765 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuckin Sick eh

  • @TC_OFF
    @TC_OFF 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Incomplete interior” lol

  • @dimgru3948
    @dimgru3948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2zz :D 2gr is ok

  • @michaelscholten9753
    @michaelscholten9753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time to swap in a 2ar

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I use Frankenstein kit I'm just going to wait for his 2gr lol

    • @michaelscholten9753
      @michaelscholten9753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TougeTime I think 300 whp in a Spyder would be a lot. 250 with cams in a 2ar is probably more than tires can handle anyway.

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelscholten9753 I'm getting gt300 eventually ! Hah

  • @efl5775
    @efl5775 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2zz need supercharger

  • @Truulovemotorsports
    @Truulovemotorsports 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice. needs k ok

  • @el_croc311
    @el_croc311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    FROG

  • @amazingkoolspydadwm6219
    @amazingkoolspydadwm6219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i disliked the 11.08 feeling 😖😖 but otherwise 2gr rocks on track

  • @miaxix888
    @miaxix888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2gr = Telephatic

  • @zero_to_1000
    @zero_to_1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    boost.....

  • @justintowers8230
    @justintowers8230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ya too bad toyota went downhill after 2000. went from a 2 litre 3SGE in altezza to a 1.8 liter no torque 2zz.

    • @lomfmur
      @lomfmur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 2ZZ is in many ways superior to the 3S, my biggest gripe with it is that it’s not a 2.0 but I understand why it isnt.

    • @justintowers8230
      @justintowers8230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lomfmur ya toyota had no funds to make a proper alloy 3sge 6th gen motor. Much less a new 2 liter 2zz. the only reason i believe they went with a 2nd cam profile engine (like vtec) was for emissions. Besides all 2zz, from the corolla 170hp to the TRD Sports M 200hp engine fall out of their power band when shifting at peak power. The TRD sports M should of got a 4.7 final drive, which is why it wasnt popular like the ITR DC2

    • @lomfmur
      @lomfmur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justintowers8230 gotta remember the 2ZZ is also 1ZZ which is also a 1.8 and they wanted to keep very similar exterior dimensions and the same bore spacing. So without a longer stroke (which they didn’t want to/probably couldnt do) they couldn’t have made it a 2.0, it’d just be too costly and possibly unreliable. Emissions was definitely a part of the reason for VVTL-i but it was also their reluctance for turbo’s and wanting to make more power in their small cars like the Celica and Corolla without using a larger engine. Kind of a compromise of a million things as is common these days, all around though they really did a respectable job all things considered.

    • @justintowers8230
      @justintowers8230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lomfmur hmm well it seems when you shift @ 8k you can keep the revs in the rpm band (in the lift zone) its a damn good motor. In the trd sports M debut. It seems the driver didnt take it to 8k, thus loosing to the Integra

    • @justintowers8230
      @justintowers8230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @グルグ i dont understand why toyota didnt give the mrs the 2zz. Did they make a contract with lotus in 99 stating not to sell the mr2 with 2zz? Was the president of toyota against 2zz in mrs?

  • @alwintheskateboarder
    @alwintheskateboarder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What'd you use to mount the pedal cam?

    • @TougeTime
      @TougeTime  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tape

    • @Weimerica8841
      @Weimerica8841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TougeTime no homo but I love you man

  • @einarmonroy1612
    @einarmonroy1612 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What camera you using for feet cam ?