When Miles O'Brien became Chief Engineer at DS9, it seems to me he was put in charge of two kinds of systems, and two kinds only. Those were the ones that were broken and those which would break at any second.
As he told Worf in one episode, forgetting exactly so paraphrased; "I was bored stiff in that transporter room, waiting for something to break. This station needs me, all the time." So he did at least enjoy the challenge that DS9 presented.
Don't forget how O'Brien seemed to be the only one who could keep the station running smoothly even with technology that is seemingly incompatable (That being Federation and Cardassian Tech)
The thing is, those aren't, strictly speaking, Federation replicators. They're Cardassian replicators that have been jury-rigged to work with Federation technology. That's why they're breaking down all the time, and why O'Brien is the only one able to get them working:No one else on the station has any experience with getting these two technologies to work together.
@@thehantavirus He left to teach at Starfleet Academy, and Rom became Grand Nagus. Something tells me the following year or so must've been tough for whoever replaced O'Brien.
@@captainsternn7684 It probably says something about how smart Pakleds actually are that they're able to make ships work despite so many foreign technologies being present.
Well at least the replicators only make things taste bad, rather than trying to kill the crew the way the holodecks do, or screwing them around like the transporters.
It's funny how everytime broken replicator makes food, it always make it taste bad, instead of mixing in some highly toxic component that does not change taste in any way. Or making tea with HCL instead of H2O.
Marian Paździoch, Haha true. Maybe it's a safety feature. I would imagine the developers of replicators had to face a lot of criticism and distrust before people trusted their health to a machine.
Except there are so many more ways it could go wrong without overriding the safeties. Stuff like putting the liquid outside the cup f.e. And if it goes wrong, why doesn't it just stop working altogether?
Well there is the ep(clips in the beginning are from) where there was a Bajoran device that was triggered unknowingly by O'Brien when he repaired one where it replicated a virus into the food.
Pay attention to Worf in the clip with Gerodi at the end. He tries it, notices it tastes different and then starts scarfing it down. Worf loves inedible tasting food. A wonderful callback to when Riker made that terrible breakfast for the senior officers in TNG.
That station needed more engineers than security personnel. It's amazing the Cardassians didn't get caught in a core breach the first time the damn thing fired a torpedo at them.
I don't know, I wouldn't mind SG-1's replicators if they made a few smokin hot human form ones that were programed to please me and almost screw me to death then take care of me until I return to full health to do it again.
Geordi: 'We'll have to talk to Chief O'brien about these replicators.' Worf, in the middle of shoveling food he got from the replicator: 'Why? This is delicious. They're working to perfection. *glances at Geordi's discarded meal* ...are you going to finish that?'
How does Quark run a business using replicators that can be found all over the station? Why would anyone buy something replicated when you can have it in your own room for free?
He actually imports a lot of the ingredients and such that he uses for mixing drinks. In The Magnificent Ferengi, he talks about his wry negotiating skills in securing some exclusive syrup from what was supposedly a very limited supply, and there's quite a few episodes where its mentioned he's importing illicit goods in addition to his usual stuff. That and the bar itself offers more than just beverages, in that it becomes a place for social activity, like the replimat did for Bashir and Garak.
Because outside of the Federation, replicator patterns are not freely available and must be purchased. Since the Federation doesn't have authority over the station, they are simply invited Administrators, the Station operates outside the Federation economy, thus no access to the Federation replicator pattern database other than for the Federation staff, not to mention Federation patterns probably wouldn't work on Cardassian replicators as standard.
Synthmilk Completely made up theory. That's fine, it's not a terrible idea, but not established anywhere. I'd argue that outside the Federation it's less likely they could enforce something like copyright on data.
For the same reason we go to restaurants in real life, I imagine. It's cheaper and more comfortable to just eat in your own home, even if you have to cook it yourself, but people still go to expensive restaurants all the time for the experience of a publicly shared meal. DS9 even has the "RepliMat" which is a public seating area where people just get food from the replicator to eat in public, like the Star Trek equivalent of a fast food joint, so people obviously pay for the specifics at Quark's - the atmosphere, the people, the noise, the non-replicated luxury food, etc. Also remember that the Federation is largely moneyless, and most other civilizations that have replicators likely have very little actual currency in circulation because they are by definition post-scarcity societies, so money is simply not that important to the people of the Star Trek future. If you don't have to pay an electric bill every month, can always get food, water and clothes free of charge in any style you want, why not spend the little money you have on something superfluous? It's not like you benefit from a large savings account unless you're a Ferengi.
Can you imagine if someone in Star Trek was a hoarder, and didn't put the used plates and cups back in the replicator... they would have a whole room full of plates and cups....
you can replicate the parts and make one, but you can't just replicate the entire thing since they need to be specific of where they are going to be installed, there isn't just "plug replicator in here" spot on random walls.
O'Brien was Chief Engineer... After the first couple of times, why didn't he just create a "Replicator Repair Personnel" position on his staff and have them checking all the station's replicators on a daily basis, and going out to fix any faults that come up. Delegate! We're talking about the station's food source. It's kind of important!
It's damn-near surprising that the moment O'Brien announced he was leaving, that everyone else didn't drop to their knees and cry "NOOOOOOO! What will DS9 do without O'Brien!?"
@@GoranXIIDS9's power grid is incompatible with federation Technology. I don't remember the specifics but imagine trying to run alternating current "AC" through an electronic device that required direct current "DC". Each federation replicator would need it's own independent power source.
it never really made any sense that Starfleet wouldn't simply overhaul and replace much of the Cardassian tech on DS9 with federation tech; particularly after the discovery of the wormhole.
If he's an Operations Chief, why's he in charge of maintenance? In a naval sense operations -operates-. So they'd run the day to day operations of the space station, whatever those are. Engineering should be doing maintenance. So O'Brien should be some kind of engineering Chief, like he was on the Enterprise. Furthermore, he's a Chief, he shouldn't be doing maintenance, but supervising and training other people to do it.
I'm trying to find a specific DS9 moment think it came from the ending of the episode in the first clip used I'm trying to find sisko taking a sip of a replicated drink, having a negative reaction to it then yelling " O'Brien! " can anyone help me find it?
When Chief O'brien was handed over to DS9 I always used to think (in universe, not real life) that he must have done something really bad on the Enterprise to be given such a raw deal. He's forced to slave a broken, overly complicated and notoriously bad Cardassian system with the Federation system that's almost perfect to a point and so refined and perfected that it will seldom be contracted to work with any other technology and if it could, the Federstion system would just fault code like.every 5 mins because the Cardassian system is doing something poorly, dangerous or is littered with bad code, bad software and viruses that the Cardassians left behind out of paranoid spite. Further to this, The Chief centred episodes are all about him suffering horribly. Either physically, mentally or emotionally. Why did the writers want to make the Cheif suffer so much? 🤣
Quark has access to specialized culinary copyrighted food and beverage material from the best chefs in the quadrant. The molecular patterns of this fine cuisine are programs that run off a digital rights management system. Think of how digital copyright copies are handled today and it's the same idea. There are license fees he has to pay to offer this and it's passed down to the customers when they order something. Regular replicators don't have this. Think of it like having a commercial grade kitchen, most people don't have that in their homes because it is too expensive.
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Poor O'Brien, everyone takes him for granted. He's like the duct tape that holds DS9 together.
He IS the duct tape
When Miles O'Brien became Chief Engineer at DS9, it seems to me he was put in charge of two kinds of systems, and two kinds only. Those were the ones that were broken and those which would break at any second.
Such is the life of a Chief of Operations
There were ones that weren't installed yet but had to be :P
As he told Worf in one episode, forgetting exactly so paraphrased; "I was bored stiff in that transporter room, waiting for something to break. This station needs me, all the time." So he did at least enjoy the challenge that DS9 presented.
Don't forget how O'Brien seemed to be the only one who could keep the station running smoothly even with technology that is seemingly incompatable (That being Federation and Cardassian Tech)
@@Jokie155 "On the Enteprise everything just worked all the time. Except for the Holodecks."
The thing is, those aren't, strictly speaking, Federation replicators. They're Cardassian replicators that have been jury-rigged to work with Federation technology. That's why they're breaking down all the time, and why O'Brien is the only one able to get them working:No one else on the station has any experience with getting these two technologies to work together.
except Rom
o'brien is smart, he is the only one intergrating both cardassian federation so hes irreplacable.
@@thehantavirus He left to teach at Starfleet Academy, and Rom became Grand Nagus. Something tells me the following year or so must've been tough for whoever replaced O'Brien.
If that's the case, It's a wonder that Pakled ships even run at all.
@@captainsternn7684 It probably says something about how smart Pakleds actually are that they're able to make ships work despite so many foreign technologies being present.
Miles O'Brien = Replicators, Geordi LaForge = Coolant leaks
Well at least the replicators only make things taste bad, rather than trying to kill the crew the way the holodecks do, or screwing them around like the transporters.
Wrong, there was a episode where the replicators replicated weapons that attacked everyone.
It's funny how everytime broken replicator makes food, it always make it taste bad, instead of mixing in some highly toxic component that does not change taste in any way. Or making tea with HCL instead of H2O.
Marian Paździoch, Haha true. Maybe it's a safety feature. I would imagine the developers of replicators had to face a lot of criticism and distrust before people trusted their health to a machine.
Except there are so many more ways it could go wrong without overriding the safeties. Stuff like putting the liquid outside the cup f.e. And if it goes wrong, why doesn't it just stop working altogether?
Well there is the ep(clips in the beginning are from) where there was a Bajoran device that was triggered unknowingly by O'Brien when he repaired one where it replicated a virus into the food.
Pay attention to Worf in the clip with Gerodi at the end. He tries it, notices it tastes different and then starts scarfing it down. Worf loves inedible tasting food. A wonderful callback to when Riker made that terrible breakfast for the senior officers in TNG.
no wonder he became a regular at quarks when he was reassigned to ds9
Wait so is prune juice inedible?
@@alexmo1941 It is a warrior's drink. Take that as you wish.
That station needed more engineers than security personnel. It's amazing the Cardassians didn't get caught in a core breach the first time the damn thing fired a torpedo at them.
To be fair it sounds like most of the problems were becuase the Cardassians wrecked the place on the way out.
@@Hartzilla2007 Then the Federation came in trying to integrate their tech into the systems the Cardassian's wrecked.
SG1 and DS9 are two TV series that talk about wormholes and Replicators.
Except SG Replicators are literally Borg Spiders.
I'd rather their replicators than SG1's
I agree.
Underrated comment
I don't know, I wouldn't mind SG-1's replicators if they made a few smokin hot human form ones that were programed to please me and almost screw me to death then take care of me until I return to full health to do it again.
@@jafleming0409 Not the best idea since the only time a replicator was created to be a lover she killed her creator the first chance she could.
@@joshuakirkpatrick957 I wouldn't be the creator and to give it limited AI to function only within a given set of perimeters.
Makes you feel bad for O'Brien. Ice skating uphill
Geordi: 'We'll have to talk to Chief O'brien about these replicators.'
Worf, in the middle of shoveling food he got from the replicator: 'Why? This is delicious. They're working to perfection. *glances at Geordi's discarded meal* ...are you going to finish that?'
How does Quark run a business using replicators that can be found all over the station? Why would anyone buy something replicated when you can have it in your own room for free?
He actually imports a lot of the ingredients and such that he uses for mixing drinks. In The Magnificent Ferengi, he talks about his wry negotiating skills in securing some exclusive syrup from what was supposedly a very limited supply, and there's quite a few episodes where its mentioned he's importing illicit goods in addition to his usual stuff. That and the bar itself offers more than just beverages, in that it becomes a place for social activity, like the replimat did for Bashir and Garak.
Because outside of the Federation, replicator patterns are not freely available and must be purchased. Since the Federation doesn't have authority over the station, they are simply invited Administrators, the Station operates outside the Federation economy, thus no access to the Federation replicator pattern database other than for the Federation staff, not to mention Federation patterns probably wouldn't work on Cardassian replicators as standard.
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Synthmilk Completely made up theory. That's fine, it's not a terrible idea, but not established anywhere. I'd argue that outside the Federation it's less likely they could enforce something like copyright on data.
For the same reason we go to restaurants in real life, I imagine. It's cheaper and more comfortable to just eat in your own home, even if you have to cook it yourself, but people still go to expensive restaurants all the time for the experience of a publicly shared meal. DS9 even has the "RepliMat" which is a public seating area where people just get food from the replicator to eat in public, like the Star Trek equivalent of a fast food joint, so people obviously pay for the specifics at Quark's - the atmosphere, the people, the noise, the non-replicated luxury food, etc.
Also remember that the Federation is largely moneyless, and most other civilizations that have replicators likely have very little actual currency in circulation because they are by definition post-scarcity societies, so money is simply not that important to the people of the Star Trek future. If you don't have to pay an electric bill every month, can always get food, water and clothes free of charge in any style you want, why not spend the little money you have on something superfluous? It's not like you benefit from a large savings account unless you're a Ferengi.
This is how Rom got promoted. His most useful experience was "knowing how to repair replicators"
Can you imagine if someone in Star Trek was a hoarder, and didn't put the used plates and cups back in the replicator... they would have a whole room full of plates and cups....
"... and... we're out of coffee..."
Further evidence that Janeway could not run DS9.
"Joey, do you like movies about Klingons?"
Poor Miles. Trying keep those things working.
The only thing on that station that broke was the replicators and no one but O'brian could fix them apparently.
cant they just replicate a Replicator?
not with a broken replicator you can't
lol
No, actually. I forgot why but there was a specific reason you couldn't do that.
you can replicate the parts and make one, but you can't just replicate the entire thing since they need to be specific of where they are going to be installed, there isn't just "plug replicator in here" spot on random walls.
Settle down there, Rom.
weren't you watching? engineers never get too settle down or a break. >.>
O'Brien was Chief Engineer... After the first couple of times, why didn't he just create a "Replicator Repair Personnel" position on his staff and have them checking all the station's replicators on a daily basis, and going out to fix any faults that come up.
Delegate! We're talking about the station's food source. It's kind of important!
-Honestly? Knowing Chief O, he probably quite enjoyed working on a station that was falling apart at the seams.
@@nonya1366 Very true. He did enjoy getting his hands dirty in that regard.
That's what separates NCOs from COs.
whenever teachers remind me of assigned homework, my mood at 0:10
What episode is this?
Ds9 must have nearly broken down after the chief went back to Earth
It's damn-near surprising that the moment O'Brien announced he was leaving, that everyone else didn't drop to their knees and cry "NOOOOOOO! What will DS9 do without O'Brien!?"
Did Rom get the bar's replicator to work using a spatula as part of the emitters?
0:21 Sisko:...the fuck's his problem?
I had a thought - aside from the material and energy used to `create' the food, is the process rushed?
They could make mines with self replication, yet they couldn't fit a few federation replicators on DS9?
Yeah :D
they said a few times that federation and cardassian technology doesn't fit very well together.
Which doesn't explain why they couldn't just wire up a federation replicator with an industrial hopper for whatever it is that replicators use.
And to be fair this was the fifth episode or thereabouts
@@GoranXIIDS9's power grid is incompatible with federation Technology. I don't remember the specifics but imagine trying to run alternating current "AC" through an electronic device that required direct current "DC". Each federation replicator would need it's own independent power source.
it never really made any sense that Starfleet wouldn't simply overhaul and replace much of the Cardassian tech on DS9 with federation tech; particularly after the discovery of the wormhole.
If he's an Operations Chief, why's he in charge of maintenance?
In a naval sense operations -operates-. So they'd run the day to day operations of the space station, whatever those are. Engineering should be doing maintenance. So O'Brien should be some kind of engineering Chief, like he was on the Enterprise.
Furthermore, he's a Chief, he shouldn't be doing maintenance, but supervising and training other people to do it.
wait, which episode is that clip with geordi from?
ST:TNG S6:E16 The Birthright, Part 1
I'm trying to find a specific DS9 moment
think it came from the ending of the episode in the first clip used
I'm trying to find sisko taking a sip of a replicated drink, having a negative reaction to it then yelling " O'Brien! "
can anyone help me find it?
I always thought Sisko’s coffee was too hot but apparently it didn’t taste good?
With a replicator, I can request coffee for breakfast. B-)
Is it not possible to call in for some extra replicator engineers from the Federation? No? All busy? Alright, just asking.
We have them but there not bring release yet
when in the hell was Geordi on DS9?
He was not on the show deep space nine, they went to ds9 in Birthright, Part I on TNG.
Thank you that answered my question too
Well he was a transporter expert, replicators are just transporters that alter the pattern to suit the request.
When was Geordi ever in DS9?
when the Enterprice visited.
@@MusikCassette I think it's a TNG episode, Birthright.
When Chief O'brien was handed over to DS9 I always used to think (in universe, not real life) that he must have done something really bad on the Enterprise to be given such a raw deal.
He's forced to slave a broken, overly complicated and notoriously bad Cardassian system with the Federation system that's almost perfect to a point and so refined and perfected that it will seldom be contracted to work with any other technology and if it could, the Federstion system would just fault code like.every 5 mins because the Cardassian system is doing something poorly, dangerous or is littered with bad code, bad software and viruses that the Cardassians left behind out of paranoid spite.
Further to this, The Chief centred episodes are all about him suffering horribly. Either physically, mentally or emotionally.
Why did the writers want to make the Cheif suffer so much?
🤣
Klingons seem to enjoy it
you should have finished of with that time, the replicators become death mashines.
lol worf
Thank God for real food!
GTFO Georgi! You're an engineer, fix em yourself!
Why don't they just replicate the chief?
hmm maybe if they using alrdy used equipment. thats 80 plus years old . they wouldnt be breaking down all the time.
If Replicators can produce food and drink for free and appear to be nearly anywhere, why/how does Quark charge for drinks?
probably limited what you got elsewhere
According to the refined palate of a certain Captain Montgomery Scott, replicated alcohol tastes like swill, and only the genuine article will do.
Quark has access to specialized culinary copyrighted food and beverage material from the best chefs in the quadrant. The molecular patterns of this fine cuisine are programs that run off a digital rights management system. Think of how digital copyright copies are handled today and it's the same idea. There are license fees he has to pay to offer this and it's passed down to the customers when they order something. Regular replicators don't have this. Think of it like having a commercial grade kitchen, most people don't have that in their homes because it is too expensive.
Spoonhead Tech....
Why don't they replicate latinum
Because latinum is unreplicatable. >.>
There's actually liquid inside the bars, that's the true value. The liquid has too high of an energy to replicate.
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