A few points to make: 1. No one was calling Feliks washed in 2018, it was post covid where people started emphasizing it. 2. By comparing tymon and feliks’s solutions, you can see that tymon’s solutions are less turn speed based, while feliks is basically standard cfop with some zb aspects. 3. Feliks’s best averages are being overtaken by several people, and if the up and coming Chinese cubers can compete in worlds 23, it’ll be difficult for feliks to beat, especially since he’s not at his peak anymore.
Matthew in his comment on this worded it wrong. Feliks is by no means underrated. I'm pretty sure what he meant was that Feliks is being forgotten when he shouldn't be, and that he's underestimated. Feel free to argue, it's ur opinion, but I think he's underestimated based on what Matthew said in the video.
One of my favourite comments related to Feliks was on a video '' Feliks vs Tymon '', where a commenter wrote, "Feliks is like Lightning Mcqueen in Cars, he was shining, the fastest and the champion before. But now, just like in the movie, many cubers appear more advance and fast. And some of feliks buddies of cubing before like mats and others are slowly innactive in cubing just like mcqueen and his buddies in movies. It's sad but still feliks is the only champion that sticks in our heart, forever." i still hope that Feliks wins the 2023 world championship, it's quite hard for him now but, miracles can happen...
Everything is possible at Worlds and I’d love to see Feliks win (he will always be the GOAT to me). The field of top cubers is going to be crazy though and we saw recently that Tymon can handle enormous pressure. Will be exciting for us to watch.
I have been cubing since Feb 2015 , it's pretty annoying to see new cubers call Tymon or Max the GOAT whereas they haven't even set a lot of records like Feliks. They know nothing about Feliks Zemdegs , the person who has 350+ records across all speedcubing events. Tymon and Max are great cubers but Feliks for me is on a whole different level . Newer cubers should put some respect on his name.
@Juyhjuyh TFM feliks literally had 14 single-average world records, won Worlds twice, broke the sub 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 barriers. Max has a long way to go before he can even be placed in the same category as the GOAT
Tymon,Max,Ruihang,Feliks... ,all of them (don't know that grammarly correct or not because English is not my mother language haha) are insane cuber. Yeah, Feliks has his job and other things so he can't just put his whole effort in cubing like 2010s, but you can still see him got some sub 6.5 or even sub 6 avg on his channel. I think it shows that Feliks still has a chance to get a podium, and I'll glad to see that.
Eh bringing up times and placings from pre 2020 feels a little disingenuous to everyone who has gotten more notable results after this time period, and it’s pretty clear to most people that Feliks is past his prime. That’s not to say he isn’t undoubtedly the goat, unfortunately life just gets in the way, but there’s a lot to consider for the world championships that are still a year away. Plus worlds finals is such a volatile round in general, usually anyone who’s top 6ish on the psych sheet can sneak the win with a reasonable performance, so I wouldn’t count anybody out for first place at this point (feliks included of course).
Fair enough. I do find it hard find any more recent data though. Like when was the last major championships Feliks competed alongside people like Tymon and Matty? It’s hard to gauge where everyone would be now. I will say though the Matty and Tymon continental championship wins were crazy! Just don’t know how that stacks up to Worlds nerves 🤷♂️. But you probably know that a lot better than me!
Definitely. Tymon's solve to replace his 4th solve was amazing. He clutched a sub 5 under so much pressure to get the wr. So he is definitely capable of handling pressure
I just subbed. Please keep these high quality videos up. I really want to see more of these style of videos. Maybe possibly lengthier but right now they’re great as is! Keep it up!
Interesting video with some very solid points. Personally, while I’d love to see Feliks make a comeback, I’m not all too sure if it’s realistic for him to win Worlds anymore. In one of LazerMonkey’s videos he himself admitted that he peaked in 2018, and has been averaging high-6 since 2019. Keeping up with Tymon and Max would be a tall order since sub-6 has become the norm for them. But then again, Worlds 2019 showed us that pretty much anybody could snag the win on a good day, so who knows?
Honestly I agree , but max can also handle pressure and a lot of people are just talking abt Matty and tymon , but max park exists and he has around 6 years of professional cubing experience with 3 offline major championships and 1 online champ(don’t really think the online one can be counted tho ) , feliks surely is showing a good comeback with his previous sub 6 avg and has been counting 5s more often but still I hope to see him cross his peak and become the best , atleast for 3x3 , abt who probably will win I’m not really sure but ruihang xu is looking pretty good with a 64 move sub 4 and a lot more 15+ and 16+ tps solves one almost reached 17 tps being 16.98 it’s just insane how fast he’s gotten
I totally agree with your predictions. If not win, I think Felik will at least podium. By the way, your videos are so good, I watch them over and over! Lol
I honestly think that this is a great point.. Since Feliks has the advantage with experience, he really can't be ruled out. Anyways, I genuinely think that his previous WRs were impressive, but the quantity could be explainable. It's most likely because speedcubing has just been booming at his time, and WRs were nothing compared to now. Albeit, his records are very impressive, but I'd say that the more recent a WR is, the harder it is to beat.
What these new cubers are doing is insane! But Feliks did a lot to pioneer that path. Makes you wonder if Feliks would be just as fast as someone like Tymon today if all the knowledge Feliks pioneered in his prime existed and if Tymon would be Feliks if he started in 2007-8 like Feliks
Back in the Speedcubers documentary they talked about how 2018 seemed like the beginning of the end and how the 2018 US Nationals seemed to shock even Feliks’ dad.
Feliks has it unfairly hard simply because he's _technically_ slipping down the ranks (for now anyway), but imagine someone had the exact same competition PBs he has now but were NEW and climbing the ranks instead of slipping. They would be considered a HUGE deal. He's literally currently one of only three people in the world to be in the top 10 for both single and average of 3^3 to 7^3 TODAY, the third best overall N^3 solver in the world right NOW. People can talk about "washed" when they can do better. I remember when Alexander Lau was second in the world while Feliks was first. Alexander isn't even in the top 100 anymore but Feliks is nearly 30-years-old and still very firmly in the game. He didn't fall off; he's just more busy now. That's still young in the grand scheme of things though. He's not some geezer with dementia and horribly aching fingers lol. I honestly believe if some billionaire told Feliks they would fund him for life, to drop all his responsibilities and start cubing 8 hours per day as his new job, he might just world record sweep the N^3 events again. Edit: I should add that Feliks said he only cubed like 30 minutes to an hour per day on average and had some days he didn't solve at all even in his PRIME which is almost hard for me to believe to be honest. People like Max, Tymon, Ruihang, Yiheng, etc. all practice far more than that. As a classical musician and speedrunner, it's just the norm for me to assume that people at the top of speed events are practicing about 8 hours per day, not impossible at all but basically like a job. Edit to the edit: I'm not sure about worlds though. Despite his experience, I think Feliks is absolutely horrible with nerves. They're his biggest weakness and all the washed comments and pressure are only going to make that worse. I'm exactly the same. I can learn new classical pieces and have them down flawlessly on command when alone but sound so bad if I go to record them or show someone live that I sound almost like I made it up and I have to practice about 10 times more to the same with that pressure. I think Tymon is the opposite. He's one of those rare people who somehow does better under pressure than without it sometimes. It's arguably a bigger asset than his efficiency and exactly why he was so dominant in Monkey League while other people did worse in that format. My suspicions were confirmed when he still got world record while having to do a resolve with what felt like the whole world watching. I'd love to see Feliks win though. Edit to the edit to the edit (I swear I'm done lol): I've always thought it seemed almost made up that the goat, Feliks, has a name that replaces the usual X with a KS, and was the goat of something most outsiders think is spelled "Rubix" but is actually "Rubik's". The exact same thing. I swear it seems scripted.
Felix has a shot def, tymon has a chance and has a bit of experience under pressure after the 4.86 even tho a miss scramble. And also tymon with the fail 3.75 and a 4.74 fail from the +2. But Felix’s with the experience has what it takes.
100%. Tymon getting that under intense pressure is the clutches solve in cubing! (At least in my mind). That avg makes a strong argument for Tymon to win worlds 2023
I want to see Tymon win because he definitely deserves it the most. Feliks has already won Worlds twice compared to Tymon's 0 times. If Tymon doesn't take it then he's the best 3x3 solver to not have won Worlds.
It's really annoying that the world champion title is based on who can control their nerves best instead of who is the best. You deserve more subs. Keep making great videos.
It is clearly seen that Felix's is not at his prime anymore, people like Ruixang, Max, Leo and Matty are all already comparable to Felix. But Felix has one VERY big advantage, experience. He started to cube the earliest, he was under pressure the most and I love that this point was mentioned in this video. The only thing that he maybe is not so good at is his lookahead and Iam not saying that his look is bad, Iam just saying that it's not world record material. For example, Tymon's look ahead is just godly, he can basically predict and execute his oll before inserting his last pair, also making double x-crosses like it's nothing...
you may wish, but guys like Tymon, Matt and Max aren't waiting . they building up speed , confidence and experience. Who will be the winner? Nobody knows. What I do know is ,if there will be new WR and ER in 2023 it wil stand for a long long time
you're also forgetting Patrick Ponce who beat Tymon at Euros finals with a mid 5 average lol. If he can pull out a similar performance at Worlds finals he has a good shot of winning imo
I'm sorry but no. This video actually bothers me. You mentioned he won a Warmup comp 2019. A WARMUP Comp. He didn't even end up podium in the actual world championship. Sure, he was extremely close. But close doesn't mean win. Not to mention the winning time was much slower than either NAC or Europe's winner. Then you go onto mention how he won 2018 US Nats but seemingly forget how that was 4 years ago which is a very long time for cubing. Plus this comp meant very little as there was no title for him to even win. Also if we really are gonna mention times then it has to be mentioned that Tymon, despite being the world record holder still won euros despite an actual sub par performance with 6.06 average. When was the last time Feliks had av average sub that? (Edit: he did get one out liar 5.95 average) 2019... I repeat 2019, which was his world record average. And he only tied 6.06 in 2021. And Matty won NAC with an amazing 5.68 average. Even better than Tymons. Also you seem to forget he also failed to podium in 2017. When he was still in his prime where Max Park ended up winning or Seung Huyk Nahm if luck was on his side that day.. Meaning that Feliks didn't get 5 flawless solves to win in 2017. And he also failed to podium in Asia championship the following year. Not even replicating what he did in Nats 2018. Which by the way wasn't even the North American Championship meaning no Canadian or mexican could win. So in the end it doesn't even mean that much to him. Cause in the end there was nothing for him to even lose or gain. So really how good is he now? Now before anyone gets mad he is the greatest cuber ever. And no one can take that away from him. He has had so many NxN titles. World records, continental records Etc. But that doesn't mean he will magically reclaim the title of the best at any of the NxNs overnight. To many people are faster than him on average. Especially at 3x3. Experience is very overrated in a solo hobby or sport due to the fact that it's only you. It's not like basketball where if one team has every inexperienced starters with tons of talent, while the other has tons off experience where it's actually evens out. I mention basketball specifically because of the last seasons final. Where golden state has many veteran guys and Boston had many young players, and the pressure got them despite leading the series. But in warriors case they had those veterans. Solo sport isn't like that. Because it is only you and no one else. This means you can't rely on someone else to help you nor drag you to a win like the Warriors. Skill matters way more in solo sports. That's what makes the Olympics so definitive. Because many events are solo. Where talent matters just as much. In the Tokyo summer Olympics Keagan Palmer. A teen from Australia won the skateboarding event despite being only 18 years old at the time. With older and more experienced skateboarders in the finals as well. That was the most recent example of an inexperienced but talented and skilled individual winning a major medal, despite the lack of experience. There are more I could look up. So how did he then win all off these championships before you ask? Well simply put he was actually more talented and skilled than anyone else. Between 2012 and 2016 he was ahead of the curve. But since then he has no World championship podium, which begs the question how good he really is under pressure. Only a few out liar sub 6 averages. Unlike the best today like Tymon who gets sub 6 almost every average. Max park who also gets is very often. Ruihang Xu. Ok you get it. Simply put people are getting ahead of him now. And it is clear to me that feliks is past his prime. Also the experience these insane cubers have gotten now the past two years has proven to be more than enough to win championships. Tymon literally just won Euroes. The second biggest title he could win. The chances of Feliks getting top 5 isn't farfetched. The chances are of him podium isn't that unrealistic. But the odds of him winning are slim to none. I usually think your videos are great. Most are well thought out. Well written and good edit work. But this video has to many holes that you either forgot or choose to not include to make your case stronger. And I really dislike how you include some details but ignore or forget more important details. That immediately counter your own points. I unfortunately have to give this video a dislike due to the fact amount of loopholes and details that aren't included.
I definitely think experience is a lot more important than you might think. Back in 2011 Feliks was supposed to win the world championships but messed up due to nerves. On Chris Mills’ podcast he talked about how he worked a lot on handling nerves for 2013 and 2015. I do think though the failure of 2017 really helped him grow to win 2018 US Nats and a warm up comp on 2019. Even as a warm up comp it had many great competitors he had to compete against. Feliks hasn’t really competed in a major since 2019 so I also don’t have much evidence to pull from. I just feel people overlook experience and nerves when it comes to cubing. I appreciate your thoughts though!
@@Speedcubing-TV The problem here again is you bring up the comps that doesn't mean a lot to him. He couldn't be the US Champ and winning a Warmup comp doesn't mean to much to him or anyone for that matter. Like seriously has anyone been existed about winning a Warmup comp? And in the end the problem is that I don't think he is good enough to win. Which is honestly a much bigger hurdle.
if everyone gets their average times, the podium is likely gonna be tymon max and matty in no particular order, feliks is gonna need crazy luck to podium let alone win, just because of how far ahead the other three are. tymons 4.56 under insane pressure proves hes either going to win or atleast get podium, max is just max, and matty i dont know too much about, but he is still pretty damn good. not to mention the really young chinese cubers like yiheng and ruihang, and theres also seung hyuk nahm to take into consideration, so we really dont know whats gonna happen in terms of feliks winning. feliks has a job, he cant cube as much. hes still the greatest of all time, but i think 2015 is the last win were ever gonna see from feliks.
My argument is that no one gets their avg times with the nerves of a world finals. With Feliks almost having “nothing to lose” and all his experience, I think he’ll get closer to his avg times than potentially others who seemed to be favored by the general public and don’t have as much experience on a world stage.
Feliks zemdegs only podiuming in 5x5 and 6x6 but not the main event 3x3 at oceanic championships 2022 maybe a sign that feliks needs to improve his consistency if he wants to win worlds championships
All well-deserved props to Felix, but I just don't think it's going to happen. By worlds next year, it will have been almost 4 years since Felix got a PR average, which was WR at the time. His comp times since then have been trending upwards, while Max Park and Tymon have been chewing down towards that 5.00 mark with a vengeance. Yes, experience counts for something. But IMO both Max and Tymon have had plenty of experience in high-pressure situations (like that one where Tymon had to do an extra scramble with a WR on the line? Insane!), so I don't think that makes a compelling case for Feliks.
I'm not saying that I disagree with you, but 2019 is already 3 years ago, Feliks has started his job, and he has less time to practice, just look at his results in his latest competitions, he's constantly getting more and more non-sub-7 averages, which shows that his consistency is getting worse than before i.e. in 2019 or so when he's at his peak and still held the world record.
I hate it when people starts to say Feliks is done. It's true that fancier solvers are appearing, faster solvers are appearing, but if Feliks still cubes, ofc he will find ways to push himself further right? just like any other cubers. Eventually, at least for 3x3, anyone is still in the game. So far it's still too early to say anyone dominating 3x3. Moreover, cubing is not just about winning or breaking record. It's a community. Even though we see the rivalry between many talented cubers, I believe that all of them are good friends more than rivals. That is why cubing is beautiful. Cubing might be a competition between cubers, but in my opinion ultimately cubing is a battle of a group of cubers against a common enemy: time. I would only regard Feliks as done when he quits cubing. And ofc he's forever a legend and we cannot forget what he has done to the cubing community. Without him I'm sure this community can't get this far right now
Keep these coming. I’m curious to know more of the details of sponsorships. How much do the herpes get paid? Does Gan post for their flights? Why doesn’t Moyu put more money out to Stacy big names? Why isn’t max sponsored by Gan anymore? The last question has me most curious. But that’s partly because I like imagining drama. Even thought I’m a dad, I still want to know the secrets
Feliks is no doubt very good, but other cubers have already proven that they can perform under extreme pressure (i.e. Tymon’s last solve of his 4.86 average)
Although I do believe that someone like Tymon or Max have a better chance at winning, Feliks winning would be one of, if not the greatest comebacks in cubing history in my opinion
Yeah Felix is a really experienced cuber, Though Now that he has a job, He may not really have much time to practice, But Tymon Is becoming faster daily.
I personally think Tymon will win but I still think Feliks has a good chance. About the pressure aspect of worlds. I think Tymon handles it better. Just look at the resolve from his wr average. Comp was literally over and everyone stayed to watch him. I think that’s more pressure personally
@@Speedcubing-TV At the end of the day I’ve only been cubing for a year so from what I’ve seen while I’ve been cubing Tymon is my biggest cubing influence. I do understand how legendary feliks is though
I do hope that feliks wins, but i find it quite unlikely. Tymon is simply a better cuber and has demonstrated he can handle pressure well. And there are a LOT of cubers as fast as feliks nowadays, so if he just has a bad day, that's it for him. Also, feliks is an adult now and can't dedicate as much time as before to cubing. There's no way he can compete with tymon and max parks who spend entire days to cubing.
@@Speedcubing-TV I predicted that for 2021 he wouldn't due to incredibly easy scrambles giving everyone else amaxing results. But then 2021 got cancelled...
You forgot to mention the major reason why Felix has lost his fluidity in the recent years He had to buy ketchup 😂 No but seriously dude . If you look at other guys they are in either college or school Most of them practice around 4 hours a day and in case of tymon and max, they practice as much they are awake minus eating😁 Now Felix, is a graduate .he finished his internship at a company a while ago and now he is looking for a job (or he is employed idk). I am surprised how does he get time for even showing up at a competition but appreciate it. That's what happens man. Life gets in the way Soon this will happen to max and tymon and someone will come who'll better than them The mantle is passed on from one generation to another with grace
"You have to buy the ketchup" lol. I truly believe though that people find time for what's important to them and if Feliks wanted to practice he would find time to do it.
@@Speedcubing-TV of course but the question is not about finding time. It's about finding the same amount of time you got before "life got in the way" . And that is not possible .
A few points to make: 1. No one was calling Feliks washed in 2018, it was post covid where people started emphasizing it. 2. By comparing tymon and feliks’s solutions, you can see that tymon’s solutions are less turn speed based, while feliks is basically standard cfop with some zb aspects. 3. Feliks’s best averages are being overtaken by several people, and if the up and coming Chinese cubers can compete in worlds 23, it’ll be difficult for feliks to beat, especially since he’s not at his peak anymore.
Fair points. Definitely think though that he is still far more underrated than people think.
@@Speedcubing-TV Feliks is definitely not underrated by any means.
@@Speedcubing-TV At this point I would say that his current skill is overrated.
@@Speedcubing-TV no he is definitely not underrated.
Matthew in his comment on this worded it wrong. Feliks is by no means underrated. I'm pretty sure what he meant was that Feliks is being forgotten when he shouldn't be, and that he's underestimated. Feel free to argue, it's ur opinion, but I think he's underestimated based on what Matthew said in the video.
welp, this couldn’t be farther from the truth now..
Bro forgot Feliks isn't competing alone
One of my favourite comments related to Feliks was on a video '' Feliks vs Tymon '', where a commenter wrote,
"Feliks is like Lightning Mcqueen in Cars, he was shining, the fastest and the champion before. But now, just like in the movie, many cubers appear more advance and fast. And some of feliks buddies of cubing before like mats and others are slowly innactive in cubing just like mcqueen and his buddies in movies. It's sad but still feliks is the only champion that sticks in our heart, forever."
i still hope that Feliks wins the 2023 world championship, it's quite hard for him now but, miracles can happen...
Cars 3 about to happen?
@@Speedcubing-TV female WC?!?!
@@finnvandermaas lol
when you realize that CARS means "Cubing And Rapid Suprises" as in feliks winning worlds 2023. is this a clue?
@@MrPolitical2 yes, it will have a surprise in the worlds 2023 certainly
Wow this aged well.
Dude feliks didn't even move on to the semi finals
watching this after feliks didnt even make it to the third round... a 7.91 average
This aged well
We all knew he wouldn't win
Bro he did not even make semis💀💀💀
Everything is possible at Worlds and I’d love to see Feliks win (he will always be the GOAT to me). The field of top cubers is going to be crazy though and we saw recently that Tymon can handle enormous pressure. Will be exciting for us to watch.
For sure! It will be a worlds for the ages!
Keep the good quality videos coming!
Hopefully I can keep it up!
also feliks in wc2023: didn't even make it into semi finals
I have been cubing since Feb 2015 , it's pretty annoying to see new cubers call Tymon or Max the GOAT whereas they haven't even set a lot of records like Feliks. They know nothing about Feliks Zemdegs , the person who has 350+ records across all speedcubing events. Tymon and Max are great cubers but Feliks for me is on a whole different level . Newer cubers should put some respect on his name.
Feliks is a really great pioneer!
@Juyhjuyh TFM feliks literally had 14 single-average world records, won Worlds twice, broke the sub 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 barriers.
Max has a long way to go before he can even be placed in the same category as the GOAT
Well they can call Max and Tymon GOAT but Feliks Zemdeg will always be the GOD of cubing
Honestly, I'd say Feliks is the GOAT but you could consider that at the time when Feliks was dominating, it was easier to set records than it is now.
Tymon,Max,Ruihang,Feliks... ,all of them (don't know that grammarly correct or not because English is not my mother language haha) are insane cuber. Yeah, Feliks has his job and other things so he can't just put his whole effort in cubing like 2010s, but you can still see him got some sub 6.5 or even sub 6 avg on his channel. I think it shows that Feliks still has a chance to get a podium, and I'll glad to see that.
Ngl, this aged very well. (He didn’t make finals from what I remember)
50 years from now, the only name people will remember in speedcubing is Feliks Zemdegs.
Yes. The greatest cuber of all time.
Hate to break it to you….
Eh bringing up times and placings from pre 2020 feels a little disingenuous to everyone who has gotten more notable results after this time period, and it’s pretty clear to most people that Feliks is past his prime. That’s not to say he isn’t undoubtedly the goat, unfortunately life just gets in the way, but there’s a lot to consider for the world championships that are still a year away. Plus worlds finals is such a volatile round in general, usually anyone who’s top 6ish on the psych sheet can sneak the win with a reasonable performance, so I wouldn’t count anybody out for first place at this point (feliks included of course).
Fair enough. I do find it hard find any more recent data though. Like when was the last major championships Feliks competed alongside people like Tymon and Matty? It’s hard to gauge where everyone would be now. I will say though the Matty and Tymon continental championship wins were crazy! Just don’t know how that stacks up to Worlds nerves 🤷♂️. But you probably know that a lot better than me!
Sick video, I hope your channel continues to grow like it is
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Not impossible but I think people like Tymon and Matty are racking up experience too and should be able to hold their nerve in a worlds final by now
Very much true!
Especially how Matty clutched the US nationals with a 5.62 average in the finals
Definitely. Tymon's solve to replace his 4th solve was amazing. He clutched a sub 5 under so much pressure to get the wr. So he is definitely capable of handling pressure
I just subbed. Please keep these high quality videos up. I really want to see more of these style of videos. Maybe possibly lengthier but right now they’re great as is! Keep it up!
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procede a ser eliminado en segunda ronda de 3x3
Interesting video with some very solid points. Personally, while I’d love to see Feliks make a comeback, I’m not all too sure if it’s realistic for him to win Worlds anymore. In one of LazerMonkey’s videos he himself admitted that he peaked in 2018, and has been averaging high-6 since 2019. Keeping up with Tymon and Max would be a tall order since sub-6 has become the norm for them. But then again, Worlds 2019 showed us that pretty much anybody could snag the win on a good day, so who knows?
“Worlds 2019 showed us pretty much anybody could snag a win” I love that, because I think that sums up my point entirely
It really depends. Matty still managed to pull off an incredible 5.62 average in the US nationals finals.
People weren't quite as sub 6 in 2019 as they are now though
its always exciting to watch your videos
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wow it would really great,youre correct with his experience,when he was solving in worlds 2011 young talents of speedcubing wasn't even 5 years
His experience makes him the goat!
He wasn’t even close tbh
A 9 year old is screaming no to the screen right now
I always say this: even though feliks isn’t the fastest cuber anymore, he will ALWAYS remain the greatest
someone who was hungover beat feliks in 3x3 R2
didnt even make it to finals
Honestly I agree , but max can also handle pressure and a lot of people are just talking abt Matty and tymon , but max park exists and he has around 6 years of professional cubing experience with 3 offline major championships and 1 online champ(don’t really think the online one can be counted tho ) , feliks surely is showing a good comeback with his previous sub 6 avg and has been counting 5s more often but still I hope to see him cross his peak and become the best , atleast for 3x3 , abt who probably will win I’m not really sure but ruihang xu is looking pretty good with a 64 move sub 4 and a lot more 15+ and 16+ tps solves one almost reached 17 tps being 16.98 it’s just insane how fast he’s gotten
Max Park definitely has a lot of experience and could win too!
I totally agree with your predictions. If not win, I think Felik will at least podium. By the way, your videos are so good, I watch them over and over! Lol
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Nice vid man! Keep it up :)
the music gives me nostalgic vibes smh lol
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I hope Seong Hyuk-Nam wins, what happened last time was tragic
A 2017 revenge tour for him would be insane!
are u sure about that
Tymon can also solve under pressure. Just look at his WR 4.86 even with a miscramble. Also, his solutions are the best.
Imagine how epic it would have been if Feliks won Worlds 2019, considering it was his hometown
It would’ve been elite
I honestly think that this is a great point.. Since Feliks has the advantage with experience, he really can't be ruled out. Anyways, I genuinely think that his previous WRs were impressive, but the quantity could be explainable. It's most likely because speedcubing has just been booming at his time, and WRs were nothing compared to now. Albeit, his records are very impressive, but I'd say that the more recent a WR is, the harder it is to beat.
What these new cubers are doing is insane! But Feliks did a lot to pioneer that path. Makes you wonder if Feliks would be just as fast as someone like Tymon today if all the knowledge Feliks pioneered in his prime existed and if Tymon would be Feliks if he started in 2007-8 like Feliks
Feliks is busy with works, he doesn't have the time to practice
He is my inspiration
“You have to buy the ketchup”
Not a single soul thought that Feliks was washed in 2018… he had both single and average WRs and set the single WR twice that very year.
Back in the Speedcubers documentary they talked about how 2018 seemed like the beginning of the end and how the 2018 US Nationals seemed to shock even Feliks’ dad.
where is it
These are all great points! I think he should win too.
Feliks will always be the GOAT
Feliks has been elite for a long time!
you should make a video for each major contender for worlds 23
That would be interesting! “The case for Max Park” “The Case for Tymon” “The Case For Matty” “The Case for Patrick” and so on…
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Feliks is, and will always be, a legend.
100%
almost impossible 4 feliks to podium
Never say never!
Didn't get to the 3rd round
Feliks has it unfairly hard simply because he's _technically_ slipping down the ranks (for now anyway), but imagine someone had the exact same competition PBs he has now but were NEW and climbing the ranks instead of slipping. They would be considered a HUGE deal. He's literally currently one of only three people in the world to be in the top 10 for both single and average of 3^3 to 7^3 TODAY, the third best overall N^3 solver in the world right NOW. People can talk about "washed" when they can do better.
I remember when Alexander Lau was second in the world while Feliks was first. Alexander isn't even in the top 100 anymore but Feliks is nearly 30-years-old and still very firmly in the game. He didn't fall off; he's just more busy now.
That's still young in the grand scheme of things though. He's not some geezer with dementia and horribly aching fingers lol. I honestly believe if some billionaire told Feliks they would fund him for life, to drop all his responsibilities and start cubing 8 hours per day as his new job, he might just world record sweep the N^3 events again.
Edit: I should add that Feliks said he only cubed like 30 minutes to an hour per day on average and had some days he didn't solve at all even in his PRIME which is almost hard for me to believe to be honest. People like Max, Tymon, Ruihang, Yiheng, etc. all practice far more than that. As a classical musician and speedrunner, it's just the norm for me to assume that people at the top of speed events are practicing about 8 hours per day, not impossible at all but basically like a job.
Edit to the edit: I'm not sure about worlds though. Despite his experience, I think Feliks is absolutely horrible with nerves. They're his biggest weakness and all the washed comments and pressure are only going to make that worse. I'm exactly the same. I can learn new classical pieces and have them down flawlessly on command when alone but sound so bad if I go to record them or show someone live that I sound almost like I made it up and I have to practice about 10 times more to the same with that pressure.
I think Tymon is the opposite. He's one of those rare people who somehow does better under pressure than without it sometimes. It's arguably a bigger asset than his efficiency and exactly why he was so dominant in Monkey League while other people did worse in that format. My suspicions were confirmed when he still got world record while having to do a resolve with what felt like the whole world watching.
I'd love to see Feliks win though.
Edit to the edit to the edit (I swear I'm done lol): I've always thought it seemed almost made up that the goat, Feliks, has a name that replaces the usual X with a KS, and was the goat of something most outsiders think is spelled "Rubix" but is actually "Rubik's". The exact same thing. I swear it seems scripted.
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i agree i dont think that feliks is even close to being finished
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mf didn't even make it to semi finals
Felix has a shot def, tymon has a chance and has a bit of experience under pressure after the 4.86 even tho a miss scramble. And also tymon with the fail 3.75 and a 4.74 fail from the +2. But Felix’s with the experience has what it takes.
100%. Tymon getting that under intense pressure is the clutches solve in cubing! (At least in my mind). That avg makes a strong argument for Tymon to win worlds 2023
Damn you’ve grown so much dude!
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I want to see Tymon win because he definitely deserves it the most. Feliks has already won Worlds twice compared to Tymon's 0 times. If Tymon doesn't take it then he's the best 3x3 solver to not have won Worlds.
It would be cool to see Tymon’s first win! He’s definitely put in a lot of effort and deserves it!
It's really annoying that the world champion title is based on who can control their nerves best instead of who is the best. You deserve more subs. Keep making great videos.
Isn’t the best based on who can control their nerves?
The best is based on who can perform under pressure because Worlds is the highest level of speedcubing.
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It is clearly seen that Felix's is not at his prime anymore, people like Ruixang, Max, Leo and Matty are all already comparable to Felix. But Felix has one VERY big advantage, experience. He started to cube the earliest, he was under pressure the most and I love that this point was mentioned in this video. The only thing that he maybe is not so good at is his lookahead and Iam not saying that his look is bad, Iam just saying that it's not world record material. For example, Tymon's look ahead is just godly, he can basically predict and execute his oll before inserting his last pair, also making double x-crosses like it's nothing...
And that’s my point is that no one gets WR avg at a worlds finals. It’s always who can just perform the best 5 solve with immense pressure!
you may wish, but guys like Tymon, Matt and Max aren't waiting . they building up speed , confidence and experience. Who will be the winner? Nobody knows. What I do know is ,if there will be new WR and ER in 2023 it wil stand for a long long time
you're also forgetting Patrick Ponce who beat Tymon at Euros finals with a mid 5 average lol. If he can pull out a similar performance at Worlds finals he has a good shot of winning imo
@@fc3x336 true. But i have more trust in Max. Just wait and see
Potentially! 3x3 wr single looking very vulnerable rn!
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I'm sorry but no. This video actually bothers me.
You mentioned he won a Warmup comp 2019. A WARMUP Comp. He didn't even end up podium in the actual world championship. Sure, he was extremely close. But close doesn't mean win. Not to mention the winning time was much slower than either NAC or Europe's winner.
Then you go onto mention how he won 2018 US Nats but seemingly forget how that was 4 years ago which is a very long time for cubing. Plus this comp meant very little as there was no title for him to even win.
Also if we really are gonna mention times then it has to be mentioned that Tymon, despite being the world record holder still won euros despite an actual sub par performance with 6.06 average.
When was the last time Feliks had av average sub that? (Edit: he did get one out liar 5.95 average) 2019... I repeat 2019, which was his world record average. And he only tied 6.06 in 2021. And Matty won NAC with an amazing 5.68 average. Even better than Tymons.
Also you seem to forget he also failed to podium in 2017. When he was still in his prime where Max Park ended up winning or Seung Huyk Nahm if luck was on his side that day.. Meaning that Feliks didn't get 5 flawless solves to win in 2017. And he also failed to podium in Asia championship the following year. Not even replicating what he did in Nats 2018. Which by the way wasn't even the North American Championship meaning no Canadian or mexican could win. So in the end it doesn't even mean that much to him. Cause in the end there was nothing for him to even lose or gain.
So really how good is he now? Now before anyone gets mad he is the greatest cuber ever. And no one can take that away from him. He has had so many NxN titles. World records, continental records Etc. But that doesn't mean he will magically reclaim the title of the best at any of the NxNs overnight. To many people are faster than him on average. Especially at 3x3.
Experience is very overrated in a solo hobby or sport due to the fact that it's only you. It's not like basketball where if one team has every inexperienced starters with tons of talent, while the other has tons off experience where it's actually evens out. I mention basketball specifically because of the last seasons final. Where golden state has many veteran guys and Boston had many young players, and the pressure got them despite leading the series. But in warriors case they had those veterans. Solo sport isn't like that. Because it is only you and no one else. This means you can't rely on someone else to help you nor drag you to a win like the Warriors. Skill matters way more in solo sports. That's what makes the Olympics so definitive. Because many events are solo. Where talent matters just as much. In the Tokyo summer Olympics Keagan Palmer. A teen from Australia won the skateboarding event despite being only 18 years old at the time. With older and more experienced skateboarders in the finals as well. That was the most recent example of an inexperienced but talented and skilled individual winning a major medal, despite the lack of experience. There are more I could look up.
So how did he then win all off these championships before you ask? Well simply put he was actually more talented and skilled than anyone else. Between 2012 and 2016 he was ahead of the curve. But since then he has no World championship podium, which begs the question how good he really is under pressure. Only a few out liar sub 6 averages. Unlike the best today like Tymon who gets sub 6 almost every average. Max park who also gets is very often. Ruihang Xu. Ok you get it. Simply put people are getting ahead of him now. And it is clear to me that feliks is past his prime. Also the experience these insane cubers have gotten now the past two years has proven to be more than enough to win championships. Tymon literally just won Euroes. The second biggest title he could win.
The chances of Feliks getting top 5 isn't farfetched. The chances are of him podium isn't that unrealistic. But the odds of him winning are slim to none.
I usually think your videos are great. Most are well thought out. Well written and good edit work. But this video has to many holes that you either forgot or choose to not include to make your case stronger. And I really dislike how you include some details but ignore or forget more important details. That immediately counter your own points. I unfortunately have to give this video a dislike due to the fact amount of loopholes and details that aren't included.
I definitely think experience is a lot more important than you might think. Back in 2011 Feliks was supposed to win the world championships but messed up due to nerves. On Chris Mills’ podcast he talked about how he worked a lot on handling nerves for 2013 and 2015. I do think though the failure of 2017 really helped him grow to win 2018 US Nats and a warm up comp on 2019. Even as a warm up comp it had many great competitors he had to compete against. Feliks hasn’t really competed in a major since 2019 so I also don’t have much evidence to pull from. I just feel people overlook experience and nerves when it comes to cubing. I appreciate your thoughts though!
@@Speedcubing-TV The problem here again is you bring up the comps that doesn't mean a lot to him. He couldn't be the US Champ and winning a Warmup comp doesn't mean to much to him or anyone for that matter. Like seriously has anyone been existed about winning a Warmup comp?
And in the end the problem is that I don't think he is good enough to win. Which is honestly a much bigger hurdle.
He also has a job... So he might not get much practice but he is the G.O.A.T
I do wonder how much he still practices on the daily!
Feliks got 90th :(
if everyone gets their average times, the podium is likely gonna be tymon max and matty in no particular order, feliks is gonna need crazy luck to podium let alone win, just because of how far ahead the other three are. tymons 4.56 under insane pressure proves hes either going to win or atleast get podium, max is just max, and matty i dont know too much about, but he is still pretty damn good. not to mention the really young chinese cubers like yiheng and ruihang, and theres also seung hyuk nahm to take into consideration, so we really dont know whats gonna happen in terms of feliks winning. feliks has a job, he cant cube as much. hes still the greatest of all time, but i think 2015 is the last win were ever gonna see from feliks.
My argument is that no one gets their avg times with the nerves of a world finals. With Feliks almost having “nothing to lose” and all his experience, I think he’ll get closer to his avg times than potentially others who seemed to be favored by the general public and don’t have as much experience on a world stage.
Feliks zemdegs only podiuming in 5x5 and 6x6 but not the main event 3x3 at oceanic championships 2022 maybe a sign that feliks needs to improve his consistency if he wants to win worlds championships
I want fellow to win for sure I know he has what it takes if he studies a lot to improve his solutions he can do it
I feel like old practice is hard to lose in cubing, it’s just how much he has improved since 2019 worlds that matters.
All well-deserved props to Felix, but I just don't think it's going to happen. By worlds next year, it will have been almost 4 years since Felix got a PR average, which was WR at the time. His comp times since then have been trending upwards, while Max Park and Tymon have been chewing down towards that 5.00 mark with a vengeance. Yes, experience counts for something. But IMO both Max and Tymon have had plenty of experience in high-pressure situations (like that one where Tymon had to do an extra scramble with a WR on the line? Insane!), so I don't think that makes a compelling case for Feliks.
That’s fair. As the new guys get more experienced, Feliks will slowly get edged out
I'm not saying that I disagree with you, but 2019 is already 3 years ago, Feliks has started his job, and he has less time to practice, just look at his results in his latest competitions, he's constantly getting more and more non-sub-7 averages, which shows that his consistency is getting worse than before i.e. in 2019 or so when he's at his peak and still held the world record.
That’s true, the hard part is the last worlds was 2019 so it’s hard to find any new data!
He didn't qualify 😭😭😞
As much as I love felik's, its tough. There are several cubers faster than him consistently. Tymon averaged within 0.6 seconds of his best single
I think the lesson of 2019 though is anyone who makes top 8 can arguably win though. So it’s tough but not out of the realm of possibilities…
@@Speedcubing-TV definitely. I don't think anyone is saying Felik's can't win, just that other cubers have higher chances.
He definitely has experience on his side.
Every world finals since 2011
I hate it when people starts to say Feliks is done. It's true that fancier solvers are appearing, faster solvers are appearing, but if Feliks still cubes, ofc he will find ways to push himself further right? just like any other cubers. Eventually, at least for 3x3, anyone is still in the game. So far it's still too early to say anyone dominating 3x3.
Moreover, cubing is not just about winning or breaking record. It's a community. Even though we see the rivalry between many talented cubers, I believe that all of them are good friends more than rivals. That is why cubing is beautiful. Cubing might be a competition between cubers, but in my opinion ultimately cubing is a battle of a group of cubers against a common enemy: time.
I would only regard Feliks as done when he quits cubing. And ofc he's forever a legend and we cannot forget what he has done to the cubing community. Without him I'm sure this community can't get this far right now
Feliks has done so much for the community, I definitely think all these competitors are rivals but also are great friends at the end of the day!
Keep these coming. I’m curious to know more of the details of sponsorships. How much do the herpes get paid?
Does Gan post for their flights? Why doesn’t Moyu put more money out to Stacy big names?
Why isn’t max sponsored by Gan anymore?
The last question has me most curious. But that’s partly because I like imagining drama. Even thought I’m a dad, I still want to know the secrets
Bro I have no idea/ I have no idea how to find out. But that does seem cool!
I don’t think he even made it to semifinals
Amazing video. Btw, bg music is good, which music it is?
Feliks is no doubt very good, but other cubers have already proven that they can perform under extreme pressure (i.e. Tymon’s last solve of his 4.86 average)
That’s true
Although I do believe that someone like Tymon or Max have a better chance at winning, Feliks winning would be one of, if not the greatest comebacks in cubing history in my opinion
“Comeback cuber of the year”
Yeah Felix is a really experienced cuber, Though Now that he has a job, He may not really have much time to practice, But Tymon Is becoming faster daily.
I feel like it’s hard to lose speed though. So I think he’s bonafide around the 6.5 range
@@Speedcubing-TV yeah, coz he's using the basic Cfop ig
Feliks is always a legend no matter what! My true inspiration!❤❤
He will definitely be a legend no matter what!
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I told Feliks ,he can get sub 3 in world championship this year
feliks had the 3by3 wr in 2018
Yeah I don’t know, I think feliks could podium but tymon can handle pressure too.
Yeah his 4.86 really showed that
I personally think Tymon will win but I still think Feliks has a good chance. About the pressure aspect of worlds. I think Tymon handles it better. Just look at the resolve from his wr average. Comp was literally over and everyone stayed to watch him. I think that’s more pressure personally
100% agree that Tymon can perform under pressure! That 4.86 was crazy! If he can do that in a worlds finals he is going to win for sure!
@@Speedcubing-TV At the end of the day I’ve only been cubing for a year so from what I’ve seen while I’ve been cubing Tymon is my biggest cubing influence. I do understand how legendary feliks is though
I agree with this the only reason I say I don’t is because tymon has good hair lol
Lol
@@Speedcubing-TV it’s a good reason anyways I can’t wait for my 4x4
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I do hope that feliks wins, but i find it quite unlikely. Tymon is simply a better cuber and has demonstrated he can handle pressure well. And there are a LOT of cubers as fast as feliks nowadays, so if he just has a bad day, that's it for him.
Also, feliks is an adult now and can't dedicate as much time as before to cubing. There's no way he can compete with tymon and max parks who spend entire days to cubing.
It would be insane if Feliks won
I dont give a crap about who wins, as at the end of the day, we all know that felix is the OG OG OG OG GOAT
Feliks really did help grow this community!
@@Speedcubing-TV I'd say he DID grow the community, 99.99% speedcubers nowadays were inspired and motivated by him.
Cubing Historian but evolved
Cubing Historian has great content!
@@Speedcubing-TV but he stopped uploading :(
Lmao he lost
This didnt aged well
#FeliksNeverDie
Plot twist: he doesn't make the finals.
Lol, that would be an L
@@Speedcubing-TV I predicted that for 2021 he wouldn't due to incredibly easy scrambles giving everyone else amaxing results. But then 2021 got cancelled...
Feliks is ALWAYS the goat.
Feliks lost
seung hyuk nahm for 2023
That would be crazy!
Maybe it's Feliks, maybe it's Matty or Tymon, maybe it's an Estonian cuber that no one knows is good yet
Nah, everyone knows you as the guy who beat an American in an online Grand Prix in 2020! 😆
Feliks is not just a speedcuber, he is feeling of many speedcubers ❤️
You forgot to mention the major reason why Felix has lost his fluidity in the recent years
He had to buy ketchup 😂
No but seriously dude . If you look at other guys they are in either college or school
Most of them practice around 4 hours a day and in case of tymon and max, they practice as much they are awake minus eating😁
Now Felix, is a graduate .he finished his internship at a company a while ago and now he is looking for a job (or he is employed idk). I am surprised how does he get time for even showing up at a competition but appreciate it.
That's what happens man. Life gets in the way
Soon this will happen to max and tymon and someone will come who'll better than them
The mantle is passed on from one generation to another with grace
"You have to buy the ketchup" lol. I truly believe though that people find time for what's important to them and if Feliks wanted to practice he would find time to do it.
@@Speedcubing-TV of course but the question is not about finding time. It's about finding the same amount of time you got before "life got in the way" . And that is not possible .
Max won
Bruh feliks is not washed up but you will be if you keep this up
What’s that supposed to mean?