(Pt 1 - 4th of July Special) Ram ABS Saga...(CEL ON, Can't Pass Inspection!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- It's time for the 2024 PHAD 4th of July Special!
Owner of this clean 2016 Ram 1500 Hemi drove 4 hours to PHAD because he can't pass the NYS Emissions Inspection (Check Engine Light is ON), and the local shops are out of ideas...
Multiple codes are stored, including:
P0456-EVAP Very Small Leak
and ABS MALFUNCTION...
The "ESIM" EVAP Vent valve and ABS Module have already been replaced...TWICE!!
So we have to address ALL the issues for the big Ram to be happy.
Let's follow the data and see if any parts are required...
LAUNCH X431 PRO3S+:
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ASTRO DC AMP CLAMP:
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OTC 6522 LeakTamer EVAP Smoke Diagnostic Machine:
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Enjoy!
Ivan
The auto manufacturers have finally found a way to force people to buy new vehicles. Design parts that will fail and stop making replacements. Eventually the vehicle becomes unrepairable and you're forced to buy a new one. Genius. Although I have a few less flattering words for it. Absolutely disgusting what is going on in the automotive industry. Designed obsolescence pure and simple.
I am still rocking my 1989 Honda Crx HF that I bought new in Jan. 1989. It has over 378,000 miles on the clock and has never left me for any reason whatsoever. I do my own maintenance and am not a mechanic but can read. Today's cars scare me because I don't like feeling as if I am being played. I still get 40 degrees through the middle vents and can find any parts that I would reasonably expect to need. I don't need forty different modules to get from A to B. Plus, I get 47 mpg day in and day out. So, no dealership/stealership will see me anytime soon if I can help it. If everyone did the same, then they would quickly play a different tune.
The EPA is a major driving force behind a lot of how a vehicle is designed. Impossible mandates force EOMs into hurried, shoddy designs, then the OEMs are blamed for producing crap vehicles.
You will own nothing and be "happy" by 2o3o.
@@nicocas2801 Exactly! Manufacturers will want options to be by subscription where they can milk you monthly forever.
The lack of OEM parts for vehicles under ten years old makes my blood boil.
That's indicating that the manufacturer has no clue about what they are doing when making cars. ABS systems have been around since the beginning of the 1980's, so it should be off the shelf items regardless of brand.
It is intentional. They want you to scrap the vehicle and buy a new one to generate profit. These companies have never considered "the environment" or any other green crap the media shoves down your throat.
Certainly looks like a way to force people to buy newer garbage doesn’t it!
I agree, and this line of thinking back to the early 80's when a GM factory training tech said GM builds a vehicle to last the life of the loan at that time it was about 3yrs.
Now the loans are common to be 7+yrs.
The other issues (Example: Chrysler) they incorporate so many changes depending who they merged with or owned by.
@@kevincampbell8298 Why would Chrysler sabotage their own vehicle? The customer has so much choice. If they reward the OEM by buying another one, that's on them.
I’ve done several of those ABS modules on Chryslers and programmed them. Common fail point. Pressure sensor is internal to the HCU and is a common code and the HCU needs to be replaced since it’s not serviceable like the older units. Happy 4th.
Ivan. If you haven't fixed it already. I have the part numbers for the pins and the connectors. Also new units have to be programmed before scan data is valid. The hcu can be programmed through meritor/wabco program. Free to download. I have rebuilt plenty of the pigtails to the ecu in the past. The electric motor is usually the failure point on mechanical side and corrosion on ecu side. Check the pins, bet wires are broke
Your comment should get pinned at the top for all to see.
Ivan, your production reminds me of the 1960’s Batman TV show …
At the end if each show was the infamous words:
Tune In Next Week, Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel
@@cm-hw5ww That would be... Volvo Ivan, Volvo Ivan, danger danger.........
It probably won't be next week; it likely will be tonight or tomorrow. I would prefer tonight after I get home from watching the fireworks.
You spelled, Same *PHAD time, Same *PHAD channel, wrong! :)
Ivan doesn't give AN answer-Ivan gives THE honest, true answer.
Happy Independence Day Ivan and PHAD fam 🇺🇸👏🇺🇸👏🇺🇸
I just went through this exact issue. I was told at the dealership that the HCU module is a known issue in 2018 trucks, but mine is a 2017 Ram 2500. Replaced the HCU module to fix the issue. My truck has only 104,000 miles. NC truck.
Just had a similar with a '14 F150; bad pressure sensor (inside the HCU, of course), but the electronics module was ok. Ford discontinued the ABS module altogether. Fix from dealer was a Ford-approved replacement ABS and reprogram for $3K! Solution was a used ABS module to harvest the HCU with working pressure sensor inside, swapped onto the the original electronics module. This really looks liked a planned-obsolescence campaign on the part of manufacturers!
Not according to one brain washed dolt in the comment section.
If you think you are smarter than the previous generation, 50 years ago the owners manual of a car showed you how to adjust the valves................Today it warns you not to drink the contents the battery…🤣🤣🤣🤣
Funny, and you had the gauges to set either hot or cold in your manual. I have always believed Cyril Kornbluth's "the Marching Morons" to be the truth made fiction !
Not our fault they started making unadjustable valves and better tasting batteries.
Well before that generation people used to built their own entire houses. Or had to birth their own babies (even recently depending on how far away the hospital is) 😂. But they also used lead paint and asbestos, and leaded gas, and lead paint has caused many children and babies brain damage and industry workers and veterans early deaths. Or the asbestos from the clothes killed the wife who did the laundry for her husband. (Like what happened to my dad's coworker) there's plenty of good reasons to be careful
@@_RiseAgainstlolol..the coolant too.. GULP!
@@zzoinks And how many do you think are dying these days from chemicals and pesticides? I'm rather shocked that you make it sound like these sorts of things aren't still happening.
Good morning Ivan.
Another example of something way more complicated than necessary. Seems to be the rule anymore.
Hope you have a good 4th
How is it possible to not get a new abs module on a 8 year old car?
should be law to keep parts for a safety part..my abs is bad on my 08 dodge an it has only 20,000 miles ..its a dodge lol
They still blame Fauci's epidemic?
Because Alzheimer's Biden and his cronyies want everything Battery Powered and forcing you to buy there EV cars and Trucks and small Engines Shops suffer the same way there is no parts available the only parts out there are aftermarket parts and those parts are almost 100% junk
They still make them, idk why so many people in the comments seem to think they aren’t. With as many issues Ram has had with the abs unit, it’s probably a good thing the controller is going back into engineering.
@@animalcorvair maybe a crafty third party company will learn how to repair them. That's what a company called xmodex does for some volvo computer modules like the abs
I 'm always happy when I see "part 1" and "special" in the title of your videos :)
The "Flying Wings of Quality" (Dorman) gives you such confidence...
It's a wallet with wings, showing you where your money's about to go 💸
Texas is considered a "southern state". However, if your part is coming from a coastal area you need to consider if it could have been under water. Also in certain parts of the north and west areas they do get some snow. Don't know if those areas salt roads or not.
Your holiday specials have become a tradition Ivan! I always look forward to them. Now you’re boxed in! lol
Apparently the OEM ESIM is not much better than the Dorman. Probably manufactured to the same price point by the same manufacturer.
The initialization will write the vin automatically to the module. The write vin option is for new/blank module and doesn’t do anything for used ones that have vin in them
I push the smoke through the ESIM on CDJR vehicles. Whe tested that direction. All you need to do is disconnect the vacuum side of the purge valve and the electrical connector, and then the evap system should be completely sealed.
I woke up this morning wondering what case study you might have for an Independence Day special. Looks like it will be an interesting one and hopefully new fire works in the electrical system. 🤣🤣
It seems like if you want to own a modern vehicle you need your stock up on all the modules while they are available. 🤦♂️
A smart person learns from their mistakes , a wise person learns from the mistakes of others .
Hi Ivan I hope you have a good Independence day celebration today, I hope we will be celebrating as well in the UK as it's the general election day. 🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧
I have to say that RAM is clean. No rust on the rocker panels or wheel wells. I see many with rotted out rocker panels and rusty wheel wells on the box. Not sure about the frame tho. Happy July 4th. We celebrate on July 1st.
Well it's a dodge, case closed.
Geez! I had an old Sears tractor once, about 30 years old, couldn't get a part for it once. I was told that after 30 years, they weren't required to make any more parts for those. Funny.😡
had the same exact code in the ABS module for the brake pressure sensor on another Ram truck but I can't remember the exact model year but it looks like the same set up as this one. the trouble shooting tree for that code it horrible. In a nut shell it says clear codes drive car and if code comes back replace module. Seems like a very common issue with these ABS modules.
More parts available for my 1931 Ford A than for these things.
LOL watch out for check engine light on the 31 Fords i heard it's a Doozy to find the problem
My brother works on a 1926 Ford Model T for a neighbor. The neighbor has relatives from Switzerland coming so he wanted it running to go for a spin. My brother had to do some work on the buzz boxes to get it running well. Had to replace the condenser inside two of them and replaced points on all of them. He said it is running great now. Imagine THAT, you can buy parts for a car that is 98 YEARS OLD, while this stuff made today that is not even 10 years old and you are screwed!
Put OEM parts on get rid of that gas cap and esim and problem solved.
YT and Google are good resources, provided you have a good BS filter. ;) My proof: Scotty Kilmer. XD
God bless me for living in a jurisdiction where you don't need to extinguish check engine lights. :)
Whatever happened to keeping oem parts available for at least eight years by law? Is that no longer?
In Ohio no inspection my 02 Cummins has had an abs light on for ten years now lol
I live in Ohio, too. Some people complain about states letting people drive around with their bumpers held on with bailing wire. I'm thinking, good on ya. I'd disable some of these systems permanently if I could.
"Place your bets now! Will Ivan take to tearing apart these failed modules to overhaul them?"
This vehicle is not that old, support should be mandatory, what does Dodge expect, just trash the 8 yes old truck and buy another one from them, I'm not buying from them anymore
There’s a difference between non-support and not currently available. I don’t think the dealers said any of these parts weren’t being supported any more, just the controller isn’t currently available. Ram has had so many issues with these abs pumps & controllers, it’s probably a good thing they’re back in redesign with the controller.
In the past decade and a half, "Dodge" has been owned by 3 different companies. Not surprising that there are unavailable parts for newer vehicles
All manufacturers are like that now. Go to an Amish farm and buy a horse and buggy to get away from planned obsolescence.
That sensor (number 10) is going up to the vent in the filter tube. (24:15) .. You call it the fuel tank pressure sensor, but I was thinking it's the "pressure relief valve" that it keeps referring to, since it's venting to atmosphere up near the filler. I thought that vent tube would be open all the time, but apparently not... Or if you're right and that's the tank sensor, then where is the pressure relief valve? If it is just a tank pressure sensor, I don't see why it would need to be connected to the vent tube at the filler neck??? You didn't quite show the full list of parts, so I can't find which one it keeps referring to (when it says "pressure relief valve).. I guess it's built into the "multi function control valve" (14).. They call it one thing in the parts list, but then call it another in the operation break down... That makes it fun I guess. :)
Ivan did you ever consider having your own parts rebuild business?😂
A friend of mine has a shop and I was there chatting with him recently he had one of these in. Flashing a PCM issues. He had to break down and pay the fee for the ability to flash the newer Chrysler’s as he sees so many of them. I said I wonder if them not l fixing or having parts issues on vehicles that aren’t really that old is a way of forcing people to buy newer garbage vehicles. The one that was in only had a little over 100,000 KM. So 60is thousand miles
Volvo charges several thousand dollar annual fee to use their diagnostic software and maintenance manual package. But each individual software download costs extra.
So if you're a smaller shop you very well may be unable to fix Volvos past 2015 that require the newest diagnostic software. (Or to perform any kind of software upgrade, you're going to have to rent the diagnostic software, which can be bought in 3 day increments for a still ridiculous fee, and pay the SW update fee). I'm not sure if this applies to bug fix updates, though. But I think some things like relearning transmission software don't need extra cost.
Right to repair
@@zzoinks pretty insane!
If only I had known that my first car, which had ZERO electronics other than the radio, would be worth more than gold itself one day..... and that it could still be repaired and running just fine. Sigh......
Wow 2016 is not 10 years old yet....and abs module discontinued for sale?😢 insane
Buffalo area, that’s my area, and I’d def bring it to you if I have issues with any of my vehicles
Is that dash 'ding,' 'ding,' 'ding' an OSHA or ANSI required sound? Seems common across most platforms.... Why not make it operator selectable? And more profoundably, make it mechanic silenceable during diagnostics.
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Be THANKFUL there's MORE THAN ONE AUTO MANUFACTURER as competition is the most effective means of modernization and improvement... If the government were in TOTAL charge they'd limit it to just ONE car company and it WOULD result in TOTAL CRAP being manufactured.
I know on the older Mopar the abs Initialize function is what writes the VIN
Happy 4rth Ivan
Can’t get enough Ivan, green crustiest and no parts required
Happy July 4th
John
Vancouver 🇨🇦
I live in the US but have a girlfriend that lives on E. 15th St. in Vancouver and have been there many times. Not impressed with the 12 percent sales tax or the gas prices, but other than that it is nice. Glad that you enjoy Ivan. He is one of the best for sure.
@@wallebo we are taxed to death in this country.
I’m 15 minutes from from the border
Buy all our stuff in WA state
@@TheGrumpySkipper Yes, sometimes I fly into Bellingham and get picked up there. Then, I fill up her car with gasoline and we go shopping at Costco and/or Walmart. If I drive, then I am ALWAYS searched at the border. So, I am adverse to spending money in Canada because of the way I am treated at the border. I have seen them finish searching my car and still make me wait an extra 20 minutes for no reason at all.
@@wallebo 40 years of going back and forth
The only time I had to buy gas here was during the zombie apocalypse shutdown
@@TheGrumpySkipper If I got treated better at the border, then I wouldn't mind spending money there. Instead, I make sure that I fill up right before the border (usually in Bellingham). I don't mind using my gasoline while there but want to have enough to get back across the border to give the money to the US and not to Canada. It is petty but it is the only way I can do my one man's nonviolent protest the way that I am treated at the border.
Great video Ivan! Hopefully you can get good parts to work with. Looking forward to part two.
dry Texas, or underwater Texas part?
Stop buying computer controlled vehicles. This is the only way the car companies are going to change. It's a blank check for them when they hold your car hostage for these parts. Wake up it's a scam. Who bought the vehicle and spent their money on it? Do you have any right to repair?
Flying wings strikes again. Happy 4th of July to you Amanda and your families.
america and independence day. chrysler and evap codes. pine hollow and great diag videos. pb &j. just some things that go together very well
Merica !
Happy Independence Day y'all!!! God Bless America!!!! Coffee, PHAD, then I am gonna take myself down and sit my happy ass on the river bank and call "here kitty kitty kitty!" For any ladies watching, I am hell when I whip my rod out. ;)
ive ran through this before (work at dodge dealership) i needed to replace the HCU and the ABS module together. brand new units
Sounds like you have house sparrow overload.
Might as well fix a car if you’re not going to be eating 76 hotdogs in a contest.
GOES WITHOUT SAYING...
AS IN A RHETORICAL
O B S E R V A T I O N :
2024 troubleshooting ==> requires reading/learning almost EVERY TIME.
I had the same problem with another car with a ESIM malfunction. Leak tested and pinched off the vent hose. Found no leaks. Removed the ESIM and it's completely broken internally. The dealer didn't have it in stock. It was on backorder for weeks. Got one from the local autozone. Dorman of course and it didn't work at all. Autozone sent over another Dorman unit. It worked for about a week. I and the customer are getting frustrated at that point, so I went to a local U-Pull-It yard and grabbed a few of them. First one I tried worked. That was 3 months ago, and the money light hasn't come since. It just makes you wonder how Dorman can stay in business when they keep making junk replacement parts that rarely ever work?
That junk module is from a 2014 truck. 2014-2015 have a different part number than 2016+. So you may have a compatability issue causing you not be able to write the VIN or initialize it.
3:00 AM in Arizona and you are hard at work on 4th of july? 🎆🎇 Happy Independence Day Off, Ivan!
This should be a factory recoil, but they're not doing it.
I had that P0456 error and it was not the ESIM. The purge valve under the hood was bad.
On everything in OBD 2 I have ever worked on a Level Sensor code turns on MIL because of fuel volume is taken for the time base for EVAP as in air volume vs fuel level 1/8 to 7/8 in the range it takes to run evap 3/4 less air volume 3/8 more air volume in tank I hope it makes sense. You see it when smoke test how long it takes to fill system. The dorman ESIM probably cost more than the OE part as they are cheap.
Keith Perkins with L1 Automotive recently did a video on Chrysler/Fiat/Stellantis vehicles and the associated fees/ costs involved with diagnosing/repairing and all the hoops they make you jump through. I want to see just what is going to happen with programming this "new" ABS pump. Kinda makes you wonder how long a supply of parts will last, as Ivan stated.
this is crazy only 7 years old and no OEM new parts?
New trucks starting at $50,000 this is insane. what is a regular guy to do?
Ask current Ford Super Duty owners how they feel about their 2024 trucks that have their a/c compressors failing & no parts available.
Now, just because the Ram abs controller isn’t currently available, doesn’t mean it won’t be in a couple months & as much as they fail, it’s probably a good thing they’re getting redesigned.
@@jeffs2809 or tundra owners with blown engines
Have a great 4th of July there Ivan and yes we love them dorman parts don't we ,and the Rust Belt up there you and in eric South main auto you get those green crusties all over, we have them in Minnesota too!!! but I was out in kind of the rural area midwest central Minnesota not in the metro area so we didn't have a lot of it ,but it did creep in more than it should when you get down to the metro area that's a whole nother program the roads are just white all the time come winter
Mine sets a code but does not set the c.e.l for vin miss match
Happy 4th of July to everyone! Ivan, if the connector in the module was green and crusty, wouldn't it stand to reason that the plug was also crusty? As you know, both sides of a contact need to be cleaned. Haven't watched the whole video yet, so maybe you'll look at that...
auto mfgs criminal fraud today for designing making vehicles with 40+ modules which are NLA after 8 years.
Making vehicles so high tech few can diagnose repair such.
Ivan is the new warrior who can deal with this .
Right to repair act is just being ignored by big auto mfgs.
I am keeping my 2003 Chevy Van forever.
There has not been a major right to repair act in the United States, to my knowledge. It is being passed state level, but in differing ways in each state and not all of them. So it would take a federal nationwide regulation to truly force companies to make their cars repairable.
It's 5 Oh-clock... eating breakfast and getting ready for work. Another day in da dumps 😊😅😅
I am so lucky to move from CA to SD, we dont have vehicle inspections in SD. my 1999 GMC Suburban has over 40 codes and no one cares. lol
Ivan sounds hydraulic problem in abs no abs module, craysler no need programing module just initializacion, for the code is wait you can inetilization de module the module happy independence day
The mistake is buying from those manufacturers known to cut corners…
Those pesky third world mechanics strike again. Thanks Ivan!
that upstate NY Dodge will become a rusted out relic in a few years LOL
Imagine if this car/truck was European... I can see the title: Eurotrash, European crap or similar 😂
A lot of cars today are multinational even American brands!
Chrysler: Obligation to repair. 🇺🇸
LOL...if wires are coming from device with wings, the wings are not going to work....
Good work!
Independence spelled wrong on intro....
I have the same truck when my gas tank is low it sets the EVP code and the engine light comes on. I fill my tank and the engine light goes out . 👍🇨🇦
The wings of disappointment strikes again.
Buy the stuff from Harley Davidson that they use to lube the head light switches on the handle bar's I used it on my relays and fuses on my friends bike it not get a corrosion green crusty give it a try on a project the fuel pump relay get the crusty the I A C would start to run by its self with the key switch turn off and no key in the bike
American cars are of such low quality. People should demand better.
Too busy engineering the future failures to worry about manufacturing replacement stocks for the past failures.
Look at all the failure points in the EVAP system. Crazy.
amazing how the manufacturers can take a working simple system and over engineer the crap out of it and make it totally useless and prone to failure.....no wonder people want old and simple unbloated NON computer controlled vehicles....THAT FUNCTION
Most new cars since 2007+ are being designed for 15-20 yrs of service life. Beyond that goodluck...unlike the older cars which you can easily keep going pretty much forever if you don't live in the rust belt. Then you have companies like Dorman producing little black boxes that plug in but don't do anything, they're like the equivalent of the fake security cameras that only look real but inside they're hollow. Don't know how they can get away with it.
At 11:41 "the bigger the blob, the better the job".
I own a 2014, 11-year-old Toyota FJ Cruiser 124K miles and want to know what parts I should buy now before they are unavailable? (Arizona vehicle so no rust)
Its border line criminal this JUNK! Safety systems like brakes/ABS should be hardened to never fail! The auto manufacturers have every one of us by the family jewels!
If Trump wanted the sure edge to win the election, he’d say he would totally support “Right to Repair”, and issue an executive order, ordering all makers of specialized modules (of all kinds) to release hardware, schematics, OS, firmware, etc., to public domain upon their discontinuance.
That gray jackstand looks like the Pittsburgh ones that are under recall. They'll give you new ones if you take those in. At least... a competent store/employee can.
I had some weird ABS problems on my 2014 RAM, light came on and off, sometimes stayed on, I could not connect to the ABS module using AlfaOBD which has worked before when I needed a sensor. Checked fuse, which was OK, code went on and off 10ish times on my way to work, checked fuse again, and it was OK, however the ABS light stayed off after reinserting the fuse, has stayed off for 2 weeks. I believe my problems came from poor connection between fuse and fusebox. I have not tried to reconnect to the abs module, guess I should do that.
The module availability is one thing, the fact that certain states won't give you a little sticker so you can drive your vehicle is another....based on a CEL. That's just unbelievable to me. All the of my vehicles have a persistent CEL for a cat or small evap leak.....why would I spend the money to fix those? Cats especially would be thousands.
KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) should be the industry motto, but the federal bureaucrats have stuck their grubby mitts into the system.
We had a Camry Hybid that has full electric pump controlled ABS Brake pressure module as in electric pumps run to keep accumulates loaded or no brakes it would set a internal pressure sensor code every 9 to 12 months and turn off the RR wheel fluid circuit thinking it had a leak so it would shut off that wheel. The problem was internal sensor code for RR wheel circuit only and the parts were 4000.00 USD for the pump hydraulic unit or possible it states in service info the Skid Control computer another 200.00 USD. No used units could be found and the customer said I'll live with it because of cost. You cleared code and everything worked great for maybe a year but boom one time problem lights on and turns off RR circuit. Being a hybrid special brake system and very very expensive parts and how do you tell what is failing in such a intermittent problem and service info is really for a I'm failed now problem.
this disgusting grease is a rust preventive stuff. . .I had one sprayed in my old Passat by mistake once, , ,After , you cannot touch anywhere under the hood without getting greassy. fingers. . . . Hated it🤨
Isn't new technology and government interference great! You got a nice truck with not that many miles, not very old by older standards, but you can't drive it. Government brings in regulations to screw you, don't have your back to force these auto giants to have parts, and give you a symbolic middle finger if you complain. Bend over and smile. Sickening.
eBay everyone say hooray for eBay.
I have been waiting on a abs unit from the dealership for 2 yrs now,still on backorder they say 2014 dodge journey with the 2200-49 code /internal failure,,,,abs light on traction control light on and the brake light on.....journey drives and brakes okay just no anti skid braking amovible also with these lights NO cruise control option as well......that said most of the time if i am driving it during the summer the lights come on at first but after driving it a bit, i can stop and shut off the engine and go into a store and then come out right away and then start and take off in the car the lights will stay off and the cruise control will work,,,oh well at least i dont live in a state ( ALABAMA) where we have to have the car inspected so at least i can still drive my journey also i have 160 k on it with the 3.6 engine and they sad fact is i bought the lifetime unlimited miles and yrs warranty on this journey with just a 100. ded. but the dealership wont use used parts even tho the warranty does state in the fine print that the repair parts might be new/remanufactured /used parts for their repair...I also have read that the repair of the ABS unit might can be repaired by cutting it open carefully and resoldering the surface mount components and ground connection but i dont want to try that as long as i can drive the vehicle and also doing so might give the dealership an excuse to void their obligation to do the repair
Most drivers don’t know about ABS and how it works. When they have to slam on the brakes and the brake peddle vibrates they let off.
The government is so worried about the environment with emissions coming out of the tailpipe that you can't pass an inspection with the check engine light on, but how good for environment is all these vehicles being scrapped and thrown out and having to be recycled with enormous amounts of natural gas to melt down and process the materials in a vehicle when you can't get repair parts any longer after 10 years in a lot of cases for cars that would be perfectly good otherwise. Someone needs to do some serious complaining to government to either mandate parts for 20 years or do away with this inspection tag failing because of something like this meanwhile it could be putting out just fine emissions from the tail pipe and not a problem. Or it could have a spacer installed on the 02 sensor to defeat the Catalyst monitor, or better yet a rubber stamp inspection sticker from so many crooked mechanics out there... Honestly something has to give here. Not fair to the consumer AT ALL!