Ohhhhh boy, better to find this out now than to find out the hard way after you went through all the trouble of installing it. Thank you whoever the commenter was!
Hi Steve. I had to get a new flat leather drive belt for my South Bend lathe. Unfortunately I needed to use the lathe right away. So I went and got the one inch leather strips used for making horse and wagon reins. I hand sanded a bevel on both sides like you did, and glued it with "E6000". So far it is holding together well, and I have been running the lathe almost daily for four years. Hope this helps you with your project. E6000 is available at every Home Depot, and lots of hardware stores. Take care Bud
I have the new glue joint ready to test as it has been the 7 days they say... Just have not a lot of time.... I'm in TWO plays right now and having to learn two major parts dialog is on my mind :)
Hi Steve, changed my sanding linishing belt on my belt sander, glued joint failed and nearly hit my face. Tried 2 more and failed, they have been sitting in the cupboard for about 5 years, they must have a shelf life. I reglued them with Loctite 495 super glue and holds up well. Try the Loctite 495 for your leather belt, specs say max gap is 15 thou and 20 second bonding time.
Thank's for the research you are doing. I am having trouble with a 1905 motorcycle leather belt drive water buffalo leather stitched embedded on the drive side.
I know they make leather glue for shoes which seems to work as long as the leather is dry. I suggest using that glue and the stitching. On old wood working equipment the was belt driven they used metal lacing.
Metal laces and stitching are out of the question... The radius of the spindle pulley is only about 1.5 inches. Also they would impart vibration into the work piece as they go around... Basically what I used was leather shoe glue :(
@@10swatkins I agree the stitching would add vibration should they be surface stitched. However there is I tool to cut a small path to embed the stitch below the surface of the leather. Nylon stitching has some flex and is there to give some support to the glue.
Either of those glues should work. The way I use them is apply a light coat let dry until almost dry then apply another coat wait until it feels tacky press the joint together and tap with a light hammer. If you don’t know how to saddle stitch go to a Tandy leather store and ask they sell an excellent tool for cutting that groove I drill the holes with a small drill. Saves some money and works well. They also sell the needles & thread or you can probably get thread from a saddle maker. Yes I know the drill is not the correct way. but it works.
that belt is already pretty thin, groving would make it thinner and the stitching would not be good for surface finish on a grinding machine... Thanks for the tips!
Old school lace it. I use aircraft rib-stitch cord and it holds up fine. EDIT: just read what you mention about vibration, so never mind. But I guess your lap joint needs to be really smooth too, huh?
Barge original should work much better. And you must remember the belts moving being cooled all the time. It I dont think in normal use it will get much more than 100 degrees running.
Steve I do leather work a lot. IVE never had a barge glue joint fail. Specially on a rough side of the leather. Ruff it up with a stiff wire brush it'll help holding power too.
I am going to try out that pilobond (SP) glue and give it a try. Mainly because I have it here and the other glue is 30.00 and a few days away :) Who knows it may be ok too.... Said on the package that it stands up to 200 degrees, flexure and vibrations.....
Only thing I can add is don't tote your phone. When it starts sparking, bouncing and smoking you'll know who watched this video. I would never do such a thing myself!! But I've got a good idea who would/might! GBWYou! And very little glue works on my boots.
You could always stitch it as well as glue .. anyone close by fix shoes . That's the man who will have the good glue .. you had better blame Don ! Is Don still away tom cating ?
@@10swatkins yes if u stich it like a Sadler would . They put a trench in it and stitch it it works well that's how the one on my cylindrical grinder is done . It's about the same size as the one u have .. or look for habistat belts that's what is on my leimen lathe . Fitted it in and glued it up .. both types run extremely smooth . And at high speed
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Well I'm learnin right along with ya! I guess for myself, I'd go on and try the suggestions you got and test them the same way. Thanks for sharing
Going to try out the Pilobond tomorrow! Already paid for it and we might learn of another glue that works!
Ohhhhh boy, better to find this out now than to find out the hard way after you went through all the trouble of installing it.
Thank you whoever the commenter was!
Much better!
Hi Steve.
I had to get a new flat leather drive belt for my South Bend lathe.
Unfortunately I needed to use the lathe right away.
So I went and got the one inch leather strips used for making horse and wagon reins.
I hand sanded a bevel on both sides like you did, and glued it with "E6000".
So far it is holding together well, and I have been running the lathe almost daily for four years.
Hope this helps you with your project.
E6000 is available at every Home Depot, and lots of hardware stores.
Take care Bud
I have the new glue joint ready to test as it has been the 7 days they say... Just have not a lot of time.... I'm in TWO plays right now and having to learn two major parts dialog is on my mind :)
Great work actually testing it out with heat, rather than assuming your commenter was necessarily right or wrong. More educational this way!
It is such a PITA to thread this belt through this old machine I would like to have it right the first time :)
Hi Steve, changed my sanding linishing belt on my belt sander, glued joint failed and nearly hit my face.
Tried 2 more and failed, they have been sitting in the cupboard for about 5 years, they must have a shelf life.
I reglued them with Loctite 495 super glue and holds up well.
Try the Loctite 495 for your leather belt, specs say max gap is 15 thou and 20 second bonding time.
Will do... First off I'm going to try the Pilobond , just my time ;)
Good information thanks
Welcome
Thank's for the research you are doing. I am having trouble with a 1905 motorcycle leather belt drive water buffalo leather stitched embedded on the drive side.
You can do it!
I know they make leather glue for shoes which seems to work as long as the leather is dry. I suggest using that glue and the stitching. On old wood working equipment the was belt driven they used metal lacing.
Metal laces and stitching are out of the question... The radius of the spindle pulley is only about 1.5 inches. Also they would impart vibration into the work piece as they go around... Basically what I used was leather shoe glue :(
@@10swatkins I agree the stitching would add vibration should they be surface stitched. However there is I tool to cut a small path to embed the stitch below the surface of the leather. Nylon stitching has some flex and is there to give some support to the glue.
Good information thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Either of those glues should work. The way I use them is apply a light coat let dry until almost dry then apply another coat wait until it feels tacky press the joint together and tap with a light hammer. If you don’t know how to saddle stitch go to a Tandy leather store and ask they sell an excellent tool for cutting that groove I drill the holes with a small drill. Saves some money and works well. They also sell the needles & thread or you can probably get thread from a saddle maker. Yes I know the drill is not the correct way. but it works.
that belt is already pretty thin, groving would make it thinner and the stitching would not be good for surface finish on a grinding machine... Thanks for the tips!
I think Don already knows. Thanks for the look.
Can't get anything past him :(
Old school lace it. I use aircraft rib-stitch cord and it holds up fine. EDIT: just read what you mention about vibration, so never mind. But I guess your lap joint needs to be really smooth too, huh?
Smooth is the answer.. I am sanding on them now and it will be smooth :)
Check out Keith Rucker's video on making a flat belt: th-cam.com/video/XIINI-HK3f4/w-d-xo.html
Better way than glue!
I’d do it and saw it so you know like so with the machine
Been looking at this comment for 7 days now, and still don't have a clue what hell it means!
Barge original should work much better. And you must remember the belts moving being cooled all the time. It I dont think in normal use it will get much more than 100 degrees running.
Steve I do leather work a lot. IVE never had a barge glue joint fail. Specially on a rough side of the leather. Ruff it up with a stiff wire brush it'll help holding power too.
I am going to try out that pilobond (SP) glue and give it a try. Mainly because I have it here and the other glue is 30.00 and a few days away :) Who knows it may be ok too.... Said on the package that it stands up to 200 degrees, flexure and vibrations.....
Stitch it!
Not on grinders... puts vibration into the finish...
Find someone with a belt laxer and lace the belt. An older machine repair guy or maybe rigger/mill wright.
No laces on grinders. :) .. Imparts vibrations into the surface finish....
Only thing I can add is don't tote your phone. When it starts sparking, bouncing and smoking you'll know who watched this video. I would never do such a thing myself!! But I've got a good idea who would/might! GBWYou! And very little glue works on my boots.
You could always stitch it as well as glue .. anyone close by fix shoes . That's the man who will have the good glue .. you had better blame Don ! Is Don still away tom cating ?
The glue I used was especially made for leather... Just not for hot leather.. No stitching needs to be as smooth as possible.
@@10swatkins yes if u stich it like a Sadler would . They put a trench in it and stitch it it works well that's how the one on my cylindrical grinder is done . It's about the same size as the one u have .. or look for habistat belts that's what is on my leimen lathe . Fitted it in and glued it up .. both types run extremely smooth . And at high speed