Design Cinema - EP 59 - Before and After
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- This video shows some before and after work from our FZD students. It demonstrates the importance of fundamentals. In the latter half of the video, we apply the rules of fundamentals to enhance the existing student designs.
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Actually everyone is absolutely phenomenal in the "after". Oh my god.
Omg hahahahahahhaag
I've been using muscle memory method for years(13 now) and I still can't draw what I want to draw or envisioned to draw without using references. The whole point I took up drawing was to put my ideas onto the damn paper and I haven't been able to do that successfully after all those years. I figured I was doing something wrong but I could never quite find out what it was I was doing wrong. This really opened and changed my whole view on drawing. I can actually do what I set out to do now. Thank you so much.
wow, even their "before" stuff is tons better then what i can do.
This is incredibly useful. It should be a wake up call to a lot of us as well as to what our skill level REALLY is. If you have amateur mistakes in your work, as much as you get defensive about it, an employer will immediately spot them and sniff you out as amateur.
Never be satisfied and always improve
Feng is a real master on his subject, would love to attend his school, but its too expensive for me. But much respect for sharing his wisdom with us for free!
These videos are a great motivation to simply just practice and draw everyday!
Man you are by far my favorite designer your videos always force me to wanna better myself thank you for your video and hope to study at FZD in the future
You my friend have just told me all of my problems I have ever faced with drawing. the last example of students work you showed looks so much like my work now (the before stuff obviously) and look at the after work amazed me. I can see why you are a teacher, if you can explain to me my problem with thinking and work around design in 20 minutes then I really envy the students who get to spend an entire year with you.
I have been talking to my family about honestly trying to get in to FZD.
I can't really explain myself well enough, to tell you how much I value the opportunity the school presents. Also, out of all of the other options, this school is the only place that makes sense for me to try to go to.
This video helps me see where I would need to be to get in. Thank you for that, and I really hope to be in Singapore in a few years.
Now that was probably one of the most useful and enlightening tips i've ever heard on studying art and design.
thanks feng.
This has to be one of the smartest youtube vids iv seen on drawing. Get your kids to watch it if they enjoy drawing\painting.
What I gathered from this was, the knowledge of science and fundamentals of drawing makes the creative idea come to life
the thing about the type of drawing in FZD is that its not about art at all. its about effectively communicating your design, through visual representations. artistically the difference can be arguable, but its the blueprint quality accuracy that strikes. Feng has mentioned many times in his videos that concept clients could care less about the art aspect once you are able to communicate your idea. from there on its speed and design all the way
This was a big confidence boost. Seeing how well your students have progressed has really made me really enthusiastic about the fact that I can do this. It just takes a lot of time, hard work and dedication.
your videos were the biggest factor and inspiration for me deciding to learn to draw. Once my mind was opened up to fundamentals and knowing there is a science behind drawing well, I was on my way. So thanks for taking the time to do these videos
Feng you are an unbelievably inspirational artist, watching your videos makes me feel so much enthusiasm and excitement about art!
I swear to God I am making it my goal to attend your school some day.
When i first commented on this video I had no idea what i was talking about. This is an amazing video thank you very much for it. Completely changed how i am going to go about art from now on to a better way!
+beshjs anyone know a book i can buy that i can learn the fundamentals taught like this? My brother is getting me How to draw by scott robertson, so if that will suffice then please let me know.
I got some old dusty perspective and lightning books. Yeah I always thought they were boring. But now I see the importance in them. Thank you so much for the tip. This is exactly what I and probably many many artist out there struggle with.
Well, that felt like an emotional roller coaster. At the start, I was depressed, and then by the end, I was inspired. I really need to get working on those fundamentals again.
my brother showed me your episode 60 saying it would help me. and after seeing that i wanted to just watch all of your videos. I applied up at MCAD because i want a future in art and i thought that would be a good place to help tone in my talent, and when/if i graduate from there i was thinking that i could go to FZD or something because seeing how much they improved is just mind blowing and makes me want to learn more and more. I have that problem where i see all of these amazing ideas in my head but i cant get it down on the paper, but i can something if im looking at it.
I´ve wached allmost all your videos, some of them a few more times. Can´t get enough of them. Unfortunatelly I don´t have money for your school wich I miss very much, like most of us here I guess, but these videos you´re posting are first of all, enormously inspiring, educational and everithing is explained on a simple and understandable way (fast, but understandable). So please keep on posting, cause there is allways a new trick in each video I could learn!
Thank you M.Zhu !! We missed your videos so muuuuuuuch !!! Can't wait the next one !!! I'm French and if I was rich, I won't hesitate going in US to follow your real masterclasses !! I've found a new GOD... Thank you for giving us enthusiasm and hope. Gwen.
This motivates me to look through my work with a critical eye...
Feng, this is actually unbelievable.
Concept Design is my dream, but sometimes I somehow let it down and forget about the magic of such artworks. But as soon as I watch some of your videos and even if it's just you sketching something, I'm like "WELL GRAB THE TABLET IT'S TIME TO DO SOME PRACTICE!" Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks for taking the time to make and share this. 1000s of people benefit from them.
Feng is right about having a core fundemental. I used to draw with instinct and it can get frustrated sometimes. But by knowing the basic elements you will get more confident and less frustration. It all fits.
can u show some work that was rejected?
This video is so true, before and after... I couldn't understand fully this video the first time I saw it few years ago but now I think I get it, to get the "pro level" you need to study everything with that mindset of drawing in 3D with construction lines etc, don't just reproduce without thinking, understanding is the key.
Man those videos, I could probably come back in 5-10 years and still learn something from it and just tell myself "oh that's what he meant, now I get it"
I was like "Yeah I'm good at copying, now what? How do I do imagination stuff then?", solution is simple : drawing from observation is training eye-hand coordination, proportion colors and stuff, it's more useful for illustration/ paintings, but for design it's more about perspective fundamentals, which is learning geometry of all kinds of objects in order to memorize them. Draw everything in 3D space !! Probably what artists like Kim Jung Gi understood at a very young age to have such a huge visual library.
Great video, but as a complete beginner to drawing, what are the fundamentals? Perspective? Anatomy? Composition? Lighting? What are the best resources for starting to learn these (outside of attending a school)? Any essential books? What kind of exercises should be done? Is there an order to learning this stuff, or should the different aspects all be tackled together?
I'm a guitar teacher, and there is a clear learning path with that, but I find drawing to be quite frustrating in that respect!
I totally agree with Mihailo ,write a book or 6 .We need this content .I'm from the Caribbean and such is needed here.
What an awesome video, such a great practical demonstration of the importance of fundamentals.
Thank you Feng for such a gold advices! you have no idea how those words help a self taught student who wishes enter into the industry!
I have been learning from you since a long time and I just want to thank you!!!
I have been reading books of fundamentals as crazy and I can see true advance, I'm just stucked with the design factor, my visual library is so high school ... But I hope I can improve it! thanks for everything!
Here's a question: To get work, be it a studio gig or free-lance contracting, how is it generally/advised to be done? Do you wait for employers to come to you, or do you approach them? How?
Can't wait for the next vid. I have learned more from TH-cam FZD than anything from classroom teaching.
Wonderful heads up Feng Zhu. The core knowledge is key indeed. Please keep posting videos like these. Thanks from Brazil.
Wow that is very impressive how fast he was able to learn. Your explanation really made an impact on me. I've been learning by reading tons of books and watching videos, and life drawing classes. But I have heard of what you are saying, that once you learn and get down the fundamentals and ways to process visuals, you can draw anything because you learned and understand the steps to get there. I'll be checking out the school website.
your quick sketches were crazy!!!!wow the core stuff really matters!!! thank you so much!!!
This program is gold.
Thanks for the videos. Each video you put up really helps me refine my work. Thanks
one thing different about FZD is the fact the person that owns and promotes the school also 'teaches' at the school. This is hard to find, usually you get a disconnect between the teachers and the founders or owners. Well done Feng. All the best.
Absolutly amazing, everytime I see your videos I get pumped up to pickup photoshop and just go for it, you are really helping a lot of people getting their core fundamentals, me included, I feel I´m still too rigid making concept art but it´s starting to help me on my line of work and get things done faster and in a efficient way.
Another excellent view of real world application - so helpful. Thanks, Feng.
I know you probably get these comments a lot, but I'd like to add to them and say thank you as well Feng Zhu. You're an amazing artist, and I cannot thank you enough for making these video's for us. They are SO inspiring and just filled with your wisdom and great information that's been helping me improve more and more each and every day. Thank you so much for helping me improve not only my skill, but my outlook on improving and getting better itself. :)
I now know that I need to be at the high school level before I apply to FZD lol. Not worried though, since I only started drawing a handful of months ago
You've brought quite a storm here in people hearts, Feng!
At first I was shocked and disappointed thinking "right... so all my hard work, self teaching with great artists books can be compared to high-school drawings... just doodles... I'm useless".
Then I understood - YOU'VE GOT ME OUT OF WRONG PATH of "copying" artists and shown, that - without fundamentals - it can be compared to learning from "1,2,dragon" tutorials, just with "fancy" references:) Thank you for saving a lot of my time!
I'm on the same level as this person. I've been watching your videos for the past couple of years with a yearning for learning how you do what you do. I just graduate with a degree in applied computer graphics, but to be honest, I've gotten just as much out of your videos as I did in any of my college courses. Sadly, I didn't get to focus on a particular subject, rather it was a "learn maya" course, along with a lot of production pipeline exercises.
This video left me floored! OMG!
I genetically color-blind, one of the red-green varieties, and I have to ask, could I ever make it in this industry? I absolutely love to draw and paint, but I fear that the colorblindness would limit my job prospects.
All art schools teach general fundamentals. Like color theory, perspective, anatomy, photography etc. Difference is, Feng's school is a mastery school, or what we call "specialization" in game concept design which is one masteral course for Industrial Design.
What Feng meant by fundamentals, is what is narrowed down for this specialization course only not the general one, and he will teach some workflow that professionals encounter, and these fundamentals are narrowed for game conceptualization
Hello, this' is quite the best tuition i have encountered .. i do not wish to have a career sadly, at nearly 66yrs old i feel i'm far too old. I was discouraged by family from pursuing art which was all i've ever wanted to do. However i was able to sell my work and handmade creations for over 27yrs at shows and taught as well.
Due to members of my family having terminal health issues i completely gave up all creativity. That was a huge mistake, art is who i am and is vital to my wellbeing. I am going to work my way through your lessons and hope to improve significantly. It would've been nice to do your course but i don't have a computer and have only recently acquired a smart phone and discovered you tube. So my selfie would be a dinosaur, lol
So a new chapter begins, i'm very rusty but hope that before long with perserverance i am able to create and mark make with proficiency. So i humbly thank you.
This is dope! I was on the path of drawing the "Muscle" way and not the "Core" way. I also thought of those things as well such as, "if I was given this type of project I would have to research it and draw from scratch." That's totally different from knowing the fundamentals and having an understanding of "how to draw" than just drawing without any of those skills. This is making me love Concept Art more and more because if I didn't start researching this, I would have never found this info out.
I have been learning the wrong way for years. omg why didn't i learn this earlier. thank you very very much.
Thank you for this video Feng, probably the best video you have done in my opinion. Very very helpful!
Hi, Feng! I study fundamentals for couple of years but I there are some difficulties than doesn't allow me to achive the level that was shown by these students. I understand that yo can't cover all the core fundamental in YT videos but I think it would be helpful to highlight couple of things:
1) The order of studying fundamentals. What exactly to study, just basic steps.
2) How much to study each step. Just by showing the example of the result you should achieve on each step.
This might be helpful. This is what after much studying and thinking I have learned:
1) Storytelling/over-arching message or theme you are communicating. What you are saying in the art/design - its purpose.
2) Composition and elements and principles of design
3) Lighting and Shadow
4) Color Theory
5) Perspective and Proportion
6) Anatomy and Gesture of Living Things
I'm taking basic studio art in my school and I thought those before drawings looked pretty good (mostly because I'm not on their level), but after you showed your own take on the drawings, I can actually see what you mean. I hope I can someday master the core fundamentals.
Thanks for the vid Feng!
man, you never fail to amaze me, you're a big inspiration, so a big thank you for your videos and keep on rockin'!
OK, this will now sound pretty agnorant, but I'm so much more confident in my work right now after seeing the before pictures. I would be too ashamed to send in work like that to a school as amazing as FZD. But really great how the work evolved. Very impressive. And good luck to the two guys who are still enrolled! After work looks great.
thanks Feng for your time!
Core fundamentals like anatomy, perspective, lighting, colour theory? Yes in bookstores and they don't come as one book though, it is pricey too. Some for silhouettes, negative space, composition and more advanced fundamentals, are pretty hard to find in print. You might stumble upon it in ImagineFX issues though or google it out. Just a suggestion.
I want to tear my hair out right now.
I'd seriously recommend starting with all of Feng's tutorials at his school's website. I've learned so much from them and I'm a 7 year animation veteran whose broken his wallet on expensive schooling already.
It's actually more like a couple of years of hardcore intensive work. His main point was to get all of the drudgery out of the way, build up your skill as quickly as possible (not easily keep in mind), and then you can prosper later on.
IE. No friends, no games, no movies, no entertainment. Live and breath your learning.
Thank you for thease videos Feng, you're an awesome person!
Very informative. I knew something was wrong with the way I was learning. Thanks a bunch!
Hey Feng, how do you go about teaching perspective? Are there any books you would recommend for it? You're ability to quickly plot some points and have the angle you had in mind is something I'm struggling with and very much would like to get a hang of. Thanks so much for design cinema it's helped so much :)
search on your own is the best advice i believe. the internet is huge and if you REALLY want these fundamentals you won't have to bust your ass that much. in one week you'll be loaded with information. best of luck
Amazing tutorial. Thanks for the generosity with skill and information sharing!! Very good teacher.
From what i have seen in the student gallery at the FZD site,
the range of things they work on is enormous.
Go to fzdschool , then to Student Gallery.
Andrea Susini's work is absolutely phenomenal after your school. What a motivation for us amateurs watching...
Nobody saw your comment from 8 years ago.... I got you :)
Also, YOU ARE NOT AN AMATEUR. be QUIET while I go and hide in a corner
Observing objects in my daily life have been helping a bunch in getting my ideas.out
This video particularly resonated with me.....i've always been into scfi drawing and my problem was for years i've been doing the high school approach, repetition and when i wanted to move onto something else it would take me weeks of frustration to draw something 50% close to what i envisioned. Back to the drawing board i guess.
Excelente, sin palabras!.... Great job!
In my opinion, the core fundamentals include drawing in
perspective the basic forms - cubes, cylinders, cones and spheres and rendering them correctly depending on lighting and material they are made of.
By mastering that, building and rendering complex forms like vehicles, houses, characters etc becomes easier - if you look at the complex forms
being made of the basic ones.
I can recommend all Scott Robertson's GNOMON DVD's:
"Basic Perspective Form Drawing" covers basics of 1pt, 2pt and 3pt perspective, squares, boxes, multiplying lengths, ellipses, shape mirroring in perspective and basic form building methods.
In his "How to draw Cars/Airplanes/Hovercraft/Spacecraft" DVD's
he puts the above basic strategies in practice by drawing the
mentioned vehicles.
"How to render Matte Surfaces" - planar, curved and complex shapes
rendered in various lighting scenarios.
I wish I could draw those "high-school" drawings...
fun starts in 24:00
thank you for this video. you... inspired me.
Those "amature" drawings are better than all of mine...
Absolutely. But it requires a lot of time and even more effort... and yet *even* more patience. Part of what jumpstarts these amateur artists to where they are is that they had some motivation (often in the form of encouragement) or something that made them do it when they're young... becomes a cycle of improvement and self encouragement... Of course, you can do that now too, but your visual library will need a lot of catching up.
This episode helps a lot thanks for spending your time
Thank you so much Feng, this lifted alot of frustration of my shoulders and answered alot of questions. See you in the future :)
Assign a button on your keyboard to flip layer and flip canvas. This will let you see if your drawing is tending to the left or right. It's very useful especially when working with very familiar things like faces where you will not see the slant because you've been looking for so long. Flipping things gives you a fresh perspective.
If that's not what you mean, you may just have to rotate your tablet which ever way to take out that slant in your wrist...
"Draw by eye is so scary"... You have put into words an issue I´ve been strugling with for the last years...
Hey Feng! I'm 13 and i watched all your episodes. I'm applying for an arts high-school and I want to be a concept designer like you! Thanks for another episode :D
How are you doing now?
perspective:"Vanishing point" ,composition: Framed ink,
Mastering Composition: Techniques and Principles to Dramatically Improve Your Painting
Anatomy: all of Andrew Loomis books and all of George Bridgman's books.
Also: "Figure drawing:design and invention" is great.
Lighting and color: "imaginative realism" and "Color and light" by James Gurney.
Good luck!
Man fudge cake that! Let it motivate you! I just found out I was drawing the "hard way" smh. I never went to school for art until I turned 25 and that was just a community college for a year( it really wasn't center towards anything sighs) but I was never really shown how to draw 3D shapes and make forms from them. I do understand you though because those kids before drawings are way past my level right now but man, I'm determine to have a career in Concept Art, so back to the drawing board lol.
great progress for just a 6 months, also great video, would love to see some more of these (student related videos)
Thank you for these videos, they are really information and motivational!
awesome work, especially the part he shows how to improve student's work, very useful!
i gotta give credit to the before pics. they all had great potential, especially evidenced by the professional renditions
This is quite interesting. Mainly because the construction method the school teaches doesn't seem to require as much approximation of proportion as say, Peter Han.
Hmm, so the understanding of the spacial, colour, and lighting properties of an object is more important than having drawing it 100 times. Take THAT high school art teachers!
This sure does make me want to go to your school. Amazing stuff, really inspiring.
Feng, are you ever thinking of offering an online class?
This video provided me the answer that I needed, at last I will go further ! Thank you FZD ! :D
I found a guy in America Scott Robertson and he is amazing . I just pre-order his foundation book to perspective.
Simply awesome!!!
the way that'd save you some time is to start on things that can be build on later as a foundation, example like study drawing to represent form first, then study how you can add tone and how it works, and when tone is there how to do color would be easier.
Don't get me wrong, I felt kinda crushed too when I first watched this video, but after repeated viewings, watching more of the FZD videos, and spending a bunch of time reading about and practicing those boring basics, I'm having a lot more fun and gaining confidence that I could actually work in concept art or illustration someday.
This is a fantastic video and a huge eye opener for me. Suddenly I can see why my art has never progressed over the years. I really need to learn the fundamentals! Unfortunately attending a school isn't an option for me but could you point me in the direction of a good online course that would teach me the fundamentals and how to correctly apply them? I've heard of CGMA but can't tell if it would be worth while. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.
Fantastic advice, and fantastic art!
again, great video feng, thank you so much.
Can you talk more about the different types of lenses and how they change the way perspective looks? I found that be very fascinating. Thanks.