When you wonder why Eric took 10 years developing Stardew Valley you find videos like this one... How in the world did bro construct a whole RELIGION for his FARMING GAME????
If you think a single religion is an impressive amount of world building for an indie game, I invite you to look into the absurdly complex world of dwarf fortress.
Are we sure that Yoba is the *only* religion in tardew Valley's world, though? It's the only one depicted, but there are other nations (such as the Gotoro Empire, which is the enemy nation in the war that Kent was fighting in), and maybe their culture (and religion) is very different.
I can very easily see Eastern versions of Junimos and Shinto based nature worship. Holy trees, divine wood for tools, and particular animals treated as sacred messengers.
Excellent video! My personal theory is that Yoba is specifically a sun god, or maybe even a personification of the sun itself. There are a number of things that point this. Obviously yellow/gold, the color most associated with Yoba, is also the same color most associated with sunlight. Less obvious is that the Book of Yoba refers to Yoba as "golden light," and in the creation story, that light is presumably what allows the seed to sprout, reinforcing the idea that it's meant to be sunlight. Plus, the Yoba Shirt is created by tailoring Solar Essence. My favorite point of evidence is that plaque you mentioned at the forge on Ginger Island. The forge and that plaque are remnants of an ancient dwarven civilization, but the dwarves we meet in-game never mention Yoba at all, so it's curious that the symbol would appear on the plaque. Notably though, a book in the museum called "Mysteries of the Dwarves" posits that an advanced alien civilization that eventually became the dwarves crash landed on the planet and was driven underground because they "simply could not survive in our sunlight." Not only does this suggest that the Yoba symbol on that plaque could be the ancient dwarves depicting the sun that drove them underground, but it could also imply that Yoba is not seen as a benevolent god by everyone since the ancient dwarves would have seen it as a threat to their survival. Them disliking Yoba could even have been a contributing factor in the war between dwarves and shadow people, since the shadow people apparently do worship Yoba if Krobus is any indication. Food for thought, anyway. Thanks for awakening my theorycrafting brain, haha. I love this stuff!
If Yoba is a sun god, I wonder how this would affect the religious beliefs of Krobus and other shadow people, since apparently they are harmed by direct sunlight.
@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus Maybe it’s something along the lines of direct exposure to a god being too much for them to handle. Or maybe they see Yoba differently, which would also explain why Krobus’ religious practice - staying silent on Fridays - is completely different to everyone else’s
1:57 actually, in hungarian tomato is called "paradicsom" which also means paradise (thus it could also technically mean garden of eden, but i think thats a bit of a far fetch) Do with that what you will, just thought i should share it
I never knew about the note on George and Evelyn's night stand! I love that I've played so much of Stardew Valley, and I didn't know about most of this.
So the religion in Stardew Valley is built around player convenience, much like the religion for most D&D games. In that, I mean that in D&D games, the gods tend to be built around cleric subclasses whereas in Stardew Valley, the featured god was built around farming (or general earth and fertility worship)
Great video! I love it when games and religion come together! I think that the Yoba having both Christian and pagan elements is no accident: syncretism is when religions adopt or blend beliefs from each other. For example, in its early days and during its global expansion, Christianity adopted many pagan beliefs and this made it easier for outsiders to convert.
Wonder if the next game will have Yoba references in it as well. With it in mind that the "sin" of this game being going against the planet's wishes, it would be weird to find out that a link to The Haunted Chocolatier is their world's "devil" is an avaricious Willy Wonka-esque character hellbent on unethical, unsustainable, soulless mass production.
While I agree that Yoba is a major part of Stardew valley, I don't think as many people are religious as we think. George - Don't think so. He visits the altar, but does say: "I've never been religious, but hey, I'm old". Although, if you marry Alex as a male, he does say it's unnatural, implying he might have an idea of what sin is. My guess is he's agnostic. (believing in Yoba, but not necessarily worshipping or following him) Robin and Demetrius I think just say "thank Yoba" similar to how atheists say "oh my god". I think Emily, as much as I love her, is one of those obnoxious religious nutjobs that would try to convert everyone. She says "may Yoba bless you" to her partner when married, talks about positive and negative energy almost constantly, and when taken to a movie she dislikes, says: "Yoba, please protect me from the dark energy of this movie." Jodi is, but I think it's less for worship and more out of fear - I think she prays to Yoba strictly for Kent's safety. Lewis and grandpa I think are, cause of the vessels in their home. And I think player is or isn't, depending on how you play the game. Side note; comparing it to Christianity, if Yoba is God, then I like to think that the Junimos are Yoba's little angels :]
bullshit joke aside, i cant count the number of times i had people shut me up in some form cause i just go on and on about it last one was rainworld, bestie from highschool literally slapped a hand over my mouth cause i wouldnt shut up about rainworld.
Im new to the channel, thinking of starting mine own! I just had a question for you. Do you listen back to your own audio or just wing it? Because I did a test record with my own voice and I cant stand it! I went bright red thinking how embarrassing it feels to listen to yourself talk. Do you have any tips for this?
As someone who's been making vids for 10 years now, you'll get over it. Trust me, you're way more critical of your voice than anyone else. When you look in the mirror what do you think? That's me, right? When people see you in the street, they don't think that, you're just another person. Sometimes, insignificance is a good thing. Same holds for your voice. Work with it. Settle with it. Everyone who edits their vids has to listen to hours upon hours if their voice. Sometimes I listen to a take I did, and just repeat that in a mocking voice. Don't worry too much, you'll be fine
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When you wonder why Eric took 10 years developing Stardew Valley you find videos like this one... How in the world did bro construct a whole RELIGION for his FARMING GAME????
If you think a single religion is an impressive amount of world building for an indie game, I invite you to look into the absurdly complex world of dwarf fortress.
Are we sure that Yoba is the *only* religion in tardew Valley's world, though? It's the only one depicted, but there are other nations (such as the Gotoro Empire, which is the enemy nation in the war that Kent was fighting in), and maybe their culture (and religion) is very different.
I can very easily see Eastern versions of Junimos and Shinto based nature worship. Holy trees, divine wood for tools, and particular animals treated as sacred messengers.
Excellent video! My personal theory is that Yoba is specifically a sun god, or maybe even a personification of the sun itself. There are a number of things that point this. Obviously yellow/gold, the color most associated with Yoba, is also the same color most associated with sunlight. Less obvious is that the Book of Yoba refers to Yoba as "golden light," and in the creation story, that light is presumably what allows the seed to sprout, reinforcing the idea that it's meant to be sunlight. Plus, the Yoba Shirt is created by tailoring Solar Essence.
My favorite point of evidence is that plaque you mentioned at the forge on Ginger Island. The forge and that plaque are remnants of an ancient dwarven civilization, but the dwarves we meet in-game never mention Yoba at all, so it's curious that the symbol would appear on the plaque. Notably though, a book in the museum called "Mysteries of the Dwarves" posits that an advanced alien civilization that eventually became the dwarves crash landed on the planet and was driven underground because they "simply could not survive in our sunlight." Not only does this suggest that the Yoba symbol on that plaque could be the ancient dwarves depicting the sun that drove them underground, but it could also imply that Yoba is not seen as a benevolent god by everyone since the ancient dwarves would have seen it as a threat to their survival. Them disliking Yoba could even have been a contributing factor in the war between dwarves and shadow people, since the shadow people apparently do worship Yoba if Krobus is any indication.
Food for thought, anyway. Thanks for awakening my theorycrafting brain, haha. I love this stuff!
If Yoba is a sun god, I wonder how this would affect the religious beliefs of Krobus and other shadow people, since apparently they are harmed by direct sunlight.
@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus Maybe it’s something along the lines of direct exposure to a god being too much for them to handle. Or maybe they see Yoba differently, which would also explain why Krobus’ religious practice - staying silent on Fridays - is completely different to everyone else’s
1:57 actually, in hungarian tomato is called "paradicsom" which also means paradise (thus it could also technically mean garden of eden, but i think thats a bit of a far fetch)
Do with that what you will, just thought i should share it
I never knew about the note on George and Evelyn's night stand! I love that I've played so much of Stardew Valley, and I didn't know about most of this.
Demitrius def using Yoba's name in vain
@@wildernns LMAO
"There is only one religion in Stardew Valley"
Sure, but have you heard the good news about Joja Corp?
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THRIVE
"Stardew valley was made by one person" - don't forget the most important developer and the real hero, his wife
Concerned Ape is the Tolkien of mayonnaise salesman simulators
I really really appreciate you putting little disclaimers like 3:19
Just goes to show your kindness
The real question is how does Yoba all tie to my mecha Shane headcannon?
Okay.
Imma need you to explain this in great detail.
I actually explain it in depth in the comments of the stardew valley economy video that juniper posted a while back@kaydubsthekoifish
@@BU-FL I see.
Guess I gotta check out that one then.
Stardew Valley is one of those Games that just keeps giving.
Terrible game. Very boring and overpraised.
10:25 "... a game that came out nearly 10 years ago."
That can't be.
*frantically consults Google*
Jesus Christ I'm old.
You got such a good voice for youtube or anything related
@@blrwllm4357 Thank you!
After seeing the Economy video, and now this one. We'll. Clearly your tism is pure and I must subscribe. Onward.
This is my new favorite comment ever
@JuniperDev feel like I should apologize. But I aint. Onward nerd onward.
So the religion in Stardew Valley is built around player convenience, much like the religion for most D&D games. In that, I mean that in D&D games, the gods tend to be built around cleric subclasses whereas in Stardew Valley, the featured god was built around farming (or general earth and fertility worship)
This felt like an Any Austin video in all the best ways. The style of chill, niche deep-dives is sweet as hell.
Tomato = Pomodoro = Golden Pome. All that golden light transforms into a golden fruit-it makes perfect sense to me. 🙌🍅🙌
perfect video for me now, coming back to play stardew after a break
I'm sorry ICANT take this seriously, in Russian "yoba" (ёба) is a swear word and an early 2010s meme (YOBA-face) lmaoo
Great video! I love it when games and religion come together! I think that the Yoba having both Christian and pagan elements is no accident: syncretism is when religions adopt or blend beliefs from each other. For example, in its early days and during its global expansion, Christianity adopted many pagan beliefs and this made it easier for outsiders to convert.
Thanks for explaining something I was somewhat curious about in more detail than I'd ask for :3
You remind me of the guy who made "where does skyrim's rivers come from"
I like nerdy videos like this
Huge fan of this channel!
Wonder if the next game will have Yoba references in it as well.
With it in mind that the "sin" of this game being going against the planet's wishes, it would be weird to find out that a link to The Haunted Chocolatier is their world's "devil" is an avaricious Willy Wonka-esque character hellbent on unethical, unsustainable, soulless mass production.
While I agree that Yoba is a major part of Stardew valley, I don't think as many people are religious as we think.
George - Don't think so. He visits the altar, but does say: "I've never been religious, but hey, I'm old". Although, if you marry Alex as a male, he does say it's unnatural, implying he might have an idea of what sin is. My guess is he's agnostic. (believing in Yoba, but not necessarily worshipping or following him)
Robin and Demetrius I think just say "thank Yoba" similar to how atheists say "oh my god".
I think Emily, as much as I love her, is one of those obnoxious religious nutjobs that would try to convert everyone. She says "may Yoba bless you" to her partner when married, talks about positive and negative energy almost constantly, and when taken to a movie she dislikes, says: "Yoba, please protect me from the dark energy of this movie."
Jodi is, but I think it's less for worship and more out of fear - I think she prays to Yoba strictly for Kent's safety. Lewis and grandpa I think are, cause of the vessels in their home.
And I think player is or isn't, depending on how you play the game.
Side note; comparing it to Christianity, if Yoba is God, then I like to think that the Junimos are Yoba's little angels :]
This is perhaps a very superficial observation as someone who has like 2 hours in Stardew Valley, but "Yoba" kind of sounds like "Joja". That is all
Hey hey! I was wondering if Gamemaker had reached out to you as well... :)
@@OandCoGames Yesss I've done a lot of work with them by now, super cool company (: Sounds like you are as well, good luck!!
Lmao it was hilarious how you just shrunk away at the end
Who's to say the planet SV takes place on isn't in fact a giant tomato? How dare you!
what if instead of juniper dev it was juniper developer?
man yeah, what if
10:21 same
10:24 okay so we had different ideas but still, same
bullshit joke aside, i cant count the number of times i had people shut me up in some form cause i just go on and on about it
last one was rainworld, bestie from highschool literally slapped a hand over my mouth cause i wouldnt shut up about rainworld.
I don't even play the game, great presentation!
Also I wish wouldn't have any more wars...
Im new to the channel, thinking of starting mine own! I just had a question for you. Do you listen back to your own audio or just wing it? Because I did a test record with my own voice and I cant stand it! I went bright red thinking how embarrassing it feels to listen to yourself talk. Do you have any tips for this?
As someone who's been making vids for 10 years now, you'll get over it. Trust me, you're way more critical of your voice than anyone else. When you look in the mirror what do you think? That's me, right? When people see you in the street, they don't think that, you're just another person. Sometimes, insignificance is a good thing.
Same holds for your voice. Work with it. Settle with it. Everyone who edits their vids has to listen to hours upon hours if their voice. Sometimes I listen to a take I did, and just repeat that in a mocking voice. Don't worry too much, you'll be fine
@@adityakhanna113 Thanks mate! I needed to hear that. My Birthday is coming up so ill ask the family for a good mic. Do you have any suggestions?
Thank Yoba 🤘
Anticapitalist propaganda? I'm a fan ❤
YOBA ‼️
Biden yelling 'Yoba' took me out
Kifflom
Yoba!
Y-O-B-A Yoba!
Yo-Yo-Yo-Yo-Yoba!
yoba(ный в рот)
Yoba sounds like a mediocre product that youtubers get a fuck ton of sponsorships with
@@0.0.0.04 some protein supplement
SODAA
Yooooooo
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Second! 😅
The game is really bad. Incredibly boring. Glorified walking simulator. Way overpraised.
It's a Farming Simulator, what did you expect?
...Then don't play it? Nobody's forcing you to play the game, or watch related content 🙏