Labour are the party of the professional managerial class. It's ideology is the belief in the administrative state. It's a flawed ideology because it tries to work with its own narrow frame work, as it refuses to even question those confines. I prefer to refer to it as "managed decline".
But they are not the “party of the people” any more. Labour are the party of the elites,Davos crowd ( Starmer said so in interview with Maitless) and not the working class despite Starmer keep saying they are for hard working people. ( what about the non working people? Carers, students, retired pensioners, unemployed etc).
I am afraid your guest lost me when she confessed to being a Blairite. Seriously?. I mean it was Blair who set Labour on its present disastrous path. Dear God Spiked, why did you not pick her up on this?
I think quite a few latter-day Spiked columnists are at odds with most Spiked veterans, on a large number of issues, demonstrating their strengths in particular - sometimes, key - areas, but critically weaker in general.
You wouldn't fall into these traps if you truly believed in the politics you espoused. On that basis it becomes clearer by the day that Starmer is no more than a puppet.
What halo would that be? For some decades now Labour has been just as sleazy, if not more so, than the Tories and all the others. One of the Tory blaggers did at least have a duck house built, which was probably quite nice and of benefit to ducks.
Just wait until Lammy gleefully gloats about the coming 'reset' of relations with the EU. As Brussels got pretty much everything they wanted from the TCA/WF, I dread to think what any new agreement would entail.
What should worry the British people in general and Labour supporters in particular is that it is impossible to imagine how this country or this governments comes back from here. People may win a lottery but countries and their governments don't. This government have in just a matter of weeks destroyed the peoples confidence in a better future, if not also in any future whatsoever. Almost overnight an entire generation have suddenly realised that they have been used up and are being spat out again like Boxer in 1984. They may not have expected much but freezing to death while lonely and afraid was not in their worst calculations. Their children will observe and wonder what they are paying their taxes for. This could mark the end of the entire welfare system, which IMO is what this particular policy, that of mass immigration, all things Covid and many other policies are designed to do. How indeed could they result in anything else? They don't want old people pointlessly and expensively hanging around clogging up the system therefore they want them gone ASAP, and not so they can save a few bob on their winter fuel allowance. Getting shot of an old retired person ten years earlier holds massive potential savings and extra income to the exchequer. To be honest I would have thought that this was extremely obvious. Not exactly Blade Runner, but getting closer one step at a time. Not only will the peasants wonder why they pay taxes but what is the point of a British State if it no longer wishes to look after its old people? Why even bother voting in elections when there is nothing to vote for? Why support any country or system when they only take but have nothing to give other then exploitation, wars, regulations, taxes, fines and an early death? With the end of the British welfare system eventually comes the end of the British Nation as we have come to know it. Slaves make even worse workers then they do soldiers, therefore our economy can only go in a downward direction leading to even more savage cuts in the not so distant future. I suggest that within 10 years only reasonably healthy people under the age of 65 will still be entitled to free NHS treatment. Although I trust the morphine, shroud and quick cremation will be complimentary or at least discounted. It will be every man and women for themselves, as in truth it has long since been. Starmer is setting a leading example of this very old way of thinking. Perhaps ironically the people of China are now learning an even more horrific lesson of quite how much the peasant classes can't trust their political or elite class or any political, economic or ideological system the run or promote to give a crap about them as fellow human beings. Elites simply can't think any other way as this is what defines them as such. They only allow us to breed never mind flourish when it suits then to do so, when not they cull us off like annoying insects. Welcome back my friends to the Feudalistic Show that never ends.
No I am sorry but what the BBC states does influence the majority of people. I have had major arguments where people dismiss me because the BBC and UN say contrary to me. I believed the IRA were responsible for Bloody Sunday because the way it was reported at the time. Yazidi women are side lined by an east London teenager who joined ISIS because how the BBC report things.
@jwithington9347 At one time, the BBC could be fairly relied on for accurate, unbiased reporting. Unfortunately, now, those who end up working for the corporation nearly all share the same mindset. That of mostly middle-class, university educated, identity politics obsessed, EU loving, Metropolitan elites. In fact, it is very much like a majority of the modern Labour Party. Further, they all appear to despise Britain, its history, and its still mainly white population. Bashing Brits and Britain is now almost an essential requirement for those who might seek employment with them.
@christinerussell113 plebophobia and the BBC are good friends. R4 on occasion does produce to very good documentaries but that is the grain within the chaff
@@christinerussell113 very well put, they might as well be an arm of the labour party and EU as they failed to hide their glee whenever anything goes in favour of the two. The guardian is even used for recruitment the bbc
They shouldn't get any. Any other public servant has to refuse gifts/freebies of significant value, declare everything & often share with their team (eg a box of chocolates)
Once symbiotic in a free capitalist democracy, however, they’re pretty much parasitic. Just how does debt, the only base product of a bank, make wealth, unless it’s used to capitalise efficiency in production processes. No way will a bank champion manufacturing, they are besotted with property.
New term from American child psychologist, Elliot Kaminetsky, Identity-Based Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. Instead of g--- dysphoria--. Makes much more sense.
moving house is second only to marriage as the most stressful things Humans do. So Starmer does the most stressful thing a family can do to reduce stress on his kids. Does not pass the smell test.
Thanks for the continuous update! I am super excited about how I got retired at the age of 57, earning more income. I am now able to afford anything for my family even with my Retirement. 47k weekly returns has been life changing, after so much struggles.
Giving her my initial savings of $15,000 to invest in a brokerage account was a turning point in my life less 7days. It's been an incredibly rewarding experience…
Honestly she really took up too much time back tracking and correcting every 2 mins. Had to turn this off before screaming at the top of my lungs, ‘get to the point!’.
Wasn’t it obvious to all….it was to me and some others…what Starmer was ? Your guest “despises” Corbyn but doesn’t tell us why apart from she thinks he might smell. Is it that he was a socialist and old Labour unlike her mate Blair ? Guess we’ll never know.
Gender dysphoria is not a known disorder...it was changed from gender identity disorder by 9 people for the DSM5 (!). You can Google that! Often people wanting to escape their own body has many causes. CSA, autism and same sex attraction (internalised homophobia or family/peer disapproval of such). Affirmation of this is not helpful. Acceptance does not make real the idea of gender dysphoria...more like body dystopia. Its not a given that everyone is in agreement with your position on this subject. Just saying....
Come on guys .... no 1 takes there kid out of there home in the middle of there exams 😅 Old Qeer Kia was not living at home he was Playing hide the Sausage with his millionaire M8 in his 18million £ flat 😮 It will all come out soon whatever it is the ordinary public cam smell the dead rat 🐀
Wow, probably right about labour,who cares tories were horrible, surprising the other mob are horrible. So blind on Israel, who it seems havent killed 1000s of children in Gaza, oh but they do "try" not to. You can go back for generations of tit for tat between pre Israel zionism and the various Arab actors over the years. Butvright now for the people in Gaza this is irrellevant, these people here ignore the whole UN 2 state resolutions and the 1967 borders, Israel have ignored this for generations. And given that, the anti Israel forces have a genuine point of disatisfaction. Its not anti semitism to point this out,many non zionist Jewish people point this out, are they antisemetic? This shows highly biased and 1 sided views smell of an influence operation or just credulous stupidity. What it isnt is an honest even handed view of the middle east
Anti Zionism is anti semitism because it is the belief that Israel is an illegitimate state and only Israel does not have the right to exist even though under "muh international law" it is a recognised nation Criticism of Israeli policy is not anti Zionism If Israel is expected to allow themselves killed just because we want to appease jihadists who want to kill them for being Jews, that is antisemitism because no other country is asked to do that
My opinion is that they are blind on israel, based on their very selective use of events and perspectives. If they can find no fault innisraels actions and only fault in the palestinians, then yes they are in my mind blind,biased and or bought off.
Boxer the horse worked hard for Animal Farm. When he couldn’t, they sold him for glue.
New labour
Labour are the party of the professional managerial class. It's ideology is the belief in the administrative state. It's a flawed ideology because it tries to work with its own narrow frame work, as it refuses to even question those confines. I prefer to refer to it as "managed decline".
Labour lost its 'halo' when it turned its back on what was its core voter. Any Union Member who still pays the Political Levy needs to reconsider.
It was 4 years into his premiership that Gordon Brown became the subject of ridicule. Starmer’s achieving that very early in the parliamentary cycle.
Gordon Brown was PM for less than 3 years.
But they are not the “party of the people” any more. Labour are the party of the elites,Davos crowd ( Starmer said so in interview with Maitless) and not the working class despite Starmer keep saying they are for hard working people. ( what about the non working people? Carers, students, retired pensioners, unemployed etc).
Hard working people in a Fabians mind means, hard working slave.
I'm starting to feel like a sausage to Starmer's whims.
Yup, millions sausages in Starmers UK.
Endless sausages.
@@Slumbertand his lil chipolata
Another top guest - a proud Blairite who supported lockdowns.
I am afraid your guest lost me when she confessed to being a Blairite. Seriously?. I mean it was Blair who set Labour on its present disastrous path. Dear God Spiked, why did you not pick her up on this?
I think quite a few latter-day Spiked columnists are at odds with most Spiked veterans, on a large number of issues, demonstrating their strengths in particular - sometimes, key - areas, but critically weaker in general.
Idea for video
Denmark just started building prison in Kosovo for foreign hard criminals.
Our lot will probably build a prison in Norfolk for Kosovan criminals, for we are governed by the most heinous of morons.
hardly fair fo Kosovians.
They have shown what can be done if you care about your own people, neither Labour or Tories care at all.
Can this woman not articulate a point in a few words Jesus
Her analysis is about as sharp as a balloon.
Bring back Ella Whelan please!
She’s speaking American, rather than English! (She’s unlistenable to!)
"The West _Literally_ has its knickers in a twist."
You wouldn't fall into these traps if you truly believed in the politics you espoused. On that basis it becomes clearer by the day that Starmer is no more than a puppet.
What is startling is Labour Party has shown itself NOT to be the Party for the working man afterall! This lot are appalling!
It never had if only people would engage their brains, Come to Merseyside where corruption has been endemic since the 80s!!!!
What halo would that be? For some decades now Labour has been just as sleazy, if not more so, than the Tories and all the others. One of the Tory blaggers did at least have a duck house built, which was probably quite nice and of benefit to ducks.
That was claims, not "GIFTS"
The Labour Party lost its working class halo when Blair became Party leader.
Just wait until Lammy gleefully gloats about the coming 'reset' of relations with the EU. As Brussels got pretty much everything they wanted from the TCA/WF, I dread to think what any new agreement would entail.
You forgot to say he( Lam) would mention in the first minute he was black and was from slave stock.
What should worry the British people in general and Labour supporters in particular is that it is impossible to imagine how this country or this governments comes back from here.
People may win a lottery but countries and their governments don't. This government have in just a matter of weeks destroyed the peoples confidence in a better future, if not also in any future whatsoever. Almost overnight an entire generation have suddenly realised that they have been used up and are being spat out again like Boxer in 1984.
They may not have expected much but freezing to death while lonely and afraid was not in their worst calculations.
Their children will observe and wonder what they are paying their taxes for. This could mark the end of the entire welfare system, which IMO is what this particular policy, that of mass immigration, all things Covid and many other policies are designed to do. How indeed could they result in anything else?
They don't want old people pointlessly and expensively hanging around clogging up the system therefore they want them gone ASAP, and not so they can save a few bob on their winter fuel allowance. Getting shot of an old retired person ten years earlier holds massive potential savings and extra income to the exchequer.
To be honest I would have thought that this was extremely obvious. Not exactly Blade Runner, but getting closer one step at a time.
Not only will the peasants wonder why they pay taxes but what is the point of a British State if it no longer wishes to look after its old people? Why even bother voting in elections when there is nothing to vote for? Why support any country or system when they only take but have nothing to give other then exploitation, wars, regulations, taxes, fines and an early death?
With the end of the British welfare system eventually comes the end of the British Nation as we have come to know it. Slaves make even worse workers then they do soldiers, therefore our economy can only go in a downward direction leading to even more savage cuts in the not so distant future. I suggest that within 10 years only reasonably healthy people under the age of 65 will still be entitled to free NHS treatment. Although I trust the morphine, shroud and quick cremation will be complimentary or at least discounted.
It will be every man and women for themselves, as in truth it has long since been. Starmer is setting a leading example of this very old way of thinking. Perhaps ironically the people of China are now learning an even more horrific lesson of quite how much the peasant classes can't trust their political or elite class or any political, economic or ideological system the run or promote to give a crap about them as fellow human beings. Elites simply can't think any other way as this is what defines them as such.
They only allow us to breed never mind flourish when it suits then to do so, when not they cull us off like annoying insects.
Welcome back my friends to the Feudalistic Show that never ends.
12:30 HOLD UP. American here. You guys are telling me that you made David Lammy the Foreign Secretary of the United Kingdom?!🤣God save the King!
No I am sorry but what the BBC states does influence the majority of people. I have had major arguments where people dismiss me because the BBC and UN say contrary to me. I believed the IRA were responsible for Bloody Sunday because the way it was reported at the time. Yazidi women are side lined by an east London teenager who joined ISIS because how the BBC report things.
Except BBC audience numbers have been going down the pan, along with its credibility.
I have had similar issues from family members as they take anything the BBC says as gospel
@jwithington9347 At one time, the BBC could be fairly relied on for accurate, unbiased reporting. Unfortunately, now, those who end up working for the corporation nearly all share the same mindset. That of mostly middle-class, university educated, identity politics obsessed, EU loving, Metropolitan elites. In fact, it is very much like a majority of the modern Labour Party. Further, they all appear to despise Britain, its history, and its still mainly white population. Bashing Brits and Britain is now almost an essential requirement for those who might seek employment with them.
@christinerussell113 plebophobia and the BBC are good friends. R4 on occasion does produce to very good documentaries but that is the grain within the chaff
@@christinerussell113 very well put, they might as well be an arm of the labour party and EU as they failed to hide their glee whenever anything goes in favour of the two. The guardian is even used for recruitment the bbc
That woman has made my hangover worse.
Unsubscribed after the poor reporting on the riots, checking back in to see how it’s going. See you again in a few months.
I don't think many were surprised that politicians get freebies, but I think the extent of it was crazy.
They shouldn't get any. Any other public servant has to refuse gifts/freebies of significant value, declare everything & often share with their team (eg a box of chocolates)
No beer, free gear, two tier Keir granny harmer Starmer
I don't remember hearing that the BBC always reported Joseph Goebbels side of every issue during WW2. Things are very different at the BBC these says.
This woman really thinks once the nuclear dust settles from Putin's bombs that it's the financers we'll all be depending on. Give me strength.
"If they are the party of the proletariat..." Oh my aching sides.
That woman is tough going...
So sausage..... so sausage...
Someone tell queerkeir Kylie is touring next year. Book his freebies early.
He can take his boyfriend Alli along.
This woman is wonderful!
She lost me at "pro lockdowns"
Tom Slater is kindoff cute. I'm not a fan of Zoe Strimpel. She is imho awful and by her own words a very nasty person
Does he pay for his sausage 😂😂😂😂
Words can be sausages to fortune as no doubt Two Tier, Free Gear, Curry and Beer Starmer is finding out.
few people associate bankers with creation of wealth for woking people. interesting perspective.
Once symbiotic in a free capitalist democracy, however, they’re pretty much parasitic. Just how does debt, the only base product of a bank, make wealth, unless it’s used to capitalise efficiency in production processes. No way will a bank champion manufacturing, they are besotted with property.
I don't understand why people are so shocked by liebour, I mean socialists are going to socialist 🤷♂️.
They should call themselves the Antisocialist Party. It would be more honest.
You'd have to pay me far more than two grand to watch Taylor Swift
I'd pay not to go.
New term from American child psychologist, Elliot Kaminetsky, Identity-Based Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. Instead of g--- dysphoria--. Makes much more sense.
moving house is second only to marriage as the most stressful things Humans do. So Starmer does the most stressful thing a family can do to reduce stress on his kids. Does not pass the smell test.
Time stamps please
Lord Alli has far too much involvement in this Government after showering them with largesse,are we really expected to believe it’s altruistic.
Superb analysis from Zoe, here! Clearly outraged!
This lafy is so sensible and spit on
Dysmorphia...damned predictive!
and the question I ask was all this known before the election and not published?
He's got to go, he's been compromised. By backdoor Ali
Buyers regret
What fcuking halo ?
Thanks for the continuous update! I am super excited about how I got retired at the age of 57, earning more income. I am now able to afford anything for my family even with my Retirement. 47k weekly returns has been life changing, after so much struggles.
Hello please how do you make such weekly?? Please I really need assistance I feel so down of myself because of low finance…
@@marcosvg90Maria Angelina Alexander I really appreciate her efforts and transparency.
Giving her my initial savings of $15,000 to invest in a brokerage account was a turning point in my life less 7days. It's been an incredibly rewarding experience…
After I raised up to 360k trading with her l now own a House and a car here in the states. Myself and my family we are extremely happy..❤
God has used her to save so many families. I remember when I met her at the bank, she was indeed a good woman…
She was pro lockdown?
Yep, she said that.
I'm sorry but can you bring on better guests. This woman is a bit dim and too loud
and very annoying
Concert tickets for #VictoriaSponger and Premier League Box for #TwoTierKierFreeGear - huzzah for them
Honestly she really took up too much time back tracking and correcting every 2 mins. Had to turn this off before screaming at the top of my lungs, ‘get to the point!’.
Chattering nonsense
Wasn’t it obvious to all….it was to me and some others…what Starmer was ? Your guest “despises” Corbyn but doesn’t tell us why apart from she thinks he might smell. Is it that he was a socialist and old Labour unlike her mate Blair ? Guess we’ll never know.
Please don't invite this guest on again.
She's terrible. X
Gender dysphoria is not a known disorder...it was changed from gender identity disorder by 9 people for the DSM5 (!). You can Google that! Often people wanting to escape their own body has many causes. CSA, autism and same sex attraction (internalised homophobia or family/peer disapproval of such). Affirmation of this is not helpful. Acceptance does not make real the idea of gender dysphoria...more like body dystopia. Its not a given that everyone is in agreement with your position on this subject. Just saying....
Yeah, she's not abreast of everything as much as she acts.
Fantastic Zoe loved her tell like it is 😂
TooQueerKeir
Come on guys .... no 1 takes there kid out of there home in the middle of there exams 😅
Old Qeer Kia was not living at home he was Playing hide the Sausage with his millionaire M8 in his 18million £ flat 😮
It will all come out soon whatever it is the ordinary public cam smell the dead rat 🐀
Do you think spiked might be getting some money from...?
My goodness she can't speak fluently
Soviet aristocrats.
Having this woman on is a good way to lose subscribers...
Strimpel's too-cool-for-it-all arrogance made for a terrible guest.
What a nasty woman slagging off Jeremy corbyn like that . An honest man
😂😂😂
She's not so well put together herself.
Israel dosnt start war😂😂😢😢😢
Which war did they start?🙄
She's one clever bint ..
😅
Wow, probably right about labour,who cares tories were horrible, surprising the other mob are horrible.
So blind on Israel, who it seems havent killed 1000s of children in Gaza, oh but they do "try" not to. You can go back for generations of tit for tat between pre Israel zionism and the various Arab actors over the years.
Butvright now for the people in Gaza this is irrellevant, these people here ignore the whole UN 2 state resolutions and the 1967 borders, Israel have ignored this for generations. And given that, the anti Israel forces have a genuine point of disatisfaction. Its not anti semitism to point this out,many non zionist Jewish people point this out, are they antisemetic?
This shows highly biased and 1 sided views smell of an influence operation or just credulous stupidity. What it isnt is an honest even handed view of the middle east
War has civilian casualties duh
Anti Zionism is anti semitism because it is the belief that Israel is an illegitimate state and only Israel does not have the right to exist even though under "muh international law" it is a recognised nation
Criticism of Israeli policy is not anti Zionism
If Israel is expected to allow themselves killed just because we want to appease jihadists who want to kill them for being Jews, that is antisemitism because no other country is asked to do that
Have you considered that the fact that someone disagrees with your view on Israel doesn't mean such people are "bLiNd oN iSrAeL"
Anti Israel forces have no legitimate point.
Israel is defending itself from people who have a stated goal of destroying them no matter what
My opinion is that they are blind on israel, based on their very selective use of events and perspectives. If they can find no fault innisraels actions and only fault in the palestinians, then yes they are in my mind blind,biased and or bought off.
Genocide apologists
Cry more
Not a genocide even in your wildest dream