Will is incredible. The whole dev system (both lab and passive) are his baby and he's been absolutely amazing at helping explain it, talking through all the questions and concerns for months now, and working to tweak it based on feedback. He deserves all the kudos and then some.
Been looking forward to your first glance at the release. As a fellow O's fan, I hope you do another run with them, but will watch no matter what you choose.
I did my first auto sim of OOTP25 and you'll be happy to know your Orioles won the World Series in six games over the Braves (after defeating my 98 win Astros in the ALCS). Gunner Henderson and Adley Rutschman were 6+ WAR players!
SO helpful as someone who just came into OOTP at the tale end of 24 to have someone with experience to provide a baseline to new features just when I felt like I was getting my feet wet with the base game! Can't want to enjoy this years content and game along with the channel and community! :D
I thought the big benefit would be drafting a dude worth 70 potential power but 35 potential avoids K's and then putting the avoid K's slider all the way up.
That's one approach to try for sure, but my read from what's been said so far about this is that type of approach wouldn't really work because it's more complicated than that.
I think any team that plays in a park that favors either L/R heavily for HR would be interesting to watch and the orioles also have the added fun of seeing who you hold on too that might not look like theyll ever be anything or are actively worse than what you could have but you want to keep them around in hopes they get better.
Hey PF, love the content my friend! I've mentioned this already to Old School Sports but since you were looking at Bradish's pitches and commenting on them I thought I'd bring it up here for your thoughts as well (none of my friends play this game sadly so I come to youtube to try and find gamers smarter than I am to answer my questions. :P). Pitch rankings are just making me scratch my head - yes the elite pitchers still have the 75-80 grade fastballs and sliders etc in their arsenal but I'm having a hard time getting a read on the other non-Cy Young contender pitchers... take for instance a Cal Quantrill in Colorado - a 45 overall pitcher (below average, but not by much as a 45). He has five pitches which sounds good, but his 3 BEST pitches are 35/35 and the other two are 20/20. I find it impossible to conceive that a major league pitcher (paticularly a starter) would not have a least ONE pitch that is an average major league quality (50 ranking yes?). So just looking for your thoughts on that - maybe there's a reason that you pick up on that my old and foggy mind cannot. :) Otherwise are we going to start paying a little less attention to the pitch qualities and more to the Stuff/Control/Movement? Thanks PF, let me know what you think and please keep those videos coming!
Pitch ratings do look a bit off. In term of 50 = average. That was my understanding for years, since that's how the MLB scouting scale works. But the devs have said their rating scale isn't designed to have 50 reflect average.
🤣 I never said I couldn't watch, it was simply making me flinch at work. I finished the whole Tigers series, and I'll finish the rest, cough drop or not. And that's not a promise that's just a fact of life, YEAH
Will's quote was 'When you give more to a rating, not only will it improve development, which includes current ratings as well as talent increases, but it also influences how well a player who has already maxed out his current ratings will maintain it and even fight off the aging curve if he's getting older.' So that does sound like it can help with 'talent increases', which are I assume the chance that developing players boost their maximum talent potential. But I doubt it would boost a fully developed player? I'm curious to see if all the categories are equally important? Why wouldn't you always want to under weight Gap and put some of that time into Power or Eye. Although the penalty for going too low (-10 'points') is bigger than the equivalent positive bonus. So perhaps by focusing you slightly harm overall development/maintenance. I can see it being really useful for aging players to maintain their important skills. Especially if a hitter is transitioning to DH . . . no need to waste any time on defense. Its going to be really fun to play around with (in addition to the Development Lab). I love the idea you can now help direct how players develop.
If I picked the M's, I think the challenge for me would be to not rebuild and surround Julio + the young pitchers with a team that's good enough to contend.
All of a sudden, my vladdy Guerrero jr went from 5 stars to 3.5, nothing noted in player development. Also, when I updated the game from 24 to 25 a lot of my players lost more than a star of rating. Why is this?
Not sure, but if you suspect it may be a bug, the best thing to do is post it in the OOTP forums in their bug report section: forums.ootpdevelopments.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4057
Your thoughts on Bradish are my thoughts on Logan Webb every year. He ends up being very mid every iteration. His sinker and slider should probably be in the 60’s (20-80), and his movement bumped as well. 2nd place Cy Young and consistently upper tier. In game, he struggles to maintain a 3.80-4.20 ERA. 🤦♂️
@@pfholden I’m glad he performs in some people’s saves! He is consistently mid in my saves going back to OOTP 23 haha Really enjoy your channel btw, thanks for what you do!
I love Cease and that was a bit of as joke. But uh, with all due respect, anyone who says Bradish hasn't yet done it in the bigs should google the 2023 AL Cy Young voting.
Will is incredible. The whole dev system (both lab and passive) are his baby and he's been absolutely amazing at helping explain it, talking through all the questions and concerns for months now, and working to tweak it based on feedback. He deserves all the kudos and then some.
Love it, sign me up as #TeamWill
Been looking forward to your first glance at the release. As a fellow O's fan, I hope you do another run with them, but will watch no matter what you choose.
A fellow O's fan? Cheers!
I did my first auto sim of OOTP25 and you'll be happy to know your Orioles won the World Series in six games over the Braves (after defeating my 98 win Astros in the ALCS).
Gunner Henderson and Adley Rutschman were 6+ WAR players!
Hahaha, I had the same outcome in the season I just simmed...O's over Braves
SO helpful as someone who just came into OOTP at the tale end of 24 to have someone with experience to provide a baseline to new features just when I felt like I was getting my feet wet with the base game! Can't want to enjoy this years content and game along with the channel and community! :D
Thanks for the kind words and for watching!
I thought the big benefit would be drafting a dude worth 70 potential power but 35 potential avoids K's and then putting the avoid K's slider all the way up.
That's one approach to try for sure, but my read from what's been said so far about this is that type of approach wouldn't really work because it's more complicated than that.
I think any team that plays in a park that favors either L/R heavily for HR would be interesting to watch and the orioles also have the added fun of seeing who you hold on too that might not look like theyll ever be anything or are actively worse than what you could have but you want to keep them around in hopes they get better.
Hey PF, love the content my friend!
I've mentioned this already to Old School Sports but since you were looking at Bradish's pitches and commenting on them I thought I'd bring it up here for your thoughts as well (none of my friends play this game sadly so I come to youtube to try and find gamers smarter than I am to answer my questions. :P).
Pitch rankings are just making me scratch my head - yes the elite pitchers still have the 75-80 grade fastballs and sliders etc in their arsenal but I'm having a hard time getting a read on the other non-Cy Young contender pitchers... take for instance a Cal Quantrill in Colorado - a 45 overall pitcher (below average, but not by much as a 45). He has five pitches which sounds good, but his 3 BEST pitches are 35/35 and the other two are 20/20.
I find it impossible to conceive that a major league pitcher (paticularly a starter) would not have a least ONE pitch that is an average major league quality (50 ranking yes?). So just looking for your thoughts on that - maybe there's a reason that you pick up on that my old and foggy mind cannot. :) Otherwise are we going to start paying a little less attention to the pitch qualities and more to the Stuff/Control/Movement?
Thanks PF, let me know what you think and please keep those videos coming!
Pitch ratings do look a bit off. In term of 50 = average. That was my understanding for years, since that's how the MLB scouting scale works. But the devs have said their rating scale isn't designed to have 50 reflect average.
🤣 I never said I couldn't watch, it was simply making me flinch at work. I finished the whole Tigers series, and I'll finish the rest, cough drop or not. And that's not a promise that's just a fact of life, YEAH
haha, well either way it made me aware that that would be super annoying to hear so I appreciate the feedback!
Will's quote was 'When you give more to a rating, not only will it improve development, which includes current ratings as well as talent increases, but it also influences how well a player who has already maxed out his current ratings will maintain it and even fight off the aging curve if he's getting older.'
So that does sound like it can help with 'talent increases', which are I assume the chance that developing players boost their maximum talent potential. But I doubt it would boost a fully developed player?
I'm curious to see if all the categories are equally important? Why wouldn't you always want to under weight Gap and put some of that time into Power or Eye. Although the penalty for going too low (-10 'points') is bigger than the equivalent positive bonus. So perhaps by focusing you slightly harm overall development/maintenance.
I can see it being really useful for aging players to maintain their important skills. Especially if a hitter is transitioning to DH . . . no need to waste any time on defense.
Its going to be really fun to play around with (in addition to the Development Lab). I love the idea you can now help direct how players develop.
Wow, is this from the OOTP forum? I assume Will is a dev?
Gandhi on a bike the Orioles are stacked... Holdy must be happy these days.
how does the os current roster typically play out in ootp25?
generally they are pretty successful
thanks for the vid! consider to do the mariners, no highly rated prospects and a true rebuild as the current roster is probably not good enough
If I picked the M's, I think the challenge for me would be to not rebuild and surround Julio + the young pitchers with a team that's good enough to contend.
All of a sudden, my vladdy Guerrero jr went from 5 stars to 3.5, nothing noted in player development. Also, when I updated the game from 24 to 25 a lot of my players lost more than a star of rating. Why is this?
Not sure, but if you suspect it may be a bug, the best thing to do is post it in the OOTP forums in their bug report section: forums.ootpdevelopments.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4057
would love a reds rebuild even if it’s short
It's been a bit, but here's one I did in OOTP 23: th-cam.com/video/YZDRjqxDRok/w-d-xo.html
Your thoughts on Bradish are my thoughts on Logan Webb every year. He ends up being very mid every iteration. His sinker and slider should probably be in the 60’s (20-80), and his movement bumped as well. 2nd place Cy Young and consistently upper tier. In game, he struggles to maintain a 3.80-4.20 ERA. 🤦♂️
Interesting, I had not noticed that on Webb. Funny enough, in a sim I ran last night, Webb won 2024 Cy young and Bradish finished in the top 10, haha
@@pfholden I’m glad he performs in some people’s saves! He is consistently mid in my saves going back to OOTP 23 haha
Really enjoy your channel btw, thanks for what you do!
Traded for Braddish in my Guardians franchise
I'm going to manage the Astros and rebuild them. They are about to fall apart after this season.
It is Wyatt god year. He won RoY and MVP in my first sim. Go...Tigers. Not that Max is awful in here.
Please rebuild the Pirates!
Cease is a CY Young runner up. Let's see Bradish do it in the bigs before you start saying he should look more like Cease lol
I love Cease and that was a bit of as joke. But uh, with all due respect, anyone who says Bradish hasn't yet done it in the bigs should google the 2023 AL Cy Young voting.
If we're talking about AL CY Nominees who could use some love in OOTP25, I'd like to file a claim as well.