It’s depressing listening to these young people talking about 60 year olds like we’re dinosaurs! I don’t know how I got this old so fast - but I’m looking for some hope and guidance to stay healthy as long as possible. Not sure I found much in this interview. But there’s hope for my kids- so that’s good!
@@bonniek7228 I don’t think 60-somethings are dinosaurs! :) Very sorry if anything came across that way, and I really think it would be great if there were some more older voices discussing ageing-we didn’t get onto this in our chat, but the exclusion of older people from both advocacy and research is something I talk about in my book. It’s frustrating that many or most users of eg cancer medicines might be older adults, but the drug trials are often done in young, otherwise healthy people to make it more likely to get a positive result… And please do call me out if I do unintentionally say anything dinosaur-accusation-adjacent. :)
My elderly mom had a follow up appointment with her physician last week. According to the Levine Biological Age Calculator based on her latest bloodwork test results, she has now aged minus 18 years during the last 4 years. She eats a Slow Carb, Slow Fat diet style - whole plant food carbs and whole plant food fats both with fiber, helping the body fully assimilate the nutrients without overwhelming its metabolic systems and pathways. Here is her menu for a typical day: Breakfast: Organic steel cut oats with some buckwheat and wild blueberries, raspberries, 1/2 banana, tablespoon of ground flax and ground chia seeds, tablespoon of hemp seeds, organic soy milk, Ceylon cinnamon. Lunch: Green smoothie heavy on the low-oxalate greens (frozen kale or collard greens, frozen pineapple, banana, orange, lemon wedge with rind, organic soy milk, avocado sliver, amla powder, dulse flakes, apple cider vinegar, blackstrap molasses, nutritional yeast, small scoop of hemp protein powder, fresh ginger, medjool date, fresh kale, cold-pressed flax oil) with a small handful of almonds and walnuts - or - some soup and salad. Before dinner snack: one apple. Dinner: Variety of simple meals including spaghetti, chili, vegetable soup with beans, lintel miso soup with organic tofu cubes/onions/mushrooms/kale, split pea soup with onions/mushrooms/carrots/celery/potato, roasted vegetables (squash/carrots/potatoes), rice and beans bowl with onions/mushrooms/kale/peppers/salsa, organic tofu scramble with onions/mushrooms/peppers/kale/turmeric/nutritional yeast, broccoli, asparagus, green beans, etc. Dessert: frozen banana whip with papaya or strawberries topped some days with a couple of macadamia nuts or a Brazil nut - or - some red grapes. Make sure to include G-Bombs every day for optimal immune system (i.e. - greens, beans, onions, mushrooms, berries, seeds). Avoid most processed foods. Include tofu perhaps twice a week but not more. Stop eating after an early dinner except for a few pistachios before bedtime. Cheers!
Thank you for all that helpful information! It’s wonderful that she’s aging backwards and eating such a healthy diet. What is the real age of your Mom?
Hello Friends, I'm curious to know which part of the conversation you found the most insightful and engaging. Also, if you have any other questions related to this subject, please post them below this comment. I'll make sure to include them in our next discussion.
This was an excellent interview. I also found Andrew Steele's book "Ageless" to be very informative on the scientific research targeting the biology of aging.
When I was younger, there was the anti aging info from Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw on tv talk shows. They are still with us, so I guess they did a pretty good job with the science at that time.
Excellent interview - very detailed, ahead on new technologies and the future, and wide ranging questions & balanced answers - thank you Andrew and Simon.
Can you make a chart please presenting what Steele, Attia, Bryon Johnson , David Sinclair and Aubrey deGrey think? What do they all agree on and what do they each emphasise? I am confused with all the information in this field. They all claim to be evidence based.
Thanks again for another interesting discussion. I'm wondering if there a website or resource where people can go to sign up to take part of one of these nutrition studies?
Hey Simon I am pretty confused with the concept of dietary cholesterol. You have people in the plant based movement like Dr. Greger who say any amount of cholesterol whatsoever is unhealthy and dangerous. And then you have guys like Dr. Attia and Dr. Hyman (both of whom I respect) saying dietary cholesterol doesn't effect serum levels, so it is safe to eat eggs, chicken and lean meats etc as long as saturated fat is kept in check. Wondering if you could address this or make a quick video on the topic.
By the way, for what it's worth, I think a GREAT video would be a careful and unbiased list of the healthiest and unhealthiest animal foods based on the current research so folks have an idea of what to aim for if they should decide to eat such foods.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Yeah, I need to watch that interview you did with Thomas but that makes sense to me so thank you! I asked Gil the same question and he gave me a similar response.
Brilliant interview like all the others I’ve seen on your channel, THANKS! Notice a lot of folks with questions about high blood pressure. Have you covered hibiscus tea? I’m 72 in recovery from major operations with massive muscle loss…a newbie to the science of protein, now getting stronger. But couldn’t get my BP down with exercise. Still very limited movement but perfect pressure now thanks to daily yoga breathing & the tea. My doctors are amazed at the improvement. 170/95 to consistent readings around 130-35/70-80. I’m learning so much, finally making progress thanks to people like you & your wonderful guests. 🙏
about meditation: it just doesn't work for everybody. So the starting point with that kind of intervention should be: does it work for you? Complicated by the fact that for some people the positive effect of meditation can be felt right away. For others it takes ages for it to 'stick'. And probably there are people for whom it doesn't work at all - though teasing that out is tough as well.
Great interview! Thank you. Andrew Steele is super amusing as well as informative. Am struggling to convince my husband to cut off his testicles so he can live as long as me 😂
Joel Fuhrman would probably say that calorie restriction should be very small, perhaps 50 Calories per day, and nutrient density should be very high as you are only trying to restrict the fat and carbohydrate, not fibre and nutrients.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill That is wonderful. I think you will enjoy that conversation. This current guest sounded a bit like Joel when he talked about protein 'quality'.
Such an interresting interview. I feel as though things I haven't thought about at 72 has exploded in my WFPB brain. There was so much fast talking that 1. Will have to listen again, and 2. Will have to buy the book. I will read it very fast! 😂
thanks. Good discussion. On the metformin study, the definition of non diabetic likely includes HbA1c of < 5.7%, which includes a lot of people who are not optimum in terms of biometrics. Would be interesting to parse the results against people who have HbA1c around 5% or a bit less, confirmed to also have very low insulin. Seems too easy to jump to the conclusion, which Andrew does not do, that metformin is a good adjunct for people with optimum biomarkers, as opposed to acceptable biomarkers.
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, there are loads of caveats with the observational stuff on metformin… I just wish someone would stump up the last few million so TAME could do the proper randomised version and we could stop trying to read tea leaves!
I'm not sure about grey/white hair. That may have more to do with genetics than lifestyle, but I don't know. I'm personally awaiting Dr Michael Gregers book How Not To Age, which is released in december, to learn more about anti-aging. And some of my motive for wanting to learn this is vanity. I want to look good for longer. 😉
I think the only way we're going to crack this problem for people alive today with very powerful AI that can make sense of the 5,000 medical papers published _every day_ to sort out the best interventions, plus all the new technologies being implemented in drug discovery or will be over the next decade or so. There's just no way otherwise, it will take a century to do this.
The conflict of interest issue is what bothered me about the interview with Matt. The whole interview he presented as a scientist who seemed to have found some interesting findings, but when it came out at the end that he was starting to go into business based on these findings red flags were raised. The soy guy saying glyphosate is safe lessened my trust in him as well.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill yes and no. Andrew made a comment about conflict of interest in nutritional research about half way through the convo, which reminded me of the 2 previous guests of yours that i thought were slightly sketchy in that regard. for instance, wrt soy I think the consensus is it's good and I eat tofu and especially tempeh, but I sure as heck eat organic soy to avoid/minimize herbicide exposure.
Thanks for having me on the show! :)
It’s depressing listening to these young people talking about 60 year olds like we’re dinosaurs! I don’t know how I got this old so fast - but I’m looking for some hope and guidance to stay healthy as long as possible. Not sure I found much in this interview. But there’s hope for my kids- so that’s good!
@@bonniek7228 I don’t think 60-somethings are dinosaurs! :) Very sorry if anything came across that way, and I really think it would be great if there were some more older voices discussing ageing-we didn’t get onto this in our chat, but the exclusion of older people from both advocacy and research is something I talk about in my book. It’s frustrating that many or most users of eg cancer medicines might be older adults, but the drug trials are often done in young, otherwise healthy people to make it more likely to get a positive result… And please do call me out if I do unintentionally say anything dinosaur-accusation-adjacent. :)
My elderly mom had a follow up appointment with her physician last week.
According to the Levine Biological Age Calculator based on her latest bloodwork test results, she has now aged minus 18 years during the last 4 years. She eats a Slow Carb, Slow Fat diet style - whole plant food carbs and whole plant food fats both with fiber, helping the body fully assimilate the nutrients without overwhelming its metabolic systems and pathways.
Here is her menu for a typical day:
Breakfast: Organic steel cut oats with some buckwheat and wild blueberries, raspberries, 1/2 banana, tablespoon of ground flax and ground chia seeds, tablespoon of hemp seeds, organic soy milk, Ceylon cinnamon.
Lunch: Green smoothie heavy on the low-oxalate greens (frozen kale or collard greens, frozen pineapple, banana, orange, lemon wedge with rind, organic soy milk, avocado sliver, amla powder, dulse flakes, apple cider vinegar, blackstrap molasses, nutritional yeast, small scoop of hemp protein powder, fresh ginger, medjool date, fresh kale, cold-pressed flax oil) with a small handful of almonds and walnuts - or - some soup and salad.
Before dinner snack: one apple.
Dinner: Variety of simple meals including spaghetti, chili, vegetable soup with beans, lintel miso soup with organic tofu cubes/onions/mushrooms/kale, split pea soup with onions/mushrooms/carrots/celery/potato, roasted vegetables (squash/carrots/potatoes), rice and beans bowl with onions/mushrooms/kale/peppers/salsa, organic tofu scramble with onions/mushrooms/peppers/kale/turmeric/nutritional yeast, broccoli, asparagus, green beans, etc.
Dessert: frozen banana whip with papaya or strawberries topped some days with a couple of macadamia nuts or a Brazil nut - or - some red grapes.
Make sure to include G-Bombs every day for optimal immune system (i.e. - greens, beans, onions, mushrooms, berries, seeds).
Avoid most processed foods. Include tofu perhaps twice a week but not more. Stop eating after an early dinner except for a few pistachios before bedtime.
Cheers!
Wow, thank you so much for sharing this 🙏💕
Thank you for all that helpful information! It’s wonderful that she’s aging backwards and eating such a healthy diet. What is the real age of your Mom?
@@southerngirl1408 84 1/2 but please don't tell anyone 😮
@@greensmoothieparty She’s Amazing! I promise not to tell anyone her age, Lol 😂
Whoa! That's almost exactly how I make oatmeal.
Getting older without deteriorating. I'm holding out hope.
Same. For me Dr Ellesworth Wareham was/is my inspiration. He lived very long but also very well. Retired from heart surgery at 95.
Hello Friends,
I'm curious to know which part of the conversation you found the most insightful and engaging. Also, if you have any other questions related to this subject, please post them below this comment. I'll make sure to include them in our next discussion.
This was an excellent interview. I also found Andrew Steele's book "Ageless" to be very informative on the scientific research targeting the biology of aging.
Thank you! Really glad you enjoyed Ageless, and it was a pleasure to chat to Simon!
When I was younger, there was the anti aging info from Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw on tv talk shows. They are still with us, so I guess they did a pretty good job with the science at that time.
the ideal speaker... does exist)) no need to change speed settings😁
Hahaha yeah sometimes I have to recommend people use the 0.75× speed control…
@@DrAndrewSteele 👍😅
Such a clear communicator. Really interesting stuff.
Please keep up with the fabulous timestamps!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Excellent interview - very detailed, ahead on new technologies and the future, and wide ranging questions & balanced answers - thank you Andrew and Simon.
Thanks, really glad you enjoyed it!
Can you make a chart please presenting what Steele, Attia, Bryon Johnson , David Sinclair and Aubrey deGrey think? What do they all agree on and what do they each emphasise?
I am confused with all the information in this field. They all claim to be evidence based.
My guess would be that climate change and other environmental issues are going to negatively influence life expectancy as well as health span.
Thanks again for another interesting discussion. I'm wondering if there a website or resource where people can go to sign up to take part of one of these nutrition studies?
Thank you, very encouraging.
Hey Simon I am pretty confused with the concept of dietary cholesterol. You have people in the plant based movement like Dr. Greger who say any amount of cholesterol whatsoever is unhealthy and dangerous. And then you have guys like Dr. Attia and Dr. Hyman (both of whom I respect) saying dietary cholesterol doesn't effect serum levels, so it is safe to eat eggs, chicken and lean meats etc as long as saturated fat is kept in check. Wondering if you could address this or make a quick video on the topic.
By the way, for what it's worth, I think a GREAT video would be a careful and unbiased list of the healthiest and unhealthiest animal foods based on the current research so folks have an idea of what to aim for if they should decide to eat such foods.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Yeah, I need to watch that interview you did with Thomas but that makes sense to me so thank you! I asked Gil the same question and he gave me a similar response.
Brilliant interview like all the others I’ve seen on your channel, THANKS!
Notice a lot of folks with questions about high blood pressure. Have you covered hibiscus tea?
I’m 72 in recovery from major operations with massive muscle loss…a newbie to the science of protein, now getting stronger.
But couldn’t get my BP down with exercise.
Still very limited movement but perfect pressure now thanks to daily yoga breathing & the tea. My doctors are amazed at the improvement. 170/95 to consistent readings around 130-35/70-80.
I’m learning so much, finally making progress thanks to people like you & your wonderful guests. 🙏
about meditation: it just doesn't work for everybody. So the starting point with that kind of intervention should be: does it work for you? Complicated by the fact that for some people the positive effect of meditation can be felt right away. For others it takes ages for it to 'stick'. And probably there are people for whom it doesn't work at all - though teasing that out is tough as well.
Great interview! Thank you. Andrew Steele is super amusing as well as informative. Am struggling to convince my husband to cut off his testicles so he can live as long as me 😂
What if we got rid of half the chemicals in the environment and provided healthier food instead of always looking at bandaids?
Joel Fuhrman would probably say that calorie restriction should be very small, perhaps 50 Calories per day, and nutrient density should be very high as you are only trying to restrict the fat and carbohydrate, not fibre and nutrients.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill That is wonderful. I think you will enjoy that conversation. This current guest sounded a bit like Joel when he talked about protein 'quality'.
What do you mean calorie restriction of 50 cal / day? You mean a caloric deficit of 50 cal/ day?
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Amazing, waited a long time for a Fuhrman interview on this show!
Such an interresting interview. I feel as though things I haven't thought about at 72 has exploded in my WFPB brain. There was so much fast talking that 1. Will have to listen again, and 2. Will have to buy the book. I will read it very fast! 😂
thanks. Good discussion. On the metformin study, the definition of non diabetic likely includes HbA1c of < 5.7%, which includes a lot of people who are not optimum in terms of biometrics. Would be interesting to parse the results against people who have HbA1c around 5% or a bit less, confirmed to also have very low insulin. Seems too easy to jump to the conclusion, which Andrew does not do, that metformin is a good adjunct for people with optimum biomarkers, as opposed to acceptable biomarkers.
I agree about Metformin. I wouldn't take for granted that the lowest HbA1c is necessarily what reflects the best health, though.
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, there are loads of caveats with the observational stuff on metformin… I just wish someone would stump up the last few million so TAME could do the proper randomised version and we could stop trying to read tea leaves!
One of the best episodes!
Is there a way to not get white hair? 😂😂 I found two the other day … 😅
I'm not sure about grey/white hair. That may have more to do with genetics than lifestyle, but I don't know. I'm personally awaiting Dr Michael Gregers book How Not To Age, which is released in december, to learn more about anti-aging. And some of my motive for wanting to learn this is vanity. I want to look good for longer. 😉
I think the only way we're going to crack this problem for people alive today with very powerful AI that can make sense of the 5,000 medical papers published _every day_ to sort out the best interventions, plus all the new technologies being implemented in drug discovery or will be over the next decade or so. There's just no way otherwise, it will take a century to do this.
Longevity is decreasing in the western industrial counties, not increasing.
Imagine to live till 2150
The conflict of interest issue is what bothered me about the interview with Matt. The whole interview he presented as a scientist who seemed to have found some interesting findings, but when it came out at the end that he was starting to go into business based on these findings red flags were raised. The soy guy saying glyphosate is safe lessened my trust in him as well.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill yes and no. Andrew made a comment about conflict of interest in nutritional research about half way through the convo, which reminded me of the 2 previous guests of yours that i thought were slightly sketchy in that regard. for instance, wrt soy I think the consensus is it's good and I eat tofu and especially tempeh, but I sure as heck eat organic soy to avoid/minimize herbicide exposure.
Why's he speed talking??