243. Maintenance

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  • Maintenance is often ignored, minimized, or portrayed as being inferior to creative/productive work, but it's really the most fundamental activity of life itself, & it can teach us a lot about the world.
    - Links for the Curious -
    Graham, Stephen, and Nigel Thrift. “Out of Order: Understanding Repair and Maintenance.” Theory, Culture & Society 24, no. 3 (May 2007): 1-25. doi.org/10.1177/0263276407075954.
    HOW IT WORKS | Wine Glasses, Grand Piano, Water Tap, Soy Sauce | Episode 1 | Free Documentary, 2014. • ► HOW IT WORKS | Wine ... .
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    Berger, Markus, and Kate Irvin. Repair: Sustainable Design Futures. 1st ed. London: Routledge, 2022. doi.org/10.4324/9781003244028.
    Denis, Jérôme, and David Pontille. “Beyond Breakdown: Exploring Regimes of Maintenance,” n.d.
    Mitchell, William J., and Anthony M. Townsend. “Cyborg Agonistes: Disaster and Reconstruction in the Digital Electronic Era.” In The Resilient City, by William J. Mitchell and Anthony M. Townsend. Oxford University Press, 2005. doi.org/10.1093/oso/978019517....
    Mohun, Simon. “Productive and Unproductive Labour in the Labour Theory of Value,” n.d.
    Prattes, Riikka. “‘I Don’t Clean up after Myself’: Epistemic Ignorance, Responsibility and the Politics of the Outsourcing of Domestic Cleaning.” Feminist Theory 21, no. 1 (January 1, 2020): 25-45. doi.org/10.1177/1464700119842560.
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    xkcd: Dependency - xkcd.com/2347/
    182. Lessons from "The Mythical Man-Month" - • 182. Lessons From "The...
    How Mierle Laderman Ukeles Turned Maintenance Work into Art - hyperallergic.com/355255/how-...
    What is work? Work is of two kinds: first, altering the position of matter at or near the earth's surface relatively to other such matter; second, telling other people to do so. The first one is unpleasant and ill paid; the second is pleasant and highly paid.
    -Bertrand Russell

ความคิดเห็น • 36

  • @TheoriesofEverything
    @TheoriesofEverything 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This channel's a fine wine glass, maintained by you. Thank you, man.

    • @Anhedonxia
      @Anhedonxia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Couldn't agree more

    • @THUNKShow
      @THUNKShow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Boh, thank you. 🍷

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too 😍🙏

  • @jakobquick1598
    @jakobquick1598 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very good Last chapter of this episode on the illusion of pruducts

  • @String.Epsilon
    @String.Epsilon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I encourage everyone reading the comments here to check out what their local municipality offers in terms of peeks behind the curtain. I think tours for water treatment plants are pretty common. Just getting a better insight as to what is involved in keeping just your neighborhood functional is pretty cool.

  • @MarkyMark11J
    @MarkyMark11J 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an FE for a power utility company; this video does an awesome job articulating just how pivotal the operational maintenance of infrastructure truly is. Quite literally, equipment and devices break down all the time all over the system. I've personally spent many on-call rotations working 24+ hours addressing emergent troubleshooting issues. But as you point how the robustness and redundancy means that most customers never really endure a loss of power regularly. This leads to people being convinced we must be doing nothing year-round until a major storm shows up.

  • @bangboom123
    @bangboom123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love that perspective on Y2K. Had always heard the nothingburger argument and never considered the mass maintenance which would've gone into preventing it.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A real race to protect!

  • @Autists-Guide
    @Autists-Guide 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In class, I make the point that the best IT department is invisible... things don't go wrong (because of maintenance) or get fixed without panic when they do (incident management).
    Being overlooked is therefore a compliment.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe ok to be out of sight but should not be out of mind!

    • @Autists-Guide
      @Autists-Guide 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bthomson
      Particularly when you're after budget.
      Not that we'd let things go wrong on purpose to remind people why maintenance matters. Of course not 😁

  • @DevFRus
    @DevFRus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A nice follow up would be Mary Midgley's "Philosophical Plumbing" -- philosophy as a maintenance activity for the system of concepts that underly our society.

  • @Infantry12345
    @Infantry12345 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think about this all the time, at least from a learning perspective. There really isn't a limit on how deep you can get into any craft, tool, or anything.
    I think my interest started out of fear and paranoia tho. My dad is a bit of a survivalist gun nut, and I think that imparted onto me. That framing makes learning less "oh cool, this is how this works" or "my respect for [discipline] has deepened" and more "This might be useful to know when the world ends". I still get the former, but it's colored by the latter, and it's hard not to let that thinking worm its way into everything.
    That said, it *has* been useful to have this growth/curiosity forward approach to things. I have a career in software validation, and the arts. Both of these things benefit from having a broad understanding of a variety of things, how they work, what the rules are (and what it looks like to break them), etc.

  • @bangboom123
    @bangboom123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Coming back to this video because a parallel occurred to me. Around 3:30 you point out how good technology extends the user's will and becomes invisible, and that maintenance ensures this illusion. This is also the same as one's actual body parts in regards pain - you're not aware of your kidneys unless your kidneys are going wrong. Good little example of the extended mind thesis. Almost makes me frame maintenance as the general act of extricating unimportant components from awareness.

  • @bthomson
    @bthomson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As always "riveted!!!" Will listen again as soon as I finish the comment. So important a topic! So often overlooked a subject! Texas' electric grid! Maui's siren system! I was one of the few effected by Y2K ( my Mas90 payroll software failed and I had to replace it!) Unions are making somewhat of a come back and I hope that helps!

  • @Gumikrukon
    @Gumikrukon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great stuff! :) Thank you! :)

  • @matthewbrunell413
    @matthewbrunell413 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Heidigger made similar phenological arguments. Nolan Gertz noted so much of modern tech is so unreliable that we are almost always in a discombobulated state.
    (The touch screen was uncooperative while typing this.)

  • @filipDcve
    @filipDcve 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video. Thank you.

  • @Anhedonxia
    @Anhedonxia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Loved the SAG AFTRA shout out

    • @THUNKShow
      @THUNKShow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Everyone takes writers for granted until they have to watch a season of filler for their favorite show.

    • @Anhedonxia
      @Anhedonxia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@THUNKShow yep. Squidward said it best:" Nobody cares about the fate of labor as long as they can get their instant gratification"😂

  • @8ctopus0000
    @8ctopus0000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This reminds me of Mierle Laderman Ukeles art project to shake the hands of every sanitation worker in NYC, 1979-1980

  • @Xob_Driesestig
    @Xob_Driesestig 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:44 This video is sponsored by Roomba
    2:30 It's also there to ensure an untrained idiot (or deliberate saboteur) doesn't mess up the whole building. Reasonable compromise: glass doors.
    4:30 I think the writers strike will be less successful than they're hoping for, given that streaming as a whole is losing massive amounts of money. I fear that taking more money from investors won't be enough and it's really the consumers that are getting the best deal out of the current status-quo, which means they (we) would have to pay more to make the writers' pay more fair. Of course we live in the age of easy internet piracy so increasing prices could just as easily drive costumers away.
    7:45 Wow, very cool story. Thanks for sharing.
    12:30 We can think of the news/media as the 'maintenance' of our education system. Every time a new discovery is made, every time the world map or the political landscape changes we get a 'software update'. Sadly the media has failed so badly at 'education maintenance' that even conceiving of it in that way feels ridiculous.

  • @UberhaxxrXYZ
    @UberhaxxrXYZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm new to this channel, watching from 240 to 1 xD (backwards)

  • @threethrushes
    @threethrushes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Teeth, nails, hair, body, motorcycles, missus, friendships, accounts, watches, home.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Global peace, freedom of speech, thought and religion, voting rights, healthcare, mental health, housing, family dynamic, support for public schools, climate control, LGBTQ etc. rights, and just general morality and common sense!

  • @rhythmandacoustics
    @rhythmandacoustics 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What essential maintenance people overlook? Well look no further. Their mental, physical , and financial health.

    • @THUNKShow
      @THUNKShow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ...think I'll go for a quick jog...

    • @ilikememes1402
      @ilikememes1402 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Living in-general

  • @anakimluke
    @anakimluke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Has how has Newton's maintenance been?? :3 He had a surgery a while ago, did he not?

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is this the puppy? Hope if so he is better! 🙏🐾

    • @THUNKShow
      @THUNKShow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol, his leg maintenance has mostly abated - we still do squats once a day to keep his mobility up, but he's running around like he always has. 😁

  • @landspide
    @landspide 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Governments, need maintenance by voters.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Democracy does! Authoritarian rule by idiots - not so much!

  • @CamilaEspia
    @CamilaEspia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People with less resources have to maintain machinery for their livelihood at the expense of the maintenance of their own bodies. People with greater resources spend whole systems of machinery to keep the maintenance of their own bodies. It's not ideal lol