MTG Lore: Liliana Vess
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2014
- SeibenLore examines the lore behind the black aligned planeswalker, Liliana Vess. She is a necromancer who broke bad with some demons.
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Wizards really does a good job of demonstrating why black is not evil per se. They also do a good job of showing how white is not good per se either. Lilianna is a good example of this.
She is so cool! I didnt know planeswalkers had such deep stories!
Great video, its hard to find lore information this good.
Awesome video, thanks for the hard work and posting it!
My favorite Planeswalker. The only thing I hate about her story is that everything that's wrong with her life is her fault. Her brother died and the only thing that can bring him back to life shouldn't be used but she uses it anyway. She sells her soul to a demon and, to get it back, she makes more deals with more demons. She uses a powerful artifact and tries to separate the bond she has with it but can't. Things went bad and her actions keep making things worse. She's very quickly becoming her own enemy.
It is a hero's downfall story in every essence. Sad but thats how her story is unfolding.
Sounds like a typical female to me.
Lmao, well at least females play a primary role in MTG overall.
+seibenlore would you ever do a vraska video
+Wolves600Gaming he did
Seriously these videos are the coolest thing on youtube in my opinion. Listen to them all the time, keep 'em coming!!! :)
Great Video I love that you got to do one of my favorite Planeswalkers next to Elspeth and Chandra.
Great work. This series is why i subbed. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! I appreciate the sub!
Lily T.T
Dude, you have to make another video on her!
Gilberth Jiménez lol
Another great video. I love Magic the gathering lore. Keep up the great work.
Before today I never read up on a bit of mtg lore. I only ever played the game. I'm am so glad to have decided to give the lore a shot. Mtg really does have interesting characters with deep and personal stories. I'll continue watching these lord videos to soak up more of the mtg lore.
I loved it thanks for making this video! I also agree she is not fully evil she is fighting for something important!
Can you please make some more of these? They're so good!
I personally would love to see a video on the lure of slivers.
Awesome vids, just subscribed, very interesting and we'll done descriptions, not too much detail to make some loose interest and enough to make sense, perfect
awesome video, subscribed !
Good work!
Thanks!
I think it's interesting that her opening the Helvault for very selfish reasons was ultimately the thing that saved the entire plane of Innistrad, or at least the humans.
Yeah it was a strong coincidence. She helped out the humans, the vampires, and Sorin Markov in one single selfish act. Lol
actually not just the humans! he other creatures of Innistrad cannot procreate or feed except on the living so they need humans to feed on and make more of them so whoever doesn't get saved by warriors or angels gets turned and/or fed on.
its a vicious cycle but a balanced one :).
Now revealed though that she also released Nahiri, who birthed a new age of horror upon Innistrad. If we wanted to say it's all Sorin's fault we could, but Liliana's actions did have extremely dire consequences for Innistrad.
getting my first mtg cards ever tomorrow. (2015 deck builder toolkit). never new there was so much lore. amazing,
Knew. Not new.
So...its now 2019, hows your MTG following goin?
Im about 2 months into MTG so still super noob, but the lore is sooo much better then any rpg and deeper and more thought provoking then any other TCG. Its a perfect combo! But ide be interested to see if youre still playing and all that! Updateee!!
Noticed you said she grew up on an unknown plane. Her wiki states she grew up on Dominaria.
old story said it was an unknown plane
Totally my favorite Planeswalker in the lore.
Awesome vid; really glad you decided to do Liliana, as I feel many dismiss her as just evil whereas she's really very human; she's trying to right her wrongs but making so many more in turn, and she really represents the black traits very well.
Also are you ever planning on covering pre-Mending Planeswalker Lore?
I'd love to see you do something for Urza, Jeska, Crovax and Yawgmoth!
Yawgmoth was never a planeswalker.
Is the series only planeswalkers? I thought he was doing significant figures in MTG lore
Fr492001 Did you not ask if he can do pre-mending planeswalkers, then list some you like? If you are going to just pretend like the sentence after isn't related that's fine.
He isn't doing significant figures, he does lore about everything. Planes, Clans, Guilds.
Fr492001 I cover a lot of lore topics, not just planeswalkers. You can look at my 25 Cards of Christmas series in which I take a look at a number of different smaller figures.
seibenlore Cool can't wait for your next lore vids
This needs to be updated.
Especially with a bonus video of why Liliana is the hero in the story between her and Garruk.
0:29 where'd you get this picture from? It'd make a great addition to my backgrounds folder.
I really like your mtg lore keep it coming
I sure will. Thank you!
Are you going in a certain order with walkers?
ryan harris Nope not really, just doing them as I have free time and which one is currently on my mind lol.
Well they are super cool
Thanks, I really appreciate the support!
Great job thank you very much :) what can i say WOW
Will there be be a lore video on Nicol Bolas or Surkhan Vol?
Awesome video! Subbed! :)
Liliana is by far my favorite Planeswalker. Black is my favorite color of mana already, she has a great backstory, is the most believable character out of the gang, hates white (Angels more specifically) and she's hot. What's not to like? Now.. If I can just trade this M15 Garruk of mine for 3-4 M15 Liliana's...
Keep the garruk at least lili is still getting printed
I'd like to see her stop doing stupid shit to herself out of choices she makes from haste. She is smart enough to make shit happen long term not involving her but she makes the quickest derpy shit anytime it directly involved her
yes! so good!
TheMagicManSam Thanks man!
Too good!
Thank you!
where did you get that picture of liliana in the beginning of the video
Keep. Them. Coming. Please. Just keep these videos coming. Such awesome feeling to tap into these stories...maybe you could do Gideon or Sarkhan next. Good job man :)
Great story
> Liliana falls in love with JaceI never knew that shipping would extend this far...
Great video, very informative and fun to watch! Though, I disagree that Lilliana can't be considered evil, or that her willful sins of the past can be considered 'mistakes'. This wonderful video showed me that she is definitely a fascinating and intriguing character, and yes, we can empathize with her motivations sometimes. But, just my opinion, evil is evil.
For the most part, what she did she did out of selflessness. I don’t see that as evil, just wrong.
Can u do one on Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
My favourite Planeswalkers are Liliana and Jace.
Varrian be like: "who are these people beside me? I don't belong here".
For those new to MtG: Liliana is from Dominaria. We don't really know where on Dominaria though.
We do now
Do you think you could do Nicol Bolas?
So New Zendikar set will continue Liliana's story?
Could you do Sarkhan Vol?
Could you do a video about Kamigawa?
Where do you get this sort of information?
There are a number of novels as well as story articles written by the design team.
I might sound a little bit crazy, but you need to do the lore of Karn Liberated!
Thats not crazy, he is commonly suggested on these comments!
How long do these videos take to make? You seem to be able to release them several times a week?
They take me a good bit of time, They are not the best quality I could do but the video stands as just a visual representation of the story being told.
It usually takes me about two days two do a video if I really dedicate my time to it.
seibenlore Do you work full time on this channel?
Not at all lol. Im actually a full time college student. This channel is a hobby of mine so I work on it when I can. The more people that watch it though, the more time I dedicate to making my videos.
+seibenlore I feel your pain I'm a graduate student and let me tell you that eats your life.
Liliana is the best!
If possible id like to see the backstory of Nicol Bolas. But idk how much we know about his story
If I may ask, I enjoy your videos a lot.But if I may ask if you are thinking of Ajani next? He has such a sad background, that he would make an interesting lore video to delve into. Ajani is a vary underrated planeswalker. Everything he cares for dies: His brother Jazal, his love/friend Elspeth, and his people. Yet he bares this pain and keeps him going, and this pain just makes him stronger. Acting with conviction and perseverance I will admit he begins as a conflicted individual and goes to pure white. He is for the most part unrelenting hope. He is in my opinion white personified more than any white planesalker. As there is little lore about him or is a jumbled mess. Keep on doing these great videos thank you
Ajani does indeed have a rich and emotional story that I would love to make a video about. It will come sooner rather than later.
seibenlore is there going to be an end to this series as it's really entertaining and the only way i can find out about the lore of magic.
Nah I will continue with this series until I have covered all of the major lore points in MTG. Seeing that we get new expansions and stories all the time... I doubt it will end anytime soon.
dier440 Of course I can, that sounds like a good idea actually
seibenlore thanks. also if possible do a video about the different colors if you understand what i mean.
What plane do you think will come after Takir?
I have a theory that after Dragons of Takir we have Sorin markov asking and begging Ugin, the spirit dragon to return with him to Zendalar to end the eldrazi once and for all or trap them with more locks on the prison that anyone could actually open
Liliana, The Last Hope was my first Planeswalker, come Monday September 18th 2017, I will be getting Liliana, Death's Majesty for my Zombie Deck and make it even STRONGER with each Black Zombies card lol
Like Liliana, I seek power and I want to crush my enemies and come out victorious of having one of the best Zombie Decks in my state.
After Return to Ravnica, Theros block and now Khans, I hope we eventually return to Liliana's story.
+Cheeky Scrub Yes!
I wanna know about Tamiyo can you do that planeswalker
I hope that the the final Demon she must vanquish will be the Planeswalker Ob Nixilis. The final 2 demons have already been revealed, but perhaps Ob Nixilis could exchange deals with the last demons, seeing as they are now a target or just kill them over it. Ob Nixilis could try and use his authority over her to serve his malevolent interests. And It would definitely make the Lore of MTG much more interesting.
That intro music threw me off, i was about to change the video lol
Yep same , was preparing for a completely different voice.
So what are the names of the four demons?
What’s interesting is how closely mirrored Sylvanas is to Lilliana. Both out for power and to reclaim their soul.
Can they please make an RPG for a major game console? Would skyrocket sales guaranteed and planeswalker are great mascots such as how pokemon has mascots
Hmm, I'll skip this one, until i read the books. Wait! The books are barely avaliable anywhere! time to watch this video.
In the video you said she comes from an unknown plane; I thought it was confirmed that she comes from Dominaria?
+BionicKing yep, now confirmed. Probably why Nicol Bolas knows her
i love using her on my friends she is very good for my necromancer dec
what set of cards was she in???
most recently Eldritch moon.
Liliana and Jace are one of my most shipped couples of all time
Yo, it wasn't an unknown plain, she's from Domineria. Urbog, I believe. You damn kids!
Posted exactly one year ago!
How old is liliana vess? All places that state her age say "Over a century" years old, but her spark ignited before the mending. The mending was ages ago so shouldn't she be thousands of years old like sorin?? She still could be but it's odd that they say over a century and not many thousand years. . .
I wonder if they are ganna make a situation where she have to chose between save jayce her love or kill one of the demonlords? :3
Best Friend!
i just like to resurrect , search and raw power XD she s my faw plansvalker XD
Need to update this. Think they completely changed a lot of this.
Leiliana is like the professor snap of mtg
The Raven man? Something like the dude in Warcraft?
Dude in warcraft?
What about the other 2 demons
You should do Gideon sometime
He will have his story told soon
Tezzeret!!!! :D
lol cute zombie creature cool!
its fine but why do you use warcraft character arts?
A lot of this is card arts right?
Rook Talma Yes, although occasionally just random art.
WarcakeIV Scherer He also does a lot of WoW. He also use WoW music.
You need to update this because in hour of devastation she kills one more of the demons, razaketh
Nicol Bolas!!! :D
Anyone else annoyed by how he said he family banished her when her brother attacked her which made her spark ignite she didn’t see or speak to anyone after giving josu her “cure”
so the mighty Griselbrand got killed? Cool.
Immortal beans 2:39
So she is like the sylvanas windrunner of magic the gathering
indeed her story is full of gray areas instead.of just black and white facts
Dack Faden please
MY favorite planeswalker is jace,
Ever since i had a control deck
She's easy to relate to.
WEEEE!! my favorite character in the whole MTG!!!! thats my bitch right there!!! all i want now is my baby!! hurry up and kill your other 2 demons Liliana and go get prego by Jace... lets have a baby!!
Lmao that would be one powerful offspring, assuming it would be a planeswalker of course :)
ilike2cudance I think Liliana & Chandra would make much more lovely couple: 24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxcyzn6fIr1r3bmeoo1_500.jpg ;D and the baby... they could always steal ;)
Ex o Gf.s ooh great now we will have flaming undead zombies thats gonna be fun!!
ilike2cudance FINALLY a less boring Red-Black theme!
But she DID dispose of tezzeret!
CaptainPwnz she attempted to tezzeret survived the fight and is now being seen on kaledesh (sorry if i misspelled anything)
WHERE THE HELL DO YOU FIND MTG LORE
phill deschene Books, but if you want the short story just read on MTG Salvation, it's a very long, very complicated story, and most storylines end on a cliffhanger anyways. But they always come back to tie the lose ends one way or another ;)
I'm curious of the same thing, even trying to find the specific books seems kind of difficult depending on the bits of lore you try to delve into. Like where do you find any of this stuff in regards to her pre-mending?
shell give it to jace
Subnatica intro music
Never really had a favorite Planeswalker, but now knowing the lore here, Liliana might just be the first. Kind of disappointing that Jace is a love interest. Mind magic is cool, and I like playing with blue, but Jace just bores the hell out of me lore-wise.
bring me death & ill bring you trinkets and gold.
Okay. I'm just going the to point this out once. They are two different characters but they're names are just too simular. Liliana Vess and Lilian Voss from WoW. Till me that is just a coincidence.
my waifu
Twin tether?
I hope she does for the shit she did to Garruk
gg
jj?
I love the videos, but there are a few issues I take with it. The biggest thing is that the word "cast" is it's own past tense, and "casted" is only used in terms of acting and theatre. Keep up the good work, though.