Chessvibes means only Magnus and Hikaru exists lol just joking he means what a normal player would do is to mate a ladder mate and not Aman ofcourse because he did not even CONSIDER a ladder mate lol
The game was an IM against a GM. It's polite to resign when your loss is guaranteed, to save both players' time, because you know that your opponent knows how to checkmate you
I watched GM Ben Finegold do this to a subscriber quite a while ago. It's hilarious. Saw another video where he tried again but accidentally made two of the same color bishops and said it was the worst day of his life. Lol
Did Ben Finegold use this (or maybe a similar) line? Only the last few moves are critical. Getting the king to the 2nd to last rank could have been done in fewer moves. But since he was pre-moving and had only 2-3 seconds left, it makes sense to just memorise a pre-calculated sequence that's guaranteed to get the desired result, and then just pre-moving all the moves.
This started with Finegold. It was actually not a real game by Finegold...Finegold actually scripted it. According to many discord users, Aman Hambleton then scripted a game in which he used it. Basically, This trick has never been used in a actual real game. Its only been used in staged content.
Having 6 pawns vs a similar rated player would be so hard to accomplish in real life. But, that’s one of the coolest ways to troll someone I’ve ever seen
As Nelson said, you can analyse the line and understand this is a guaranteed mating sequence where nothing can go wrong unless the king was in a 'bad' starting position. Once you know how to do it and got it memorised, you just premove everything. It's just how fast you can move the mouse, so 5 sec, 3 sec, 2 sec, isn't incredible - the hard work figuring it out has already been done.
Here's how you do it: Move here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here,.
Even remembering all of this and being willing to do it in a real match against an IM with low time is impressive in itself What makes this truly ridiculous is that the end was ALL PREMOVES. Somehow he has memorized how to do this so well that he could execute it without hesitating at all. That is some next-level dedication to disrespect.
@@masteroogway2438 no that’s still not inventing something. That’s simply giving it attention. This line was already invented, nothing you say will change that.
He clearly figured out the guaranteed mating sequence beforehand. As Nelson points out, memorising the last ~20 moves isn't all that hard. Practice a few times, and you're good to go if you are lucky enough to get the other required conditions.
A lot of people are saying Ben Finegold did it first, so I'd just like to let people know that there is a video of Aman doing this in 2020. This is not first time he's done it. It's just this time it's against an IM, and it was all premoves.
Chess arbiter here. In my practice I saw a player setting up his pieces all the way down to their initial places only once, but without the checkmate part, which is new to me. Old idea with fresh touch, wow! Stubborness giving a birth to a new level of disrespec, what do you know.
"I'd rather not have to re-setup the board after the game. Instead I'm going to do 7 promotions, walk the pieces back to their starting squares, be careful the whole time not to stalemate, also be careful not to mess up this overly elaborate mating pattern, and then still have to re-setup the pawns afterward anyway."
The trick with the pawns (vs all the other pieces) is that it won't matter which one you pick up and where on the remaining starting squares you place them. ;-)
A few months back I was watching some Ben Finegold clips and he was chatting with his wife while playing students or stream followers and he did this exact checkmate. He promoted all of his pawns to his starting pieces and escorted the king to the second rank. It's odd he got no recognition for it.
"It's odd he got no recognition for it." Not quite that odd considering he didn't do it first, so.... There's video proof of Aman doing it since 2020, and he might have been doing it even longer. Fingold just jumped on this mate when it became viral, he isn't really special for that.
I learned this from a friend back in the 1970s, and I have called it after him since then. I have routinely used it against players who refuse to resign in informal games and blitz. Urquhart's Mate is what i will always call it. Thanks Don.
I reached 1000 rapid today since creating my account around 8 months ago. Pretty cool to finally get there. A little worried about cheaters getting more common going forward but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
@Kuest0786 ok good for you, people learn at different speeds and I had a lot of times where I was tilting for even days at a time not getting anywhere.
If they don't resign at any point during this beautiful, elaborate mess of a checkmate, and then they get upset enough to quit chess, the chess world is better off without them.
Wrong side of history? You mean the side with narcissists, eating buttholes and having thirty spouses that you have orgies with every night, with BDSM and losing all free speech? Or the side with compassion, tender affection, monogamy, mercy and freedoms?
The best response after initially not resigning would be to catch on two what your opponents is up to and then before they can see the plan to its conclusion, resign
I also do the same in this situation, I always promote all my original pieces and put them back to the starting square. I did it so many times and it is so much fun.
Note that it may be useful when placing the GM logo, this does not indicate that he is one of the great chess players, this means that he is a chess player, and when placing the IM or IM logo, this indicates that he is one of the great professional players in the world, and its meaning is I'm, meaning I am the world champion, while GM is an abbreviation for the word GM or unknown player from the champions
In hindsight, it should have been easy to figure out. Just reverse engineer it: put your pieces in the starting position, ask yourself where the enemy king needs to be for a checkmate in that position, then figure out what the previous move had to be to force the king there, then figure out the move preceding that move, the move preceding that move, etc. You know what they say about hindsight though. I'd have never thought to begin figuring this out. It's brilliant.
I just did this too! Thank you for the lesson, that was fun and I've never memorized 20 moves in a row before. I didn't know I could do that, which makes me want to teach this to others.
I once got a game where I managed to promote 4 pawns to queens and then placed them in all four corners. The guy had been extremely rude over chat, so I wanted to embarrass him a little.
I remember hearing about this before a chess game with a friend. The guy telling us didn't say he checkmated in the starting position though. Anyways, he said I should put all my pieces back on their spots before checkmating, so I did, and my friend put his King back on it's original spot too
1:39 To be clear, I didn't mean Aman is an intermediate player lol.
Thought , man Nelson's standards are so high !!! 🤣
Fyi, Aman didn't invent this. Ben Finegold does this all the time.
@@chriselcombe847 Wait what!
@@ChessVibesOfficial Google "ben finegold sets up for next game"
Chessvibes means only Magnus and Hikaru exists lol just joking he means what a normal player would do is to mate a ladder mate and not Aman ofcourse because he did not even CONSIDER a ladder mate lol
The fact that he’s doing all this with 2 seconds on the clock is even more impressive.
Hikaru would be proud
I believe the sequence of movements is such that it always work, so he can premove everything
It’s call time delay
Dude asked for the most elaborate mate by not resigning.
20 year old german and Coach already lol
He got respect to appreciate the beauty.
Facts
@@Bruh-bk6yo 💯
Absolutely called for when someone’s holding out hoping for a “out of time vs. Insufficient material” draw.
Imagine disrespecting you opponent on the level of setting up the board BEFORE the level ends
The game was an IM against a GM. It's polite to resign when your loss is guaranteed, to save both players' time, because you know that your opponent knows how to checkmate you
That's why you need to resign when the game is clearly lost. If you don't, you deserve to be trolled.
I watched GM Ben Finegold do this to a subscriber quite a while ago. It's hilarious. Saw another video where he tried again but accidentally made two of the same color bishops and said it was the worst day of his life. Lol
What is this video called? I love Ben and need to see it.
Did Ben Finegold use this (or maybe a similar) line? Only the last few moves are critical. Getting the king to the 2nd to last rank could have been done in fewer moves. But since he was pre-moving and had only 2-3 seconds left, it makes sense to just memorise a pre-calculated sequence that's guaranteed to get the desired result, and then just pre-moving all the moves.
This started with Finegold. It was actually not a real game by Finegold...Finegold actually scripted it. According to many discord users, Aman Hambleton then scripted a game in which he used it. Basically, This trick has never been used in a actual real game. Its only been used in staged content.
I'm pretty sure I've seen Ben do this once or twice. Maybe not this move order.
Having 6 pawns vs a similar rated player would be so hard to accomplish in real life. But, that’s one of the coolest ways to troll someone I’ve ever seen
Only fair because he refused to resign.
I did it the other day!
He started trolling early
The most remarkable thing is that Aman did the whole thing in less than 10 seconds and the 20 move mate in under three seconds!
As Nelson said, you can analyse the line and understand this is a guaranteed mating sequence where nothing can go wrong unless the king was in a 'bad' starting position. Once you know how to do it and got it memorised, you just premove everything. It's just how fast you can move the mouse, so 5 sec, 3 sec, 2 sec, isn't incredible - the hard work figuring it out has already been done.
Nelson: walking away after winning otb at a tournament
Opponent: wait, your pawns!
New mate in 20 unlocked.
Without pawns
MARTIN -- 250 elo
NELSON -- 2501 ELO
CONCLUSION -- 1 ELO makes a huge difference
😂😂😂😂
Lol
You do know 2501 means that Neslon’s way better right? It’s more than 1 elo
@@light_switch708of course someone didn't get the joke
@@jampi_2008 ik it was now it wasn’t obvious though
Here's how you do it: Move here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here,.
Oops. I moved there.
Thanks, I missed one of those and couldn't figure out how to do it
@@Orosian5 Big mistake!
@@maxscott3349 np i’m here to help!
@@maxscott3349 np I help where help is needed!
If anyone complains, it's their own fault for not resigning with king only vs half an army.
Never resign, your opponent might blunder
@@UloPe not a GM and not half of their pieces
@@UloPeHoping that a GM will blunder a stalemate in this position is as disrespectful as what the GM did
@@cegalleta8/16 is half
Never resign, your opponent might get an heart attack
2:12 bro turned into hikaru
Fr
we’re talking about THIIIIIIS
nah that would be "takes takes takes..."
Maximum disrespect: open with the bongcloud then finish with this.
i love how chess is such a versatile game that people figured this silliness out
Even remembering all of this and being willing to do it in a real match against an IM with low time is impressive in itself
What makes this truly ridiculous is that the end was ALL PREMOVES. Somehow he has memorized how to do this so well that he could execute it without hesitating at all. That is some next-level dedication to disrespect.
@@ChristomirRackovhe did not invent this but it’s still extremely impressive to memorize it and play it in a time scramble.
@@AnthonyGonzalez-zy5zmhe invented it he’s made multiple videos describing it
@@masteroogway2438 no that’s still not inventing something. That’s simply giving it attention. This line was already invented, nothing you say will change that.
He clearly figured out the guaranteed mating sequence beforehand. As Nelson points out, memorising the last ~20 moves isn't all that hard. Practice a few times, and you're good to go if you are lucky enough to get the other required conditions.
I was wondering how there is no 50 move rule violation, didn’t realize pawn moves reset the count
That rule is lame
Next challenge: What is highest rated bot that this can be accomplished against?
2:29 - this is Hikaru style :))
Not resigning is always an invitation for a free lesson ;-)
Imagine if he resigned right before the checkmate 😂
An annoying reply to his disrespect👌🏼 opponent's hardwork into garbage😂
Come on, at that point you become so curious yourself what he's actually doing, no way you can resign.
Don’t forget to mention he did this all within a few seconds of premoving
Yeah you can see it on the timer lmao
I never even thought about the fact that you have to promote your bishops on opposite colored squares. That's wild.
loooll
You also can't promote all of your pawns at once, because you run the risk of getting a draw by the 50-move rule.
@@christopherheckman7957that’s super rare, after even one promotion one generally has a clear advantage
@@christopherheckman7957I didn't even think about that! The 50 move rule could ruin the reset mate if you're not careful.
You almost had this in a real game yesterday…
A lot of people are saying Ben Finegold did it first, so I'd just like to let people know that there is a video of Aman doing this in 2020. This is not first time he's done it. It's just this time it's against an IM, and it was all premoves.
I feel like Finegold has been doing it for well over a year. He even did a sideways one a couple weeks ago.
And by "I feel like" I mean I know he did because I've watched him do it at least 3 different times.
Aman first did it 2020.
1:25 just do a quick simple queen checkmate and then you have a lot of time to set up the board again 🤦♂️
Me following a cheat sheet with my smartphone at a chess tournament:
- Magnus: "is your phone vibrating?"
Chess arbiter here. In my practice I saw a player setting up his pieces all the way down to their initial places only once, but without the checkmate part, which is new to me. Old idea with fresh touch, wow! Stubborness giving a birth to a new level of disrespec, what do you know.
My face was actually in disgust when I saw the mate
"I'd rather not have to re-setup the board after the game. Instead I'm going to do 7 promotions, walk the pieces back to their starting squares, be careful the whole time not to stalemate, also be careful not to mess up this overly elaborate mating pattern, and then still have to re-setup the pawns afterward anyway."
The trick with the pawns (vs all the other pieces) is that it won't matter which one you pick up and where on the remaining starting squares you place them. ;-)
@@irrelevant_noob Ah yes I can see how chess masters might struggle with remembering which of the pieces goes where. Thanks for pointing that out.
@@John73John requiring less effort doesn't mean the default would've been a struggle. -.-
A few months back I was watching some Ben Finegold clips and he was chatting with his wife while playing students or stream followers and he did this exact checkmate. He promoted all of his pawns to his starting pieces and escorted the king to the second rank. It's odd he got no recognition for it.
Ben Finegold does this frequently, yeah.
"It's odd he got no recognition for it."
Not quite that odd considering he didn't do it first, so.... There's video proof of Aman doing it since 2020, and he might have been doing it even longer. Fingold just jumped on this mate when it became viral, he isn't really special for that.
@@x_MoonlitShade Are you sure about every single one of your assertions?
This game was pure sadism, and should've been labeled a war crime. Glorious.
2:12 Bro obviously think he's Nakamura 😂
Wow , that's incredible ! Fancy being able to even conceive of such an idea , then to work out a learnable method !! Hats off !!!!
I learned this from a friend back in the 1970s, and I have called it after him since then. I have routinely used it against players who refuse to resign in informal games and blitz. Urquhart's Mate is what i will always call it. Thanks Don.
I just did it against Martin myself (900)
I reached 1000 rapid today since creating my account around 8 months ago. Pretty cool to finally get there. A little worried about cheaters getting more common going forward but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
Nice man
1000 in 8 months ? wtf… I needed 2 or 3 weeks for this… 1000 is pretty low…
@@Kuest0786some ppl learn faster some dont. No need to be an a*shole about it
@Kuest0786 ok good for you, people learn at different speeds and I had a lot of times where I was tilting for even days at a time not getting anywhere.
@Kuest0786 wow you are insufferable. How does it feel to have zero friends?
“do your worst” ahh game 😭🙏
It’s so brilliant you spent 15 minutes setting the board instead of 30 seconds
If they don't resign at any point during this beautiful, elaborate mess of a checkmate, and then they get upset enough to quit chess, the chess world is better off without them.
Bruhhh!! the amount of mockery in that game is deadly.
The craziest thing about this is that the checkmate position doesn't even look like it would be checkmate on first glance...
The Machine came out on the wrong side of history
Wrong side of history? You mean the side with narcissists, eating buttholes and having thirty spouses that you have orgies with every night, with BDSM and losing all free speech? Or the side with compassion, tender affection, monogamy, mercy and freedoms?
Nastiest thing is he calculated this checkmate 100 moves before end of game. And removed nearly ALL the moves 🤯
Disrespect by not resigning a losing position. Disrespect by making him an example in another amazing checkmate for the ages.
Hardest part of this challenge is finding an opponent that doesn't surrender
0:28 how is that even possible without checkmating the king earlier 🤨
King do be dodgin today😅
disrespect gambit: reconstruction variation
This ending is also known as the Ben Finegold Immortal
Bro was playing stock fish 25 levels
This is a chess analogue of breaking Elder Scrolls games with alchemy loops.
This man has achieved chim on the board.
I remember that Aman Hambleton came up with this! So fun.
The fact it goes viral now though, that was yeaaaars ago.
This is the best checkmate I have ever seen in my life.
The positions at 0:30 and 0:39 are impossible.
A bit of a faux pas!
Needed co-operation from both sides ... Imagine how he would feel when the opponent resigns when he is about to set the last piece in place
Why are you doing this? - Because I can.
has this dude ever figured out martin always takes when his piece can't be taken back, he doesn't trade
2:12 it's giving Hikaru
2:12 here here here here here here
he figured that last part out with 2.8 seconds on the clock whatt
He's got swag for sure. Styling on someone so hard because they disrespect you by not conceding.
Hysterical 😂 The time he saved setting up the board again, he spent extending the game
The best response after initially not resigning would be to catch on two what your opponents is up to and then before they can see the plan to its conclusion, resign
2:11
Bro really thinks he's Hikaru!
I also do the same in this situation, I always promote all my original pieces and put them back to the starting square. I did it so many times and it is so much fun.
Just found out that my 32 rule It has not been used by the world for a long time. It was still very common in the 70s and 80s
Note that it may be useful when placing the GM logo, this does not indicate that he is one of the great chess players, this means that he is a chess player, and when placing the IM or IM logo, this indicates that he is one of the great professional players in the world, and its meaning is I'm, meaning I am the world champion, while GM is an abbreviation for the word GM or unknown player from the champions
2:12 close your eyes and think of any chess game ever, you will hear Nelson narrating it
That's called cooperative mate.
Man, and people thought the bong cloud opening is rude.
In hindsight, it should have been easy to figure out. Just reverse engineer it: put your pieces in the starting position, ask yourself where the enemy king needs to be for a checkmate in that position, then figure out what the previous move had to be to force the king there, then figure out the move preceding that move, the move preceding that move, etc. You know what they say about hindsight though. I'd have never thought to begin figuring this out. It's brilliant.
i did it with 1800 elo bot but I can not send the game because links are deleted
I think the worst way to lose is if you're caught in this way.
He premoved like 50 moves in under 9 secs , shit is insane
In the past I've looked at how you could get this mate but I always assumed it wasn't possible.
Thumbnail is legal if the queen moved first
Fun to show live with someone- “Just start with your king and play like it matters, trust me it’s cool”
This was not done under 32 moves so it was a stalemate
Good to see Martin back again. I missed good ol' Martin.
The sheer disrespect of this maneuver! 🤯
I just did this too! Thank you for the lesson, that was fun and I've never memorized 20 moves in a row before. I didn't know I could do that, which makes me want to teach this to others.
I've done that playing chess with my younger brother when he was a kid, but not the reset part.
Imagine you are 1 move away and opponent claims draw by 50 move rule.
Well that wouldn't be a valid claim, so the game would continue.
I once got a game where I managed to promote 4 pawns to queens and then placed them in all four corners. The guy had been extremely rude over chat, so I wanted to embarrass him a little.
Imagine if the opponent resigned on the last move before the checkmate :p
Someone did that in game? Unbelievable.
Aman finds a new way to disrespect people every week
I thought there was a stalemate rule for no pieces captured after 50 moves?
No pieces captured or no pawn moves. If a piece is captured, or if a pawn moves, the count is reset.
Yep, pawn moves reset the counter. Also a draw by the 50 move rule is not stalemate; it's a draw by the 50 move rule.
2:14 bro I’m not hikaru chill
I remember hearing about this before a chess game with a friend. The guy telling us didn't say he checkmated in the starting position though. Anyways, he said I should put all my pieces back on their spots before checkmating, so I did, and my friend put his King back on it's original spot too
Istg "here" has to be chess players favourite word
This is pure Ben Finegold stuff.
Ben finegold did this a long time ago in a stream
Yeah, I blundered around and succeeded in roughly 20 moves... it is tricky.
2:29 clearly 💀
And where do you put this piece? That's right, it goes on the starting square.
I could do this. Against Martin. With no clock. … 😐
2:41 Look at the time 0:00.9 :O
I remember seeing a video of Ben Finegold doing this years ago