As someone that is going to have their first pool and has a lot of questions about all this stuff, this video is really what I needed. Thank you so much
Oversizing the cell is really the key. As someone who worked in the pool industry for a dozen or so years, thank you for this video. So much truth here. People always just thought we were trying to upsell when really we were trying to make their lives easier.
Very good video! I really never wanted to have a pool, but bought a house with one. you covered all the bases. I do like salt over chlorine for all the reasons you mention... I do think about filling it in all the time though!
Not only are you good at Eufy stuff, which I’ve been following you recently, you’re excellent at salt water pool stuff as well. I’m a newly Eufy user and a long time salt water pool. Everything you described is accurate so, thumbs up !!!
I spent about $60 in total chemicals last year (e.g. calcium and reducing phosphates). I set my cell to 30% and make sure my pump is set to turn over the water the recommended amount of time per day. That’s it. I have my water tested every 2-3 weeks and 95 % of the time, they say the water is perfect. IMO Saltwater is easy and far less expensive.
A lot of inaccurate info. The chlorine level in a salt pool is less not the same. Conditioner level does go down and must be added periodically. It feels a whole lot better on your skin. (And eyes) Their is a very noticeable difference in maintenance hours. I had a chlorine pool at it was hell on me extreme eczema then converted and it's hardly noticeable now. I add a bag of salt about once a year which is roughly what you said. Muriadic acid about once a month. And I don't clean my cell as much as I should but I'd say you were pretty accurate on that. Also add calcium at the same frequency as when it was a traditional pool. Overall salt is less maintenance and feels a lot better. I will never consider a traditional pool again.
SMH..... did you actually watch the whole video? The only reason your chlorine levels would be lower is if your CYA is lower, with the same amount of CYA in the water, the chlorine level should be exactly the same between a salt pool and a chlorine pool to maintain a properly disinfected pool. Eye and skin irritation is caused by unbalanced ph or chloramines (not chlorine), you'll have chloramine issues more often is traditional pools because people allow the chlorine to drop too low, then shock the pool (which causes breakdown of the gunk that's been allowed to build up in the pool while the chlorine was low). This doesn't happen as often in salt pools because SWG's keep the chlorine at a constant and therefore we don't significant drops in chlorine thus necessitating shocking. Aside from that, the points where you seem to be contradicting me in your post, I address in the video.
Chlorine pools actually have significantly lower levels of chlorine. Any pro or pro site will tell you that. Also I keep all my test results and it shows that the recommended amounts lowered when I converted. I have to add conditioner more frequently because I'm in Houston. Constant rain/evaporation/adding water. But I have it checked constantly and it's usually spot on. Regarding the skin irritation that doesn't sound right but regardless it's irrelevant. If that were true then it would still be a common occurrence in a chlorine pool so still a problem. But I've stayed in many 4-5 star places and chlorine always effects me because of my eczema. Salt pools don't bother me that much, in fact it's barely noticeable when I swim in them. Just look at pentair or Haywards websites. They both confirm what I said. 2ppm vs 3ppm which is a very noticeable difference. Not trying to be an as just trying to keep it accurate since many people are going to be taking advice from an online vid so accuracy is important, especially for people like me with severe skin issues that still love swimming
@@slinkyjosh78 You're missing the point. The amount of chlorine needed to be an effective sanitizer has a direct correlation to the amount of CYA in the pool. Salt pools typically have less CYA because they are not having their CYA levels increased by stabilized chlorine. A salt pool and a chlorine pool, given the same amount of CYA, will require the exact same amount of chlorine. Period. Chloramines doesn't sound right? Im not making this stuff up, scroll on down "How chlorine effects Eczema", second paragraph. It's not chlorine that's your issue, it's combined chlorine (chloramines). Commercial pools are notorious for problems with combined chlorine. If you can smell it, at all, there's a problem. clearcomfort.com/prevent-flare-ups-eczema-and-swimming-pool-chlorine/#:~:text=While%20chlorine%20itself%20can%20contribute,care%2C%20hair%20products%20or%20urea.
@@DoItYourselfDadtechnically both can go down to 1ppm and be effective, but it doesn't matter. Traditional pools have a wider range which makes their median accessible chlorine higher. But again that doesn't matter it's the practical application of the real life situations that are relevant. Salt pools outside of a controlled lab environment will have less chlorine. I'm not basing my skin irritation issues off of my experience with public pools although I did reference nicer resorts. 1. I've had and maintained my own traditional pool for years and always kept everything in range. 2. I spent a lot of time in nicer resorts including secluded ones where their wasn't much traffic and had dedicated staff maintaining the pools at least once a day. 3. I grew up with a pool and had a live in pool boy take care of it and I was pretty much the only one that ever swam in it. Bottom line is perfect scenarios don't matter even though I've been in near perfect scenarios more than enough for me to gage the results. What matters is the real world results such as if 80+% of the traditional pools damage our skin then that's what is relevant not the perfect situation which will almost never be achieved
I’ll say it one more time: Chloramines (combines chlorine) is your issue, not free chlorine. The fact that you acknowledged above you don’t know what I’m talking about when referencing chloramines says enough. Also, if you had a pool with 1ppm chlorine the only way it would be effective is if it had 0 CYA and not ever exposed to any UV light. The half life for non stabilized chlorine when exposed to UV light is 20-40 minutes, so the only way that would work is if the pool was indoors with no windows. When exposed to UV chlorine breaks down into hydrochloric acid, guess what that does to your skin and eyes? Also with noting that with 1ppm of chlorine, once that chlorine doesn’t its job, it will become combined chlorine (those pesky Chloramines again) without ample free chlorine to break down the combined chlorine you’ve got a problem on your hands.
As someone that is going to have their first pool and has a lot of questions about all this stuff, this video is really what I needed.
Thank you so much
Thanks! Are you in the building process already?
Oversizing the cell is really the key. As someone who worked in the pool industry for a dozen or so years, thank you for this video. So much truth here. People always just thought we were trying to upsell when really we were trying to make their lives easier.
Thanks! Soooooo glad I oversized the cell and the pump.
Very good video! I really never wanted to have a pool, but bought a house with one. you covered all the bases. I do like salt over chlorine for all the reasons you mention... I do think about filling it in all the time though!
Glad it was helpful!
Not only are you good at Eufy stuff, which I’ve been following you recently, you’re excellent at salt water pool stuff as well. I’m a newly Eufy user and a long time salt water pool. Everything you described is accurate so, thumbs up !!!
Great video! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
I spent about $60 in total chemicals last year (e.g. calcium and reducing phosphates). I set my cell to 30% and make sure my pump is set to turn over the water the recommended amount of time per day. That’s it. I have my water tested every 2-3 weeks and 95 % of the time, they say the water is perfect. IMO Saltwater is easy and far less expensive.
How big is your pool ?
Commercial chemical chlorine is different than salt generated chlorine and is easier on the skin.
A lot of inaccurate info. The chlorine level in a salt pool is less not the same. Conditioner level does go down and must be added periodically. It feels a whole lot better on your skin. (And eyes) Their is a very noticeable difference in maintenance hours. I had a chlorine pool at it was hell on me extreme eczema then converted and it's hardly noticeable now. I add a bag of salt about once a year which is roughly what you said. Muriadic acid about once a month. And I don't clean my cell as much as I should but I'd say you were pretty accurate on that. Also add calcium at the same frequency as when it was a traditional pool. Overall salt is less maintenance and feels a lot better. I will never consider a traditional pool again.
SMH..... did you actually watch the whole video?
The only reason your chlorine levels would be lower is if your CYA is lower, with the same amount of CYA in the water, the chlorine level should be exactly the same between a salt pool and a chlorine pool to maintain a properly disinfected pool.
Eye and skin irritation is caused by unbalanced ph or chloramines (not chlorine), you'll have chloramine issues more often is traditional pools because people allow the chlorine to drop too low, then shock the pool (which causes breakdown of the gunk that's been allowed to build up in the pool while the chlorine was low). This doesn't happen as often in salt pools because SWG's keep the chlorine at a constant and therefore we don't significant drops in chlorine thus necessitating shocking.
Aside from that, the points where you seem to be contradicting me in your post, I address in the video.
Chlorine pools actually have significantly lower levels of chlorine. Any pro or pro site will tell you that. Also I keep all my test results and it shows that the recommended amounts lowered when I converted. I have to add conditioner more frequently because I'm in Houston. Constant rain/evaporation/adding water. But I have it checked constantly and it's usually spot on.
Regarding the skin irritation that doesn't sound right but regardless it's irrelevant. If that were true then it would still be a common occurrence in a chlorine pool so still a problem. But I've stayed in many 4-5 star places and chlorine always effects me because of my eczema. Salt pools don't bother me that much, in fact it's barely noticeable when I swim in them. Just look at pentair or Haywards websites. They both confirm what I said. 2ppm vs 3ppm which is a very noticeable difference. Not trying to be an as just trying to keep it accurate since many people are going to be taking advice from an online vid so accuracy is important, especially for people like me with severe skin issues that still love swimming
@@slinkyjosh78 You're missing the point. The amount of chlorine needed to be an effective sanitizer has a direct correlation to the amount of CYA in the pool. Salt pools typically have less CYA because they are not having their CYA levels increased by stabilized chlorine. A salt pool and a chlorine pool, given the same amount of CYA, will require the exact same amount of chlorine. Period.
Chloramines doesn't sound right? Im not making this stuff up, scroll on down "How chlorine effects Eczema", second paragraph. It's not chlorine that's your issue, it's combined chlorine (chloramines). Commercial pools are notorious for problems with combined chlorine. If you can smell it, at all, there's a problem.
clearcomfort.com/prevent-flare-ups-eczema-and-swimming-pool-chlorine/#:~:text=While%20chlorine%20itself%20can%20contribute,care%2C%20hair%20products%20or%20urea.
@@DoItYourselfDadtechnically both can go down to 1ppm and be effective, but it doesn't matter. Traditional pools have a wider range which makes their median accessible chlorine higher. But again that doesn't matter it's the practical application of the real life situations that are relevant. Salt pools outside of a controlled lab environment will have less chlorine.
I'm not basing my skin irritation issues off of my experience with public pools although I did reference nicer resorts.
1. I've had and maintained my own traditional pool for years and always kept everything in range.
2. I spent a lot of time in nicer resorts including secluded ones where their wasn't much traffic and had dedicated staff maintaining the pools at least once a day.
3. I grew up with a pool and had a live in pool boy take care of it and I was pretty much the only one that ever swam in it.
Bottom line is perfect scenarios don't matter even though I've been in near perfect scenarios more than enough for me to gage the results. What matters is the real world results such as if 80+% of the traditional pools damage our skin then that's what is relevant not the perfect situation which will almost never be achieved
I’ll say it one more time: Chloramines (combines chlorine) is your issue, not free chlorine. The fact that you acknowledged above you don’t know what I’m talking about when referencing chloramines says enough.
Also, if you had a pool with 1ppm chlorine the only way it would be effective is if it had 0 CYA and not ever exposed to any UV light. The half life for non stabilized chlorine when exposed to UV light is 20-40 minutes, so the only way that would work is if the pool was indoors with no windows. When exposed to UV chlorine breaks down into hydrochloric acid, guess what that does to your skin and eyes?
Also with noting that with 1ppm of chlorine, once that chlorine doesn’t its job, it will become combined chlorine (those pesky Chloramines again) without ample free chlorine to break down the combined chlorine you’ve got a problem on your hands.