I do 50-90ft wf work daily for 8months of the year. Were running 120psi split between up to 4 poles. Its all about the scrub and rinse. Gotta be thorough. Absolutely gotta keep the tds runnin no higher than 20 for hydrophobic, can push it closer to 50 for hydrophillic. We do 5-10k windows a month from residential to large commerical accounts.
I'm struggling here, spent $5,000.00 on the ultimate, 1st job is coming up and 60 ft of the unknown awaits me... Call me if you can help. Award Window Cleaning /Carlsbad Ca USA...Just have a bunch of newbie questions. I'll trade you a quick 5 star review for 5 min of your expert advice.
This demonstration brings about an entirely new set of questions that I have about the efficacy of WFP at extreme heights. I'm experienced in rope access and I just have a difficult time believing that the finished product at 90' would pass your quality of workmanship standards. Does it?
@@ScottWConvid19 rope skipping wow allways wanten to do that but my wife was not in for it and now i'm almost 56 so maybe in my next life 🤣 i'm a window cleaner for 32 years now and Belgium is so far behind Amerika and the Uk have a lot more and better tools . For my wfp work i have the pure 20 by ionic and when i do Windows at 55 feet i see that the pressure on mij bruch is on its limit . Yes the poles from ionic are not that ridgit , i know 👍 just keep it safe there be bkessed and love watching all of your video's
@@wernervandersteenen946 yeah, I'm 50 in two months. I've been cleaning windows since 92. I started out doing commercial high rise and found my niche in residential, for quality. Rope work is safer than climbing a two-story ladder. It's never too late to learn. We're not getting any younger. I actually think rope work might be safer than WFP in some cases.
Finally. This is what I've been wanting to see before I buy this setup. I've never been certain on the correct way to add the sections to the bottom. Thank you.
That’s insane. The cleaning can’t be that detailed, but hey, you’re doing it. Wild stuff. Just send me over the wall with some ropes and a bucket. You obviously don’t clean that entire building with the WFP but it’s wild to see it that high!
Well it's not like people can walk right up and look at it. Honestly they probably are just doing it to help preserve the life of the glass and to make it a little bit shinier. My question is, do they do the uppers standing on the roof working down or what?
I’ve had to clean windows up to 7 stories high with a WFP system and they turned out superb. Things could definitely go wrong, but with the right technique and training nothing should
Great video! I have to say there's a difference between putting a pole up 90 feet and actually working at 90 feet. You will not be doing it for long and not sustain injuries. I'm 230 pounds and do powerlifting just to be able to face my 6 and 7 story jobs every year. They are a marathon of pain and stress. Plus I'm using top of the line Gardiner poles (Xtreme and Ultimate) which are lighter and stiffer. 90 feet is just not sustainable or realistic. Also, please don't put your hose on the inside for commercial jobs. Keep up the good work! Awesome footage ;)
Yes I have to agree. I'm on a job right now with my gardiner ultimate 74 ft fully extended on a few sets of windows and even that height is very slow and exhausting! 90 ft doesn't seem realistic. Also not being fully telescopic seems more dangerous. I know adding extensions to my nlite pole at height can be a little sketchy. Especially if you have to walk away from a 60 plus ft pole. That's a big no no in my book. To big a risk at that height to not keep somebody holding the pole at all times. Just my two cents but I am curious about the rigidity of the destroyer vs ultimate.
@@truelueck1763 Inside pole hose is a UK and European residential wfp tradition that was misunderstood and propagated by a few silly dealers who brought their product to N America. It was originally and still is used for regular, monthly residential work in the UK/Europe because it's faster for lower work and jobs take only minutes. They also don't drop sections. It eliminates a step of attaching the hose because they use small vans that allow the operator to simply pull the pole out of the back and run up to the job. For high work though pole hose outside of the pole is better. It's easier to clean the outside of the pole than it is the inside and an internal hose will bring dirt up into it that wears the pole out from the inside. Also, when dropping down a layer you can lighten the pole by simply pulling off and dropping sections. This is only possible with an externally run hose. Dropping sections allows an operator to work faster and for longer.
Back in the day I did a 60ft tucker pole job using an aluminum pole with 12 foot add on extensions (when full assembled we referred to it as "The Heinous Device"... I only had a 5am-7am window once a month to do this crazy overhang entry... and the wind always blew 45 mph out of the north then... I got it done, but it nearly killed me. I would really like to see how that thing handles compared to the heinous device...
Hey my good man how are you I got a question ask xero destroyer working at 90 ft set up water feed pole I see that you guys had it all the way to 90 ft but there was other three more floors up above how did you guys clean those
A gooseneck would just add weight. We work regularly at 70+ feet with wfp's. An ounce at 80 feet feels like 10 pounds at the ground. A gooseneck is commonly used by wfp users who use a floppy pole that buckles under its own weight and smacks the building as a result. The gooseneck brings the pole a few inches out from the building to avoid smacking. This is not the the solution. A stiffer and lighter pole is. That I believe is the Gardiner Xtreme and Ultimate poles.
I would like to see you do the left or right of the building because the pole will go from left to right at these hights , i go unto 65 feet and if you dont have a outcoming wall to stop your brush it wil go pas the corner and down to the ground
Weird to be afraid of heights when you are safely on the gound.... 🤔 Just kidding! We know the type of control this takes and it is not for the faint of heart!
Impressive...but to work that pole at that height even more impressive. For sure every move has to be calculated so as not to lose control. How much does the entire 90' pole weigh with brush, hose and add water???
we just want to know to how get these contracts who are you contacting what's the hole process cause we all know this job is for sure over 15,000 bucks to do the hole building
Dont bother putting the hose through the pole. Let it hang without push connects, one continuous hose, no connectors means less points of failure. Just hold it with your hand and be careful with it. An area like that would in most cases be sectioned off with cones, tape etc so as long as the hose is controlled it will save a ton of time. You can also strap it on the outside of the pole on the way up.
How do I attach the tubing without using the push connect that is directly attached to the brush? I'm struggling here, spent $5,000.00 on the ultimate, 1st job is coming up and 60 ft of the unknown awaits me... Call me if you can help. Award Window Cleaning /Carlsbad Ca USA
I could see a little bit of wind really ruining your day lol. Water fed has its place in certain circumstances, but this one … unfortunately you better just hop your ass in the chair. Good video though !
Watching this at 90' gives you no room for a wind gust. I'd strongly suggest anything over 60' you'll need someone to assist you, especially with add-ons and at no time have the pole sitting by itself unattended... My setup is 55' on it's own, 60' plus when pushing it up. I have come across unexpected wind gusts from hell and no matter how ridged that pole is the wind still moves it and you'll need to counter that wind... It's much harder than you guys make it look... Everyone should practice at a comfortable level before taking on these kind of jobs... Good luck and keep an eye on the wind before you start.
We always urge our customers to err on the side of caution and always observe safety measures. You bring up great points, and the wind is definitely a factor for most situations!
This seems counterproductive in the sense that it would be more efficient to just hang with a roof rigging. A pole fed system over 60 feet is completely unnecessary in my opinion.
Keep in mind, not every building has proper anchor points to safely hang from the roof. Then theres people who'd prefer to stay on the ground and clean windows with a setup like this, which is very efficient.
Come on , just have the hose outside , ju make sure it’s wrapped around thr pole , Having your hand holding 50ft while your other hand is trying feed rest of thr hose so can put on the other pole 🤷♂️
How do I attach the tubing without using the push connect that is directly attached to the brush? I'm struggling here, spent $5,000.00 on the ultimate, 1st job is coming up and 70 ft of the unknown awaits me... Call me if you can help. Award Window Cleaning /Carlsbad Ca USA
ZERO CONCERN FOR SAFETY. Even with being a demo setup, there was zero concern for safety. Neither trailing hoses, caution work above or caution slip hazard warnings anywhere on site. 2 people walked directly under pole when extended at 70'. With water running thru pole, puddling on ground with snowbanks means must have cold temps which causes freezing water, slip hazard. Poles worked above 75' really aren't very realistic/practical. If only on windows here and there ok but much better ways to get jobs completed at these heights. This pole is rigid because it has thicker walls (extra weight) and 18" overlapped sections which any pole can also do to give them extra rigidity.
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I do 50-90ft wf work daily for 8months of the year. Were running 120psi split between up to 4 poles. Its all about the scrub and rinse. Gotta be thorough. Absolutely gotta keep the tds runnin no higher than 20 for hydrophobic, can push it closer to 50 for hydrophillic. We do 5-10k windows a month from residential to large commerical accounts.
I'm struggling here, spent $5,000.00 on the ultimate, 1st job is coming up and 60 ft of the unknown awaits me... Call me if you can help. Award Window Cleaning /Carlsbad Ca USA...Just have a bunch of newbie questions. I'll trade you a quick 5 star review for 5 min of your expert advice.
Just got mine
My ass was puckered this entire video... lol
This demonstration brings about an entirely new set of questions that I have about the efficacy of WFP at extreme heights. I'm experienced in rope access and I just have a difficult time believing that the finished product at 90' would pass your quality of workmanship standards. Does it?
Never mind 90, standards drop at 40f easily
If you want a good scrub and cleaning use a highworker and work from there with a smaller pole
@@wernervandersteenen946 I'd just drop from the roof and clean it the old fashioned way...by hand
@@ScottWConvid19 rope skipping wow allways wanten to do that but my wife was not in for it and now i'm almost 56 so maybe in my next life 🤣 i'm a window cleaner for 32 years now and Belgium is so far behind Amerika and the Uk have a lot more and better tools . For my wfp work i have the pure 20 by ionic and when i do Windows at 55 feet i see that the pressure on mij bruch is on its limit . Yes the poles from ionic are not that ridgit , i know 👍 just keep it safe there be bkessed and love watching all of your video's
@@wernervandersteenen946 yeah, I'm 50 in two months. I've been cleaning windows since 92. I started out doing commercial high rise and found my niche in residential, for quality. Rope work is safer than climbing a two-story ladder. It's never too late to learn. We're not getting any younger. I actually think rope work might be safer than WFP in some cases.
Finally. This is what I've been wanting to see before I buy this setup. I've never been certain on the correct way to add the sections to the bottom. Thank you.
That’s insane. The cleaning can’t be that detailed, but hey, you’re doing it. Wild stuff.
Just send me over the wall with some ropes and a bucket. You obviously don’t clean that entire building with the WFP but it’s wild to see it that high!
If you are an experienced waterfed user, you would be shocked at how detailed it is!
That would be a terrible finish on the glass at that height and not even worth it.
I don't see the point of going that high with a WFP. Way too many things can go wrong.
@@JorgeChavez-xm2ew there’s no point over 3 stories. Leave it to the absailers
Well it's not like people can walk right up and look at it. Honestly they probably are just doing it to help preserve the life of the glass and to make it a little bit shinier.
My question is, do they do the uppers standing on the roof working down or what?
I’ve had to clean windows up to 7 stories high with a WFP system and they turned out superb. Things could definitely go wrong, but with the right technique and training nothing should
Just rent equipment that can get you higher
Great video! I have to say there's a difference between putting a pole up 90 feet and actually working at 90 feet. You will not be doing it for long and not sustain injuries. I'm 230 pounds and do powerlifting just to be able to face my 6 and 7 story jobs every year. They are a marathon of pain and stress. Plus I'm using top of the line Gardiner poles (Xtreme and Ultimate) which are lighter and stiffer. 90 feet is just not sustainable or realistic.
Also, please don't put your hose on the inside for commercial jobs.
Keep up the good work! Awesome footage ;)
Yes I have to agree. I'm on a job right now with my gardiner ultimate 74 ft fully extended on a few sets of windows and even that height is very slow and exhausting! 90 ft doesn't seem realistic.
Also not being fully telescopic seems more dangerous. I know adding extensions to my nlite pole at height can be a little sketchy. Especially if you have to walk away from a 60 plus ft pole. That's a big no no in my book. To big a risk at that height to not keep somebody holding the pole at all times. Just my two cents but I am curious about the rigidity of the destroyer vs ultimate.
What is the benefit of having hoses outside pole for commercial?
@@truelueck1763 Inside pole hose is a UK and European residential wfp tradition that was misunderstood and propagated by a few silly dealers who brought their product to N America. It was originally and still is used for regular, monthly residential work in the UK/Europe because it's faster for lower work and jobs take only minutes. They also don't drop sections. It eliminates a step of attaching the hose because they use small vans that allow the operator to simply pull the pole out of the back and run up to the job.
For high work though pole hose outside of the pole is better. It's easier to clean the outside of the pole than it is the inside and an internal hose will bring dirt up into it that wears the pole out from the inside.
Also, when dropping down a layer you can lighten the pole by simply pulling off and dropping sections. This is only possible with an externally run hose. Dropping sections allows an operator to work faster and for longer.
Oh god! My shoulder hurts just looking at that height😯!
Back in the day I did a 60ft tucker pole job using an aluminum pole with 12 foot add on extensions (when full assembled we referred to it as "The Heinous Device"... I only had a 5am-7am window once a month to do this crazy overhang entry... and the wind always blew 45 mph out of the north then... I got it done, but it nearly killed me. I would really like to see how that thing handles compared to the heinous device...
So what happens to the 3 floors above?
Just don’t clean them? Or add extensions to 150ft?
Hey my good man how are you I got a question ask xero destroyer working at 90 ft set up water feed pole I see that you guys had it all the way to 90 ft but there was other three more floors up above how did you guys clean those
Did my 90ft modular in 1998 by myself, awesome at that height.
Very nice demonstration guys.
Thank you!
Would you consider that a 2-man job to ensure you have someone spotting you? I have a hard time at just 50 feet
It can be done with one, but a spotter is never a bad idea considering safety.
Thats got to be super heavy. My neck would hurt looking up that long I think trying to do that. Good info.
Wow, that building is right by my house!
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Nice! Would the gooseneck change the rigidity at all?
Good question
A gooseneck would just add weight. We work regularly at 70+ feet with wfp's. An ounce at 80 feet feels like 10 pounds at the ground. A gooseneck is commonly used by wfp users who use a floppy pole that buckles under its own weight and smacks the building as a result. The gooseneck brings the pole a few inches out from the building to avoid smacking. This is not the the solution. A stiffer and lighter pole is. That I believe is the Gardiner Xtreme and Ultimate poles.
@@yuhno09 I've used the Gardiner Xtreme at 80ft, it bends and gives much more than the pole in this video... Just sayin
That is crazy and amazing at the same time !
Great demo and advice.
Thank you guys !
WOW!! I can feel the shoulder burn already muscling a 90ft pole with a 10-15mph wind=Killer Workout!!
I would like to see you do the left or right of the building because the pole will go from left to right at these hights , i go unto 65 feet and if you dont have a outcoming wall to stop your brush it wil go pas the corner and down to the ground
I can't even see 90ft 👀 nice vid mate
Better to have hose on outside of pole easer to change sections
How do you clean the windows that you couldn’t reach?
Tippy toes.... Just kidding! That is where highrise window cleaning would come in!
@@windowcleaner 😂 Quick question…I have a xero pure with 30 ft pole. If I get a 60 or 90 foot pole would it work or would I need to get a pump?
Ordered from u guys from watching steve-o
How do you move it away from the glass way up there?
💪🏼
To keep the pole more stable use a 12 or larger carbon fiber gooseneck it keeps the pole more stable with a 18 inch brush
hi guys, I live in Uzbekistan in Tashkent. How and in what way can I buy such a thing for myself. Thanks in advance

hey! just go here and you can order direct! windowcleaner.com/products/xero-destroyer-water-fed-pole?sca_ref=3020234.dl0aAoVJ1A
That looks extremely terrifying lol.
Weird to be afraid of heights when you are safely on the gound.... 🤔 Just kidding! We know the type of control this takes and it is not for the faint of heart!
That looks pretty rad, fellas... definitely NOT my schtick...lol
How do you rinse, or do you not
Very carefully!
my anxiety levels went tru the roof!
🫣
Impressive...but to work that pole at that height even more impressive. For sure every move has to be calculated so as not to lose control.
How much does the entire 90' pole weigh with brush, hose and add water???
Dude at that height it’s so heavy . I had it like at 50 feet with some new York wind and it felt like it weigh 200 pounds.
How do you rinse from that height? I can't imagine you could pull brush away for rinsing?
Twist the pole and rinse with half the bar
Might be better of with a rinse bar fitted..
we just want to know to how get these contracts who are you contacting what's the hole process cause we all know this job is for sure over 15,000 bucks to do the hole building
hey! i have a few podcasts on just that, but this is the last one! ~Jersey 862-312-2026 th-cam.com/video/O6Q3trT4OeQ/w-d-xo.html
Ten story building? That's insane
Someone needs to make a bigger brush for such tall heights.
Not necessarily. Actually, the larger the brush the less you can do up high. An ounce at 80 feet feel like 10 pounds.
Rent a man lift and mark it up on the invoice? More money and work faster?
Dont bother putting the hose through the pole. Let it hang without push connects, one continuous hose, no connectors means less points of failure. Just hold it with your hand and be careful with it. An area like that would in most cases be sectioned off with cones, tape etc so as long as the hose is controlled it will save a ton of time. You can also strap it on the outside of the pole on the way up.
How do I attach the tubing without using the push connect that is directly attached to the brush? I'm struggling here, spent $5,000.00 on the ultimate, 1st job is coming up and 60 ft of the unknown awaits me... Call me if you can help. Award Window Cleaning /Carlsbad Ca USA
What if it falls sideways and hits a person or car
This video will get a lot more buyers. Thx WCR
It is Time to get a Drone….
who washes the rest of the windows above
Bet your insurance is astronomical.
Please do NOT balance your pole and leave it 😂
Sounds good in theory..lol
You use the hose outside the pole at those heights. Just velcro to to the top 3 sections.
You need a dron to film it
I could see a little bit of wind really ruining your day lol. Water fed has its place in certain circumstances, but this one … unfortunately you better just hop your ass in the chair. Good video though !
Reasonable concern to have. We've seen some of our customers post videos with some really rough weather without much issue though, you'd be surprised!
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Watching this at 90' gives you no room for a wind gust. I'd strongly suggest anything over 60' you'll need someone to assist you, especially with add-ons and at no time have the pole sitting by itself unattended... My setup is 55' on it's own, 60' plus when pushing it up. I have come across unexpected wind gusts from hell and no matter how ridged that pole is the wind still moves it and you'll need to counter that wind... It's much harder than you guys make it look... Everyone should practice at a comfortable level before taking on these kind of jobs... Good luck and keep an eye on the wind before you start.
yeah over like 60' have someone on the roof with paracord to make sure you dont lose control! ~Jersey 862-312-2026
We always urge our customers to err on the side of caution and always observe safety measures. You bring up great points, and the wind is definitely a factor for most situations!
This seems counterproductive in the sense that it would be more efficient to just hang with a roof rigging. A pole fed system over 60 feet is completely unnecessary in my opinion.
Keep in mind, not every building has proper anchor points to safely hang from the roof. Then theres people who'd prefer to stay on the ground and clean windows with a setup like this, which is very efficient.
@@windowcleaner keep in mind that at that height the windows are not being cleaned well.
You missed a bit 🤣
Why can’t you get 100 feet? You’re just 10 feet under the triple digits
Come on , just have the hose outside , ju make sure it’s wrapped around thr pole ,
Having your hand holding 50ft while your other hand is trying feed rest of thr hose so can put on the other pole 🤷♂️
I agree
Yes you can definitely do that, we just already had it inside but outside would work great as well
Every time I see this video I am dumbfounded by the extra useless steps of using internal pole hose. It's so much unnecessary work 🤔
It's user preference!
How do I attach the tubing without using the push connect that is directly attached to the brush? I'm struggling here, spent $5,000.00 on the ultimate, 1st job is coming up and 70 ft of the unknown awaits me... Call me if you can help. Award Window Cleaning /Carlsbad Ca USA
@@Damster587how did it go? I got a 70 ft job coming up kinda nervous.
Not good idea 🤔
Maybe a man lift ?
You don't need one all the time when you use a XERO Destroyer. We try to keep you safely on the ground.😉
Learn rope access…
I don't like heights though..😱
ZERO CONCERN FOR SAFETY. Even with being a demo setup, there was zero concern for safety. Neither trailing hoses, caution work above or caution slip hazard warnings anywhere on site. 2 people walked directly under pole when extended at 70'. With water running thru pole, puddling on ground with snowbanks means must have cold temps which causes freezing water, slip hazard.
Poles worked above 75' really aren't very realistic/practical. If only on windows here and there ok but much better ways to get jobs completed at these heights. This pole is rigid because it has thicker walls (extra weight) and 18" overlapped sections which any pole can also do to give them extra rigidity.
Ok osha go crawl in your bubble wrap hole
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What's up Mario!
I’m not buying it. Can’t be effective. Sorry.
Don't be sorry! We have the proof in practical use and customer reviews on it's effectiveness.