Got emotional listening to Ed’s story about leaving the church. Identifying as a Korean, Christian, and freelance artist it all hits too close to home. Thanks for being so honest and vulnerable in this podcast Ed. I hope you can find a community that will give you that support that you want and deserve.
Yo. I'm a KA Pastor and this was so refreshing to my soul. Been trying to change the church from within and its been difficult. People felt weird when they hear me speak about my mental illness and flaws. But things are changing. Thanks and keep it up!
This is like me sitting in a cafe, where I should probably be studying but two people talk about some really interesting topics and I can't help but listen to when I take a break.
As an Iraqi person, this was interesting to watch :). About what u said on hospitality, there’s a city called Al-Diwaniyah and it actually means hospitality. It’s generally normal to treat guests this way and be super respectful (and go overboard with offering food😂)
Yep. They squeeze the love out of you. Things that should be dealt with biblically are dealt with culturally. in my church men could not have beards because they were a symbol of pride but mustaches were ok. I couldn’t understand it. Cause Mexicans love their mustaches then they were permissible. Other things like certain haircuts and certain fashion was frowned upon because it was seen as thuggish in the Mexican community. Men couldn’t shave their heads because gang members did it. Pastors would tell kids off if they had super buzzed heads. I dunno. So many stories.
Hey David, I've been a fan for a while and I consider myself as a devout follower of Christ. I'm also Korean American and grew up in a Korean American church. I really appreciated this podcast because it's so real. I really appreciated 2 things: 1. I liked when you guys talked about the manipulation in churches especially from leadership. That's so real even in American churches which I attend one now. 2. This Korean American mindset that we're just trash and we have to earn God's love. As I've been growing in my walk with God, I'm learning (which is really hard actually) that He just loves me for me. I'm not all perfect, but I hope that all churches will be better in these areas and hold themselves accountable. Thank you for these podcasts David!
as a korean dude growing up with a pastor dad, this was really interesting! Didnt know so many others shared the same experiences. Awesome podcast guys, learned a lot.
I'm hmong, and everytime I here y'all talk about your church, it sounds alot like my church. There's so many similarities between, I'm assuming, all Asian American churches
Yeh no one really practices what they preach, theres always too much pride and drama. Then that creates more hate and people just dont get along well. Thats why i drifted away from hmg church, its just too hard to deal with OGs nowadays. Youth group was the only cool and chill thing we had.
I can appreciate how real and how raw this conversation is but it breaks my heart to see another Christian be done so dirty by people who are supposed to be teaching God’s words
The earliest I've ever been. You're awesome David, you're a very admirable person and hearing your stories have made me try to become the most authentic and happy version of myself.
I'm Sudanese but I was born and raised in Iraq. I lived there for 16 years, and let me tell you, I have never heard when you visit someone you can't use their bathroom. This is my first time hearing this 😂😂
I appreciate the honesty and the real talk. I can relate to this in some ways from growing up in the Korean church culture. I do believe that real Christianity is all about the heart, but a lot of times Christians suck at showing that. And tbh, I also still struggle with my faith because of this.
I went to a Filipino church for a while and I grew up in a Nigerian church, so many similar scenarios😂. I find it hard to be part of church communities sometimes because somehow culture trumps everything. I appreciate you guys and this podcast! Thanks for sharing
The more I'm hearing this, the more eerie the similarities are among Asian churches. Absolutely hated my church cause of all the "innocent" charismatic pieces of sh*ts.
Bruhh Ed’s story is crazy! I relate to that so hard! People whether in church or not should be paid for their work! Some leaders don’t understand that to do something for free it takes our resources that WE pay for from our own dime. Then they come and say “God will repay you” as a way of using us. It’s not right. I have also walked away from the church and I’m happy to still believe in God but not the way I was taught.
Wow Me and my brother are pastor’s kid and we can relate to most of the things that you gone through. I’m also Korean Anyways you the best Korean comedian, influencer, and inspiration
Joel Osteen is so concentrated on money so much. I watched him for a bit until I noticed that he talks about money all the time. I don't understand how he can see people in the U.S. in the world and he lives in a mansion and take private planes etc and say he is doing God's work.
Ed man, it's heart breaking to hear your story and why you've decided to leave the church. Just know that we are all sinners and make mistakes, including true Christians. I would just say Christ is here just waiting with open arms and obviously you know that. I just hope that you find a fruitful church body in the future that will truly support you and not be a stumbling block for you. As you said earlier in the video, true belief and salvation can never be lost. Love you brother! And love you too David! Big fan of your content here and with JK.
Woww! I grew up in a Haitian church and it's crazy that a lot of your experiences are very similar to the church in my culture. I completely feel where you are coming from in my own spiritual journey. Thank you for this episode! :-)
The way this ep. helped me mentally summarize everything as an ex “church” person. I still believe in my faith and spirituality but I can now say I have a well balance point of view w/ “the world” and “Christianity”. Growing up in a Hispanic Christian church.. It’s so surprising how similar Korean and Hispanic Christian church’s work (hope that made sense lol).. in my unpopular opinion lol.
As someone who's had many identical experiences growing up in korean Churches in LA county and the IE... I felt the frustration coming off of Ed and David to my CORE. Although I've finally found a piece of ground to stand on to stay firm in my own faith rather than basing it off of the people who attend/lead the church, I TRULY do understand the sentiment of leaving because of the people at korean presbyterian Churches. I currently am a worker in the church, but I'm not afraid to declare that the korean culture is literally the opposite of how we are taught to act and treat each other in scripture... but unfortunately, korean culture trumps scripture in a lot the settings and situations that I've personally witnessed and been on the receiving end of. Ed if you see this, I hope and pray you can forgive these fools and find your way back to your faith. I, too, shake uncontrollably when trying to share my past experiences in korean Churches. Although these stories and experiences act as an anchor in our hearts for many future experiences, it also is refreshing tool for other listeners who may also be struggling, and it may even be a wake-up call for some. Thanks for sharing, fellas. Leaving here mad as hell from listening to these stories LOL, but also leaving blessed.
PS. These experiences also include all that pedo and vulnerable girl predatory bs. I'm sad that this seems to be a common thing. I really shouldn't be saying this as a current worker in the church... but I really miss the days when perverts like that would get the (poop) kicked out of them by the legit older brothers who looked out for the younger kids.
I can totally relate. Half-Korean growing up in Korean church and had my faith tested every step of the way. Every moment of evil is a chance for you to choose to grow in your own personal faith, it is not about the community, it's about loving past the commune... the church is a hidden body catholic (universal). God knows those who are His and He will judge. Have faith bro.
this was a great discussion about religion and relationships within the church and secular worlds. i’m a KA who grew up in Queens, NY and have a very similar background. i’m now at a multicultural church because i couldn’t stand all the politics and drama. i enjoyed the podcast and you have gained a new subscriber. keep up the good work David!!
yo tbh I rarely watch podcasts or rather listen to them, but I'm happy I did now, so thank you Ed for sharing your experiences about visiting Iraq, kudos to David too!
David talking about how American church culture is totally different than Korean church culture is totally relatable. My parents finally left a Korean church theyve been apart of for 10+ years. My mother was shocked how different American churches are. Ofc, she and my dad is visiting other American churches until finding another home church. My brother and i left Korean churches around high school because of how toxic it was.
I just came from watching the podcast where you and Ed talk about mulan, and since y’all wanna record something I think y’all should record David’s beauty and the beast proposal to Mariel. I would love to see that, but I do understand that’s a lot of money.
It's interesting to hear how these church behaviours transcend globally 😂 I'm thankful that my dad raised his children by the faith, and not the religion. It has kept me open-minded and always inquisitive about religious teachings. I have learnt much and renewed my faith. Thanks for sharing your stories ❤️
Wow, what a podcast Dacid and Ed! I had to listen to this over 3 days because I had to reflect so much about life. As I said earlier in another video's comment section, I would to love to come talk to David and Joe and give them a big hug!
I LOVE this podcast! I listen to it before I go to sleep. Sometimes I fall asleep listening to it and get woken up by David screaming about Lemonade in Jail.
Ed, I've been listening to your story, i am so sorry for the hurts bro! I am a follower of Jesus and I grieve for the stuff that the church has done to you! Good for you for listening to God in your adventures! David, thanks for this interview, keep up the good work!
I went to a Korean church, but we went for Korean lessons, not the service. I remember they had this goat for some reason. And one of the ahjussis would chew gum and give it to his kid 🤢....
Thank you so much for sharing this Ed. I really appreciate it. I have some issues with my youth group, bc they have no idea what to do with my trauma and anxiety. They've stopped talking to me, and it really made me feel like an outcast and something ppl "can't fix". Yeah no shit you can't, but I'm trying to be vulnerable with you, and that's all I'm asking for. I'm not asking for prayers, but acknowledge my fucking presence, bc im holding onto dear life bc I'm suicidal. Thank you so much for the rawness you guys always bring. I'm really shocked bc I live in Denmark and I know "open the eyes of my heart lord", and I've been following David since 2011, and had no idea that we knew the same songs. Such a cool moment! :D
As an African born in Germany with a father who’s a Pastor whiles I’m no longer religious. I can relate to these stories of yall so much it! I was listening to the podcast whiles on the bus & was very grateful for the masks cuz it was so difficult holding in my laugh in 😂 and loved how deep & real it got
I'm so happy to hear about Ninive and Babylonia because it's almost never talked about! Really interesting information from Ed. Thanks for this podcast. PS: I am aramean :)
I'm half Vietnamese-Chinese, half White. Mom's Viet-Chinese and is Buddhist, but when she came to the US at 8, she went to a Vietnamese Catholic church. She went there until she was in high school and she hated it so much cause it was so damn caddy. It's so true that you are Vietnamese first, Catholic second or Korean first, Christian second. The same shit was going on at this Catholic church. Gossiping, backstabbing cousins, gangbangers hitting on girls, old Asian parents thinking their kids are angels when the kids are conniving. She only went because her cousins went and when she got a car, she left. I got so many stories about church going families. Can relate David. Love the content!
i believe the film you're referring to is called "the wailing". i had no idea that koreans had a shamanism belief system until i saw that movie (scared the shit out of me in some parts).
Thank you so much for making this podcast. I struggled something similar growing up, and this podcast topic(s) definitely gave me more insight. Thank you thank you thank you so much for sharing 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
So so so relatable. That said, As an outsider I purposefully chose to attend a Korean Church. It's interesting because in many regards, I took David's exact opposite path. Growing up, my (core and extended) family was very dysfunctional. So the presentation of the good news of the Kingdom (in Jesus' parables and in the OT) as a big feast, a banquet with loads and loads of food to be enjoyed with lots of people where Death is just a distant and old nightmare, it just resonated with me. At its best, Korean churches try to embody that. The above imagery re-interpreted through Korean lenses, Imagine a place where God is serving you and your loved ones the communal 식사: the banchan, a Kimchi Jjigae, a Galbi BBQ, a Jeon, and/or whatever your favorite Korean dish is, where you can enjoy a shot of soju, where there's laughter and joy (and perhaps some innocuous disses and most likely lots and lots of Korean "games"), where sadness/death and evil are no more... at its best, that's what Korean churches after-service meals look like... minus the actual physical presence of God, the defeat of Death and soju. LOL.
I took a class on immigration in college and one of the units talked about how something crazy like 70% of Korean Americans were evangelical Christians, not including the other types of Christians. And it was interesting how this contrasted to South Korea, where Christians are influential but they make up a small part of the population
I grew up in a Korean Catholic church with Irish youth priests. Enjoying the Korean Presbyterian perspective. Also in my young adult life, I ventured out and attended other Christian church and my dad almost disowned me. For context i lived on my own and it still was not okay to hop ship. We are divided for far in, divided at birth.
This video popped up after one of your newer eps and I just finished Midnight Mass on Netflix. I want to hear what you guys have to say about that show. It’s INTERESTINGGG Also, Genius Brain is my go to YT channel to to put on when I need to get off my ass and to get shit done on the daily. I appreciate you guys!
As a Korean who went to Korean church since middle school I always wondered why nobody would talk or greet me like people from my school. Turns out they already had their own community and if you don't fit the criteria of good looking or your parents being in one of their "hierarchy" they'll straigh up ignore you and treat you like air. Had whole lot of postive experince when I changed my church since college.
Koreans have deep roots in the church. Most of the hospitals and social service centers in Korea were started by Christians. Christians also supported the independence movement when we were colonized by the Japanese, which is why many activists like Yoo Gwan Soon and Ahn Joong Geun were Christians. In the U.S., we organized in the church since the very beginning. Dosan Ahn Chang Ho (the name you see in the freeway interchange in LA) founded one of the first Korean churches in America.
The bathroom habit being off limits to guests is smart. I imagine its to prevent potential theft and prevent disease spread from contact of their piss or shit.
Ed if you’re reading this, I hope you find healing and reconciliation for your hurt.
Thank you
hearing Ed1 trying to keep his emotions together shows how much this man has gone through, and that deserves props
Got emotional listening to Ed’s story about leaving the church. Identifying as a Korean, Christian, and freelance artist it all hits too close to home. Thanks for being so honest and vulnerable in this podcast Ed. I hope you can find a community that will give you that support that you want and deserve.
Yo. I'm a KA Pastor and this was so refreshing to my soul. Been trying to change the church from within and its been difficult. People felt weird when they hear me speak about my mental illness and flaws. But things are changing. Thanks and keep it up!
I’m neither Korean nor Christian and this was such an insightful watch ☺️
“I hope you can edit this better”
*absolutely no editing*
This is like me sitting in a cafe, where I should probably be studying but two people talk about some really interesting topics and I can't help but listen to when I take a break.
Ed park is Bobby Lee lite
This comments need more likes
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This is high praise.
Church to me just feels like Christianity’s Next Top Model. Just a pointless competition that goes away from what the religion is really about.
As an Iraqi person, this was interesting to watch :). About what u said on hospitality, there’s a city called Al-Diwaniyah and it actually means hospitality. It’s generally normal to treat guests this way and be super respectful (and go overboard with offering food😂)
how about the holding the pee part?
Ed is the Classic example of the wheat planted and the weeds choked out, such a terrible situation that happens in Hispanic Churches as well.
Yep. They squeeze the love out of you. Things that should be dealt with biblically are dealt with culturally. in my church men could not have beards because they were a symbol of pride but mustaches were ok. I couldn’t understand it. Cause Mexicans love their mustaches then they were permissible. Other things like certain haircuts and certain fashion was frowned upon because it was seen as thuggish in the Mexican community. Men couldn’t shave their heads because gang members did it. Pastors would tell kids off if they had super buzzed heads. I dunno. So many stories.
Didn't even know the reason ed was called ed 2. You need to bring both on for an ed-ception podcast
Hey David, I've been a fan for a while and I consider myself as a devout follower of Christ. I'm also Korean American and grew up in a Korean American church. I really appreciated this podcast because it's so real. I really appreciated 2 things: 1. I liked when you guys talked about the manipulation in churches especially from leadership. That's so real even in American churches which I attend one now. 2. This Korean American mindset that we're just trash and we have to earn God's love. As I've been growing in my walk with God, I'm learning (which is really hard actually) that He just loves me for me. I'm not all perfect, but I hope that all churches will be better in these areas and hold themselves accountable. Thank you for these podcasts David!
as a korean dude growing up with a pastor dad, this was really interesting! Didnt know so many others shared the same experiences. Awesome podcast guys, learned a lot.
Really interesting to hear about the history of korean church and about behind the scenes
Being a Polynesian who is Christian, we have our own issues within the church. But tbh it all starts with the old ladies that gossip 🤣🤣🤣
I'm hmong, and everytime I here y'all talk about your church, it sounds alot like my church. There's so many similarities between, I'm assuming, all Asian American churches
Yeh no one really practices what they preach, theres always too much pride and drama. Then that creates more hate and people just dont get along well. Thats why i drifted away from hmg church, its just too hard to deal with OGs nowadays. Youth group was the only cool and chill thing we had.
I can appreciate how real and how raw this conversation is but it breaks my heart to see another Christian be done so dirty by people who are supposed to be teaching God’s words
Nice. 2 hours. I appreciate it David!
The earliest I've ever been. You're awesome David, you're a very admirable person and hearing your stories have made me try to become the most authentic and happy version of myself.
I'm Sudanese but I was born and raised in Iraq. I lived there for 16 years, and let me tell you, I have never heard when you visit someone you can't use their bathroom. This is my first time hearing this 😂😂
I appreciate the honesty and the real talk.
I can relate to this in some ways from growing up in the Korean church culture.
I do believe that real Christianity is all about the heart, but a lot of times Christians suck at showing that.
And tbh, I also still struggle with my faith because of this.
yesss david delivering those church stories we asked for last time
I went to a Filipino church for a while and I grew up in a Nigerian church, so many similar scenarios😂. I find it hard to be part of church communities sometimes because somehow culture trumps everything. I appreciate you guys and this podcast! Thanks for sharing
The more I'm hearing this, the more eerie the similarities are among Asian churches. Absolutely hated my church cause of all the "innocent" charismatic pieces of sh*ts.
Not religious but the most hypocritical people i knew growing up were the hardcore christians in school
@@ashina5924 This is true. Some never grow up from that behavior and continue well into their 60s, 70s making life difficult for everyone else.
Bruhh Ed’s story is crazy!
I relate to that so hard!
People whether in church or not should be paid for their work! Some leaders don’t understand that to do something for free it takes our resources that WE pay for from our own dime. Then they come and say “God will repay you” as a way of using us. It’s not right.
I have also walked away from the church and I’m happy to still believe in God but not the way I was taught.
Lool u made the guy kiss her foot but in his mind he's like jokes on u I have a foot fetish 😂😅
Didn't even know the reason ed was called ed 2. You need to bring both on for an ed-ception podcast
Wow Me and my brother are pastor’s kid and we can relate to most of the things that you gone through. I’m also Korean Anyways you the best Korean comedian, influencer, and inspiration
Joel Osteen is so concentrated on money so much. I watched him for a bit until I noticed that he talks about money all the time. I don't understand how he can see people in the U.S. in the world and he lives in a mansion and take private planes etc and say he is doing God's work.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's indian food and a china town up on Mars. We Asians everywhere.
Ed has quite some interesting stories 😄
YESSS! 감사 for talking about these topics
진짜 잘 듣고 있어요~
Ed man, it's heart breaking to hear your story and why you've decided to leave the church. Just know that we are all sinners and make mistakes, including true Christians. I would just say Christ is here just waiting with open arms and obviously you know that. I just hope that you find a fruitful church body in the future that will truly support you and not be a stumbling block for you. As you said earlier in the video, true belief and salvation can never be lost. Love you brother! And love you too David! Big fan of your content here and with JK.
Stranger love is so powerful
Do you know christ ? *starts pop and locking* 😂
Woww! I grew up in a Haitian church and it's crazy that a lot of your experiences are very similar to the church in my culture. I completely feel where you are coming from in my own spiritual journey. Thank you for this episode! :-)
The way this ep. helped me mentally summarize everything as an ex “church” person. I still believe in my faith and spirituality but I can now say I have a well balance point of view w/ “the world” and “Christianity”. Growing up in a Hispanic Christian church.. It’s so surprising how similar Korean and Hispanic Christian church’s work (hope that made sense lol).. in my unpopular opinion lol.
As someone who's had many identical experiences growing up in korean Churches in LA county and the IE... I felt the frustration coming off of Ed and David to my CORE. Although I've finally found a piece of ground to stand on to stay firm in my own faith rather than basing it off of the people who attend/lead the church, I TRULY do understand the sentiment of leaving because of the people at korean presbyterian Churches. I currently am a worker in the church, but I'm not afraid to declare that the korean culture is literally the opposite of how we are taught to act and treat each other in scripture... but unfortunately, korean culture trumps scripture in a lot the settings and situations that I've personally witnessed and been on the receiving end of. Ed if you see this, I hope and pray you can forgive these fools and find your way back to your faith. I, too, shake uncontrollably when trying to share my past experiences in korean Churches. Although these stories and experiences act as an anchor in our hearts for many future experiences, it also is refreshing tool for other listeners who may also be struggling, and it may even be a wake-up call for some. Thanks for sharing, fellas. Leaving here mad as hell from listening to these stories LOL, but also leaving blessed.
PS. These experiences also include all that pedo and vulnerable girl predatory bs. I'm sad that this seems to be a common thing. I really shouldn't be saying this as a current worker in the church... but I really miss the days when perverts like that would get the (poop) kicked out of them by the legit older brothers who looked out for the younger kids.
I can totally relate. Half-Korean growing up in Korean church and had my faith tested every step of the way. Every moment of evil is a chance for you to choose to grow in your own personal faith, it is not about the community, it's about loving past the commune... the church is a hidden body catholic (universal). God knows those who are His and He will judge. Have faith bro.
Damn, not even Korean but these church stories are sooo similar
In my family it's " If your kid acts like my kid they're gonna get hit like my kid " and all my sisters friends knew it lol
this was a great discussion about religion and relationships within the church and secular worlds. i’m a KA who grew up in Queens, NY and have a very similar background. i’m now at a multicultural church because i couldn’t stand all the politics and drama. i enjoyed the podcast and you have gained a new subscriber. keep up the good work David!!
yo tbh I rarely watch podcasts or rather listen to them, but I'm happy I did now, so thank you Ed for sharing your experiences about visiting Iraq, kudos to David too!
This was a beautiful episode.
david if you see this, you were the coolest youth group pastor
No fucking way
David talking about how American church culture is totally different than Korean church culture is totally relatable. My parents finally left a Korean church theyve been apart of for 10+ years. My mother was shocked how different American churches are. Ofc, she and my dad is visiting other American churches until finding another home church. My brother and i left Korean churches around high school because of how toxic it was.
I believe the movie David mentioned in the beginning is called "The Wailing" I think...
I just came from watching the podcast where you and Ed talk about mulan, and since y’all wanna record something I think y’all should record David’s beauty and the beast proposal to Mariel. I would love to see that, but I do understand that’s a lot of money.
It's interesting to hear how these church behaviours transcend globally 😂 I'm thankful that my dad raised his children by the faith, and not the religion. It has kept me open-minded and always inquisitive about religious teachings. I have learnt much and renewed my faith. Thanks for sharing your stories ❤️
Dunno if you'll ever see this David but thank you for doing these podcasts, lots of awesome conversations. Keep up the amazing content!
Wow, what a podcast Dacid and Ed!
I had to listen to this over 3 days because I had to reflect so much about life. As I said earlier in another video's comment section, I would to love to come talk to David and Joe and give them a big hug!
I LOVE this podcast! I listen to it before I go to sleep. Sometimes I fall asleep listening to it and get woken up by David screaming about Lemonade in Jail.
Ed, I've been listening to your story, i am so sorry for the hurts bro! I am a follower of Jesus and I grieve for the stuff that the church has done to you! Good for you for listening to God in your adventures! David, thanks for this interview, keep up the good work!
david this was the best episode EVER!!!!! I NEEDED THIS
I went to a Korean church, but we went for Korean lessons, not the service. I remember they had this goat for some reason. And one of the ahjussis would chew gum and give it to his kid 🤢....
Such a great episode, the amount of crazy stories Ed has is amazing!
Thank you so much for sharing this Ed. I really appreciate it. I have some issues with my youth group, bc they have no idea what to do with my trauma and anxiety. They've stopped talking to me, and it really made me feel like an outcast and something ppl "can't fix". Yeah no shit you can't, but I'm trying to be vulnerable with you, and that's all I'm asking for. I'm not asking for prayers, but acknowledge my fucking presence, bc im holding onto dear life bc I'm suicidal.
Thank you so much for the rawness you guys always bring. I'm really shocked bc I live in Denmark and I know "open the eyes of my heart lord", and I've been following David since 2011, and had no idea that we knew the same songs. Such a cool moment! :D
As an African born in Germany with a father who’s a Pastor whiles I’m no longer religious. I can relate to these stories of yall so much it!
I was listening to the podcast whiles on the bus & was very grateful for the masks cuz it was so difficult holding in my laugh in 😂 and loved how deep & real it got
I'm so happy to hear about Ninive and Babylonia because it's almost never talked about! Really interesting information from Ed. Thanks for this podcast.
PS: I am aramean :)
dude i felt like i was in this convo..thoroughly enjoyed this podcast..thanks for that guys!
Ed don’t stop believing, just because those leaders did you dirty. You continue believing.
I'm half Vietnamese-Chinese, half White. Mom's Viet-Chinese and is Buddhist, but when she came to the US at 8, she went to a Vietnamese Catholic church. She went there until she was in high school and she hated it so much cause it was so damn caddy. It's so true that you are Vietnamese first, Catholic second or Korean first, Christian second. The same shit was going on at this Catholic church. Gossiping, backstabbing cousins, gangbangers hitting on girls, old Asian parents thinking their kids are angels when the kids are conniving. She only went because her cousins went and when she got a car, she left. I got so many stories about church going families. Can relate David. Love the content!
i believe the film you're referring to is called "the wailing". i had no idea that koreans had a shamanism belief system until i saw that movie (scared the shit out of me in some parts).
And people wonder why I don’t go to church anymore or why I never liked it.
Wow 👏 i love the bravery to go to a country that you are raised to believe is "savage". Ed you are the man
Love listening to you and Ed’s podcast! This podcast was so relatable and thank you for sharing your stories and experiences 👍🏻
Thank you so much for making this podcast. I struggled something similar growing up, and this podcast topic(s) definitely gave me more insight. Thank you thank you thank you so much for sharing 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
So so so relatable.
That said, As an outsider I purposefully chose to attend a Korean Church. It's interesting because in many regards, I took David's exact opposite path.
Growing up, my (core and extended) family was very dysfunctional. So the presentation of the good news of the Kingdom (in Jesus' parables and in the OT) as a big feast, a banquet with loads and loads of food to be enjoyed with lots of people where Death is just a distant and old nightmare, it just resonated with me.
At its best, Korean churches try to embody that. The above imagery re-interpreted through Korean lenses, Imagine a place where God is serving you and your loved ones the communal 식사: the banchan, a Kimchi Jjigae, a Galbi BBQ, a Jeon, and/or whatever your favorite Korean dish is, where you can enjoy a shot of soju, where there's laughter and joy (and perhaps some innocuous disses and most likely lots and lots of Korean "games"), where sadness/death and evil are no more... at its best, that's what Korean churches after-service meals look like... minus the actual physical presence of God, the defeat of Death and soju. LOL.
I always heard the weirdest shit from my friends at Asian churches and as a Buddhist that shit lowkey made me want to convert
¡Peace, love and more life to everyone out there, stay safe! 👊🏿🙏🏿❤️
This was a good video. Great discussion!
Probably my most favourite podcast EP that I've listened too. More stuff like this please!
Fascinating discussion. That Iraq story was a trip. Thanks David and Ed.
I am Kurdiash and I loved this. Lot of love from Denmark David!
I took a class on immigration in college and one of the units talked about how something crazy like 70% of Korean Americans were evangelical Christians, not including the other types of Christians. And it was interesting how this contrasted to South Korea, where Christians are influential but they make up a small part of the population
Chinese bar in the middle of Iraq. That’s some spy shit.
I love & related to you both..crazy. Glad you’re both “in my life” in some way. Thank you both for being who you are & doing the things you do.💘💘
Damn Ed’s stories are crazy but also makes me cry 🥺
David, bring Ed out more pls, the convos too good with you two
Kurdish fan right here bro following you from OG times
I grew up in a Korean Catholic church with Irish youth priests. Enjoying the Korean Presbyterian perspective. Also in my young adult life, I ventured out and attended other Christian church and my dad almost disowned me. For context i lived on my own and it still was not okay to hop ship. We are divided for far in, divided at birth.
Should call Ed 2, ED-209.
I thoroughly enjoyed this, hope to see Ed more on your podcast.
this sound, volume is kinda exquisite .. podcast on point, chill david don't go hard on us
Ed, thank you for sharing. You've helped countless people.
Loved this episode. Please do a part 2!!!
i usually only listen to genius brain on apple podcasts so i had no idea ed and edrick were two different people elemayo
Guys are complaining about Asian churches have you seen those African churches tho 🤦🏻♂️😂😂😂💀💀 that stuff there is pure madness
Bruh, idk your heritage but Nigerian church be crazy 💀
looool Ghanaian churches on a different level 😭
African church is chaos on another level
@ Ed God Bless you bro. Hearing your story inspires me.
Ed Keeps it real man, respect
I absolutely loved this episode! I'd love if you did another one or something similar!
This video popped up after one of your newer eps and I just finished Midnight Mass on Netflix. I want to hear what you guys have to say about that show. It’s INTERESTINGGG
Also, Genius Brain is my go to YT channel to to put on when I need to get off my ass and to get shit done on the daily. I appreciate you guys!
As a Korean who went to Korean church since middle school I always wondered why nobody would talk or greet me like people from my school. Turns out they already had their own community and if you don't fit the criteria of good looking or your parents being in one of their "hierarchy" they'll straigh up ignore you and treat you like air. Had whole lot of postive experince when I changed my church since college.
Oh I’m glad it’s not just my church that had fights
We need a part 2 of this !
Koreans have deep roots in the church. Most of the hospitals and social service centers in Korea were started by Christians. Christians also supported the independence movement when we were colonized by the Japanese, which is why many activists like Yoo Gwan Soon and Ahn Joong Geun were Christians. In the U.S., we organized in the church since the very beginning. Dosan Ahn Chang Ho (the name you see in the freeway interchange in LA) founded one of the first Korean churches in America.
Have you seen P.K's standup on church/prayer? Kind of old but super hilarious.
When I left my Korean church nobody ever texted me and checked up on me 😂 I’m now a recently converted Muslim
The bathroom habit being off limits to guests is smart. I imagine its to prevent potential theft and prevent disease spread from contact of their piss or shit.
Crazy to hear Ed is from Tac Town and is Korean cuz I am from Tacoma and Korean. Love hearing from both of you guys man