The MANY Interpretations of Baryonyx!

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  • @dragonzilla6482
    @dragonzilla6482 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    Fun fact : Baryonyx was originally going to appear in Walking with Dinosaurs : Episode Four : Giant of the Skies but got replaced with Utahraptor.

    • @dedmed8139
      @dedmed8139 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Should've been spinosaurus so that it could use it's sail to fly

    • @thephenom724
      @thephenom724 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Really? That would have been so cool. I wonder why they didn't put it in?

    • @ivanlol7153
      @ivanlol7153 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@thephenom724 yeah, would've fit more in europe than utahraptor, the famously european dinosaur

    • @MesozoicLad
      @MesozoicLad 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      aww, screw them creators.

    • @joshuaW5621
      @joshuaW5621 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Why was it replaced with Utahraptor?

  • @wildworld6264
    @wildworld6264 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    So happy Baryonyx got covered. I also used to think Rudy was a Spinosaurus. I'm glad to hear I wasn't the only one.

    • @GojiraTheGoatYT
      @GojiraTheGoatYT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hi I watch your videos!

    • @prehistoricchannel128
      @prehistoricchannel128  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It certainly did make sense at the time haha.

    • @wildworld6264
      @wildworld6264 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@GojiraTheGoatYT oh cool. Thank you 😊.

    • @godzilla44556
      @godzilla44556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@prehistoricchannel128 lol glooy

  • @Hank39
    @Hank39 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I really wish universal stayed with the Jurassic world design, even if we push accuracy aside it just looks way cooler and unique than the fallen kingdom baryonyx

  • @owenbyrne9850
    @owenbyrne9850 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I get that some people hate the jurassic world baryonyx design and everyone has their own opinion. Nice to see Grim, Chaos and Limbo mentioned. Their story in camp cretaceous is heartwarming and heartbreaking

  • @Jestalnaker94000
    @Jestalnaker94000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Fun Fact: Baryonyx was meant to be the main antagonist for Jurassic Park 3 and there's even a JP3 poster for it, but they switched to Spinosaurus, because they thought Baryonyx wasn't intimidating enough. 😅

    • @TheGhost-rp3ko
      @TheGhost-rp3ko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I thought the reason was it because it wasn't tall enough

    • @sparrowdrone
      @sparrowdrone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In other words, it would have been Baryonyx but for the narrative desire to have something defeat tyrannosaurus

    • @Bobo44216
      @Bobo44216 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No it because of jack horner i think. 😐

    • @Jestalnaker94000
      @Jestalnaker94000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Bobo44216 Partially, he was really pushing his idea of T-Rex being a scavenger at that time (which messed up his reputation) and I guess he wanted an animal to beat T-Rex, so he suggested Spinosaurus.

    • @rafiealtaxprimez8912
      @rafiealtaxprimez8912 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm pretty sure the directors for jurassic park 3 said the baryonx was to small to be the antagonist the movie

  • @nono9543
    @nono9543 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    when i was a kid i always confused this guy with suchomimus

    • @jeffhude9698
      @jeffhude9698 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same.

    • @prehistoricchannel128
      @prehistoricchannel128  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Honestly, that’s pretty fair.

    • @godzilla44556
      @godzilla44556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@prehistoricchannel128 yea

    • @Anonymous-lv4di
      @Anonymous-lv4di 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a reson paleontoligists have thought in the past that Sucho was the adult of Bary, as the only Bary we have is a subadult with Sucho being slithly larger and having that weird hump-thing

  • @matthewatkin5331
    @matthewatkin5331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There's a video out there which replaces the Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Baryonyx with a scientifically accurate model and shows the two versions side-by-side. It's pretty awesome.
    Frankly, I hated what they did with the animal in that movie (no animal will be hunting with lava surrounding it, and definitely the lava that landed on it should have killed it instantly) but I was happy to see one of my favourite dinosaurs added to the series, even if they didn't name it. It was also cool how it's roar was similar to the Spino of JP3, hinting at their relation.

  • @xXzhipXx
    @xXzhipXx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    8:09 this is kinda funny because i always see getting flack after saying the opposite lol

  • @Stofferex
    @Stofferex 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    In the Lost World Jurassic Park PS1 game, Baryonyx is the primary threat in the first human level. It's depicted in a grey coloring and it makes gurgling/clicking sounds. It's also depicted as cave dwellers that lives in packs and hunts for fish in the dark cave's waters. They're also very territorial.

    • @wojo44frompl
      @wojo44frompl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I remember correctly model for Baryonyx is reused one for Suchimimus from Jurassic Park: Warpath fighting game.

    • @filthandfury
      @filthandfury 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Came here for this honestly, even though it is far from the most accurate design it's still by-and-far my favorite media version of Baryonyx.

  • @TheWarriorWithDucks
    @TheWarriorWithDucks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Baryonyx is such a cool creature.

  • @kickerwhitelion7626
    @kickerwhitelion7626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Baryonyx has been confirmed to be coming into Prehistoric Kingdom by the devs on their official discord.

  • @josephrodriguez3548
    @josephrodriguez3548 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man you know what would be great is like a video of you explaining and teaching us about a certain dinosaur like a class

  • @thatnickwalker
    @thatnickwalker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    baryonyx is my second favorite dinosaur after sinosauropteryx, when i read a dino book as a kid and the dinosaur had the same last name as me (cuz the guy who discovered it did too lol) i was hooked on him and his silly huge hands

  • @restionSerpentine
    @restionSerpentine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Baryonyx is one of my top 3 dinosaurs, ever since I got it as a toy in 1994 From Jurassic Park Series II Electronic Baryonyx, and the hatchling baryonyx that came with the human evil raider Skinner

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Baryonyx is a cool dinosaur and am so appreciate you did it, as alot of your videos are very good and I can't wait for the next one ❤

  • @MrKaiju-sr8wu
    @MrKaiju-sr8wu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Baryonyx also appears in the Capcom video game Exoprimal, with a very spiky design. There’s a lot of dinosaurs in that game that you’ve also made many interpretation videos on already, such as Carnotaurus, Ankylosaurus and ofc T. Rex, as well as monstrouse mutated forms of some of them

  • @Caylen666
    @Caylen666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Great work as always King, can’t wait for the eventual Steggy interpretation video.

  • @maximaldinotrap
    @maximaldinotrap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The loading Screen/Cover of Ark is indeed a Baryonyx. It even has the same head spikes.

  • @the_death_phantom5332
    @the_death_phantom5332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just so you're aware Baryonyx was confirmed to be one of the six og animals from the original roster coming to Prehistoric Kingdom's early access so don't you worry.

  • @wildharpy6435
    @wildharpy6435 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Battle of giants: Dinosaur Strike was a game from childhood, that one had Baryonyx in it. It was a fighting game, and i don't remember much, but it was fun

  • @BaryKKGorgon
    @BaryKKGorgon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Baryonyx is the best boy!
    And also, great video as always :D

  • @rahmel5964
    @rahmel5964 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The many interpretations of Giganotosaurus .

  • @michaelbuono4007
    @michaelbuono4007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For prehistoric kingdom if the animal has a walk cycle it’s a pretty good that it will be added

  • @Anonymous-lv4di
    @Anonymous-lv4di 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    12:49 OMG THAT'S AWSOME IT LOOKS SOOO MUCH BETTER

  • @brianlevine871
    @brianlevine871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    From what I've seen of "Dinosaur Britain" and "The Isle," their respective takes on Baryonyx succeeded in capturing that unique look for the dinosaur. I also thought Rudy from "Ice Age 3" had an awesome design and interesting rivalry with Buck.
    However, I'm also not fond of the "Jurassic World" Baryonyx. It looks too monstrous with the mangled teeth and it looks more like a standard theropod with a somewhat stretched-out head. That said, I liked how "Camp Cretaceous" handled this version of the dinosaur, both for being threatening antagonists and having an amusing family dynamic. Also, that "Primal Ops" update actually looks pretty decent, since the head is more accurate and kind of resembles the JP3 Spinosaurus.

  • @sabretoothtiger4314
    @sabretoothtiger4314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    MY FAVORITE DINOSAUR, WOO HOO!

  • @trainertealvgc2267
    @trainertealvgc2267 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Baryonyx is my favorite Ark Creature

  • @Giovanni_CMS
    @Giovanni_CMS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just woke up to one of my favorite channels

  • @gamerprincess9567
    @gamerprincess9567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is a baryonyx on the ark loading screen. In game, its one of my favorites both for appearance and in-game versatility

  • @velociraptor4you3291
    @velociraptor4you3291 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Buck: _"Hello, _*_RUDY!"_*

  • @Baryonyx7x7x7x7
    @Baryonyx7x7x7x7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love Baryonyx I always enjoyed how it appear in many medias including Jurassic Park/World, Ice Age, and Dinosaur King

  • @hcollins9941
    @hcollins9941 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find that one of the craziest things about baryonyx is that it’s actually still under debate on whether or not the fossils we have a baryonyx; especially the holotype; might not be a fully mature animal!

  • @QueenClaireVT
    @QueenClaireVT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For the longest time, I thought Rudy was a suchomimus given the large size

  • @josiahdrake2632
    @josiahdrake2632 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I also choose this dinosaur as number 2 for my family’s animal mascot the Drakes!

  • @MistyRainfallSprout06
    @MistyRainfallSprout06 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rudy!! ❤❤

  • @axeljairperaltaaguilar1084
    @axeljairperaltaaguilar1084 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it would be cool if you include the designs of tiny dino world on your videos, it was a nice app game with some very interesting designs, anyway great video

  • @NetheriteGuy14-vs7ne
    @NetheriteGuy14-vs7ne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe at some point, you could do a many interpretations video for a marine reptile like Mosasaurus.

  • @gattycroc8073
    @gattycroc8073 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    well I was expecting a video of Baryonyx's cousin Suchomimus due to its brief appearance in the incredibly underrated documentary When Crocs ate Dinosaurs.

  • @DoodersDen
    @DoodersDen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hmm... I approve of this video.
    Lmao fr though, YES, my boy got an episode!!!

  • @Inflatablerexguy
    @Inflatablerexguy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn who knows how big the ice age spino would be if that’s the bary

  • @CeratsTheCrunch
    @CeratsTheCrunch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My boy bary!

  • @eagc7
    @eagc7 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now we can add the new Fairly Oddparents show to the list of Baryonyx appareances

  • @youtoob6268
    @youtoob6268 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After seeing the animation where someone replaced the JWFK bary with a realistic one I really wish they made it closer to that, it was so cool ands till intimidating

  • @oliverking7227
    @oliverking7227 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should look at the Minecraft mod prehistoric nature it has over 800 accurate prehistoric animals and they are only at the Jurassic so I would have a look at it if I were you

  • @bushmonkey140
    @bushmonkey140 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are two physical Lego baryonyx figures in set 75935, Baryonyx Face off: the treasure hunt, and 76942, Baryonyx boat escape, they have two different colorations, but I dont know how different the molds are, I think they are different than the Lego game.

  • @DinosaurianDude
    @DinosaurianDude 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In regards to the Jurassic World Bary: I agree wholeheartedly. The website design was paleonotologically accurate recreation from 2015.

  • @alecdeflorio9941
    @alecdeflorio9941 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey man love your videos always been fascinated with dinosaurs and love learning more about them, where you from?

  • @venomssz
    @venomssz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The dino in the ark cover art is a baryonyx. suchomimus is not in the game currently but is available through mods

  • @Betweentheraindrops8
    @Betweentheraindrops8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:45 looks like the accurate version of the baryonyx trio in Camp Cretaceous.

  • @emmanuelbaltazartorrescisn9639
    @emmanuelbaltazartorrescisn9639 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey there, I was just wondering, if given the chance, would you perhaps do at least the many interpretations of Mosasaurus?
    I've heard that Mosasaurus is getting a lot of attention lately in some dinosaur documentaries like Dinosaur Revolution, DinoWorld, Sea Monsters: a Prehistoric Adventure, March of the Dinosaurs and Prehistoric Planet, but also in movies like Jurassic World and Aquaman, as well as some games like Hungry Shark Evolution/World, Jurassic Park Builder, Jurassic World: The Game, Jurassic World Evolution 2, Saurian, Beasts of Bermuda and Path of Titans. 🦖🦕🐉🦈🦭🐬🐋

  • @dunsparce4prez560
    @dunsparce4prez560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On the Ark loading screen that is definitely baryonix. Source: I’ve been playing Ark for 7 years

  • @hehehehaw21
    @hehehehaw21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was him, barry

  • @andkon73dex44
    @andkon73dex44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this channel I hope to be a paleontologist in the future and would love to find a full fossil like Dilophosaurus

  • @puffyshark9980
    @puffyshark9980 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the Dinosaur Britain rendition, is the nostril placed right? I just noticed it might be a little bit too far from the snout but I’m no expert

    • @Corvus_Corax_2004
      @Corvus_Corax_2004 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Spinosaurids had the nostril way further up on the skull. They had their jaws dipped in the water for fishing and they moved it up towards the eyes so they wouldn't drown while waiting for prey to swim by.

  • @demeterstidbits7146
    @demeterstidbits7146 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You’re absolutely right about not liking jurassic world bary and should say it!!! Seeing that website design vs the movie pissed me off 😭😊

  • @danilodesouza6461
    @danilodesouza6461 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make "The Many Interpretations of Pteranodon"?

  • @christosdoesthings
    @christosdoesthings 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:30
    *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
    Jokes aside, back in the 1930s, Stromer and Co. already theorised that spinosaurus might have been a psicivore, with teeth specialized for vertical strikes.

    • @prehistoricchannel128
      @prehistoricchannel128  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes the idea was brought to the table. However, it was heavily disputed, with many believing that the teeth were too weak to snatch that struggling prey. It wasn’t until the stomach contents were found that it was more agreed upon. The time in which it was accepted is mainly what I’m referring to.

    • @christosdoesthings
      @christosdoesthings 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@prehistoricchannel128 Thats fair

  • @superiorcybergodzilla5670
    @superiorcybergodzilla5670 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The original antagonist of Jurassic Park 3

  • @Anonymous-lv4di
    @Anonymous-lv4di 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:08 Who gives you flack? The only movie design that's worse is Sinoceratops with GAPPING HOLES IN IT'S SKULL

  • @hehehehaw21
    @hehehehaw21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do stegosaurus?

  • @shawnbrunner4097
    @shawnbrunner4097 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the Baryonyx from ParaWorld?

  • @toxicjay8562
    @toxicjay8562 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There was a baryonyx and a suchominus in the 2023 movie dinosaur prison

  • @carmelosaurus7480
    @carmelosaurus7480 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know what’s a game franchise that held many of the dinosaurs in this series! BATTLE OF GIANTS DINOSAURS!!

  • @chrissquibbs6099
    @chrissquibbs6099 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed this one and really appreciate you being willing to say that the JW design sucks because it does lol I hate it haha. Everytime I play JW evolution I won't place that dino cause I hate it's look.

  • @dudbolt2719
    @dudbolt2719 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You’re right about Jurassic World baryonyx, it’s so bad.

  • @thomasembleton1467
    @thomasembleton1467 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You missed the lost world ps1 game they appear in enter carefully

  • @darthsol658
    @darthsol658 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought Rudy from Ice Age 3 was a Suchomimus

  • @dagoodboy6424
    @dagoodboy6424 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nobody talks about thr fact baryonix may have grown as big as suchomimus

  • @edzeal5901
    @edzeal5901 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I also hate baryonyx from Jurassic world for the same reason

  • @ivanlol7153
    @ivanlol7153 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my wish came true

  • @GojiOfGamma
    @GojiOfGamma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk if anyone else has this, but there is also an actual lego figurine of baryonyx and i actually own it.

  • @Dinoramascuplts-Tyrex
    @Dinoramascuplts-Tyrex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:33 a little after this you say that baryonyx more likely than not had lips if it hunted like herons.
    I don’t disagree that seems reasonable, but what is your reason cuz I have multiple that conflict each other.
    For: spent a lot of time with head out of water teeth dry= teeth break= starvation= baryonyx die 💀
    Against: lips may get in way while trying to catch fish and instead of being bitten with mouth knives, fish gets bitten with its lizard lips.
    I myself think a river dolphin lip situation to be going on here, the lips would only go halfway then the fangs jut out of its horrifically elongated maw.
    Sry for reader as I can’t condense my thoughts.

  • @cristhianmlr
    @cristhianmlr 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fossil Fighters has to be the emoest dinosaur to ever emo

  • @godzilla44556
    @godzilla44556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HEY i love baryonyx and jwfk baryonyx 😂

  • @christianrichard9029
    @christianrichard9029 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m late but the wildest thing about the Jurassic world one is the suchomimus design is good 😭 so why is the baryonyx one so bad

  • @ComradeBobcat39
    @ComradeBobcat39 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wait its a hot take to not like the fallen kingdom design?
    Because that design fucking sucks the website design was amazing but they crapped on it

  • @nicolaschahin7682
    @nicolaschahin7682 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Acrocanthosaurusssss

  • @MrWanapon
    @MrWanapon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And I thought Rudy was a White Suchomimus

  • @nightfury4399
    @nightfury4399 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i honestly thoght rudy was a suchomimus

  • @elmsigreen
    @elmsigreen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the design of the animal that they claim is a baryonyx in Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. But it doesn't look like a baryonyx. So I don't like it as a baryonyx.

  • @Baryonix55
    @Baryonix55 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You forgot the Baryonyx in The Lost World Jurassic Park on PS1.
    Also I want some elaboration on why you get flack for not liking the Fallen Kingdom design. I don't understand that. I've never seen anyone like that design, it's horrendous. I was so excited to hear we were finally getting Baryonyx on the silver screen as it's my favorite Spinosaurid and one of my all time favorite dinosaurs. Then I saw it in the trailer and was immediately pissed. That's not Baryonyx, that's Dinocroc. Or Supergator, whichever of those movies you like better I guess. I will be forever enraged that we got Dinocroc instead of Baryonyx. This atrocity shall never be forgiven.

  • @DeviljWheat
    @DeviljWheat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I do not know why would you catch flack for stating the truth. The JW Baryonyx is very much a letdown compared to most iterations of the same design. Especially when there was another one prior that was more colorful and less generic. Given the color scheme of the Film Bary and the JWD Giga. You could be forgiven for mistaking them as ontogenetic stages of each other.

  • @dunsparce4prez560
    @dunsparce4prez560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don’t like the JW bary either. It looks like the most generic movie dinosaur ever.

  • @Alice-jn4gv
    @Alice-jn4gv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi

    • @Alice-jn4gv
      @Alice-jn4gv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with your opinion on the Jurassic World Barryonyx

  • @Kurotitan7125
    @Kurotitan7125 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I won't give you flak for hating the JW Baryonyx design. I think it's neat, but personally I just had gotten so sick and tired of it and Sinoceratops being the butt of the worst Jurassic designs ever "jokes"

  • @funtimewithfalcon
    @funtimewithfalcon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Big fan of Jurassic Park. I still agree with you on that baryonyx is
    Ugly

  • @tm43977
    @tm43977 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Baryonyx design in media also do a stegosaurus And mammoth interpretation

  • @daviddunbar9891
    @daviddunbar9891 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like all of them! ❤ Especially Rudy!😎 Except JWFK baryonyx.😠

  • @shubisharanraghavan2296
    @shubisharanraghavan2296 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A hot take for your hot take: The Jurassic World Baryonyx looks better in everything other than Fallen Kingdom.
    It looks good in Camp Cretaceous. Looks good in Primal Ops. Looks good in Evolution, JWtG and JWA. Everything but Fallen Kingdom.

  • @usmanya5110
    @usmanya5110 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i don't blame you for not liking the JW bary design. ya know i'm suprised people would defend it. the Thing looks awful. and i can't tell one of it's traits where is the larger claw? and It looks like an american Alligator with Longer legs and a longer neck. and the color scheme just feels bland compared to the older JW design

  • @ShinGhidorah17
    @ShinGhidorah17 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Jurassic World Baryonyx looks awful.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it looks like an american alligator with longer legs and and longer neck

  • @stxticnathan6627
    @stxticnathan6627 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nobody likes the jw baryonyx, it's terrible