I love that you have a logical discussion of the Holy Bible. But I have a problem with your graphics. When quoting the creation of the Earth you show a flat earth, which every logical, intelligent human being knows is false, or world is round.
Its for sure not a globe and the sun is not the centre - thats what the Bible teaches. Please look into what the scriptures teach with an open mind - God will reveal the truth to you. God bless.
Greetings, friend. Although it sounds a bit strange to our modern ears, you are correct that I am indeed saying "help meet." That is how it is written in the KJV Bible I was quoting from: Genesis 2:18 King James Version 18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. "Help Mate" is definitely a more fitting modern translation. Have a blessed day!
According to Genesis, in what order were the land animals, man, and women created? This “simple” question has two different answers. According to Genesis 1:24-27, God creates the land animals (vv. 24-25), and then man and woman (vv. 26-27). However, in Genesis 2:7, God creates man, and then in v. 19 creates animals, and in v. 22 creates woman. Thus, the commonly heard idea that Genesis 2 is an elaboration upon Genesis 1, filling in various details, does not work-the two accounts tell different stories. And before you give me the standard apologist answer that one chapter compliments the other Genesis: 1 credits Elohim Genesis: 2 credits El-Yahweh Credit: Prof Marc Zvi Brettler Duke University
Good morning. You didn't watch the video. I immediately rejected the standard apologists' answer (it's literally the first thing I do after the introduction), and I address the exact conflict you've brought up. There are word differences in Hebrew that are being translated into English as if they are the same word when they are not. It changes the meaning. While people may still choose to interpret it different ways, the most rational approach is the one that brings unity, which you'll see from the video does not require leaps of logic but rather emerges from the practical application of logic. The reason I say an interpretation that brings unity is rational is because the author of the first five books of the Bible is obviously literate and capable of relating stories. The very idea that he spent the entire first chapter describing the order of creation in great detail and then five sentences later forgot everything he wrote and changed the order is incredulous. It makes more sense that something was lost in translation than that he is saying one thing and then immediately contradicting it. As you will see, much was indeed lost in translation.
@@wheatNtares *the author of the first five books of the Bible is obviously literate* You are wrong. The torah is clearly written by 4 different groups. The writings were strung together by scribes. *As you will see, much was indeed lost in translation* The 2 Noah stories? The 2 Joseph stories? Moses has multiple different fathers-in-laws from different tribes. the 5 different endings for Joshua? Try again. You are only deceiving yourself.
@@wheatNtares This will help you [Genesis37] Meanwhile the Midianites had sold him in Egypt to Potiphar, one of Pharaoh’s officials, the captain of the guard. [Genesis 39] 1 Now Joseph was taken down to Egypt, and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, the captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had brought him down there. You can't have it both ways
@@wheatNtares *There are word differences in Hebrew that are being translated into English as if they are the same word when they are not. It changes the meaning* So this guy does not know Hebrew? Prof. Marc Zvi Brettler is Bernice & Morton Lerner Distinguished Professor of Judaic Studies at Duke University, and Dora Golding Professor of Biblical Studies (Emeritus) at Brandeis University. He is author of many books and articles, including How to Read the Jewish Bible (also published in Hebrew), co-editor of The Jewish Study Bible and The Jewish Annotated New Testament (with Amy-Jill Levine), and co-author of The Bible and the Believer (with Peter Enns and Daniel J. Harrington), and The Bible With and Without Jesus: How Jews and Christians Read the Same Stories Differently (with Amy-Jill Levine). Brettler is cofounder of Project TABS (Torah and Biblical Scholarship)
@@fordprefect5304 The facts I have provided are indisputable. It is not the same word used to "make" Adam as is used when stated they should "make" Adam a help meet. Period. In the other instances, the latter word is translated as "will do" or "shall provide." The team that puts together the Hebrew Strong's Concordance knows Hebrew too.
Abraham's god also created light BEFORE creating a LIGHT SOURCE - then DID NOT KNOW the goodness of light until AFTER HE SAW IT - so light was created OF IGNORANCE. It takes only ONE instance of divine IGNORANCE to negate our ALL KNOWING CREATOR. However ... Abe's god DID NOT KNOW the goodness of ANY of the creations until AFTER he saw them - - it was ALL created OF IGNORANCE. Abe's god DID NOT KNOW if Adam and Eve would eat or not until AFTER THEY ATE ... more IGNORANCE. then DID NOT KNOW where they hid and had to call out to find them. Abe's god DID NOT KNOW if Abe would obey so had to "test" him. Abe's god COMMANDED Abe to sacrifice Isaac as a burnt offering IN PERSON - but Abe did not obey his god .. instead, he obeyed a mere angel - wasn't satan AN ANGEL??? There are over 1400 instances of divine IGNORANCE in bible. Abe's god IS NOT our ALL KNOWING CREATOR ... It is: THE GOD OF IGNORANCE ... period.
Wonderful, your delivery is received and sppreciated for its edifuing . Thank you brother and Thank you Lord for such truth being declared 🙏✝️ AMEN
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God bless you in your ministry, looking forword to more videos, thank you!
Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. May God bless you and yours as well!
Genesis One is the OVERVIEW (God's View), Genesis Two the details (man's view)
I love that you have a logical discussion of the Holy Bible. But I have a problem with your graphics. When quoting the creation of the Earth you show a flat earth, which every logical, intelligent human being knows is false, or world is round.
Its for sure not a globe and the sun is not the centre - thats what the Bible teaches. Please look into what the scriptures teach with an open mind - God will reveal the truth to you. God bless.
Are you trying to say the word helpmate? I can't tell the word you are trying to say. It sounds like you are saying help MEAT.
Greetings, friend. Although it sounds a bit strange to our modern ears, you are correct that I am indeed saying "help meet." That is how it is written in the KJV Bible I was quoting from:
Genesis 2:18
King James Version
18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
"Help Mate" is definitely a more fitting modern translation. Have a blessed day!
According to Genesis, in what order were the land animals, man, and women created? This “simple” question has two different answers. According to Genesis 1:24-27, God creates the land animals (vv. 24-25), and then man and woman (vv. 26-27). However, in Genesis 2:7, God creates man, and then in v. 19 creates animals, and in v. 22 creates woman. Thus, the commonly heard idea that Genesis 2 is an elaboration upon Genesis 1, filling in various details, does not work-the two accounts tell different stories.
And before you give me the standard apologist answer that one chapter compliments the other
Genesis: 1 credits Elohim
Genesis: 2 credits El-Yahweh
Credit:
Prof Marc Zvi Brettler
Duke University
Good morning. You didn't watch the video. I immediately rejected the standard apologists' answer (it's literally the first thing I do after the introduction), and I address the exact conflict you've brought up. There are word differences in Hebrew that are being translated into English as if they are the same word when they are not. It changes the meaning.
While people may still choose to interpret it different ways, the most rational approach is the one that brings unity, which you'll see from the video does not require leaps of logic but rather emerges from the practical application of logic. The reason I say an interpretation that brings unity is rational is because the author of the first five books of the Bible is obviously literate and capable of relating stories. The very idea that he spent the entire first chapter describing the order of creation in great detail and then five sentences later forgot everything he wrote and changed the order is incredulous. It makes more sense that something was lost in translation than that he is saying one thing and then immediately contradicting it. As you will see, much was indeed lost in translation.
@@wheatNtares *the author of the first five books of the Bible is obviously literate*
You are wrong. The torah is clearly written by 4 different groups. The writings were strung together by scribes.
*As you will see, much was indeed lost in translation*
The 2 Noah stories?
The 2 Joseph stories?
Moses has multiple different fathers-in-laws from different tribes.
the 5 different endings for Joshua?
Try again. You are only deceiving yourself.
@@wheatNtares This will help you
[Genesis37] Meanwhile the Midianites had sold him in Egypt to Potiphar, one of Pharaoh’s officials, the captain of the guard.
[Genesis 39]
1 Now Joseph was taken down to Egypt, and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, the captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had brought him down there.
You can't have it both ways
@@wheatNtares *There are word differences in Hebrew that are being translated into English as if they are the same word when they are not. It changes the meaning* So this guy does not know Hebrew?
Prof. Marc Zvi Brettler is Bernice & Morton Lerner Distinguished Professor of Judaic Studies at Duke University, and Dora Golding Professor of Biblical Studies (Emeritus) at Brandeis University. He is author of many books and articles, including How to Read the Jewish Bible (also published in Hebrew), co-editor of The Jewish Study Bible and The Jewish Annotated New Testament (with Amy-Jill Levine), and co-author of The Bible and the Believer (with Peter Enns and Daniel J. Harrington), and The Bible With and Without Jesus: How Jews and Christians Read the Same Stories Differently (with Amy-Jill Levine). Brettler is cofounder of Project TABS (Torah and Biblical Scholarship)
@@fordprefect5304 The facts I have provided are indisputable. It is not the same word used to "make" Adam as is used when stated they should "make" Adam a help meet. Period. In the other instances, the latter word is translated as "will do" or "shall provide." The team that puts together the Hebrew Strong's Concordance knows Hebrew too.
Abraham's god also created light BEFORE creating a LIGHT SOURCE - then DID NOT KNOW the goodness of light until AFTER HE SAW IT - so light was created OF IGNORANCE.
It takes only ONE instance of divine IGNORANCE to negate our ALL KNOWING CREATOR.
However ...
Abe's god DID NOT KNOW the goodness of ANY of the creations until AFTER he saw them - - it was ALL created OF IGNORANCE.
Abe's god DID NOT KNOW if Adam and Eve would eat or not until AFTER THEY ATE ... more IGNORANCE. then DID NOT KNOW where they hid and had to call out to find them.
Abe's god DID NOT KNOW if Abe would obey so had to "test" him.
Abe's god COMMANDED Abe to sacrifice Isaac as a burnt offering IN PERSON - but Abe did not obey his god .. instead, he obeyed a mere angel - wasn't satan AN ANGEL???
There are over 1400 instances of divine IGNORANCE in bible.
Abe's god IS NOT our ALL KNOWING CREATOR ... It is: THE GOD OF IGNORANCE ... period.