I really like the touch-ups you did in this video (the "visual-chroma-aural" indicator is a really cool addition). I remember watching these videos back when they first came out back in 2014, and it kind of got me into a bit of AM-DXing. Even though I've been on-and-off with DX-ing over the past 7 years, there is a soft spot for when I catch something in Chicago (or even Bonaire!) from Louisiana during an AM-DXing session. Keep up the great work!
@@friesareyummy Not bad! I did actually manage to catch PJB out of Bonaire a few months ago (their 440kW of power somehow makes this a somewhat common catch at this point), and that's almost 2,000 miles from where I live. Alongside that, I've caught stations from Cuba, Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, Illinois, and Iowa, among other states. I've never managed to catch anything from Canada, but hopefully that should be happening soon.
WEDU/KMTV/KYTV/KIMT/WCIA/KSNW/KTVO/WSIL: all e-skip from KYW (Philly!) WFOR: e-skip from WNBC WPBT or WTVJ: e-skip of no station WPSD/KEMV: all e-skip of no station
Caught my attention. WCIA channel 3 is literally one block from where I am watching this here in Champaign. It's a historical power-watt VHF station that was easily reachable all over Central Illinois.
King island we received channels like this in the warmer months 1960s and 70s all cutting across one another from all over Australia as far away as Brisbane Queensland Adelaide Melbourne regional areas Tasmania as king island was in between Tasmania and the main land 😁I had to turn the big antenna to get a stable single.🇦🇺
So the Chroma info is sent on a separate frequency from the visual info? Interesting! I knew the audio had its own separate freq but didn’t know color did too.
I kinda knew that this existed, based on the fact that visual was for black and white screens and chroma was added due to the addition of color for TV.
WFSB was 90 degrees and over 100 km away. Any interference from it would've been negligible. E-skip is a sporadic mode of propagation... the signals fluctuate by the millisecond and run together with other distant signals from states bordering the station, or another part of the country altogether. Miami could fare a little better because there was nothing in the Bahamas or the Atlantic to interfere with it. A local-like signal via e-skip, stable for any period of time, is very very rare.
Absolutely. Though a strong local signal might be perfectly fine, it was common to see other signals 'ghosting' over weaker locals (which WCBS, WNBC, and WNYW were to me). Channel 3 would turn into a madhouse of multiple signals. It felt like I was picking up the whole country at once.
A verification of reception sent by the station. Standard practice among amateur radio operators, not so standard for TV and radio broadcasters anymore.
Probably, because WNBC is a local station for Long Islanders. This was also filmed less than one year after the dial position swap between WCIX/WFOR and WTVJ that occurred in September 1995, with WTVJ going to channel 6 and WCIX going to channel 4 and thus changing its call letters to WFOR.
1:18 You're stating that you had no local on channel 3. Wouldn't KYW 3 Philadelphia be (somewhat) local and be easier to catch than other channel 3 stations scattered across North America?
I really like the touch-ups you did in this video (the "visual-chroma-aural" indicator is a really cool addition). I remember watching these videos back when they first came out back in 2014, and it kind of got me into a bit of AM-DXing. Even though I've been on-and-off with DX-ing over the past 7 years, there is a soft spot for when I catch something in Chicago (or even Bonaire!) from Louisiana during an AM-DXing session. Keep up the great work!
@@friesareyummy Not bad! I did actually manage to catch PJB out of Bonaire a few months ago (their 440kW of power somehow makes this a somewhat common catch at this point), and that's almost 2,000 miles from where I live. Alongside that, I've caught stations from Cuba, Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, Illinois, and Iowa, among other states. I've never managed to catch anything from Canada, but hopefully that should be happening soon.
If only I DXed during the analog days. Oh well, at least analog FM e-skip still exists lol
So cool that now we get to see more of these stations during when you filmed them.
WEDU/KMTV/KYTV/KIMT/WCIA/KSNW/KTVO/WSIL: all e-skip from KYW (Philly!)
WFOR: e-skip from WNBC
WPBT or WTVJ: e-skip of no station
WPSD/KEMV: all e-skip of no station
Caught my attention. WCIA channel 3 is literally one block from where I am watching this here in Champaign. It's a historical power-watt VHF station that was easily reachable all over Central Illinois.
Thats impressive that you picked up
KSNW all the way in new york
King island we received channels like this in the warmer months 1960s and 70s all cutting across one another from all over Australia as far away as Brisbane Queensland Adelaide Melbourne regional areas Tasmania as king island was in between Tasmania and the main land 😁I had to turn the big antenna to get a stable single.🇦🇺
Clips improved from the original uploads
Sounds like you had KTVI Fox 2 (IDK if it was ABC still back in 1998 or not) under WPBT PBS 2
1:51 - 1:52 -- sounds like audio from WISC 3
That Could Be It, Since It Is The “Doughnut” Station In The Midwest. I Can Hear Some Lady Outspoken The Call-Letters Before The Following Wave.
Could be!
7:41 sounds like the andy griffith show opening, interesting. great video by the way!
So the Chroma info is sent on a separate frequency from the visual info? Interesting! I knew the audio had its own separate freq but didn’t know color did too.
Me either!
I kinda knew that this existed, based on the fact that visual was for black and white screens and chroma was added due to the addition of color for TV.
The color carrier was added onto the existing black-and-white standard in the 1950's.
Digital, OTOH, is boring. Just one carrier for everything.
Digital is neat but boring. Analog was messy but exciting.
@@friesareyummy The only thing fun about digital is the addition of subchannels, but everything else is boring...
4:08
I saw "WTLW Chicago" and I don't know why it's there.
That’s actually “WTTW Chicago”
It's the logo for the station providing the video for the PBS network.
@@jordanc9584 thanks
Is it possible that any interference on channel 3 could have been from WFSB in Hartford?
WFSB was 90 degrees and over 100 km away. Any interference from it would've been negligible.
E-skip is a sporadic mode of propagation... the signals fluctuate by the millisecond and run together with other distant signals from states bordering the station, or another part of the country altogether. Miami could fare a little better because there was nothing in the Bahamas or the Atlantic to interfere with it.
A local-like signal via e-skip, stable for any period of time, is very very rare.
I would imagine that during mega Es events, that most of Band 1 would have been super bloated with signals & pretty much un-watchable?
Absolutely. Though a strong local signal might be perfectly fine, it was common to see other signals 'ghosting' over weaker locals (which WCBS, WNBC, and WNYW were to me).
Channel 3 would turn into a madhouse of multiple signals. It felt like I was picking up the whole country at once.
Can you explain exactly what a QSL is? It looks like some sort of pamphlet or something right?
A verification of reception sent by the station. Standard practice among amateur radio operators, not so standard for TV and radio broadcasters anymore.
@@FloridaTVDX alright thanks that's actually pretty cool
WPBT seems like there was another station in there playing Saturday’s alright by elton john. Any idea who it was?
It was probably WCBS because that is a local station for Long Islanders.
Is there interference from WNBC in channel 4 in WFOR reception?
Probably, because WNBC is a local station for Long Islanders. This was also filmed less than one year after the dial position swap between WCIX/WFOR and WTVJ that occurred in September 1995, with WTVJ going to channel 6 and WCIX going to channel 4 and thus changing its call letters to WFOR.
It was WNBC. Even with the antenna turned, the distant signal needs to be pretty strong to push it out completely.
@@FloridaTVDX Like what WVEC did to WNET?
Jeez tropo that night must have been strong.
did u do dx from patchogue but in other countries?
Only CKPR in Ontario and that possible Cuban on 6.
@@FloridaTVDX CMG?
1:18 You're stating that you had no local on channel 3. Wouldn't KYW 3 Philadelphia be (somewhat) local and be easier to catch than other channel 3 stations scattered across North America?
He catches KYW a lot in his NY tropo videos.
KYW is not a local station for him
Reupload video? Not edit