Harley Dyno Tested -Dyna Lowrider S 110ci

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  • @Motonewbrider
    @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hi Guys, apoligies I did not list the results of the Dyno. They are ;
    Max Power - 98.39 bhp at Engine RPM = 4.66
    Max Torque - 119.25 at Engine RPM = 3.62
    My Air/fuel ratio needs a little work, so I'm going to do an autotune on the bike.

    • @nolanring2067
      @nolanring2067 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do the 117. i don't think you'll be disappointed.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, that is about 30 more hp than a 103 and probably 10 more hp than the stock 110. Did the stage 1 really help that much? I test rode a LRS but while it was super torquey I could tell it wasn't as quick as the torque was leading you to believe since it hits the rev limiter so damn fast.

    • @brasher12a
      @brasher12a 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Few anomalies here, yours is the highest "stage 1" power from a 110 I've ever seen, your tune is completely up the duff with the AFR wondering off the chart at high rpm/kpa so get that sorted. A realistic figure from a 110 is 93-95hp 110-115ft lb with a good tune and 2-1 exhaust. The guy is saying your pipe is to blame, it's the tune... or rather lack of tune that is the problem. Get that sorted out because these SE110's run very hot to pass stringent emission laws. Best money you can spend on your bike is a good tune, via SERT, Powervision or whatever you choose as every tuner has a preference.

    • @ChefPelle
      @ChefPelle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I test rode a demo S that had 118hp at the rear wheel. Don't know what they had done to it but it was at an HD AD. Fast and loud but unbearable to ride on the motorway.

    • @catdaddy3302
      @catdaddy3302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 2016 Street Bob 103 gets 98hp and 109 torque at mid range. I don’t have the print out in front of me now. I’ll probably stick with the 103 for now.

  • @22duke
    @22duke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would get the Dynojet Powervision + Dynojet’s Target Tune that consist of two wide band sensors. With that you can get a perfect A/F ratio line throughout the rpm range.

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sound good - I'm going to research this. Thanks for the advice.

  • @mikes8938
    @mikes8938 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're beast sounds amazing! Blub Blub Blub... Love the Dyna S for me one of the best Harleys they ever built. It will be my next bike as long I get one. Ride save!

  • @merlinphumc69
    @merlinphumc69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That guy talking about the pipe is full of himself, that pipe is not hurting you. The Vance and Hines competition is an excellent pipe, you just need an actual tune. 95-99HP and 115-120tq is about average on a stage 1 S

  • @fkwasinger
    @fkwasinger 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed the video “Harley Dyno Test”. It’s nice to see if the mods preform as advertised. Some mods can actually hurt performance. I’ll be looking forward to seeing how the tune up comes out.

  • @jefftilghman9059
    @jefftilghman9059 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome. I live the Dyna Lowrider S. Your's sounds awesome. That was some very good info to find out about your fuel mixture ratio. And I now know that a lean running bike runs hotter. Makes sense if you think about it. You sure don't want to burn a valve or the rings. Hey, keep it on the ground if you can. Ride safe over many miles with many smiles.

  • @geoffozevans4500
    @geoffozevans4500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    G'day Mark you should definatel do an Auto tune & get it checked again, if you blow your motor up you may not get it repaired under warranty. Was looking at an Aussie vlog over the weekend (Ducati pangiale I think is the name) & they did a stage 5 on a 2017 Breakout, & the motor blew up, & HD blamed it on the Vance & Hines quiet baffle, so be careful. Running lean isn't good Mark, so an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure , all the best 👍😎

  • @CantankerousOB
    @CantankerousOB 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bit off topic but you might want to check out the Rokform phone case and mount. Fits so well on my fxdls it looks like it was factory made. Similar to what you use but centers the phone perfectly on the bars and works great portrait or landscape.

  • @FatBoy740
    @FatBoy740 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid mate ! Only Harley there! Nice one👍. I just banged New shocks on and lowered the fatty and a new seat and big sucker and poss paint job over winter to come and Maybe some drag pipes and drag bars ! Ride safe.

  • @Kevb69
    @Kevb69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds like you're happy with it. Nice vid

  • @lakegeneva4851
    @lakegeneva4851 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great live stream btw. Interested also in the stage 2. Understand different cams are available. Interested to learn more about this for a M8 107 upgrade currently at 150NM. Winter? Riding of course!!

  • @hollowaysteve
    @hollowaysteve 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw your bike at Rykers today. It looks great. The pipe really suits it but like the guy says, free flowing pipes on Harleys without a proper set up is dangerous if you don't want to melt it. Harley's are lean from the factory to start with, and big air cooled V twins will always suffer. You'll need to throw some more fuel in with a proper tune.

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally, it's slightly annoying considering I've spent £300 on the V&H FP3 tuner. So this should not of happened.

    • @hollowaysteve
      @hollowaysteve 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Motonewbrider That tyre really works as well. Not 'stupid fat' but just right to my eyes. Suits the bike.

  • @BFD15i
    @BFD15i 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh this sweet torture.. Everytime I see one of your videos, I miss my LRS a bit more. Wonder how long I will last until I buy one again... Btw, the fatter tire looks nice. Good job.

  • @dastrongstig4831
    @dastrongstig4831 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting for my bike to ship from the plant I just ordered a 2018 street bob looking forward to your review of it

  • @MakoVette
    @MakoVette 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never say never to a 117" indeed :) No special winter-izing here, cuz California :) Worst case is I leave it parked for a few weeks when the rains come.
    FWIW, I used to work in an automotive dyno shop so have some experience here. Dyno-dude nailed the AFR issue. In fact it's sooo beyond lean I am wondering if the O2 sensor was picking up reversion of outside air pushing Back into the super short pipe and being "seen" by the sensor due to harmonics/standing waves. Leaner than stoichiometric/14.7:1 is way not good, and a ~12.2:1 AFR when in power enrichment mode to avoid detonation is advisable.
    I seem to recall that Dynojet recommends the sniffer be at least 18" in from the end of the exhaust pipe to minimize this issue, and your pipe is barely 18" long if that in total :)
    So a couple of things on the dyno process:
    - I strongly prefer a smoothing level of 3 for sharing/discussing with the customer, and use Smoothing of 2 when deep dive diagnosing stuff. Smoothing = 5 hides far too much data that may reveal problem areas and makes it appear engines are smooth power delivery devices, which they are not. They are lumpy things, especially Harley's, once again due to that crank angle.
    - Ring up the dyno guys and get a copy of the digital file of your run then download the Dynojet Winpep viewer program so you can parse it: dynojet.com/downloads/downloads.aspx?dc=Software/Firmware should do it, if TH-cam doesn't block the URL...
    A longer final pipe to help cylinder scavenging (which is weird on a Harley due to the crank shaft angle that makes for the potato-potato exhaust sound) with a little bit of back pressure + a bump to a 6K RPM rev limiter with a proper AFR tune will pick up a lot of torque and a modest amount of HP. Regardless, a longer final pipe and a proper AFR tune will help your engine out a lot.
    CYa!
    Mako

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks fella - appreciate that.

  • @crazyblaze713
    @crazyblaze713 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 07' Street bob survived hurricane season in Florida (thank goodness). Gonna throw 14" apes than save for new exhaust air breather. Greats vids btw. Cheers

  • @dastadota
    @dastadota 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job mate, looks like around a 16bhp increase with the exhaust and tune. I’m still pondering which way to go with the exhaust so looking for a Dyno chart with maybe V & H Short shots fitted.
    What are you going to do about the bike running so lean? Because the power looks really smooth.

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Going to try Autontune mate via the FP3 or I may go another route. I'll be seeking advice on this though.

  • @scottbedsaul925
    @scottbedsaul925 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's all trial and error my man keep up the good work it'll come from Virginia in the states ride safe enjoy

  • @tattooedbill1
    @tattooedbill1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the same position as you. Slim S staged 1, do i go for 117 or stage 2. Good to follow your journey

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man.... Decision mate.

  • @davidepattarello985
    @davidepattarello985 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man nice video
    I have the same exhaust as you on my dyna, so i wanted to ask you in wich way it'isnt healty for the engine? Thanks

  • @readtheinstructions1407
    @readtheinstructions1407 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the left side of your handlebar, is that cruise control on the lower part of your switches, and if it is, did you install yourself or did you buy the bike with it already installed? Thanks!

  • @petterin1
    @petterin1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should definitely get the 117 ci

  • @ris87ree
    @ris87ree 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you considering to have your bike professionally tuned or just adding an auto tuner with a different fuel tuner? I have the same bike and was considering an Oil Bud oil cooler but now I'm leaning towards a professional tune first.PSI'm running a PCV with Two Brother's Comp S 2 into 1.

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going to work on the autotune on the FP3 and get it sorted mate and then retested.

  • @manosmilonakis6056
    @manosmilonakis6056 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The exhaust actually turned out pretty good and blend in with the rims nicely! What was the Horse Power and the Torque on this thing though ? I really wanna know!

    • @slyguyaction
      @slyguyaction 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like about 96-98hp and 118ft torque if I'm reading it right. Pretty damn good

    • @manosmilonakis6056
      @manosmilonakis6056 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan's V-Twin Vlogs well tbh I expected a little more Hp from this beast. And about torque well I'll have to look it up cause I know the Nm system! But I know that it has a lot

  • @rickmancr
    @rickmancr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Were those figures as measured at the rear wheel or the calculated/estimated crankshaft numbers?

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rear wheel buddy.

    • @rickmancr
      @rickmancr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chwarae teg, that's impressive.

  • @subzero18851
    @subzero18851 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice bike! It is running scary lean though... You can probably gain a few hp at the higher rpm's by giving it the proper amount of fuel. It looks like the graph started flat lining at the same time it went lean. Did you ever get it sorted out?

  • @darkoflight4938
    @darkoflight4938 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A cool vid as usual and an interesting topic! Yeah, maybe you should do a autotune. Running lean ain't a good thing.

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely mate - next job is autotune or I may getting it tuned by a pro.

  • @kennelldup
    @kennelldup 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What HP did you achieve don’t believe you said, I’ve got the same set up as you but I gave run the auto tune.

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      listed it up top mate (comments section) - sorry. Completely forgot to put that in the vlog.

  • @dheller777
    @dheller777 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing. Are you going to do the auto tune to see if it fixes your lean problem? I use the V&H FP3 on my FXDC and love it. Ride safe brother.

    • @catdaddy3302
      @catdaddy3302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve got the SE super race tuner. The orange one they don’t make anymore. I made my a lot richer than it was when I got it.

  • @CactusJack252
    @CactusJack252 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get that bike tuned up a bit and it will do nicely. Since you have a fuel pak then put it in auto tune mode for a while.

  • @tabaccoal1970
    @tabaccoal1970 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    good to know so now I wont be getting that exhaust pipe now but I do like the sound of those pipes but not worth it if its gonna run it lean and hot

    • @chunkyfxdls1878
      @chunkyfxdls1878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The pipe was fine look at that curve 🤷🏻‍♂️. It was the tune that was off

  • @g3rryn3ish1
    @g3rryn3ish1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought a forty eight and for some. Strange reason I think it's becoz of you ha

  • @carlwerner1777
    @carlwerner1777 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Buying a new hard candy iron 2018 carl from wales

    • @andylace709
      @andylace709 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carl Werner Good lad, I bet you can't wait I get the new Fat Boy next weekend black Tempest although they have come in for a lot of criticism I don't give a damn we like what we like. These videos are always good viewing.

  • @hoezaaa3838
    @hoezaaa3838 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gooi die vance and hines fp3 toch in de prullenbak en koop een Thundermax tuner

  • @roncoburn7771
    @roncoburn7771 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good power and funny

  • @aaronmcshane116
    @aaronmcshane116 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those pipe are one of the best that guy hasn't got a clue just get it retuned

  • @Crabbers_paints
    @Crabbers_paints 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    consider that like button slapped my friend lol

  • @1madmax22
    @1madmax22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I noticed they're are a few naysayers or deaf or dumb s.o.b's in this bunch. To whom it may concern: the guy has changed the hardware on the bike, so now the software has to be re-tuned to give that beast the fuel it needs so it doesn't run lean. Harleys are tuned too f'n lean from the factory anyway. So, you might as well open the airways in,I as well as out, then find a guy that knows how to tune on a dyno properly. Shove some more fuel in and it will run with a smoother response, have more torque, have more h.p., and stop burning itself out, thanks to our tax dollars at work for emissions. And BTW, even with the factory stuff on the bike it's still running too lean and too f'n hot. You can feel on the bike where the cat converter is that it's hot as hell. You have to do these mods to make it right and to make it run richer and cooler. Fast air in, fast air out, get the A/F mix right and no more problems with too much heat and lag time. My low rider is all stock and runs like shit. When I have money in hand, i will do the same thing. Increase air in, increase air out, get the map tuned right so it adds the right amount of fuel for the amount of air moving through the engine and be on my merry f'n way. It's not rocket science. It's fuel injection that needs the computer to tell it what to do when you throttle up. If it was carberated, you'd re-jet it until the fuel was right. I hope I'm right, cause I'm just guessing. Haha.

  • @truetrades7056
    @truetrades7056 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thry cross at 5252 everytime wth that guy dont kno how a dyno sheet works

  • @OEFarredondo
    @OEFarredondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    117?? Just get a 124ci your gonna do it anyways

  • @busterrabbit
    @busterrabbit 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's with all the f*cking noise! Shows that, aside from pissing off pretty much everybody, noisy aftermarket exhausts generally make little difference to performance, and in many cases make it worse. (certainly Harley engines don't work well with short exhausts, but hey they sound loud so everyone thinks you have a fast bike, right?) Noisy exhausts are not big or clever, but do get the authorities after ALL bikers, so thanks for that.

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi fella - 18 bhp increase from stock. So that's a good difference. To be fair I was on the same thinking as you that at a max it would be an increase of 2-4 bhp. Just an FYI I rider with a copper who has a harley and at the same time I've always had the cops along my side and never been pulled. Granted if your exhaust is super loud then yeah you will, however your more likely to get pulled for dangerous driving etc. Now stop moaning and get back on your bike and have fun.

  • @saddle8bag
    @saddle8bag 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "My bike is running super sweet." So then, the obvious thing to do is start fucking with it. Nothing like making a hot bike hotter by adding a bunch of expensive things so that you can get a better number on a piece of paper.
    The things humans do...

    • @Motonewbrider
      @Motonewbrider  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think you may of misunderstood me. The idea of getting the bike analysed today was to check it was running correctly after I had the V&H FP3 tuner added. Clearly the analysis emphasied that it needed a lot more work which I'm going to do so I don't have this leaner mixture issue.

    • @saddle8bag
      @saddle8bag 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put the stock pipe back on and your fueling will be fine, save your hearing, and not make people hate motorcycle riders.
      It's a Harley. 5% faster than slow is still slow. Enjoy it for what it is. Spend your money riding it somewhere nice and seeing some new things, eating some new foods, meeting some new people etc.
      If you feel the need for speed, pickup a used 600 and attend a track day. You won't get your license revoked for acting a fool and if you bin it, it'll only set you back about 1/4 of a Harley.

    • @BFD15i
      @BFD15i 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @saddlebag: Why don't you let HIM decide what he's enjoying and what not? If he wants more power and / or more grunt, let him do his thing. Just because one wants more power doesn't mean that he wants to go much faster. It's just that this little extra power makes riding this beast more entertaining and fun.

    • @saddle8bag
      @saddle8bag 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm trying to give him some guidance. He asked. Watch his videos...or most ANY street rider's videos. See how much time they spend redlining their bikes. Almost never. He could save a truckload of money by simply twisting his wrist a little further if that's what he seeks, but it ain't.
      It's not like he's the first motorcyclist to wannabe a spec sheet cowboy. Whaddya gonna do after you show your 5 buddies at the tavern how many more HP it made from stock? Probably cry in your beer when you realize how much money you've blown. Newsflash: you ain't gettin it back at trade in time.
      And Harley Twin Cams aren't known for taking to power particularly well anyway. Look up crank scissoring sometime. And it'll run hotter than it already does.
      I've heard that Harleys have an 80 mph limit in their owner's manuals because riding those flexi-flyer frames any faster can cause them to wobble like a drunken Weeble. That 110 will get to 80 mph plenty fast without handing a few more paychecks over to HD.
      Money is much better spent on gas, tires, and brake pads. And besides, I'd rather watch him out exploring than showing off his shiney new dyno sheet.

    • @1madmax22
      @1madmax22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess some of you can't read or hear the guy talk. He said he was getting the damn bike checked so he can get it tuned correctly. Harleys are leaned out right from the factory floor. Your tax dollars at work for emissions. Anyway, he's getting the thing to run right instead of the factory settings running it lean. And it's lean with the stock shit on as well. It pretty much needs to be retuned off the show room floor, so open the airways up and add some fuel and a good dyno-tune and you will have smoother, quicker, faster, and more torque response without the lean running b.s. which is what ruins the engine. It ain't rocket science.