Yeah but some TH-camrs use it to literally just to get the cash grab. Some TH-camrs literally will put a video that should be technically on the regular TH-cam channel because I have a whole series on the TH-cam channel. They will skip certain videos of that set series and say to view this episode you have to have a patreon. I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me to me that's just trying to take advantage of the subscribers and pressure them. That's one of the reasons I unsubscribe from channels. I could see having bonus stuff but why should I stay subscribed to something that is already on the regular channel just cuz I want to see an episode they didn't show us. Also some of us regular people who don't make money off of TH-cam and have jobs can't go putting in a subscription for a TH-cam channel or patreon so why should we let them take advantage of us.
I'd like to give my opinion on this matter as the comment really did open my thoughts. I absolutely agree, my suggestion towards Patreon or Memberships is to not restrict new videos or upcoming videos. As the Public videos are what brings in your revenue and likelyhood of exclusively giving content that only Patrons get to watch, Ultimately will not gain much of a fanbase when you restrict them from what you create. without a doubt it is a bad strategy and will not encourage people to buy your merch or get a Subscription if your examples or "Benefits" are poorly chosen. My Suggestion is, that you don't restrict your videos at all. What that does it takes away the viewing hours of your content and limit the amount of people that may potentially want to see a an entire series, But is Locked by a Paywall that only videos that are designated for them, Won't get enough revenue in the long run. Lastly, I just want to commend the video, I enjoyed it and it really did help see the light of what is suggested and opinions are soaring. Awesome Video Kevin Crowe, You've earned a Subscriber! :D
The benefit I see to memberships is that the Join button is right there, they don't have to go to another site or sign up for another site. They're already here and probably signed up.
I like your point very clear if you are only on YT might has well keep everyone there and if you already everywhere Patreon/buy me a coffee / Ko-fi sounds good option too, but what if you can have your own website and build a community on your own platform :) so much things, but keeping it simple might work better... again love the straight answer we know and sometimes we feel bad about.
Personally I can’t stand YT. They might as well change the name to “AdTube” because there are so many GD ads smh. It’s become insane the amount of ads they have & the frequency of them. YT has more ads than the Super Bowl half time show 🤦🏽♂️
Honestly, a lot more people should have YT Premium. It is the most valuable video streaming service on the market. More valuable than Netflix, Disney+, HBO max, etc.
Over the past year, many content creators have moved from TH-cam to publish content on Patreon only and have abandoned TH-cam or only use it to add their videos on Patreon. However, I don't have enough money to support as many as I used to be able to follow on TH-cam. And because I had to pick and choose who I will follow now. First of all, I dropped those who ask for over 30-50 euros per month to get access to watch their videos and also those I followed on TH-cam just for entertainment such as movie, paleontology and RPG content. At the moment, I only follow three content creators on Patreon and I pay a total of about 100 euros per month for access to videos, which is the same as the food budget of one person in Finland for a month and I have thought that it might still be too much for me.
Hi! Two short questions here: 1. Is the TH-cam membership audience free from commercials when watching those exclusive contents, given that they do not join the Premium scheme? 2. Patron allows TH-cam embedded footages. Again, must the patrons watch commercials? What if creators do not embed TH-cam, but directly use the Patron video function? Any difference? Thanks!
Members still have to watch ads. Same thing for patrons. BUT… one thing you could do for members and patrons is upload a separate unlisted video and leave monetization off.
@@KevinCrowe Just cause you turn off monetization on a video does youtube really stop showing ads? because they still show ads on channels that are not even monetized yet
I really like the point you made about multiple platforms. I never thought of that. For that reason alone, it seems like Patreon will be the winner. Thanks!
Can you explain what happens to the members only Livestreams - are they saved? Does the watch time count? Can membera watch the video later if they miss the Livestream?
Thanks! I think they’re cool, but if you have an audience in a lot of different places, they can complicate things. Just depends on the goals of the creator!
@@TysaNews yeah, I have a couple. One is a little over 2k and another I started in December but haven’t put enough time in. Only 321 subs right now but some videos have over 20k views. Gotta keep grinding haha
I don’t think discord integrates with TH-cam, but you could put the discord invite in the members-only community feed and then manually assign roles within discord, I guess
Hey hun I got a question.. Is Patreon more lax on their rules than TH-cam membership,when it comes to music, cursing, and also does Patreon have the same or more lax on KEY words than youtube is.. I know on youtube is is a horrible thing to mention words like KILL, MURDER, SEX OFFENDER, PORN, CHILD PORN and etc ... is Patreon the same or less lax on these things?
@@SingingwithLauren I primarily make content on instagram now, so I do IG subscriptions and buy me a coffee for people to support what I do. I think the best thing a creator can do is have their own products/membership on a platform like Kajabi, though, if you have things you can offer.
That's a lot more than patreon I believe. Setup a paypal or zelle'd and you get to keep a huge chunk of your money. Of all the channels I follow nobody is using membership, but going with the competition, which are many.
Thank you very much for talking about the difficult of deciding what to offer your audience. Especially if you have a Patreon account and Channel Memberships. This is something always on my mind when it comes to monetization. How different can this content be from my regular videos?? This video was great! Thank you.
@@KevinCrowe One last question... And It sorry it may sound stupid... Ok....i want to 2 start 2 channels..... One Real Estate and one Travel and Philanthropy. I want to monetize both.... do i need to create a second google account or can i set up both channels on one email account???
Good job Kevin. Thanks. God that there is automatic translation I want to learn how to use Patreon as a creator. I am learning the English language and it will be a challenge to communicate with the English-speaking community. I really don't know much about the tools. I want to run, but I'm just starting to walk. Greetings from Chile. Thanks Google translate.💪🏼
@@vegnewb I guess that would be the way to do it. I’m not sure how practical it would be. If you make an unlisted TH-cam playlist and link that on Patreon, it doesn’t auto play? Not sure I’ve ever tried that
@@KevinCrowe It would autoplay but you would not have any way to remove that benefit once they have the link. They could unsubscribe to your Patreon then have the playlist forever or until you deleted it, then if you delete it, all your other Patrons would lose access. You would have to keep remaking playlists.
@@vegnewb I guess that’s true. I feel like the amount of people who would take advantage of that would be low, but who knows? Kinda like membership sites where people can download all the content and leave
Patreon vs Buy Me a Coffee: th-cam.com/video/PLss4IceM-Y/w-d-xo.html
Yeah but some TH-camrs use it to literally just to get the cash grab. Some TH-camrs literally will put a video that should be technically on the regular TH-cam channel because I have a whole series on the TH-cam channel. They will skip certain videos of that set series and say to view this episode you have to have a patreon. I'm sorry but that makes no sense to me to me that's just trying to take advantage of the subscribers and pressure them. That's one of the reasons I unsubscribe from channels. I could see having bonus stuff but why should I stay subscribed to something that is already on the regular channel just cuz I want to see an episode they didn't show us. Also some of us regular people who don't make money off of TH-cam and have jobs can't go putting in a subscription for a TH-cam channel or patreon so why should we let them take advantage of us.
I'm not against patreon in itself I'm against the TH-camrs that obviously take advantage of it to just take advantage of the money of the subscribers
I'd like to give my opinion on this matter as the comment really did open my thoughts.
I absolutely agree, my suggestion towards Patreon or Memberships is to not restrict new videos or upcoming videos. As the Public videos are what brings in your revenue and likelyhood of exclusively giving content that only Patrons get to watch, Ultimately will not gain much of a fanbase when you restrict them from what you create. without a doubt it is a bad strategy and will not encourage people to buy your merch or get a Subscription if your examples or "Benefits" are poorly chosen.
My Suggestion is, that you don't restrict your videos at all. What that does it takes away the viewing hours of your content and limit the amount of people that may potentially want to see a an entire series, But is Locked by a Paywall that only videos that are designated for them, Won't get enough revenue in the long run.
Lastly, I just want to commend the video, I enjoyed it and it really did help see the light of what is suggested and opinions are soaring. Awesome Video Kevin Crowe, You've earned a Subscriber! :D
@@njorunmimisofficial Thank you!!
@@KevinCrowe Haha Your welcome!!
The benefit I see to memberships is that the Join button is right there, they don't have to go to another site or sign up for another site. They're already here and probably signed up.
@@3DJapan for sure a huge advantage
I have watched many of these YT vs Patreon. You make the most sense. Thank you.
Thank you so much!
Very helpful info in a concise fashion. Thanks.
Thank you! Glad it helped
I like your point very clear if you are only on YT might has well keep everyone there and if you already everywhere Patreon/buy me a coffee / Ko-fi sounds good option too, but what if you can have your own website and build a community on your own platform :) so much things, but keeping it simple might work better... again love the straight answer we know and sometimes we feel bad about.
Yeah, if you’re doing community only, I really like Circle! Started using it a while back. Definitely a lot of options out there
Personally I can’t stand YT. They might as well change the name to “AdTube” because there are so many GD ads smh. It’s become insane the amount of ads they have & the frequency of them. YT has more ads than the Super Bowl half time show 🤦🏽♂️
TH-cam Premium will change your life. Best money spent.
Honestly, a lot more people should have YT Premium. It is the most valuable video streaming service on the market. More valuable than Netflix, Disney+, HBO max, etc.
@@reqausxobiyes TH-cam premium is ABSOLUTELY wonderful !! NO ADS EVER!! BUT the creators still get thier money as if we was watching the ads ..
Over the past year, many content creators have moved from TH-cam to publish content on Patreon only and have abandoned TH-cam or only use it to add their videos on Patreon. However, I don't have enough money to support as many as I used to be able to follow on TH-cam. And because I had to pick and choose who I will follow now. First of all, I dropped those who ask for over 30-50 euros per month to get access to watch their videos and also those I followed on TH-cam just for entertainment such as movie, paleontology and RPG content. At the moment, I only follow three content creators on Patreon and I pay a total of about 100 euros per month for access to videos, which is the same as the food budget of one person in Finland for a month and I have thought that it might still be too much for me.
I think you can set it if someone becomes a member of your channel
Great work on explaining 😊I currently have both and yes, TH-cam does take a larger percentage but I enjoy both
Thank you!
My issue has always been that I can't figure out what to offer.
@@Trainfan1055Janathan I totally get that. Have you asked your audience what they might want?
Hi! Two short questions here:
1. Is the TH-cam membership audience free from commercials when watching those exclusive contents, given that they do not join the Premium scheme?
2. Patron allows TH-cam embedded footages. Again, must the patrons watch commercials? What if creators do not embed TH-cam, but directly use the Patron video function? Any difference?
Thanks!
Members still have to watch ads. Same thing for patrons. BUT… one thing you could do for members and patrons is upload a separate unlisted video and leave monetization off.
@@KevinCrowe Just cause you turn off monetization on a video does youtube really stop showing ads? because they still show ads on channels that are not even monetized yet
@@BleepingWorld I’m not sure, honestly. I think if you’re monetized, you have the ability to turn them off completely.
thank you so much for this video. it helped me decide which to choose. I choose the TH-cam membership and am working on setting it up now.
Awesome! Thank you :)
Can’t figure out how to join a channel. Got frustrated with it. So done trying. I’ll just watch free.
I really like the point you made about multiple platforms. I never thought of that. For that reason alone, it seems like Patreon will be the winner. Thanks!
Glad the video helped!
Can you explain what happens to the members only Livestreams - are they saved? Does the watch time count? Can membera watch the video later if they miss the Livestream?
😏 wasn't patreon the website for "modeling"?😏
Good info! I didn’t know anything about TH-cam memberships yet at all.
Thanks! I think they’re cool, but if you have an audience in a lot of different places, they can complicate things. Just depends on the goals of the creator!
@@KevinCrowe makes sense
Great video, bro! Very helpful.
Thanks a lot!
Looks like you’re getting some great traction on your vids! Congrats! Love the thumbnails
@@KevinCrowe slowly but surely! Thanks man much appreciated! Do
You have other channels?
@@TysaNews yeah, I have a couple. One is a little over 2k and another I started in December but haven’t put enough time in. Only 321 subs right now but some videos have over 20k views. Gotta keep grinding haha
@@KevinCrowe nice! Haha I hear ya. It’s definitely a grind
@KevinCrowe: What if I wanted to make a series of instructional videos (say 10-12 videos) on a skill set and charge per video.
What would you suggest?
Quick question, can you give discord perks using the youtube membership or is that just on patreon?
I don’t think discord integrates with TH-cam, but you could put the discord invite in the members-only community feed and then manually assign roles within discord, I guess
@@KevinCrowe Alright thanks.
Thanks 🙏 got about 2k on YT and over 4K on IG , but that’s really the only 2 platforms I use, would you get both ?
Both isn’t a bad idea, but it can split your focus and give your audience too many options. Do you livestream on TH-cam or just do videos?
Gracias por poner los subtítulos al español
Very informative video , thanks
You really helped me figure something out. Thanks.
Thank you. The message is understandable and educational.
Thanks!
Hey hun I got a question.. Is Patreon more lax on their rules than TH-cam membership,when it comes to music, cursing, and also does Patreon have the same or more lax on KEY words than youtube is.. I know on youtube is is a horrible thing to mention words like KILL, MURDER, SEX OFFENDER, PORN, CHILD PORN and etc ... is Patreon the same or less lax on these things?
I’m not sure to be honest. I think they’re probably a *little* more lax, but it’s something to look into
Any updates on what you’re doing now?
@@SingingwithLauren I primarily make content on instagram now, so I do IG subscriptions and buy me a coffee for people to support what I do.
I think the best thing a creator can do is have their own products/membership on a platform like Kajabi, though, if you have things you can offer.
TH-cam takes 49% from my SUPER THANKS😢
That's a lot more than patreon I believe. Setup a paypal or zelle'd and you get to keep a huge chunk of your money. Of all the channels I follow nobody is using membership, but going with the competition, which are many.
Thank you very much for talking about the difficult of deciding what to offer your audience. Especially if you have a Patreon account and Channel Memberships. This is something always on my mind when it comes to monetization. How different can this content be from my regular videos?? This video was great! Thank you.
Yeah, it can be tough to balance and figure out!
@@KevinCrowe what do you recommend for someone who has no idea where to even start for creating extra content on Patreon?
@@spanishblueprints I have another video specifically about Patreon ideas that might help!
Can I implement/include exclusive content via both Patreon and my personal website?
Yeah, definitely. You can do a membership site and put things behind a paywall
@@KevinCrowe thanks bro
Doesn't it seem subjective. In my humble opinion, it absolutely depends on the creator.
100%. Depends on what you’re trying to build and what your community wants.
@@KevinCrowe i know I'm quite late to the party lol. I appreciate the Content tho my friend.
How do you handle posting exclusive videos for members on both platforms?
You could do an unlisted TH-cam video that you put on Patreon and a link to it on a member-only community post on YT
@@KevinCrowe thank you
If Another content creator has a membership to your channel can they review your videos?
Can you limit your patreons per tier ?? For example tier 1 limit to 50 patreons … tier 2 only 50 etc etc
Yep! You can set how many spots per tier
@@KevinCrowe One last question... And It sorry it may sound stupid...
Ok....i want to 2 start 2 channels..... One Real Estate and one Travel and Philanthropy. I want to monetize both.... do i need to create a second google account or can i set up both channels on one email account???
@@coachbrian13 you can set up both on the same gmail account!
This is really helpful in my decision making. Jury still out but I'm closer.
Glad it was helpful! I struggle with shiny object syndrome, so it’s hard for me to pick one thing and stick with it 😆
Thank you!
Patreon does not allow one off donations.
thank you
Thanks Kevin, great info.. And you kept it simple! 👍
Thank you!
nice video buddy keep doing
Thanks!
Very usefull, and intresting point of view. Thank you 😉🙋♂🎣🦈
Thank you!
I followed some of your advice a few months back. Now I'm monetized! thanks for the advice.
That’s amazing! Congrats! I still plan on doing a channel review. I’ve just had a lot going on haha
@@KevinCrowe no worries. I'm working on several projects now that im monetized. 💪
Thanks!
Good job Kevin. Thanks. God that there is automatic translation I want to learn how to use Patreon as a creator. I am learning the English language and it will be a challenge to communicate with the English-speaking community. I really don't know much about the tools. I want to run, but I'm just starting to walk. Greetings from Chile.
Thanks Google translate.💪🏼
Glad the video was helpful!
The problem with Patreon is they don't have autoplay playlists. My subscribers want to listen to my videos in succession in their cars.
@@vegnewb could you make a subscriber podcast feed and add them that way?
@@KevinCrowe I don’t know how to do that. I wouldn’t know where to start. You mean make a separate audio only version for each video?
@@vegnewb I guess that would be the way to do it. I’m not sure how practical it would be. If you make an unlisted TH-cam playlist and link that on Patreon, it doesn’t auto play? Not sure I’ve ever tried that
@@KevinCrowe It would autoplay but you would not have any way to remove that benefit once they have the link. They could unsubscribe to your Patreon then have the playlist forever or until you deleted it, then if you delete it, all your other Patrons would lose access. You would have to keep remaking playlists.
@@vegnewb I guess that’s true. I feel like the amount of people who would take advantage of that would be low, but who knows? Kinda like membership sites where people can download all the content and leave
Fire video
Thanks, Marcos!
What other platform is out there other TH-cam & Patreon???
Some other options are buy me a coffee, ko-fi, and of course you could always host a membership on your own website
This was really good! Thank you!
Thanks!!
I personally prefer Patreon.
I do, too
get TH-cam premium, atleast they don't keep asking for your money after you order
I think Patreon has HACKED MY CHANNEL and locked it
Damn, TH-cam worse than income tax. Lol 😅😅😅
TH-cam is a million times better. patreon is a money pit.
What do you mean by this
Would you mind explaining why it's a money pit? Seems TH-cam 30% take is a lot higher