Warframe | Everyone Died on the Zariman INCLUDING You.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- If you're still wondering how the events of the Zariman took place in Warframe look no further.
0:00 - 3:16 Recap
3:17 - 5:00 The Zariman Ten 0
5:01 - 9:26 The Holdfasts
9:27 - 13:24 The Jump
13:25 - 18:50 TheoryCraft: The Deal & Eternalism
18:51 Outro - เกม
"borderline" magical abilities... *laughs and turns into a fairy*
When that bass-junkie lady with her rollypolly Boombox t-bags the floor and fucken disappears
😂😂
Ahahaha… “borderline magical” *grants immortality.*
Laughs and "magically" creates 4 more of herself to make fun of the Audience, IF they remain alive!
Don't mind if I just read some fancy poetry and journal entries to conjure Ball Lightning for throwing at you
“borderline magical abilities” *turns every cell in your body into antimatter*
"borderline magic abilities"
HA
*turns into a skeleton and steals your gun*
HA!
*launches a shadow reaper to steal souls*
I need more of these 🤣
HA!
*births a floating gem that shoots rainbows of pain at you*
@@InsomniacDoggo HA!
*spawns spores on your skin and makes gives you a virus*
HA!
*ZOOMS FASTER THAN GAUSS AND VOLT IN A STRAIGHT LINE*
"Borderline magical abilities"
Turns into all-consuming sentient puddle of water and rage
Hydroid!
It is important to note that the Orokin were a ruling caste, not the whole of society. Continuity was only available to this ruling minority of gilded elites. I don’t think it was Continuity-provoked overpopulation which led to ruin: rather it was the greed and recklessness of Orokin excess. (Which neatly mirrors several current crises.)
It's hard to say whether or not continuity was available to only a few Orokin because it was clear that many of them participated en masse. The reason I say this is because there are contradictory sources of information from what I understand. Thank you for sharing though!! I love debating 🙏😂 I mean that genuinely.
I've long had a theory that there was only one child on the Ten-Zero who took the Man in the Wall's deal, but since Eternalism, every child took the Man in the Wall's deal. The Ten-Zero allows for an overlap in Tenno
This explains why there are SO MANY
Because in all reality, there should only be at the most two of every Warframe
But you know, MMO RPG stuff
@@DollarStoreAbominationwhy two I missed it?
@@Dunkopf you, the player, and rell, the austistic coded kid that was the previous harrow user
@@inkwelldarkpit7722isn't it two of every frame because the original frames and then the copies YOU make?
Having it be rell makes absolutely zero sense considering rell has no reason to be crafting other frames. Even if rell wanted to craft or rebuild the other frames how could he? He trapped himself in harrow for so long when would he even have the chance to?
@@Dunkopf Original and Primes
Edit: My theory of the differences between originals and primes is the originals were the original Dax that were given the Helminth Strain and the Primes were the versions The Orokin made when they perfected transference technology for the tenno. This can explain why relics available change throughout our linear timeframe because the availability and development of said frames wouldn't have happened all at once. perhaps there is a set amount of time in the past that we are able to find relics, but Varzia is able to uniquely pick a timeframe through Aya. So in the linear time a Dax would be created into a warframe, and some time later that version would become Primed for the Tenno to use. This can also enable the convenience of the devs to slowly release the content while still be technically part of the law.
"borderline magic abilities"
Become a pinball of mass destruction
😂
"Borderline" Magical Abilities, your operator Literally has a transformation sequence and goes into a magic suit that significantly boosts their powers and lets them fly as a tiny sky rat, or *Rip a hole into space and time*
"borderline magical abilities" Aimbot wild west shooting
“Borderline magical abilities”
Summons grass on metal floors
I never liked biology anyway.😂🤷
I feel like warframe can be described as a post-apocalictic game, where the Orokin is just the humans, at their peak evolution
I believe this is exactly what they are, just not all of humanity were given the chance to become the Orokin
no it actually is everything fell apart after the orokin fell
@@Sheed96the Orokin fell BECAUSE everything was falling apart. Even with the Sentients gone the origin system was still doomed.
@@alexwashington8785 ok
You might be on to something
That is the path of "if the tenno didn't take the man in the wall's offer"
Eternalism says that every path is correct
word
"Borderline" magic abilities... Pfft.
*Drags you into the Rift, freezes you in time, and sips tea while your allies try fruitlessly to do anything*
I used to main limbo.... Don't hate me
"Borderline magic abilitys" ha. sends you to another plane of existance (limbo)
Tenno's abilities encompass conscious transference and manipulation of the Void within physical or mental realms pretty much manipulating matter, or reality, hence we can phase through stuff and void sling/teleport, void beams are pretty much void radiation. Tenno possess the capability of initiating continuity at will, transferring their consciousness to willing or vacant vessels, such as Warframes. While they inhabit physical bodies, it would be an oversimplification to confine them solely to that form. While some aspects may be speculative, they coalesce into a coherent narrative when examined collectively. Warframes serve as conduits or catalysts, necessary for mitigating the strain of our powers. I appreciate these lore videos keep up the great work g
My theory is that we infact no longer posses bodies rather the snap shot of the look in the moment of the deal while being void bull shat and drifter is dominuses "hero role" for his mental cope given something like reality by the void and dominus is a traped version of us on the zariman via eternalisim
@@kalev_knight I would even say that we don't necessary posses bodies, but posses an idea of having a body - while we are aware of our existence, definite form of it is a product of our mind, hence our ability to appear in multitude of forms, since they are not really physical elements of reality, but our idea of them, And since our idea of our body changes once we use transference, we loose the idea of our appearance or in some cases position to embody another, this time - real/physical being.
@@strgn1360 the idea of our body is the point I was going for with the "snap shot of the look at the moment" since other than drifter we don't see any physical change in operator outside of the cosmetic
@@strgn1360 i think that beats the point of form, when referring to the requiem mods and their names. Jahu Xata and Lohk so on. Form is a fixated point. Although we are form fluid. Form still exists. Warframes are literally 3D printed life forms. Hence you get their parts and build them. Each of them had one form that got built and initialized for continuity. Then they simply was given to the tenno. Form is still as important as void. Because remember we use our powers too much. We lose form and a grasp on reality. And practically lose sentience or meaning. The void is just space. The man in the wall, i still can’t figure out what the maliciousness comes from. Cause it insinuates void is bad. When in reality void, is just everything. Intention determines if something is harmful. Imagine if you tried to extend your consciousness too far, youd lose yourself. I think using void powers works the same. Hence why we can’t just void nuke everything. Cause we quite literally risk not existing anymore. Thats why warframes exist. It’s really top tier lore ngl.
@@kalev_knight I'm aware of your point, but I'm referring more towards "Meta" of things - we can have any appearance, any face, skin tone and voice, just as Cavia is able to possess any colour, just as Lotus able to possess any appearance, for me it's representative of the change that operator, drifter, Lotus and Cavia went through - whatever our forms are, they are not representative of any physical form, rather our idea of it, our belief and desire - we are the operator as long as we believe that we are one, and we are the drifter as long as we believe that we are one, we are led by Lotus/ Margulis/ Natah that appear to keep/change colours of choice after the ending of particular quest.
Kahl might be a customisable character, but he refers to his gear only as to his gear, while reacting to changes, but it is not the case with Lotus and us - we change forms in ways beyond just changing gear. We change the essence of our being and leave it into nothingness whenever we embody something that is not us.
There is possibility of transference being similar to projection on missions, but that wouldn't explain our ability to connect to our Warframe on Kuva Fortress, nor the fact that we got physically stabbed, therefore the only explanation I can find for our form is that we do not possess a physical presence in reality, rather a physical representation of mental presence, which can take any form.
Idea of our presence being mental would be consistent with how The Void functioned so far - plane where ideas gain forms whether their authors want it or not. And they must really want it.
"borderline magical abilities"
HA
*opens a portal to the sun*
Not as strong as it should be😂
tbh i always theorized that the tenno kids were just void recreations and not simply "given powers." wally effectively killed us but also remade us (like the holdfasts) and sprinkled some void abilities in. Only the drifter is that same person from the Zariman Incident.
Absolutely that's the only thing that made sense. Otherwise you're saying that kids with powers, didn't know how to use them and survived an unknown entity for an unknown period of time. Thank you for watching!!
@@PenOfEvil However, IF that's true then to me it doesn't make sense why a void recreation made by the man in the wall (rell) was able to confine the man in the wall. Plus the whispers in the wall quest suggest that we, the dreamer, somehow managed to break out of the deal.
When the Drifter took the deal with Wally(it was the Drifter, not the Operator that started everything) it created countless versions of the Drifter due to Eternalism(the scene showing the dozens of different versions of your character). These versions became us.. the Operators. The other Tenno children with us were saved by the powers of the Void and as we see with the Cavia anything that's been exposed to the Void gains Void powers, whether they're aware of these powers, whether these power allow them to active control the Void or not, whether the exposure kills them is all up for debate.
The kids in the Drifters reality simply disappeared and appeared along with the Zariman in the Origin system, the Operators reality began the moment the Zariman returned to the Origin system(but obv we have the Drifters memory from before).
The moment these kids returned the Orokin immediately quarantined them(in cryopods to slow down the exposure killing us, or so they thought as exposure wouldve killed us a long time ago were that possible) and began researching on their powers. This led to Margulis designing the steps for Transference and eventually her standing against the Orokin. These kids didn't survive any amount of time on their own with powers out of their control as they got them the moment Wally saved them along with the Zariman. We can't be killed because we are literally the embodiment of the Void. Void Demons if you will(like Vor).
@@beardedzeus1337I liked this
@@beardedzeus1337 Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but the Drifter rejected the deal, it was the Operator that took it. That's why the Drifter had no powers and was stuck in the void.
Ok first off, you're the first person who really takes their time with the story of Warframe, and I adore it! I found your channel through chance with your Albrecht video, and I wanted to hear more. I'm fascinated by the world of Warframe, and the way you put the pieces together is amazing! Thank you for your videos so far!
Thank you so much!! Truly the best motivation I could possibly have. 🙌
"Borderline magical abilities"
Laughs in Za Warudo dimension
"toki wo tamare!!"😂
"but I will succeed" man that hit so hard. That alone deserves a sub. Thank you for the great video essay!
The sky is never the limit to someone who aims at the stars. I appreciate the sub! 🙏
"boarderline magical abilities" *chills in another dimension while blades made of water saw you in half*
In one of the data pads you can find on the Zariman theres a conversation between the Drifter and TMITW where he says "I said I'd save them, not you."
The Drifter did take the deal with TMITW but they werent saved. The Drifter is who we would be if we didn't get saved. We are just a version of the Drifter that did get saved because of Eternalism.
That's a rabbit hole in itself.
"magic" we have a magic book now, we had a frame that turns into a butterfly of death
Love some death butterflies.
That audio recording with the screams of people in the backround makes me wonder if that person was acutely sane talking to the kids or pretending to be
@@Sbeve_One terrifying
One theory I have had about why only the children ended up making a deal and surviving when pretty much everyone else didn't is because as children, their consciousness is less complex and more predictable and similar. In this case that would imply that there are more versions of the children on the Zariman across all of eternalism that would have taken the deal. All children are simply scared and would want any way out, whereas I think adults would have had more conflict and disagreement and foreseen more nuance about such a deal across their multiple versions. Therefore, I think of the man in the wall as really collapsing all of the externalism versions of something into one thing, and in the case of the Tenno, this made them stronger because all of their disparate versions were more similar than not and therefore compatible. The madness of the adults could therefore be explained as all of their externalism versions, once being collapsed, essentially "not getting along" leaving only the common elements intact, aka, ape brain violence shenanigans.
🫢 wait that makes a lotta sense!! Madness by proxy of other deals being made. The idea of multiple mindsets collapsing into one another would definitely cause madness in theory. The only problem is that madness seems a bit too controlled to me.
This could be the case but I don't think it's true because our realities only got collapsed upon accepting the deal. Maybe the adults saw visions of their other selfs or somehow got conscious of them to a degree but I don't think a true collapse happened
Truly one would think with that incessant knocking,
Bang... Bang... Bang...
Knock.. Knock.. Knock..
Rap. Tap. Tap.
He simply wants.. to be let.. in.
Rap. Tap. Tap.
Let that sink in
Rell was cast out by the others he didnt leave to protect them
he was still protecting us from the man in the wall.
@strateks9611 he said in the video that he distanced himself from them go read the comics they cast him away
It's only afterwards he took it upon himself to actively protect them
Kinda, its not really specified.
@@PenOfEvilRell literally calls you out in the quest while simultaneously defending himself, pushing the blame of his possession onto you. It's pretty specific.
@@WhenDevilsDuel Not only that but Palladino specifically says he was cast out for being different (aka autistic) in a very early scene of the quest. So yeah, super specific.
"It took me ten years to find an answer to something
I forgot about it in two seconds"
:3
This was very well made! I don't absorb story plots while doing quests, since I only absorb necessary info while learning something new so the lore flies over my head. After this vid I got the whole picture now, thank you!!!
Glad I could help!
Eternalism: Flex tape for plot holes.
Word.
Not entirely. It's a real thing not exclusive to warframe.
SHOUT OUT toRell for making that sacrifice to lock himself in his warframe to protect others from the Man in the wall
Free rell 😂😭💯
You guys are forgetting somethimg, we saw on lua it was several tenno under lotus control killing Erra, but only we are the special that always win. Thats why ballas sent us to the void.
Hm
Great vid man keep it up, love the lore dissect and warframe
Thanks, will do!
That was wild. Thanks for taking the time to put this together for us lost Tenno
"Another dead tenno" - Vor
I'm glad you enjoyed it! 🙌
Good job on the video. I appreciate the attempt and gave me clarity on some theories about the void.
I'm glad I could help!
Bro, I can’t wait to see your videos hitting 100K you deserve
🥹 Thank you!
Good job on the video dude! Keep up the great work! I’d love to see more Warframe from you :)
More to come!
Archimedian yonta: "In a way we're both void constructs... the difference being, I'm dead."
Good quote!
You have a natural talent for making captivating content! I really enjoyed this video and I think you should keep it up! :)
I don't ever plan on stopping🫡 Thank you!!
"Borderline magical abilities"
-Turns invisible and steals your sh*t
Lol
Congratulations and it was a great watch!
Thank you kindly!
“Borderline magical abilities”
Casually reaches into a whole new dimension just to copy someones weaponry
That's not magic it's creativity.
"regardless, there was a level of curiosity. There always is a level of curiosity in anything we are interested in. And the story that I'm about to tell you, is one that dwells on the peak of curiosity" F- see me after class
Can I do make up work?
"He's not a man, he's a holy half-dead whose seen the underverse" -Vocko 😂😂😂
"I bow to no man." -Riddick
@PenOfEvil One of the best series ever!!!
interesting video, have a nice one and good luck!
Thank you!
the question i've always wanted an answer to is "canonically , how many Tenno are out there ?" so far , we know about the Tenno operative that raids ships on Survival missions , there's the playable character (us) ... just two ???
Ooooo good question I see what you're saying, so maybe the two.
It's possible that tenno operative isn't a tenno themselves, but rather an agent of the tenno who works with us, simliar to the people we recuse in rescue missions (I say this as those agents all bare lotus symbols, which are obviously assosicated with the tenno
@@scorpiowarrior7841 that’s trueeee
also , if i’m not mistaken too , some of the Parvos Sisters’ dialogue mentions how they are pretty good at killing Tenno . but now that this could mean people that associate themselves with the Tenno as well , the answer seems more convoluted .
because if canonically there are as many Tenno as there are players in the game . it makes the Tenno look really really week . like enough of us for the worlds biggest army and we haven’t won the war ? we might as well be another Grineer grunt then . so because of how noticeable you are to all the NPC’s in the game , i imagine there’s only a few of us at most , with accolades that precedes our reputations . 💭
@juniornxumalo3225 it wouldn't make us look super weak tbh. The grinner, corpus, and infested are borderline endless at this point. The grinner can endlessly grow new soldiers, the corpus are primarily robots, and the infestation is...a zombie faction.
The Tenno who helped defeat Erra showed there was at least 6. The new war we are directly told all kids except Drifter were rescued. The Zariman being a giant colony ship with a sizeable amount of classrooms suggests minimum 4 digits of kids, most likely 5. But it's a video game after all, there were enough kids for there to be 1 per player.
well, this probably isn’t a good thing for the people living in warframe land
Definitely 🤕
Another great video warframe is going to be lit this year thank you
💪
amazing video mate!
I appreciate you!!
Thank you for these videos
My pleasure 🙏
Considering i just unlocked the zariman recently this helps me alot im a switch user which i know switch has bad connection but im to poor for other consoles or pc but i have fun with my friends im still learning alot lore wise and this channel is helping me.
Thank you for sharing a bit of your story with me! I'm glad I could help! 🙏
@@PenOfEvil I'm like brand new i speed ran the game which was a mistake as now I've hit a stone wall and struggle against level 50-100 enemies I'm only 200 logins old in warframe lol
To me its more like the man in the wall keeps you well "alive"or something since he mentions a deal with in whisper.
Like its
I can keep you alive no matter what, but i just need a small favour from you in return
Maybe.
13:05
All of the Void's creations must find a light
remember when we met wally? We handed him our globelight and said "looks like you lost your light, here you can have mine."
"Thanks kiddo, I think I will"
🤔
@@PenOfEvil he even said it with the spooky void voice
“Borderline Magical Abilities”
Ha!
Stomps on the ground and stops time.
Straight to Lua with you! What a great channel! Swuahz du la surah!
🙏
We are just sims trying to understand the programmer.
Thanks for handling the broom pal, but I'm not sure how to start with the resulting mess😅
Pretty good understanding and collecting for this big puzzle called warframe, I think you just started me back to the game 😂
I'm glad, my head hurts every time I get into Warframe lore. 😂
"Borderline Magical Abilities"
*Runs around gayly in a trail of frictionless fire*
"Borderline magical abilities..." *Laughs and slaps you with snakes.*
🤣
Awesome 5D cosmic horror god interacting with the 3d plane, looking forward to a potential man in the wall raid.
If that were a raid it’d have to include railjack and archwing sections of the boss fight and crazy ass platforming challenges for frames while fighting. That actually sounds amazing.
I hope not. The man in the wall is a literary device not a final boss and the best parts of him are the parts at don't and can't know. The more we know about the man in the wall the worse Warframes story gets.
@@actellimQT Ok we can work with this, Wally sends an Avatar from his 5D plan to 3D and it's a raid that explains the former.
@@aaronball4700nah bruh. No platforming.
"borderline magical abilites"
Vauban be like : "I guess science is magical"
you know this kind of explain how the tenno have powers ...i dont think the tenno have a physical body like ordinary humans but something like a ghost just with extra things ...and i think the drifter is truly physical hence the lack of void powers but maybe was kept safe in the void but coming to contact with the tenno self they can now link hence switch places ..my random thoughts i think i m on to something
Maybe, there are a few holes in my theory but it's truly difficult to try and fill them all.
@@PenOfEvil no the tennos powers are conscious transference and void manipulation within matter or mental scope. tenno can perform continuity on demand, on willing or empty vessels. such as warframes. they have a physical body, but to say they are restricted to it is the stretch. theres some speculative stuff but it makes sense when you piece things together. we need warframes because we cant handle the strain of our powers without a conduit or catalyst. i love these lore vids keep it up!
I dont think the Drifter part is entirely correct for one reason: the Sirocco. It runs on Void energy and since the Drifter can use it outside the Void it has to be getting its energy from somewhere or rather someone.
The Drifter did say, its not that they don't have "Void fury" it's more like they havent gotten it yet. Which I think means that unlike little Tenno who spent many years honing their Void powers, the Drifter spent arguably longer either suppressing them or channelling them into Duviri.
@@Hellothere-ss4jqthe drifter didnt know about void stuff void stuff is basically matter it exists everywhere. So it can fuel everything.
Bro just described wally as God
@@alexsava4681 that might be accurate lmao
This is a very good video. You remind me of DsIEGE a bit.
Thank you!! I am humbled. 🙏
I never really connected the "it's heralds are stars it's felled" line with It appearing as your operator, but now I'm really wondering about that
Poetry is art and information :)
And just like that, WE END AS WE BEGAN
NAGEB EW SA DNE EW!
this could be also kinda how is the real life.Maybe thats why we have deja vous(memories from others you),and maybe,thats what anti matter is(man in the wall).Void=space and so on,so forth.
Amazing idea!
Least schizo Warframe story bit:
Thank you!🙏
It was the prime frames I remember being a kid and seeing when Oberon came out and i really got into it after d1 ended
The backstory to Exalted might provide an interesting way of viewing the Indifference, as if you're correct it would make the Man In The Wall either a Primordial-equivalent or one of the big Fae overminds.
I leave researching that whacky funhouse mirror unreality to you, though.
Epic video!
Thank you!
The story of the Zariman 10-0 is basically a Warframe twist on The Warp from Warhammer. I always viewed the Warframe dimension known as The Void as just the Warframe version of Space Hell.
It definitely is the warp in a way, though the warp is a lot more malevolent in my opinion
@PenOfEvil The Warp isn't inherently malevolent. It was changed to the state it's currently in due to the War in Heaven, iirc.
@@chrisdufresne9359 Hm in that case I agree, I haven't sharpened my Warhammer knowledge enough to fully understand it. So you may know better than me.
@@PenOfEvil I'd recommend watching Adeptus Ridiculous
Some of me died. But a couple of me made it through
Sort of.
“My goal is to hand you the broom” hahahahahah
Now SWEEP! 😂 Thank you for watching!!!
Does this broom have an alternate firing mode?
Loved this, and the attention to details in the timeline of the Zariman events is both sauce and quality.
No alt fire but incarnon mode coming soon🫡
i think you need to find the zariman tablets around duviri where the man in the wall (mores specifically the conceptual embodiment of the man in the wall created by albreacht when he visted duviri) that explains undefined lore to the player with pointed questions and rewritten options.
resources were not an issue in any way.
I don't understand what you mean. What resources? Albrecht shouldn't have been able to go to duviri in our timeline at least. The person manipulating the tablets is just Tmitw.
"Magical abilities"
*Spawns a fuking TURRET of mas destruction*
Technically thats technology 😂
TO BE FAIR, all of the warframe concepts can be explained in scifi. And also the fact that its the future.
Basketball?
Isn't it more like that game with the slings? Heck the lunaro slings even look like the one my friend had.
I don't remember what it was called but they used soft plastic balls and wore basically rugby equipment.
I know what you're talking about! But basketball was just a lot easier to explain and far more known. 😂
Lacrosse?
waffle ball
@@williamemami3507 kinda but like with these scoop like things like the ones they use in Jai Alai.
And the goal is way smaller, there's also no goal keeper and the players full tackle each other if needed.
The field also doesn't really have a set size since the goal thingy is portable.
It seems to have disappeared but I remember a lot of people playing it when I was a kid.
I am very impressed
The next time you'll be amazed 🫡
@@PenOfEvil I loved your explanation I know a plot point will be that your not nothing without the man in the wall because the you that didn't get saved never made the deal
What I've seen after playing new war, the YOU who was brought back was not the original you, you died by the hands of balas, and the drifter escaped the duviri for some other reason, and somehow pulled a different you to take over your place after your death
That's a video in itself lol
"Drifter escaped the duviri for some other reason."
We are directly told that it was a childrens story book made manifest by conceptual embodiment. Originally meant as something while the kids waited. The problem happened when a reset happened and the Drifter legitimately forgot they were in a story book. They were then trapped in the story book world until Natah/Lotus hand came down and helped break the Drifter free from the cycle.
It's why the end of the quest is Drifter sitting on the throne and reinstalling Dominous Thrax as the king, in the process reviving Teshin. Now they know it's a story book it can go back to functioning how it was designed.
As for "the original you" that ceased to be 1000 years before the new war. A decision was made, you were rescued or you were not rescued. The game directly tells us the split was being rescued or not.
That decision with 2 outcomes meant the Operator was assigned one and the Drifter was assigned the other. Same person, 2 individuals. Inside the void they can exist together, outside the void they can only exist in their original timeline. It's why only one can exist at any point in time, the assigned outcome was changed. Both Op and Drift were rescued, the main difference is time and what happened between the first rescue and the rescue 1000 years later.
Ballas saying "you can't kill the devil" is more literal than most people realise. We're referred to as angel/demon/some form of light by all who know of the Tenno. While there is a physical body, any fatal damage is made null and we are restored by void magic. Ballas did banish the Operator, the Drifter helped out (most likely with some help from Man in the wall) and eventually the Operator was unbanished and the Drifters timeline was changed.
No wonder why we killed the orokin
😂
The Man In The Wall specifically says that he'll save ' All of them' but he leaves the Drifter in the Zariman because 'all of them' didnt include the Drifter. So, multiple versions of the Operator made the deal. This is reinforced by the animation when the deal is made. Multiple versions of the Operator appear to be making the same deal. Man In The Wall is sadistic, so he could've left one child in the Zariman Ten Zero to see what happened. What happened was Duviri.
If you remember the Umbra Quest, the Operator has a specific animation if Umbra kills them. They close their eyes when they're killed, pass through the Void, and open them to being alive once more. It's not a go back to the past objective restart. It's a restart from the moment they originally died.
This isnt awakening in a new world because this is the exact same world. You're the specific you in your individualized world.
The Zariman in game has different possibilities.
The Holdfast dialogue explains that the children murdered the adults after gaining Void abilities. There's no comment on the children reviving like the Holdfasts, so the original children could have been saved and then the ship sent back into the Void as a method of dispoal. After being sent into the Void, the Zariman went from normal reality into Wallys reality. He could then create the Holdfasts because the ship was in his 'posession'.
The Ember Prime lore says that children should've never been on the ship. Other lore describes a ruinied Zariman and a perfect conditon Zariman. So, the Orokin either made a decoy or the Void was influencing the ship.
In any case, we don't know whose specific Zariman it is.
Indeed this Zariman possibly isn't the original. 🤔
"Reality is a facet of a great block, it is *relative*, and we can change the frame." I don't think us as the player can anymore, not after the new war. I think all of the facets were wiped out but 2, which merged into 1 after the new war.
Meaning we don't exist in the multiverse anymore, only 1 version of the universe, the one where we made the deal. All other versions of us in the multiverse are dead, so if we as the player die, we truly die, nothing in the multiverse can revive us.
Gameplay doesn't match that, tenno still can't die, probs cuz Wally needs us still or we started exerting our own authority over void we don't fully know, "you can't kill a tenno devil, but you can send it back to hell"
Also externalism, shitty thing to just throw out there, but there will always be multiverse shenanigans in this now
Yes I believe this is true and i believe this is part of why loid says that the next thing we are doing is going back in time and fixing our broken timeline. It's not just Albrecht's mistakes, it's our own too.
Technically yes and no, I don't believe we can die. At least by normal means.
Wait, how does this work. How did we die and yet there's many sources saying when the zariman first appeared by Saturn after the incident they found us alive. How does it work that we died?
@@S1l3ntL0v3r A simple way to put it the tenno are effectively immortal through eternalism. They can die but are instantly replaced by another copy as all their different timelines are folded into one, Kinda it gets really convoluted if you think about it too much.
Did the deal with the man in the wall just destroy all but two versions of the operator, or did it destroy all but two versions of reality, with each operator representing their entire timeline?
Then the circumstances are even worse🫢
I think this is a very good video. I'd like to suggest that you change the title and thumbnail to avoid spoilers for people who get this video in their "recommended" feed, since it won't just be people who have finished the Warframe story quests.
Just to point it out SPOILER ALERT;
Everyone on the Zariman doesn't actually die canonically this is just a theory and should be treated as such. There are actually spoilers in the video but other than that the thumbnail is in fact NOT a spoiler.
@PenOfEvil Doesn't Archimedean or however her name is spelled of the Steadfasts say that they have all already died? She mentioned specifically that they're already dead but still alive somehow and she grew distressed then changed the subject.
The void is the big BANG!!!
I saw the big bang....
Curiousity is interest.
Not long ago i completed the new war quest and i have a theory in quest we shown the moment of jump and lesson in class about void where they have a theory that void connects present and future as we can see in operator and and his older version my theory is that because children still have future they didn't go mad and adults went mad because they are dead in the future(age)
I love the lore of this game so much
I love the lore most games.
@@PenOfEvil i think the main draw of Warframe from a lore standpoint is the endless ocean of concepts and ideas that get infinitely darker the longer you think about them
I wish I could understand more the lore is great but it's so hard to grasp it all.
If this theory is true it might actually prove my theory which is that the VOID is not the man in the wall domain but the domain of multiple other god like biengs,which would explain why he made a deal with the Tenno,with us he can interact with are world most likely because if he did it himself he would destroy it,but also we could give him power,like eldrich god like,by us becoming more powerfull he becomes more power so he could rule more of the void....yeah I know that sounds like 40k type shit,but it could by and it would by cool
Another 40k lover I see.
"borderline magical abilities" LMAO *takes off my trench coat and turns it into a dragon*
Chroma!!
2:00 where can I find this recording?
Log 1 Zariman teaser on Warframe's channel
void is just chaos, it literally has same features, warframe is probably warhammer40k in 10k
Warhammer lore is spectacular !
I haven't died, I mained Nezha and Revenant. xd
😂
Yeah i think everyone needs to look up what omnipotetent means.
Omnipotent* thank you for watching!
Plot twist you are the man in the wall
As someone relatively new to the story that was one of my first assumptions. Maybe like a ground zero original you that somehow either manifested the void or entered at some point and now exists outside of reality as we know it.
(I know you were probably joking but it shouldn't be outside the realm of possibility)
Not far from the truth
Hold on.....is Dr E voiced by mirages VA??