Controversial Questions to Prof.Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri (MH Podcast #6)

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  • Here Prof.Jonathan Brown, Dr. Shadee Masri and I discuss certain issues that people may have against what they may have written/said. They clarify and give context to their views.
    Issues range from LGBTQ, Yaqeen institute, statements regarding the Prophet (s.a.w) etc.
    Twitter: mohammed_hijab?s=20
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    0:00 Introductions
    2:00 LGBT Topic Introduction
    4:15 LGBT Discussion at AMJA in 2015
    11:00 Explanation of his “RACCIO Framework”
    21:00 We shouldn’t support others just because they can help Muslims (no quid pro quo)
    26:00 Discussion on applicability of “maslaha” on this topic
    32:00 Prophetic model is neither a right model or a left model
    41:00 Soft-Liberalism/(Ottoman) Millet system thought experiment
    1:01:10 Advice on dealing with toxic social media environment
    1:07:20 About Dr. Brown’s Salvation Article
    1:12:20 Regarding attitude towards those who insult the Prophet (s)
    1:19:50 MH suggestions to JB to avoid shubha
    1:28:40 Regarding Single Toilets debate
    1:37:00 Advice to fight doubts
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  • @MuhammadHamza-ou6zq
    @MuhammadHamza-ou6zq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    I hope you can get both Daniel Haqiqatjou and Jonathan Brown together and regulate the conversation

  • @One-rr8um
    @One-rr8um 4 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    I hope this type of effort of yours will bring people in the ummah closer

  • @336muslim
    @336muslim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Am I the only one who got distracted a little bit realizing Dr Shadee looks like a young Shaykh Hamza Yusuf...

  • @MohOz
    @MohOz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    Mashaa'Allah Brother Hijab gave no Gap.. I think Prof brown opinion is still wrong.. we can't support gay right to get married and should equivocally make our matter clear.. we don't support gays in any shape or form. End of discussion. Not talking a stand itself is a weaker position. Allah is with us. We don't need to be afraid or shy about it.

  • @raihanfahim1558
    @raihanfahim1558 4 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    I'm very glad brother Hijab addressed everything directly and wasnt afraid to have an awkward conversation because its really helped clarify everyones stances

  • @KickingArts
    @KickingArts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Hello Mr. Hijab!
    English is not my native tongue so bear that in mind please 🙏.
    I have been following you for quite sometime and I admire your work, even though I am not a religious person.
    I appreciate these podcasts you are doing and I find them very helpful.
    I do however have a question to you and the muslim community regarding the rise of depression and anxiety amongst the youth.
    What is your take on it and do your believe that the "rise of liberalism" has something to do with it?
    I am a social worker and I have seen an increase in depression and anxiety these last couple of year's and I believe it comes from the lack of religious/theological influence in people's life.
    I even think that the rise of more liberal "values" have caused people to question the meaning in life due to this things, because it does not give people absolute directions just like the Qur'an or a other sacred text would do.
    Just as the famous Danish philosopher Søren Kierkegaard said in his in his book, The concept of anxiety: " Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom."
    I know that you are a busy person and I understand that you might not be able to answer this question but it would be highly appreciated if you could ,since I work with immigrants from a Islamic background.
    If anyone else has anything to write, please do so since it would be highly appreciated.
    However if you are not able to answer this question, this topic might be relevant for a future podcast.
    Greeting from Sweden😁
    Have a blessed day everyone.

  • @MiroMayne
    @MiroMayne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    You guys actually arranged this!!!

  • @fathinishmammazumdar9865
    @fathinishmammazumdar9865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I am loving these podcasts

  • @islamrewards2860
    @islamrewards2860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Wow incredible guests - Great to see Mohammed Hijab reaching out.

  • @warsandempires8208
    @warsandempires8208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Now lets have jonathan brown and daniel haqiqatjou on the same podcast

  • @hannumahonen4735
    @hannumahonen4735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This channel is getting better and better. Keep up the good work Mr. Hijab.

  • @presleymaddox
    @presleymaddox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Lol i cant believe you were able to get Jon Brown on right after Daniel. Mashallah this is AMAZING. I myself was very curious about many of Dr. Brown articles from Yaqeen and am glad you were able to bring him on.

  • @akaneboys389
    @akaneboys389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for all ur work for the ummah ;ur muslim brother from «france».

  • @sethlowe7490
    @sethlowe7490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Subhan'Allah May Allah bless you Brother Muhammad for modeling dialogue, bringing Muslims together, and lengthening our attention spans!

  • @user-gn4qy6le9t
    @user-gn4qy6le9t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Jasak Allahu Khair brother! In these times of refutation and hate it's very refreshing that there are actually brothers like you, who are trying to understand the other side and bringing the Ummah together InShaaAllah! Even if we don't always agree with each other, it's just beautiful when we can disagree in a 'beautiful' way. Sometimes it's better to actually ask the person, rather then refuting them directly. And maybe we can be guided by Allah, through each other.
    May Allah bless your work.
    Salaam from Germany 🌸

  • @TravelingPhilosopher
    @TravelingPhilosopher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This conversation was amazing! Masha Allah

  • @Life-bt9yo
    @Life-bt9yo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yesss finalllyyyyyy

  • @comb528491
    @comb528491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    MashaAllah Ust Mohammed Hijab is very nuanced and balanced, he responded to the Daniel Haqiqatjou lecture by asking Dr. Brown to speak

  • @alhreish
    @alhreish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was very necessary

  • @muqtasidtashfin2087
    @muqtasidtashfin2087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    we need a 10 hour season finale with all the guests of the different episodes together

  • @reshadj1182
    @reshadj1182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This podcast is great

  • @hasancasperlabuschagne7579
    @hasancasperlabuschagne7579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    To say the least, it was honorable of MH to allow Dr. Brown and Shaikh Shadee on his show to clarify their own positions and try to defend their points.

  • @MrBoogiePope
    @MrBoogiePope 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I think it's Shadee "Elmasry" (=/= Masri).

  • @arthurjohnson3250
    @arthurjohnson3250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    an episode with farid would be very nice

  • @munsoorrawoot7776
    @munsoorrawoot7776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    This podcast is very good, very progressive.. We need to have this conversation because our children is at risk being brain washed with their identity and believes..

  • @ideasthatmakesense
    @ideasthatmakesense 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Excellent discussion displaying how important it is for academics to be more explicit. You can't just try to blame it on the literacy of muslims, you should be clear knowing the general public is not as literate as you.

  • @sulemanmalik8228
    @sulemanmalik8228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I clicked as quickly as I could lol.

  • @jahangirnawab1534
    @jahangirnawab1534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Prof brown carried a certain sincerity and aura around him in this podcast that was refreshing, a man as learned as him happily taking on constructive feedback, muslims please let us not always bash, first sincerely advise and then take it from there etc.. this is very rare in this day and age

  • @bez1196
    @bez1196 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent discussion.

  • @ruthtruthinireland
    @ruthtruthinireland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Prof Jonathan Brown.... you da man! I like the way this discussion has been carried out, very respectful of each other and not billigerent. Sometimes I watch "discussions" and I end up feeling so anxious I haven't been able to learn anything! This is the way to address difficult topics. Well done all of you

  • @zayn6725
    @zayn6725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow you pulled out the big guns here

  • @umar3388
    @umar3388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was wondering when a Jonathan brown Collab would happen 😌

  • @somo1757
    @somo1757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Unprecedented, novel social situation!? I would have liked to see this claim challenged more assertively. The story of Lut, AH, is as clear and relevant of a precedent as you could ask for.

    • @abrar859
      @abrar859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Exactly, I can't understand why this issue is approached so dismissively. It's caused so much damage to the deen of young Muslims in the west and yet the imams and scholars are mostly focused on combating white supremacy. Fact is young Muslims aren't apostatizing for white supremacy, they're doing so because Islam isn't 'feminist' or supports LGBT rights.

  • @Phiaz23
    @Phiaz23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This was a great discussion with two of the more prolific thinkers of our time mA

  • @talhatariqyuluqatdis
    @talhatariqyuluqatdis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    id like to see more with Prof Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee Masri

  • @Frankenshein
    @Frankenshein 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This clarified alot!

  • @seenoevil6320
    @seenoevil6320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    dr brown said this lgbt+ thing is unprecedented in history(more or less, I'm paraphrasing), so as a muslim why can't I agree with the government's definition of marriage being between a man and a women. can someone who agrees with dr brown's position(which is we shouldn't let the government define marriage for us) on this issue chime in, I would love a discussion on this. if i've misunderstood or misinterpreted what he said, please let me know, may Allah have mercy on us and forgive us

  • @Norisknoreward24
    @Norisknoreward24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ma Sha Allah you got Shaykh Shadee Elmasry on! He has a great talk on Tasawwuf

  • @immasavagebro2845
    @immasavagebro2845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Does anybody want to translate 1:29:47? Or should we just move on pretending nothing happened...

  • @Titanassaurus
    @Titanassaurus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job habibi

  • @FitraHomestead
    @FitraHomestead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Prof. Brown seems to have a knack for controversy even the toilet claim was a bit out there. Why not just say make toilets like disabled toilets like hijab said that would be the end of it. Why say make toilets like those that transgenders want, surely even if the intention is clean that just adds controversy. I also do not agree with the statement of supporting gay marriages no matter how it is explained. Either don't have an opinion on the issue and remain silent or speak against it. I didn't really understand his explanation on that part.
    Other than that very good podcast, these podcasts are very productive and are a means for countering the fitnah that has been spreading around lately, as it gives everyone a chance to speak publicly.

  • @Diamondraw4Real
    @Diamondraw4Real 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Muslims who marry in a civil court still their marriage is fine as far as Islam is concerned. Then they just have to do a second contract if they decide to go to a Muslim society bc the civil marriage is recognized but they also want the Sharia marriage documents even if done 5 minutes after you arrive in the country. So if your own govt won't allow shariah marriage openly just do it quietly at home and do the civil marriage too. Or maybe the civil marriage alone is enuff according to the Sharia
    Allahu A'alam

  • @hasinabrar3263
    @hasinabrar3263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Bring denial haqiqatjou again in sha allah.

  • @sasuke176
    @sasuke176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh maaaan !

  • @aqibgazisports3046
    @aqibgazisports3046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    @ 1:19:44 Mohammed Hijab puts forth great recommendations as to how these types of political matters should be addressed.

  • @amnamalik3154
    @amnamalik3154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    May Allah bless you all ameen

  • @jperez1233
    @jperez1233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can someone translate the joke at the end?

  • @faranahmad3199
    @faranahmad3199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Can you please host Sh. Hamza Yusuf about his political views?

  • @arkaazizul6673
    @arkaazizul6673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can someone explain me what is soft liberalism??

  • @yusufnasiru1709
    @yusufnasiru1709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mashallah brother hijab may Allah reward u for your efforts. This is how we should disagree or clear matters up instead of refuting

  • @ruthtruthinireland
    @ruthtruthinireland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    .... at 1:11:10...... I laughed out loud!! not "lol" but belly ache laughter! Alhamdulillah 🤣

  • @ummnutella3135
    @ummnutella3135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Brother Mohammed you really do look like an Lion 🦁

  • @abduahmed4518
    @abduahmed4518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Schools of At-Tabari, Al-Zahiri and even Imam Bukhari rejected Qiyas (Religious Analogy). Scholars like Ibn Hazm refuted Qiyas in various texts.

  • @oceanflyer7078
    @oceanflyer7078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Both Prof Brown and Dr Masri are blessings for the Ummah. I can't believe I learn so much from both of them for the last few years. May Allah Taala protect, preserve and maintain both of them.

  • @homefront2313
    @homefront2313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    We need time stamps

  • @sabar2453
    @sabar2453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dr Shadee El Masry ❤

  • @talhatariqyuluqatdis
    @talhatariqyuluqatdis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    love Jonathan Brown fam, genius guy

  • @bbkk6513
    @bbkk6513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hijab the volume on every podcast is very low even on earphones

  • @samsungkartit
    @samsungkartit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ma sha Allah

  • @sm-bu9dp
    @sm-bu9dp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Please invite Mufti Mohammed Ibn Munir next!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @muneebqazi3474
    @muneebqazi3474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Professor Jonathan A C Brown is a gem of a person. Allah has blessed the Ummah of Muhammad S.A.W residing in the west by raising scholars like him amongst them.

  • @abdullah-al-noman5070
    @abdullah-al-noman5070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    22:12

  • @Dawahdude0
    @Dawahdude0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MashaAllah great discussion Br. Mohammad Hijab May Allah swt increase you in knowledge and wisdom Ameen. Brother have you heard about Javed Ahmed Ghamidi & Dr. Shazad Please bring them on your show

  • @user-xu2pd2sn9r
    @user-xu2pd2sn9r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    أب المقاتل للفنون القتالية المختلطة نور محمدوف المسلم مات يوم الجمعة
    قدموا له العزاء😭😭😭

  • @dontreadmyprofilepicture9071
    @dontreadmyprofilepicture9071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    incredible video! Made me laugh xD !

  • @canhaktan9674
    @canhaktan9674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    These two Doctors looked very uncomfortable during this podcast

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow6618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    forget the Muslim on the ground, Dr Brown's stance is confusing himself.

  • @alishow-by7fp
    @alishow-by7fp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I honestly enjoy this discussion, and I especially agree with Dr. jonathan about everything. However, I have a question, and I hope I can get it answered, in pre islamic era, it was ok for a slave owner to basically execute his slaves if he'd been undisciplined. there would not have been a problem or an accountability regarding to the slave owner in terms of the law, but in islam, was it ok to do so? considring that the slave is your property.

  • @murtu01
    @murtu01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    😍😍😍😍😍😍 my favvvs

  • @noorhassan4361
    @noorhassan4361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Get shaykh Asrar Rashid on please

  • @rj-oz3pq
    @rj-oz3pq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    أريد التواصل مع محمد حجاب ضروري بارك الله فيكم كيف أستطيع

  • @theanimeart
    @theanimeart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mohd hijab should invite shaykh asrar rashid

  • @taherramzan4978
    @taherramzan4978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Subhan'Allah.

  • @aladdin8623
    @aladdin8623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Sorry but both Shadee elMasri and Jonathan Brown lost much credibility with their attacks on Shaykh Hamza Yusuf. Also they showed a big lack of knowledge in Fiqh when talking about that subject. Both their arguments were ill and they did not mention the strong prevalence of sunni opinion. Either they did this on purpose or they didn't know the overall Hukm about that. It is a shame how to adress such difficult subjects in public. As if we don't got enough problems with public acceptance etc. I think both should apoligize to the Shaykh.

  • @ahwehbe6070
    @ahwehbe6070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    لا إله إلا الله

  • @appearances9250
    @appearances9250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Invite Sheikh Asrar Rashid

  • @soufyan454
    @soufyan454 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    salam alaikum, insha'Allah talk about those who believe in Qiraat bil maana, that only the meanings of the Qur'an are preserved...

  • @cali5224
    @cali5224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s good to see a brother wearing a hijab 🧕

  • @justbeardiful
    @justbeardiful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Dr Jonathan Brown seems really off and defensive. Didn't hear any valid argument from him regarding supporting LBTQ. It's contradictions all through the conversation

  • @7upninja723
    @7upninja723 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Jonathan brown jzk for this video I had misconception about yourself based on internet comments I apologize.

  • @xenomorphisisdilage472
    @xenomorphisisdilage472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Why did Jonathan AC Brown shave his beard?

  • @ihsanmedia3713
    @ihsanmedia3713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quran recitations or short remiders
    👈

  • @ummahisonebody452
    @ummahisonebody452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First

  • @letsgofor100likes6
    @letsgofor100likes6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First Comment ❤️

  • @tahmidarham8066
    @tahmidarham8066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First here.

  • @HCAli7861.-
    @HCAli7861.- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Asrar Rashid

  • @abdelmanemwady238
    @abdelmanemwady238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ترجمه من فضلك يا شيخنا

  • @justsayok5137
    @justsayok5137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You are Finished!!

  • @Fahad-gf1wx
    @Fahad-gf1wx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Call MUFTI ABU LAYTH 😂

  • @maldinimaha818
    @maldinimaha818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Jonathan Brown is liar who advocates for LGBT rights and who once said that he supports the right of people to insult the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم as that maximizes their happiness!

  • @srnp0007
    @srnp0007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *I Request All Muslim Brothers & Sisters To Make Dua For Br. Hijab.*
    *He is Unable to Face A Hindu (Ex-Muslim).*
    *For Months He is Hiding His Face*