not gonna lie every time ive seen an interview with lupe he said some ish im just like what? it seem like any rapper with a similar message to him he dont like.
@@bodeharmanda1st572 i forgot about that. i remember like maybe longer than 10 years ago. he did an interview on world star and said ras kass is trash...what? ok i could understand if u dont like em but trash is crazy
I love both (though I listen to Kendrick more bc he’s MY preference, not on some universal metrics), but I think it seems like he does this bc he doesn’t understand the criteria as to why “Kendrick gets a pass” and wants to call the masses bluff, when Lupe has sooooo many styles and I believe he feels he stays truer to the metrics. I hate the music industry sooooooooo much, because there’s really room for so many greats, but manmade scarcity drives ppl to behave like this.
It's because Kendrick doesn't speak to the masses like they're stupid. Lupe is into Lupe so much he's forgotten that most of his fans aren't his Ivy League coworkers and nobody's interested in constant debate. Every discussion I hear him having is him trying to make someone else feel stupid.
Respect to Thought Crimez for trying to debate Lupe. Bro was to in his feelings and kept cutting them off then got in his feelings and kicked them off the live. That’s mad emotional behavior can’t respect people like that smh
They was being goofy af. You would have thought they they were the superstar rapper the way they was acting. They wouldn’t even introduce themselves like we should have already known who they were. Never heard of them in my life. Lupe said get to the point and they still saying nothing. Deserved to get kicked
Nobody should trust your opinion, because you don't know the difference between "too" and "to" lmao That's some basic grammar, so I know your brain lacks complexity.
I don't understand why lupe is jealous of Kendrick, when lupe had the torch he ran from it and wanted to go underground!! He stopped doing interviews and somebody came and took his spot
@JK-wp4nl Lupe is smarter than all the low IQ hip hop fans who are glazing Kendrick for the wrong reasons and getting too infatuated with drama and the lives of strangers. A lot of weirdos.
Lupe just lost a highly publicized online debate - replay thoughts crimez question and Lupe doesn't address anything directly, also his pompous attitude towards their public notoriety expounded his immaturity from the beginning. As Thought Crimez said Lupe Fiasco himself .. "CHEATING THE PUBLIC OUT OF A CONVERSATION.." Nothing more to be said Lupe needs to battle Kendrick or STFU because right now, he's looking BIG TIME JEALOUS-IM GLAD THE FEMALE WAS THERE TO DELINEATE THE ENERGY, shout to thought crimez for keeping it real ‼️👀
I understand Lupe. And I don't want to come off as pompous either but when you're more intelligent then people often times they spin words and narratives that you neither said or meant. It's essential when debating to flesh those very things out and thats why Joe was meant to be the mediator.
@@juliusmaben3807 Lot of people, like yourself, said the same about Drake before Kendrick cleaned his battle clock. Now here you are talking calling ppl pathetic. That’s not a little sick on your part? That’s rhetorical. Because it is sick. Consider getting off the 🛜 for a while
@jamesmcclaren9759 a lot of people NOT including myself said Kendrick didn't want it with drake. I am a drake fan admittedly but a rap fan first. I am on record many times saying I didn't want drake to go at Kendrick cause I didn't see him coming out with a W. Drake and Lupe are 2 ENTIRELY different tier of rapper. And I absolutely stand on what I said and Kendrick wanting no parts of him. Just like he tucked tail and ran when SLR2 came out. He wants no parts of rappers that can actually go bar for bar with him.
I’m just glad to hear somebody not letting Lupe Fiasco walk on them in the interview, he likes to cut people off and get them frustrated, change the subject, and the rail peoples points where they forget where they were coming from in the first place. Whoopie fiasco is an all-time grade as far as his contribution to hip-hop lyrically . But he has some lessons to learn about being humble about something such a simple as losing an argument., not having the biggest opinion in the room. For these reasons alone, I think he would lose a battle with Kendrick Kendrick Lamar . Kendrick is more patient deviously calculated than he is..
Lupe is trying to use Drake to bait Kendrick and it’s clear🤦🏾♂️ that’s why you’ll never hear a flat out diss record towards Kendrick because he knows that if Dot doesn’t respond to it then it’ll just make him look desperate and justify the “hating on Kendrick” narrative. The game tried the same thing with Rick Ross- Ross ignored it and after 1 day no one cared anymore because in todays rap culture the Game is irrelevant just like Lupe 🤷🏾♂️ . Lupe isn’t as clever as he tries to portray himself to be- he’s looking real lame out here right now
You have to watch ThoughtCrimes stream to get the full context. He called them out, and they came on the show, and he was being mad disrespectful because he's a salty hater.😂 Lupe is going out sad.
No you are wrong here Lupe wanted to attack one argument we didn’t need context for anything else which they kept trying to provide but it wasn’t needed for this argument, he wanted to attack their Drake is not a mc argument but these guys kept doing other shit luckily they did leave, bc Lupe picked their argument apart badly I mean it was bad they would’ve been speechless, he tried multiple times to get them back in there but they refused to join, either way they are lucky they didn’t come back ngl Lupe picked apart that “ghostwriter” shit, he said one of the people who created and started mc-ing didn’t write his verse on rappers delight does that mean he isn’t a mc? He went into details on it too Which was their original claim (which honestly doesn’t make any sense and it’s pure ignorance)
@@ghostmkc4045 naw you just disagree with someone who doesn’t talk bad about Drake that’s all it is, regardless of all of the forced hate Drake will prevail like it or not Btw Lupe is a professor and he teaches hip hop professionally, so no random fan on the internet would be more knowledgeable on the topic than him, he literally studied hip hop, he’s a student of the game (rapper) and teaches it (professionally) Stop watching little clips and actually listen to what he is saying then you could make that decision
@@quheyall got to get some testosterone this estrogen ish is getting out of control rappers delight was several guys in the group if 1 didn't write so what the best guys that rhymed at the time wrote they own ish MCs are lyrical and they write for themselves KRS rahkim big daddy Kane the top guys are always the guys who write for themselves and they talk that the best ish because it's competition yall can't change things to cater to what your feelings say Lupe is a clout chaser who never made it big so he's trying to ride a wave to become relevant he has a album that came out in 2008 it took till 2022 for that album to make it to platinum status 1 Grammy with 9 albums bruh is mid
Why are these rap guys so emotionally unstable. No wonder hip hop is dying on their watch, all this for attention & validation because you don’t have the confídence to openly diss Kendrick and call him out. Put out. 6 min diss of Kendrick and be done
How you start this trying to make these people introduce themselves cause “you don’t know who they are” than end talking about “I heard what yall said on TH-cam
I dont know who they are. Lupe Fiasco is the greatest rapper of all time. I know who he is. I know his body of work. I know he spits BARS and he's smart as fuck and does shit other people can't do. His experience and knowledge of his craft means something. Lupe can rap. Kendrick cant. Lupe's analysis holds weight. There's doesn't. We don't even know who they are. They're nobodies.
@@POUNDAGEOLDinspirednope. The whole convo started bc he was in the comment section of their live stream. Then ran when they tried to ask him a question.
Lupe needs to come out with it and say he wanna battle Kendrick 😤 🙄 that's all it is he thinks he's his equal stop the showboating and get in the booth
I was a big Lupe fan back in the day but right now he can't fuck with Kendrick at all Lupe style is Jay-Z rhyme pattern mixed with Nas and a lil Eminem Kendrick already know what Lupe gone rap like so it's a easy battle! Lupe is not a battle mc his style is more deeper
@@t.p.rbeats I don't understand how this entire comment section is so delusional to believe that Lupe, who packed Royce up with a freestyle, "is not a battle MC" you haven't been keeping up with his track record in the slightest and still got on the hate bandwagon. Only goes to show people aren't interested in facts only optics.
My concern is, why is such an arrogant, biased person, with roots and heritage based in West Africa, but idolizes Japanese culture, teaching Rap/Hip Hop? Is he teaching real rap/hip hop or a version that suits his biases? Is he teaching rap/hip hop or taking revenge on a culture he feels did not fully appreciate him? The community need to get these posers out of positions of stewardship of the culture or at least remind they are just guests. AKKK, Drake, Akon and his brother, Emmanuel Acho, Lupe, Vlad, Adam 22, Tyla, Lucifer Grainge and Junior, Michael Rubin.
@@kcking23 He basically embarrassed and blackballed himself with that Obama sh*t. Another episode of when keeping it real goes wrong. He keeps 🔫 himself in the foot. And then he got sonned by Chief Keef and never recovered. He always throwing little jabs at the wrong people. He dissed Ye. He dissed Kid Cudi and Childish Gambino. This dude is just doing the most
And im sure Lupe tore them up once he kicked them out the chat. That way they cant defend the point they were trying to get at. Aint nobody got time for them games. Thought Crimez have their own platform... Either u like what they say or u dont. Lupe came to THEIR platform, not the other way around. U got everybody who has a platform on "the youtube" and they ALL say Lupe is glazing Drake. And if he like Drake, thats fine. U like who u like BUT... u cannot call Drake a emcee if he dont write. Lupe... Just come out with a diss track directed at Kendrick... NO SNEAK DISSIN.
Do you know what an MC is??? Kendrick is not an MC. Drake is an MC. Have you seen a Drake show?? A Drake interview? That man knows how to control a mic and control a crowd. That's what an MC is. The man on the mic. The master of the ceremonies. The person talking and keeping engaged. That's Drake. He does that better than Kendrick does and that's not even a question or up for debate. Drake has better presence. Better delivery. Kendrick don't know what the fuck he's doing. He can. Barely even rap. He's timid. MCs are not timid. Kendrick is not an MC. Now let's get to the writing. Can you prove that Drake doesn't write? You have zero evidence that he doesn't write. We've literally seen videos for years of him with his writtens on his blackberry and he's rapping his shit off his phone. People that have worked on music with him have SEEN him write down his bars on his phone and then go in the booth and record. He has WRITTEN for countless other artists. So we know Drake writes. You can't prove that he doesn't. We also know that he works with other artists and producers and puts music out that other people contribute to and they get credit. That isn't sneaky. And that doesn't mean he doesn't write. That's just what happens in the music industry at THAT level. If we always got the same Drake bars over 40 beats, he would get stagnant and wouldn't have the longevity he's had. Every major artist that tops the charts has performed music written by other people. That doesnt mean he can't write. It's stupid to think that he should write every hit song he's ever had. You can't hold anyone to that standard. No one else, on their own, has had as many hits as Drake has. You act like someone else has done it so he should be able to do it too. It's not even possible. You guys are so devoid of brain cells it's starting to hurt MY head. I can't even imagine being as dumb as you guys are, it would physically hurt me to be so stupid. Anyone that says Drake doesn't write is a complete idiot. Provide some evidence that he's never written any of his bars. You can say hooks or song concepts. But his verses. His raps. Prove he doesn't write them. You can't.
@@runegeezy stop it... Emcee and MC is not the same. U cannot be a REAL EMCEE with no pen game. I grew on real PEN game. I dont need to go to his concert becayse i dont care enough for his music to be bothered. And im sure its easy to control a crowd of worshippers when u yungins view him as a god. Thats the problem. Stop riding and maybe a real conversation can happen.
@@chenoawilliams767 emcee is not a thing. Master of Ceremonies. MC. That's like saying I don't need to go to am ATM to get money! I go to the ayteeem. You're just DUMB.
@vicknewman9418 nope. Kendrick did what he came to do, which was walk down Drake. He should focus on his album or whatever else and ignore Lupe like he's been doing.
Lupe is a whole goof. These rappers who complain about other rappers and don't rap about it is wild to me. He gotta go on the internet and discredit some random creators who talk their opinions but he's too sensitive to even let them speak about it is just like drake moving like a ho. Just rap about it professor
If you remove Lupe caping, Lupe gaslighting, Lupe contradicting himself, and Lupe playing dumb for a pre determined outcome (aka clown ish) then Lupe hasnt done or said a word in years... he needs to go and see Ye and wake tf up out of this cooky bubble
7 minutes in and these people really love to hear themselves. they don’t want to answer any question and won’t let the conversation start. just interrupting over and over. yeah that’s 7 minutes i’ll never get back edit: make that 24
This conversation didnt even get to start. Lupe kept interrupting. Then the other side kept wanting to complain about interruption and never said they point. That wasa. Waste of time
As a Lupe fan, this hurts. 😢😔 What the hell did Lupe singing Keith Sweat have to do with ANYTHING?!?!? If he wants the battle with Kendrick, just say so! The jealousy and backtracking on Hip-Hop purity is disgusting!
It’s crazy all of us who rock with Lupe are saying the same thing; he’s damn near the illest ever but this behavior towards Kendrick is embarrassing. A slight against K.Dot is a slight against his own quality of work.
I had no clue Lupe was like this. I’m so disappointed. I won’t be listening to his music based on how he treats people. EDIT: Speaking on behalf of all my girlfriends sitting here with me right now, he has lost many potential female fans.
Stop being soft. It’s his opinion. He doesn’t care if you’re disappointed. Move on with your life. Stop putting so much energy into rap. I swear if you put this much energy into your life, you’d be much better place
Lupe lost a fan on this day. Separatinf rhe artist from the art no longer applies to this generation, give reapect where its due but arrogance makes that noll and void. A rapper that cant have a conversation with fans but wants you ta listen to his album is beyond me....
He lost me years ago when he first started hating on kendrick. He's a hating wierdo. His music is subpar standing next to kendricks work. He wishes he could do what kendrick has done. He's become an envious joke. He's v..acci...nated so he knows his life is in the balance. Blood clots fkn the blood flow to his brain rn
@melaninswagg8973 Lupe is so condescending in everything he does. You can literally tell him how his music make you feel and he would tell you that it shouldn't make you feel like that and what it should make you feel like. Understandably, interpersonal feelings and emotions is best shared through art, but for the artist to reject the perceived art being made makes you question the art being made. Food and Liquor 2 brought a whole perspective to me whenever I didn't have 1 in 2012 l, and changed my projection as person even when GKMC was out. Now for it to come full circle with such negative energy is disappointing..
Lupe needs to put down the thesaurus and read the dictionary a little more. He shows on songs and conversations he’s not conscious of the words he uses. He’ll be condescending then double down on it by saying something to show you he was trying to demean you. His music comes off the same way overly wordy but without much meaning on most songs. I’m not saying he’s not great at putting words together that sounds good but I think his use of words can contradict his point. In debating you need to know what your position is and how certain arguments can call fallacy to that. Lupe is ultimately just jealous of Kendrick and doesn’t want to say that, same as Drake.
@@eneokweobianuju9659 man I either read about or watched a video of Lupe years ago and my guy said he wanted to commit suicide after B.O.B and Bruno Mars song blew up cause that was supposed to be his song. I understand his bitterness, cause he is better than a lot of these people and his career was on the incline, however, he needs to let it go forreal.
Thank you!!! I’m like it took Prince like halfway through the convo to even start to get to the point. I could not have conversation with men like that. Like don’t weave in and out of trolling when you feel intimidated or can’t concentrate on a point. I like some of their videos but I don’t know what all this was.
They are avoiding Lupe being direct and trying to stick to a specific criteria they don't want to do that because Kendrick doesn't stand up under scrutiny so they took a page out of Kendrick book and gaslighted the audience to save themselves from them being exposed for glazer of the year🎯💯😆
In this 24 minute conversation. I have learned absolutely nothing about nothing. No points were made, no coherent ideas expressed, and zero value in anything uttered. 😩
Sorry Lupe but you lost that intelectual title they misplaced on you. lol literally sound like a right wing pundit when they are trying to weasel they’re way out a losing debate.
How when lupe was cutting them off mid-sentence? He asked a question and wouldn't let them answer. I like Lu but he was being on some weird type time. Got me looking at him sideways.
It would have taken 10 seconds to say DRAKE DONT WRITE HIS RAPS but no, Thought Crimez and Lupe wanna play games and its just frustrating and embarrassing to watch. GET TO THE FKN POINT. If Lupe interrupts to change the subject IGNORE HIM AND STAY ON THE FKN POINT. This was a lesson in how NOT to debate smfh.
Lmao Kendrick sooooo anti social media that he has other people doing the dirty work for him 😂😂 Lupe doesn’t realize Kendrick the boogeyman, he all stressed out by this bullshit is hilarious 😂
People get so mad when you have an opinion that doesn't agree with theirs.. Lupe can have an opinion it doesn't make him a hater. We ask for artist to not be politically correct and be real, then when they do we criticize them!
@@shoptalkconvo-mak1471I mean it’s funny how for the passed 10 years lupe been throwing shade at Kendrick and yet Kendrick has never mentioned lupe once I believe. So what does that tell you.
Exactly. They Ain't Saying Nothing At All But Acting Like Lupe Cutting Them Off. Nah, Get To The Point Of Why Drake Is Not An MC. They Provided No Facts.
@@thinkfreely6045bro Lupe was being a clown and was cutting them off without letting them even talk, either you're a fan of Lupe or we did not watch the same video. Lupe kept on talking over them every time they was trying to get their point across. This s*** came off weak and immature bro. He can't even conduct himself a man and have a simple conversation, people agree or disagree all the time. People need to know how to talk to people that they don't agree with in debates. We all adults. Except for Lupe clearly. And he end up kicking him off the group chat. Like I said they were trying to debate with Lupe and he was being a clown. Clearly everyone in the comment section besides y'all two can see that. But if that's your hero, God bless you.
This interview is proof that an intelligent rapper can still be one of the least critically thinking humans on the planet
Proof that fans dont know how to react when someone they dont know doesnt react the exact way they want him to. Thought Crimez are clowns.
Lupe tried to be a bully. Thought crimez said not us 😂
I see why Lupe career didn’t pan out 🤦🏽♂️
What do you mean didn't pan out?
I had no idea that Lupe could be so insufferable. Sheesh.
not gonna lie every time ive seen an interview with lupe he said some ish im just like what? it seem like any rapper with a similar message to him he dont like.
I found out Lupe a talented smart Bozo during Covid when he had the podcast with Royce.
I think this is why I stopped being a fan. Low key Lupe is the Amanda Seales of hip hop. A smart dude but he comes off like this snobby elitist 🤦🏾♂️
@@bodeharmanda1st572 i forgot about that. i remember like maybe longer than 10 years ago. he did an interview on world star and said ras kass is trash...what? ok i could understand if u dont like em but trash is crazy
I did. Killed me as a fan when I saw he's like this. Thought he was less about jealousy. He's a superb lyricist
Damn Lupe going out sad...got Chicago looking slow as hell
Lupe just wants attention. Kendrick should ignore him. That would get him even more mad and jealous.
Pretty much. Kendrick already proved that he is not one to mess with.
@@Waluigi-vr4qzkendrick should do that drake
Why are Kendrick's rap haters so emotional? Its weird. These are grown men
I never heard Kendrick mention or acknowledge this fake "Afro Samurai".
@@blasternixon8013 Huh? Dont you Think kendrick has already done that?😂
Lupe showed how immature he is and this coming from a big lupe fan
Lupe only pops out when Kendrick shining .
I love both (though I listen to Kendrick more bc he’s MY preference, not on some universal metrics), but I think it seems like he does this bc he doesn’t understand the criteria as to why “Kendrick gets a pass” and wants to call the masses bluff, when Lupe has sooooo many styles and I believe he feels he stays truer to the metrics. I hate the music industry sooooooooo much, because there’s really room for so many greats, but manmade scarcity drives ppl to behave like this.
Lupe drops albums consistently. He's always doing shit. Educate yourself, peon.
It's because Kendrick doesn't speak to the masses like they're stupid. Lupe is into Lupe so much he's forgotten that most of his fans aren't his Ivy League coworkers and nobody's interested in constant debate. Every discussion I hear him having is him trying to make someone else feel stupid.
@@rtoriqkendrick won the people. Lupe wants the people to win him... simple as that
@@rtoriq”Kendrick gets a pass” - pass on what? Why is Kendrick not allowed to shine without Lupe trying to crap on him?
Respect to Thought Crimez for trying to debate Lupe. Bro was to in his feelings and kept cutting them off then got in his feelings and kicked them off the live. That’s mad emotional behavior can’t respect people like that smh
Woman like
Me either that was real lame of him, and he should issue an apology...
They was being goofy af. You would have thought they they were the superstar rapper the way they was acting.
They wouldn’t even introduce themselves like we should have already known who they were. Never heard of them in my life. Lupe said get to the point and they still saying nothing. Deserved to get kicked
He try to lil kid them but failed 😂, he will be surprised if he let them stay, they knows alots
Nobody should trust your opinion, because you don't know the difference between "too" and "to" lmao That's some basic grammar, so I know your brain lacks complexity.
I don't understand why lupe is jealous of Kendrick, when lupe had the torch he ran from it and wanted to go underground!! He stopped doing interviews and somebody came and took his spot
I think he hates the extreme fans that troll em
He's mad because he thinks he's smarter than everyone else and can't believe that everybody else can't see it.
Thats exactly what i observe@@JK-wp4nl
@JK-wp4nl Lupe is smarter than all the low IQ hip hop fans who are glazing Kendrick for the wrong reasons and getting too infatuated with drama and the lives of strangers. A lot of weirdos.
I love lu so much, but this is a great point!
Lupe has lost the plot
Lupe just lost a highly publicized online debate - replay thoughts crimez question and Lupe doesn't address anything directly, also his pompous attitude towards their public notoriety expounded his immaturity from the beginning.
As Thought Crimez said Lupe Fiasco himself ..
"CHEATING THE PUBLIC OUT OF A CONVERSATION.."
Nothing more to be said Lupe needs to battle Kendrick or STFU because right now, he's looking BIG TIME JEALOUS-IM GLAD THE FEMALE WAS THERE TO DELINEATE THE ENERGY, shout to thought crimez for keeping it real ‼️👀
Been following though crimez since 2015 Lupe though he had himself a win should've done his research @thoughcrimez
Lupe would clear this man, Kendrick does NOT want this
I understand Lupe. And I don't want to come off as pompous either but when you're more intelligent then people often times they spin words and narratives that you neither said or meant. It's essential when debating to flesh those very things out and thats why Joe was meant to be the mediator.
@@juliusmaben3807 Lot of people, like yourself, said the same about Drake before Kendrick cleaned his battle clock. Now here you are talking calling ppl pathetic. That’s not a little sick on your part? That’s rhetorical. Because it is sick. Consider getting off the 🛜 for a while
@jamesmcclaren9759 a lot of people NOT including myself said Kendrick didn't want it with drake. I am a drake fan admittedly but a rap fan first. I am on record many times saying I didn't want drake to go at Kendrick cause I didn't see him coming out with a W.
Drake and Lupe are 2 ENTIRELY different tier of rapper. And I absolutely stand on what I said and Kendrick wanting no parts of him. Just like he tucked tail and ran when SLR2 came out. He wants no parts of rappers that can actually go bar for bar with him.
I’m just glad to hear somebody not letting Lupe Fiasco walk on them in the interview, he likes to cut people off and get them frustrated, change the subject, and the rail peoples points where they forget where they were coming from in the first place.
Whoopie fiasco is an all-time grade as far as his contribution to hip-hop lyrically . But he has some lessons to learn about being humble about something such a simple as losing an argument., not having the biggest opinion in the room.
For these reasons alone, I think he would lose a battle with Kendrick Kendrick Lamar . Kendrick is more patient deviously calculated than he is..
Though crimez don't fuck around fr
I listen to Lupe say a whole load of nothing in an interview with Curtiss King
Lupe is trying to use Drake to bait Kendrick and it’s clear🤦🏾♂️ that’s why you’ll never hear a flat out diss record towards Kendrick because he knows that if Dot doesn’t respond to it then it’ll just make him look desperate and justify the “hating on Kendrick” narrative. The game tried the same thing with Rick Ross- Ross ignored it and after 1 day no one cared anymore because in todays rap culture the Game is irrelevant just like Lupe 🤷🏾♂️ . Lupe isn’t as clever as he tries to portray himself to be- he’s looking real lame out here right now
Hella childish
Bingo!
Well put my guy
💯
So why don’t Kendrick respond?
You have to watch ThoughtCrimes stream to get the full context. He called them out, and they came on the show, and he was being mad disrespectful because he's a salty hater.😂 Lupe is going out sad.
No you are wrong here Lupe wanted to attack one argument we didn’t need context for anything else which they kept trying to provide but it wasn’t needed for this argument, he wanted to attack their Drake is not a mc argument but these guys kept doing other shit luckily they did leave, bc Lupe picked their argument apart badly I mean it was bad they would’ve been speechless, he tried multiple times to get them back in there but they refused to join, either way they are lucky they didn’t come back ngl
Lupe picked apart that “ghostwriter” shit, he said one of the people who created and started mc-ing didn’t write his verse on rappers delight does that mean he isn’t a mc? He went into details on it too
Which was their original claim (which honestly doesn’t make any sense and it’s pure ignorance)
@@quhe No theyre right, Lupe got you hooked. Lupe is compromised. Accept it or dont.
@@ghostmkc4045 naw you just disagree with someone who doesn’t talk bad about Drake that’s all it is, regardless of all of the forced hate Drake will prevail like it or not
Btw Lupe is a professor and he teaches hip hop professionally, so no random fan on the internet would be more knowledgeable on the topic than him, he literally studied hip hop, he’s a student of the game (rapper) and teaches it (professionally)
Stop watching little clips and actually listen to what he is saying then you could make that decision
Nah lupe going out sad @quhe
@@quheyall got to get some testosterone this estrogen ish is getting out of control rappers delight was several guys in the group if 1 didn't write so what the best guys that rhymed at the time wrote they own ish MCs are lyrical and they write for themselves KRS rahkim big daddy Kane the top guys are always the guys who write for themselves and they talk that the best ish because it's competition yall can't change things to cater to what your feelings say Lupe is a clout chaser who never made it big so he's trying to ride a wave to become relevant he has a album that came out in 2008 it took till 2022 for that album to make it to platinum status 1 Grammy with 9 albums bruh is mid
Wow, Lupe talking down to people, who would have thunk?
Lupe is as confusing as his songs
He probably wrote it for drake lol
Why are these rap guys so emotionally unstable. No wonder hip hop is dying on their watch, all this for attention & validation because you don’t have the confídence to openly diss Kendrick and call him out. Put out. 6 min diss of Kendrick and be done
I just wasted 15 minutes of my life...this was stupid.
Thnx imma log off now
Man, My feelings exactly
Two camos are acring the same
Right Like what was this shit even about
How you start this trying to make these people introduce themselves cause “you don’t know who they are” than end talking about “I heard what yall said on TH-cam
that had me dead. but two things can be true lol
@@POUNDAGEOLDinspirednah he knew he was just hiding
I dont know who they are. Lupe Fiasco is the greatest rapper of all time. I know who he is. I know his body of work. I know he spits BARS and he's smart as fuck and does shit other people can't do. His experience and knowledge of his craft means something. Lupe can rap. Kendrick cant. Lupe's analysis holds weight. There's doesn't. We don't even know who they are. They're nobodies.
@@runegeezyKendrick can’t rap? 😂you are a ridiculous human being!
@@POUNDAGEOLDinspirednope. The whole convo started bc he was in the comment section of their live stream. Then ran when they tried to ask him a question.
Lupe is hilarious lmao he should’ve never gave his opinion if this is how he was gonna follow it up lmao he just keep digging himself a deeper hole
😂😂
Lupe needs to come out with it and say he wanna battle Kendrick 😤 🙄 that's all it is he thinks he's his equal stop the showboating and get in the booth
I hate this man but he said it a million ways without seeming like a bully.
And if I was kdot I wouldn't
I was a big Lupe fan back in the day but right now he can't fuck with Kendrick at all Lupe style is Jay-Z rhyme pattern mixed with Nas and a lil Eminem Kendrick already know what Lupe gone rap like so it's a easy battle! Lupe is not a battle mc his style is more deeper
@@t.p.rbeats I don't understand how this entire comment section is so delusional to believe that Lupe, who packed Royce up with a freestyle, "is not a battle MC" you haven't been keeping up with his track record in the slightest and still got on the hate bandwagon. Only goes to show people aren't interested in facts only optics.
He sounds like a jealous ex. Very weird
My concern is, why is such an arrogant, biased person, with roots and heritage based in West Africa, but idolizes Japanese culture, teaching Rap/Hip Hop? Is he teaching real rap/hip hop or a version that suits his biases? Is he teaching rap/hip hop or taking revenge on a culture he feels did not fully appreciate him? The community need to get these posers out of positions of stewardship of the culture or at least remind they are just guests. AKKK, Drake, Akon and his brother, Emmanuel Acho, Lupe, Vlad, Adam 22, Tyla, Lucifer Grainge and Junior, Michael Rubin.
Lupe really in his feelings!!! 😂 just drop a diss track on kendrick already.
Exactly if you really feel away about him stop being a puss and just do it already. Stop with all the hating
SLR 2 does exist 😂
@800mEric well, tell him to drop another one because the first one didnt hit. You clown.
He ain’t worth acknowledging so I think Kendrick will ignore him, I had to look him up because I forgot about him
Facts I forgot about him too I don't know but maybe two of his songs I think
Lupe is so goofy it's painful to hear
This was so pointless, Lupe is such an annoying person
“Throwing skateboards in the way”🤣
He got hella mad 😂
Lupe really just threw his legacy in the bin for a ovhoe chain
Tf happened to Lupe man. Like frfr, I don’t understand this man
He ain’t been the same since campaigning against Obama.
@@kcking23 He basically embarrassed and blackballed himself with that Obama sh*t. Another episode of when keeping it real goes wrong. He keeps 🔫 himself in the foot. And then he got sonned by Chief Keef and never recovered. He always throwing little jabs at the wrong people. He dissed Ye. He dissed Kid Cudi and Childish Gambino. This dude is just doing the most
Lupe is not even relevant anymore.
He going out sad and jealous
Ok? Sexy Redd is more relevant than Rapsody...
Ppl and this “relevancy” argument; that’s exactly why the actual “standards” are slippin; because everyone’s so focused on “ReLeVaNcY”
Last album was very good. The music is separate from the person atleast to me
He's 5 years older than kendrick. Drake 1 year older than kendrick. Who act the oldest?
He's a lame too 😒
And im sure Lupe tore them up once he kicked them out the chat. That way they cant defend the point they were trying to get at. Aint nobody got time for them games. Thought Crimez have their own platform... Either u like what they say or u dont. Lupe came to THEIR platform, not the other way around. U got everybody who has a platform on "the youtube" and they ALL say Lupe is glazing Drake. And if he like Drake, thats fine. U like who u like BUT... u cannot call Drake a emcee if he dont write. Lupe... Just come out with a diss track directed at Kendrick... NO SNEAK DISSIN.
Do you know what an MC is??? Kendrick is not an MC. Drake is an MC. Have you seen a Drake show?? A Drake interview? That man knows how to control a mic and control a crowd. That's what an MC is. The man on the mic. The master of the ceremonies. The person talking and keeping engaged. That's Drake. He does that better than Kendrick does and that's not even a question or up for debate. Drake has better presence. Better delivery. Kendrick don't know what the fuck he's doing. He can. Barely even rap. He's timid. MCs are not timid. Kendrick is not an MC. Now let's get to the writing. Can you prove that Drake doesn't write? You have zero evidence that he doesn't write. We've literally seen videos for years of him with his writtens on his blackberry and he's rapping his shit off his phone. People that have worked on music with him have SEEN him write down his bars on his phone and then go in the booth and record. He has WRITTEN for countless other artists. So we know Drake writes. You can't prove that he doesn't. We also know that he works with other artists and producers and puts music out that other people contribute to and they get credit. That isn't sneaky. And that doesn't mean he doesn't write. That's just what happens in the music industry at THAT level. If we always got the same Drake bars over 40 beats, he would get stagnant and wouldn't have the longevity he's had. Every major artist that tops the charts has performed music written by other people. That doesnt mean he can't write. It's stupid to think that he should write every hit song he's ever had. You can't hold anyone to that standard. No one else, on their own, has had as many hits as Drake has. You act like someone else has done it so he should be able to do it too. It's not even possible. You guys are so devoid of brain cells it's starting to hurt MY head. I can't even imagine being as dumb as you guys are, it would physically hurt me to be so stupid. Anyone that says Drake doesn't write is a complete idiot. Provide some evidence that he's never written any of his bars. You can say hooks or song concepts. But his verses. His raps. Prove he doesn't write them. You can't.
@@runegeezy stop it... Emcee and MC is not the same. U cannot be a REAL EMCEE with no pen game. I grew on real PEN game. I dont need to go to his concert becayse i dont care enough for his music to be bothered. And im sure its easy to control a crowd of worshippers when u yungins view him as a god. Thats the problem. Stop riding and maybe a real conversation can happen.
@@runegeezy AND I don't have to provide proof that he doesn't write... His writers and the reference tracks already did that work
@@runegeezy it hurts your head because it is u who's missing the brain cells. Go somewhere and go to sleep
@@chenoawilliams767 emcee is not a thing. Master of Ceremonies. MC. That's like saying I don't need to go to am ATM to get money! I go to the ayteeem. You're just DUMB.
I hope KDot bodies Lupe … soft azzz ish . I never heard Lupe before this …. Smh
I just hope Kendrick don't disappear again. I want him to go at all the subliminals that has been coming at him lately.
@vicknewman9418 nope. Kendrick did what he came to do, which was walk down Drake. He should focus on his album or whatever else and ignore Lupe like he's been doing.
😂😂😂 never heard of lupe but love kenny is insane. Yall cant possibly be fans of hip hop
Lupe prove your not gobbling Bbl marbles
Lupe is a whole goof. These rappers who complain about other rappers and don't rap about it is wild to me. He gotta go on the internet and discredit some random creators who talk their opinions but he's too sensitive to even let them speak about it is just like drake moving like a ho. Just rap about it professor
If you remove Lupe caping, Lupe gaslighting, Lupe contradicting himself, and Lupe playing dumb for a pre determined outcome (aka clown ish) then Lupe hasnt done or said a word in years... he needs to go and see Ye and wake tf up out of this cooky bubble
7 minutes in and these people really love to hear themselves. they don’t want to answer any question and won’t let the conversation start. just interrupting over and over.
yeah that’s 7 minutes i’ll never get back
edit: make that 24
This conversation didnt even get to start. Lupe kept interrupting. Then the other side kept wanting to complain about interruption and never said they point. That wasa. Waste of time
As a Lupe fan, this hurts. 😢😔 What the hell did Lupe singing Keith Sweat have to do with ANYTHING?!?!? If he wants the battle with Kendrick, just say so! The jealousy and backtracking on Hip-Hop purity is disgusting!
Lupe is a whole fiasco frfr
Ooooooh you needed me to solidify why Lupe has always been thought of as laaaaaaaaame…cool got it…straight goofiness!!!
Idk him, but Lupe seems hard to get along with. Big chip on his shoulder.
x "I think he's dangerous"
y "To you?"
x "No"
?????
It’s crazy all of us who rock with Lupe are saying the same thing; he’s damn near the illest ever but this behavior towards Kendrick is embarrassing. A slight against K.Dot is a slight against his own quality of work.
Wait does Lupe believe in Astrology? Is this a joke or soemthing?😂
That's what you call "crashing out"? 😂😂😂
Right “going out sad “ it’s “nasty work”🤪
lupe played himsefl and thought crimes is mad chill for this . cause bra was playing foreal 😂. he a real weirdo
Lupe is a goofy😂😂😂😂 and he’s very jealous of Kendrick.
I had no clue Lupe was like this. I’m so disappointed. I won’t be listening to his music based on how he treats people.
EDIT: Speaking on behalf of all my girlfriends sitting here with me right now, he has lost many potential female fans.
Kendrick got mol3sted by his cousin 🌈 😂
Stop crying
@@Bignay95right
Ain't that serious fam
Stop being soft. It’s his opinion. He doesn’t care if you’re disappointed. Move on with your life. Stop putting so much energy into rap. I swear if you put this much energy into your life, you’d be much better place
Lupe lost a fan on this day. Separatinf rhe artist from the art no longer applies to this generation, give reapect where its due but arrogance makes that noll and void. A rapper that cant have a conversation with fans but wants you ta listen to his album is beyond me....
He lost me years ago when he first started hating on kendrick. He's a hating wierdo. His music is subpar standing next to kendricks work. He wishes he could do what kendrick has done. He's become an envious joke. He's v..acci...nated so he knows his life is in the balance. Blood clots fkn the blood flow to his brain rn
Hes spiraling
He’s one of my Favorite MCs and this is hella disappointing and wack asf
@melaninswagg8973 Lupe is so condescending in everything he does. You can literally tell him how his music make you feel and he would tell you that it shouldn't make you feel like that and what it should make you feel like. Understandably, interpersonal feelings and emotions is best shared through art, but for the artist to reject the perceived art being made makes you question the art being made. Food and Liquor 2 brought a whole perspective to me whenever I didn't have 1 in 2012 l, and changed my projection as person even when GKMC was out. Now for it to come full circle with such negative energy is disappointing..
@@randonsims7976 I agree with u on that breakdown💯
Lupe can't skate..
aye joka.. tell em how I did a 540 in some soccer cleats
Lupe needs to put down the thesaurus and read the dictionary a little more. He shows on songs and conversations he’s not conscious of the words he uses. He’ll be condescending then double down on it by saying something to show you he was trying to demean you. His music comes off the same way overly wordy but without much meaning on most songs. I’m not saying he’s not great at putting words together that sounds good but I think his use of words can contradict his point. In debating you need to know what your position is and how certain arguments can call fallacy to that. Lupe is ultimately just jealous of Kendrick and doesn’t want to say that, same as Drake.
Lupe is slowing letting Kendrick take his spot as my favorite rapper. Dude got to let it go.
Same bruh, Lu been my 1 for so long, but he’s losing that spot
same i didnt know lupe was this bitter about kendrick..like why
kendrick has never said anything bad about him
@@eneokweobianuju9659 man I either read about or watched a video of Lupe years ago and my guy said he wanted to commit suicide after B.O.B and Bruno Mars song blew up cause that was supposed to be his song. I understand his bitterness, cause he is better than a lot of these people and his career was on the incline, however, he needs to let it go forreal.
Man nothing went completely left smh
TC are Trolls
Thank you!!! I’m like it took Prince like halfway through the convo to even start to get to the point. I could not have conversation with men like that. Like don’t weave in and out of trolling when you feel intimidated or can’t concentrate on a point. I like some of their videos but I don’t know what all this was.
They are avoiding Lupe being direct and trying to stick to a specific criteria they don't want to do that because Kendrick doesn't stand up under scrutiny so they took a page out of Kendrick book and gaslighted the audience to save themselves from them being exposed for glazer of the year🎯💯😆
Thought crimes is lame and childish fucking talk n quit playing all that laughing n shit. I feel Lupe on that
Facts
You on Lupe tip
In this 24 minute conversation. I have learned absolutely nothing about nothing. No points were made, no coherent ideas expressed, and zero value in anything uttered. 😩
This is sad heartbreaking and disappointing
Sorry Lupe but you lost that intelectual title they misplaced on you. lol literally sound like a right wing pundit when they are trying to weasel they’re way out a losing debate.
Look at Kendrick doing the lord’s work. Out here breathing life into dead rappers. Kendrick really about the culture. He’s giving EVERYONE a chance.
Lupe going out sad over Drake is wild
True Cornball I Never Fux Wit Son
The Thought Crimez longwinded style won't work against Lupee Adhd...🤣
I like thought crimes but they were doing wayyyy too much!
How when lupe was cutting them off mid-sentence? He asked a question and wouldn't let them answer. I like Lu but he was being on some weird type time. Got me looking at him sideways.
Lupe is a sensitive guy I see
It would have taken 10 seconds to say DRAKE DONT WRITE HIS RAPS but no, Thought Crimez and Lupe wanna play games and its just frustrating and embarrassing to watch. GET TO THE FKN POINT. If Lupe interrupts to change the subject IGNORE HIM AND STAY ON THE FKN POINT. This was a lesson in how NOT to debate smfh.
Its so frustrating to watch a person in the wrong win arguments just cos they good at spinning. That was an L for everybody involved.
Lmao Kendrick sooooo anti social media that he has other people doing the dirty work for him 😂😂 Lupe doesn’t realize Kendrick the boogeyman, he all stressed out by this bullshit is hilarious 😂
they should battle, lupe is not drake bro, trust me
Lupe Fiasco fell a long time ago so why on earth would anybody want to talk to him?😂
Lupe going out sad
There is a mediator here but no mediation smh
Lost a lot of respect for Lupe….
Lupe went from backpacking to skateboarding to a wannabe COLLEGE PROFESSOR AND NOW THINK HE JAPANESE!! YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!
Very confused at the comments. Prince didn't get to the point at all, how is Lupe the bad guy here?
Lupe need to battle Ab soul first. Kendrick just coming off a battle and he's not done with drake to turn his attention to bitter Lu.
exactly..kendrick not gonna waste his time with lu..but if lupe can get through absoul then we will know he is serious lol
Thought crimez was talking in circles though in all honesty. Their tones are facetious. I would’ve went in on them too
Lupe literally just did something like this on a stream I'm watching right now
Curtiss King? I was there🤦🏾♀️
@@penelopesanchez1679 yeah!! That was hard to sit through.I am a huuuge Lupe fan but damn!!
At 22:35 Lupe mocks the voices of Thought Crimez… comedy haha
Telling the truth ain't hating 🎯💯
Lupe needs fresh air
Master gaslighter = Lupe 😂 “relax” when’s the one being belligerent
Lupe was my favorite back then…boy this one hurts. Going out sad…I’ll pass on Lupe music
Where’s part 2 at?
I see why him and Royce don’t rock anymore
Thought Crimez is A.I. no doubt!!!!!
Not a single question lupe asked got a answer 😭😂
Lupe didn't answer no question either and he had to go on his own platform because if he would've went to they channel he would get cooked!!
@@DINOOG909i just don’t see how people think this was a good look for thought crimez
@hueyhoopin busters don't understand I see!!
This was my first time hearing them.
People get so mad when you have an opinion that doesn't agree with theirs.. Lupe can have an opinion it doesn't make him a hater. We ask for artist to not be politically correct and be real, then when they do we criticize them!
Yeah but lupe doesn't
Even believe what he is saying. He is just jealous of kendrik and knows he is real competition.
@@Ash10000 How do you know what Lupe is thinking?
@@shoptalkconvo-mak1471I mean it’s funny how for the passed 10 years lupe been throwing shade at Kendrick and yet Kendrick has never mentioned lupe once I believe. So what does that tell you.
If seems more like they are trolling him than actually trying to discuss any type of topic.
Exactly. They Ain't Saying Nothing At All But Acting Like Lupe Cutting Them Off. Nah, Get To The Point Of Why Drake Is Not An MC. They Provided No Facts.
18:58, what do you call this? Lupe wasn't even being talked to, and he comes back to just interrupt.
@@thinkfreely6045bro Lupe was being a clown and was cutting them off without letting them even talk, either you're a fan of Lupe or we did not watch the same video. Lupe kept on talking over them every time they was trying to get their point across. This s*** came off weak and immature bro. He can't even conduct himself a man and have a simple conversation, people agree or disagree all the time. People need to know how to talk to people that they don't agree with in debates. We all adults. Except for Lupe clearly. And he end up kicking him off the group chat. Like I said they were trying to debate with Lupe and he was being a clown. Clearly everyone in the comment section besides y'all two can see that. But if that's your hero, God bless you.
Yeah they were trolling him a bit but Mr lube wasn’t hear for a real discussion anyways
There was absolutely no trolling from Thoughtcrimez at all it was nonsense how "Joker" and Lupe were reacting
Drake emcee metrics, lets go.. he never answered😂
Lupe is my 3rd favorite OF ALL TIME.
He is just trolling. He trying to battle Kendrick. 😹
He should battle him then
No he’s not Punch from TDE was in his spaces the whole time yesterday
@@ronmexico6486what was punch’s response to the comments Lupe made about Kendrick?
@@dre_rocstar3k386 He was just in there for a couple hours just listening til the end. He he’s cool with Lupe tho
Hi my name a lupe fiasco and my choice of beats are trash and I’m also a geek .
I dont agree with Lupe but he spoke his truth. I can respect it.
Lupe buddy this is called the dunning kruger effect your not outsmarting anyone here
Lupe is bourgeois rapper not a worldly one
These guys from ThoughtCrimes all combined have 3 brain cells 😂😂😂
And yet displayed 3 more than Lupe did in that moment 🤦🏽
U being generous
Lupe is so sad
I do t know who you all are. So you should introduce yourself.