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John, thanks for an informative video! This was of help to me. Of particular note is that your video - unlike the official one from MGW (!) - discussed the installation of the flat stick itself. Having just installed my MGW shifter on my 3V, I can offer the following suggestions for anyone else looking at installing one of these: 1. My shifter, a flat stick like yours, also did not come with a 3/16” allen wrench. I tried one I had on the flat stick base unit and it did not fit the two hex holes on it. However, a 5/32” allen wrench did fit. 2. I too lowered the transmission, but only a half inch or so. Like you, I found no way to get it to the one inch MGW recommended. 3. The two 10mm bolts for the existing rear shifter support bracket were easy enough to remove. But the bracket itself was a pain to pull out because of the clip used on the drivers side to hold it in place during the manufacture of the vehicle. To remove that clip, you need to press (hard!) into the small portion of the clip that is angled up away from the bracket, while trying to pull the whole works down. It’s rather counterintuitive. Unless one has a lot of callouses, it can’t be done bare-fingered. I know; I tried. I used a towel to press on that tab and with great difficulty finally got it off. 4. I received two zip ties with my shifter: a small one and a big one. The small one is actually documented by MGW, but you’d likely not know it. It is used to mount the flat stick grommet. That video from MGW is here: th-cam.com/video/hhLDEN6ikLA/w-d-xo.html 5. I looked at my existing inner shift boot, and having looked ahead at several people’s experience, knew there was no way I was going to attempt to try and stretch it around the oval base of the new shifter once the shifter was already mounted. No way. That to say nothing of trying to then stuff the edge of that same boot under the hole for the shifter. No thanks! I took the route of putting the boot on the new shifter beforehand. That’s where the big zip tie came in… even with another set of hands and four flathead screwdrivers between us, we could not make the existing inner shift boot fit around the new shifter. However, I made two small half-inch cuts on the boot bottom, which made fitting the boot to the shifter merely difficult instead of impossible. I then used the big zip tie to better secure the bottom of the boot to the shifter, and it worked so well I believe that was its intended purpose. Doing things this way made it that much more difficult to fit the new shifter down through the bottom of the vehicle - it was not easy. But based on comments I’ve heard about trying to fit the boot onto the shifter after it’s mounted, I’m convinced mounting the boot beforehand much easier. A second person was a big help when trying to maneuver the new shifter into the hole. 6. Mounting the new rear bracket was difficult. I had only a jack and stands, and that doesn’t give a tone of room under the car. I found I could only really get one arm at a time up in that area to work… and you need two (one to hold the bracket and one to screw the nuts on). I finally made it work by using my extender with a *standard depth* (I first tried it with a deep well and it didn’t work) 10mm socket, dropping one nut into that, and then using that works to push the bracket up and simultaneously push the socket onto one of the threads. I started turning and got the first nut on enough to hold the rear bracket up. I was then able to switch to the deep socket to finish one side, and then finish the other. Like you, my kit did not have the washers MGW mentioned were included. 7. For the shifter adjustment, MGW notes most of their customers preferred 4-5 turns. The more turns, the shifter the throw, but also the “not chief” the feel. A few others found that even 5 turns was too much for them and they decided they wanted to back it off to 4. With that in mind I set mine at 4 and I’m glad I did. It feels good and solid and plenty notchy; I imagine getting to first and second would be quite the chore with an even shorter throw. Thanks again for your video… I hope my comments are of help.
I got it here at MGW: www.mgwshifters.com/shifters/mustangs/102
Hero 9 Black on Amazon: amzn.to/3aL2v5u
My fav video camera Sony AX553: amzn.to/3hmHXS3
Follow on facebook: bit.ly/3aImEbJ
My Amazon store: www.amazon.com/shop/johnvhrc
My Radio control channel: th-cam.com/users/JohnVH541
John, thanks for an informative video! This was of help to me. Of particular note is that your video - unlike the official one from MGW (!) - discussed the installation of the flat stick itself.
Having just installed my MGW shifter on my 3V, I can offer the following suggestions for anyone else looking at installing one of these:
1. My shifter, a flat stick like yours, also did not come with a 3/16” allen wrench. I tried one I had on the flat stick base unit and it did not fit the two hex holes on it. However, a 5/32” allen wrench did fit.
2. I too lowered the transmission, but only a half inch or so. Like you, I found no way to get it to the one inch MGW recommended.
3. The two 10mm bolts for the existing rear shifter support bracket were easy enough to remove. But the bracket itself was a pain to pull out because of the clip used on the drivers side to hold it in place during the manufacture of the vehicle. To remove that clip, you need to press (hard!) into the small portion of the clip that is angled up away from the bracket, while trying to pull the whole works down. It’s rather counterintuitive. Unless one has a lot of callouses, it can’t be done bare-fingered. I know; I tried. I used a towel to press on that tab and with great difficulty finally got it off.
4. I received two zip ties with my shifter: a small one and a big one. The small one is actually documented by MGW, but you’d likely not know it. It is used to mount the flat stick grommet. That video from MGW is here: th-cam.com/video/hhLDEN6ikLA/w-d-xo.html
5. I looked at my existing inner shift boot, and having looked ahead at several people’s experience, knew there was no way I was going to attempt to try and stretch it around the oval base of the new shifter once the shifter was already mounted. No way. That to say nothing of trying to then stuff the edge of that same boot under the hole for the shifter. No thanks! I took the route of putting the boot on the new shifter beforehand. That’s where the big zip tie came in… even with another set of hands and four flathead screwdrivers between us, we could not make the existing inner shift boot fit around the new shifter. However, I made two small half-inch cuts on the boot bottom, which made fitting the boot to the shifter merely difficult instead of impossible. I then used the big zip tie to better secure the bottom of the boot to the shifter, and it worked so well I believe that was its intended purpose. Doing things this way made it that much more difficult to fit the new shifter down through the bottom of the vehicle - it was not easy. But based on comments I’ve heard about trying to fit the boot onto the shifter after it’s mounted, I’m convinced mounting the boot beforehand much easier. A second person was a big help when trying to maneuver the new shifter into the hole.
6. Mounting the new rear bracket was difficult. I had only a jack and stands, and that doesn’t give a tone of room under the car. I found I could only really get one arm at a time up in that area to work… and you need two (one to hold the bracket and one to screw the nuts on). I finally made it work by using my extender with a *standard depth* (I first tried it with a deep well and it didn’t work) 10mm socket, dropping one nut into that, and then using that works to push the bracket up and simultaneously push the socket onto one of the threads. I started turning and got the first nut on enough to hold the rear bracket up. I was then able to switch to the deep socket to finish one side, and then finish the other. Like you, my kit did not have the washers MGW mentioned were included.
7. For the shifter adjustment, MGW notes most of their customers preferred 4-5 turns. The more turns, the shifter the throw, but also the “not chief” the feel. A few others found that even 5 turns was too much for them and they decided they wanted to back it off to 4. With that in mind I set mine at 4 and I’m glad I did. It feels good and solid and plenty notchy; I imagine getting to first and second would be quite the chore with an even shorter throw.
Thanks again for your video… I hope my comments are of help.
What are the two Allen screws on the side of the shifter for ??
Nothing more fun than rowing thru the gears. Definitely a shorter throw. Love the blue and black shifter ball. Pretty sweet 👍👍😎👊✌️
Thanks buddy. So much more to come!
Sweet John! Now you'll be banging gears quicker and looks really cool! Thumbs up! Regards!
Thanks! It makes it easier to grab second when doing big burnouts, haha!
My mustang has a carbin fiber center console and trim on the the door I have not seen any other mustangs with that
Is the flat shifter and the regular shifter both have the same throws and the only difference being the design and price?
I believe so