Hey Ash, this is such an amazing and informative video. I didn’t know that they’ve found a method to extract pineapple oil, that’s nuts! And I’m quite surprised how costly pink pepper oil is, can’t imagine what it’s like to work with such an ingredient when messing up. I also agree with Mr Herpin’s opinion on Americans not really liking citrus, Light Blue Forever is a perfect example. As for the Sauvage part, I believe it’s not just Sauvage that’s taking over the scene, Dior fragrances are topping a lot of lists. The ending is an eye opener, the fact that CDNIM can nearly stand toe to toe against Aventus from a perfumer’s perspective, is impressive. For Mr Herpin to give CDNIM such high praise in the quality department is extraordinary in its own right. Definitely need more content like this if you ever get time for it, thanks Ash!!!
I like the parable that CDNMI is like a caricature of Aventus. But I'll have to stick to the cheap stuff, I don't want to be punched in the face when my wife finds out I bought a fragrance for $300 that you can barely smell. 👊💥
@@pallemaniac i know he said in the video full presentations of aventus for around 300 on grey market BUT i havent seen it on any discounters for less than $360-400. Aventus is so expensive. I could buy 3 chanels for one aventus and cover at minimum 3 seasons.
This was such a great video. Absolutely great to hear from a perfumers perspective. This would be an awesome series. Thanks for the content, hard work, effort and professionalism to your craft. Much appreciated.
This was awesome! I loved it when Richard said he liked the price of CDNIM because of the price of Ambroxan, but they compromised on everything else 😂 I can't wait to watch more! It's great to hear Richard's perfumer perspective vs Ashton's. Great videos, guys! Keep them coming!
Ya, I was quite surprised and ecstatic when Richard praised CDNIM’s quality. Makes you think about how much of a cash grab Creed really is, for trying to push those 500$ prices.
@@SirSillageSniffington lol with all the hate that it gets, I’d consider those words a praise 🤣 On a real note though, he is showing a relatively positive view on it. Which made me think the iterations such as CDNIM Limited, are definitely in the realms of premium grade for low prices. That’s sort of my own view on this whole interaction.
@@Q_N-It is true that he called it the Rock n' Roll Aventus. He could have just called it trash if he wanted, but he didn't. So, that a compliment in itself I suppose 😅
This is awesome Ashton! Many thanks to Richard for coming on and giving what is basically a "free" class. I hope we see others soon! Maybe some indie perfumers, and of course you gotta try to get the other well known perfumers on here. Learning a lot, I love it! Thank you both!
Great great content ! Very interesting to hear a master perfumers take on these scents ! I will definitely have to check out Salt N Pepper... Thanks Richard and Ashton for taking the time out of your lives to connect with the senses ~~ Perfumery can be such a magical experience that we can all connect threw.....
Great knowledge, I hope you make a series together with Richard. I've already seen videos on other fragrance channels where perfumers were invited but there is no comparison in knowledge which Richard present here. They weren't so detailed as him Magnifique
Really enjoyed this and excited for more of these types of videos. I’d love to see him not only compare clones to OGs but maybe even rate fragrance lines and see what are his faves.
What a fantastic video, Ash! I could listen to you and Mr. Herpin discuss fragrances all day. Would love to hear him discuss his recent creations for Michael Malul, including Edgewater. Very educational! 🤘
Really enjoyed this video, hope to see more of him. Personally I don’t like wearing either fragrance but a few weeks ago I sprayed Aventus on one hand and Club de nuit on the other and then asked my mom to pick which one was better. Her initial reaction was something like is this a trick they smell the same, then once I told her one was a clone of the other and to pick which one she liked more she ended up picking Club de nuit.
That was very interesting! I love having the point of view of an experienced and reputable perfumer, comparing his point of view with an amateur enthusiast. This should really become a series because the Internet needs more interactions between the manufacturers & "specialists" with the consumers! Thank you for doing that 👌🙏
Great guest! Next time pls ask him about smth with grapefruit, like Light Blue Forever. Interesting where grapefruit stands in the citrus range. Layton vs Detour noir would be interesting too. Also in general, it would be interesting to hear Richards opinion whether Tygar, Afternoon Swim, Elysium are worth their price and why.
Hey Ash, really love this video. Give us more of this. You have ATH doing similar things, but I really find that this has his own value to add. It's really crazy to see how he gets all the materials out of it and can analyse the composition! Especially since Richard is the creator of some of the most amazing fragrances ever.
Fwiw, I own both. I prefer Aventus on my skin of course. But the key to CDNIM is it is a SILLAGE beast, and the Lemon Pledge harshness just isn't there in the air, especially in the drydown. That is why it gets so many more compliments than Aventus, at least for me.
Wow, appreciate taking the time to break down the elements. Explaining what we smelling and experiencing. Personally i find club CDNIM too harsh. Preferring mont blanc explorer ofer all the clones. Totally agree aventus is more classier. Like the direction we are going. Really interested in la nuit de l'homme bleu electrique vs the original. Why do so many people like the original eventhough it's not that strong. And why do parfums de marly fragrances seem to perform longer. Is it the build structure?
Man such a solid video, loved the insight from Richard and the back & forth in opinions. Please do more of these! Looking to buy that little discovery set from Precious Liquids as well. Cheers!
Great Video!!!! I definitely would like to see them talk about Oud Wood and the clones because i'm curious why Oud Wood itself and the clones dont project. Carved Oud last ok but still super close to the skin.
i saw this video yesterday at home, i was like meh but now im listening to it while im at work i really enjoyed it and it gave me a plus, thank you guys
Yes hahahaha lol truth is HIGH COST MIDDLE EASTERN FRAGRANCES SAFE TO USE? Yea lol but your bank account wont be lol for litterly THE SAME EXACT SMELL IF NOT BETTER HAHAHA FOR THE " MORE AFFORDABLE " CHOICE LOL IM JUST HERE TELLING PEOPLE THAT THOSE 300 PLUS MORE ARE BASICLY A RICH PERSONS EGO BEING MANIFESTED " OH LOOK WHAT I CAN AFFORD " HAHAHA
In Australia it's over $400 at discounters. Ckub de nuit is $60 so you can spray as often as you like. I've often paid $280 but I've gotta call it at $300.
That’s the guy behind Oud Wood and the lovely Indonisian Oud (RIP) by Zegna. 40 min interview is not enough we ask for 40 days 😜 What a joy to listen to perfumers insights!
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
This is a nice video, BUT... There is still much to be asked. He said Bergamos was expensive, but he also said Ambroxan was expensive. And that CDNIM had to put that 10% of "expensive" ambroxan in order to replicate that Aventus note. But as we all know, CDNIM is cheap. So where is the line here? What is actually expensive, and how much is the profit margin what we are talking about. For example (hypothetically): sinthetic bercamont is 10c per gram, but real bergamont is 1$ per gram, so it's technically 10 times more expensive. So in the formula, you put 2g of bergamont, which is $2, and now the fragrance is considered "expensive"? Could we even say that this practice of "expensive" oils is like the practice of how fragrances can say they contain real Oud when in reality they have like 0.0000001% real Oud inside but since it's technically there the bottom can say: "Contains real Oud". You know what I mean?
Fahrenheit, Acqua di Gio, Eternity, Obsession, Escape, Cool Waters, Drakkar Noir! Most Filipinos still love the classics! Perform best in our climate (Sunny and Rainy). Please do reviews and suggest cheaper clones.
This was a great video! Awesome to hear Richard's perspective on the artistry of Aventus and the compromises of CDNIM. Very refreshing to hear a pro admit that there is a time and place for both fragrnaces and that he would actually wear both depending on what he wanted out of his fragramce that day.
This Picasso v (insert expensive niche frag brand name) analogy is one I don't get. Picasso painted only one each of his pieces - so the rarity added the value. This isn't the case with fragrances...
I don't own any dupes but I got Teriaq from Lattafa recently and have been reaching for it and happily over spraying. I would love to have that North Stag IV. 🤞
So, I bought the Precious Liquid Customizable Discovery Limited Collection with these fragrances: Salt&Pepper Aqua Oud Amber Suede Sangria Oak I am in love 😍 with every one of them because whether it's an aquatic or amber fragrance, it smells of higg quality. I just want to bathe in them. Also, shipping was super fast. It took less than 48 hours to receive it from Boca Raton, Florida to where I live in North Carolina 👍
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
Even the weirdest smell can become comforting over time. Can't argue with the performance of 2015 CDNI. Reach out and touch noses at the expense of your own. 😆 Awesome how Rich nailed the TF without a brief. Props right there. 🤝
This was amazing! I would love to see a comparison between Luna Rossa Carbon and Sauvage EDP from a perfumer’s perspective since both have a similar DNA
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
This can be an entire series. Doesn’t necessarily need to be a comparison to clones. Just breakdowns of legendary frags.
Looking forward to this series! Richard is such a genuine and gracious guy.
I am really looking forward to more content like this! This feels like real value for the members
I really appreciate this format!
that dude is a cross mix-up of brad pitt and colin farrel
Loved the conversation between two true gents!
Hey Ash, this is such an amazing and informative video. I didn’t know that they’ve found a method to extract pineapple oil, that’s nuts! And I’m quite surprised how costly pink pepper oil is, can’t imagine what it’s like to work with such an ingredient when messing up. I also agree with Mr Herpin’s opinion on Americans not really liking citrus, Light Blue Forever is a perfect example. As for the Sauvage part, I believe it’s not just Sauvage that’s taking over the scene, Dior fragrances are topping a lot of lists. The ending is an eye opener, the fact that CDNIM can nearly stand toe to toe against Aventus from a perfumer’s perspective, is impressive. For Mr Herpin to give CDNIM such high praise in the quality department is extraordinary in its own right. Definitely need more content like this if you ever get time for it, thanks Ash!!!
That's not nuts it's pineapple 😂😂😂😂😂
@@dnatural1iam23 lol, as a father of 2, I appreciate the dad joke 👍
@@Q_N- 🤣🤣🤣😜
Awesome vid Ash!! Thanks for the different perspective!
I like the parable that CDNMI is like a caricature of Aventus.
But I'll have to stick to the cheap stuff, I don't want to be punched in the face when my wife finds out I bought a fragrance for $300 that you can barely smell. 👊💥
Where you finding a full bottle of aventus for 300
@@Seasniffer1969 True that, here in Sweden 50ml is now $250 and 100ml is $350.
@@pallemaniac i know he said in the video full presentations of aventus for around 300 on grey market BUT i havent seen it on any discounters for less than $360-400.
Aventus is so expensive. I could buy 3 chanels for one aventus and cover at minimum 3 seasons.
@@Seasniffer1969 Yeah, Greed... sorry, Creed is surely suffering from severe hubris. 🤒😆
no need, aventus is overpriced....
This was such a great video. Absolutely great to hear from a perfumers perspective. This would be an awesome series. Thanks for the content, hard work, effort and professionalism to your craft. Much appreciated.
This was awesome! I loved it when Richard said he liked the price of CDNIM because of the price of Ambroxan, but they compromised on everything else 😂
I can't wait to watch more! It's great to hear Richard's perfumer perspective vs Ashton's.
Great videos, guys! Keep them coming!
Ya, I was quite surprised and ecstatic when Richard praised CDNIM’s quality. Makes you think about how much of a cash grab Creed really is, for trying to push those 500$ prices.
@@SirSillageSniffington lol with all the hate that it gets, I’d consider those words a praise 🤣 On a real note though, he is showing a relatively positive view on it. Which made me think the iterations such as CDNIM Limited, are definitely in the realms of premium grade for low prices. That’s sort of my own view on this whole interaction.
@@SirSillageSniffingtonI agree with you. That was the point of my comment.
@@Q_N-It is true that he called it the Rock n' Roll Aventus. He could have just called it trash if he wanted, but he didn't. So, that a compliment in itself I suppose 😅
Please remind Richard to restock his website before appearing on your channel. We are going to buy it all when it's available
Right, I wanna buy the sample pack
Yeah big mistake, should've thought of that lol
lol facts!!!
This is awesome Ashton! Many thanks to Richard for coming on and giving what is basically a "free" class. I hope we see others soon! Maybe some indie perfumers, and of course you gotta try to get the other well known perfumers on here. Learning a lot, I love it! Thank you both!
Awesome interview. Looking forward to this series
Great great content ! Very interesting to hear a master perfumers take on these scents ! I will definitely have to check out Salt N Pepper... Thanks Richard and Ashton for taking the time out of your lives to connect with the senses ~~ Perfumery can be such a magical experience that we can all connect threw.....
T T T T Tobacco Royal!!!! Thanks guys! Awesome video. Precious Liquid awesome fragrances. Can’t wait for the next vid!
Great knowledge, I hope you make a series together with Richard. I've already seen videos on other fragrance channels where perfumers were invited but there is no comparison in knowledge which Richard present here. They weren't so detailed as him
Magnifique
Really enjoyed this and excited for more of these types of videos. I’d love to see him not only compare clones to OGs but maybe even rate fragrance lines and see what are his faves.
This was awesome. Thanks for the work, Ash!
Amazing video, we'd love to see more. Props to the esteemed dude for respecting the cheapie fairly.
What a fantastic video, Ash! I could listen to you and Mr. Herpin discuss fragrances all day. Would love to hear him discuss his recent creations for Michael Malul, including Edgewater. Very educational! 🤘
LOVE THIS CONTENT! The technical analyses are fascinating. Listening him talking about ingredients and sourcing is uber-interesting.
Loved this. Looking forward to the next one
Literally everyone loved this video. Cant thank you enough ashton🙏
Really enjoyed this conversation!
Excited to see more from Richard!!
Amazing video. Hope to see more of this type of content
This was awesome!!! Thanks! Keep 'em comming! -I'd love to hear both of your thoughts on the highest quality clones.
Really enjoyed this video, hope to see more of him. Personally I don’t like wearing either fragrance but a few weeks ago I sprayed Aventus on one hand and Club de nuit on the other and then asked my mom to pick which one was better. Her initial reaction was something like is this a trick they smell the same, then once I told her one was a clone of the other and to pick which one she liked more she ended up picking Club de nuit.
That was very interesting! I love having the point of view of an experienced and reputable perfumer, comparing his point of view with an amateur enthusiast. This should really become a series because the Internet needs more interactions between the manufacturers & "specialists" with the consumers! Thank you for doing that 👌🙏
Great guest!
Next time pls ask him about smth with grapefruit, like Light Blue Forever. Interesting where grapefruit stands in the citrus range.
Layton vs Detour noir would be interesting too.
Also in general, it would be interesting to hear Richards opinion whether Tygar, Afternoon Swim, Elysium are worth their price and why.
Hey Ash, really love this video. Give us more of this. You have ATH doing similar things, but I really find that this has his own value to add. It's really crazy to see how he gets all the materials out of it and can analyse the composition! Especially since Richard is the creator of some of the most amazing fragrances ever.
Great video! Really informative, looking forward to the next ones.
Fwiw, I own both. I prefer Aventus on my skin of course. But the key to CDNIM is it is a SILLAGE beast, and the Lemon Pledge harshness just isn't there in the air, especially in the drydown. That is why it gets so many more compliments than Aventus, at least for me.
Wow, appreciate taking the time to break down the elements. Explaining what we smelling and experiencing. Personally i find club CDNIM too harsh. Preferring mont blanc explorer ofer all the clones. Totally agree aventus is more classier. Like the direction we are going. Really interested in la nuit de l'homme bleu electrique vs the original. Why do so many people like the original eventhough it's not that strong. And why do parfums de marly fragrances seem to perform longer. Is it the build structure?
This a wonderful video Ash, a breath of fresh air
Awesome content! Thanks for the hard work on putting out something different.
Possibly yhe best conversation ever had comparing these two
This was extremely informative finally we hear from a professional. Amazing job gents scent you’re doing a great job
Man such a solid video, loved the insight from Richard and the back & forth in opinions. Please do more of these! Looking to buy that little discovery set from Precious Liquids as well. Cheers!
Great video, exactly what I wanted from this series !
I loooooved this video man thank u
When Richard Herpin brought up the meal price tag I couldn't agree more... When it comes to food.
Great video! Would love to see another!!
Timestamps would be so useful in these sorts of videos
It would be great to see Richard break down BR540 and its clones because that is a synthetic fragrance and seems easier to copy
Great video! Edgewater is great, and I look forward to buying Precious Liquid fragrance samples.
I think I really liked edgewater. Was that the melon one? I got a strong melon vibe from it, or westloop I can't remember
This was great. Hope to see more of these conversations.
This is such an interesting and informative video I really enjoyed watching it thank you Ash
Great Video!!!! I definitely would like to see them talk about Oud Wood and the clones because i'm curious why Oud Wood itself and the clones dont project. Carved Oud last ok but still super close to the skin.
Great episode! Make this a monthly thing!
Awesome interview I need another videos to breakdown Oud Wood and Noir Extreme edp
i saw this video yesterday at home, i was like meh but now im listening to it while im at work i really enjoyed it and it gave me a plus, thank you guys
Very informative video, I enjoyed it a lot!
genuine question - Are low cost middle eastern fragrances safe to use?
Yes hahahaha lol truth is HIGH COST MIDDLE EASTERN FRAGRANCES SAFE TO USE? Yea lol but your bank account wont be lol for litterly THE SAME EXACT SMELL IF NOT BETTER HAHAHA FOR THE " MORE AFFORDABLE " CHOICE LOL IM JUST HERE TELLING PEOPLE THAT THOSE 300 PLUS MORE ARE BASICLY A RICH PERSONS EGO BEING MANIFESTED " OH LOOK WHAT I CAN AFFORD " HAHAHA
In Australia it's over $400 at discounters. Ckub de nuit is $60 so you can spray as often as you like.
I've often paid $280 but I've gotta call it at $300.
That’s the guy behind Oud Wood and the lovely Indonisian Oud (RIP) by Zegna.
40 min interview is not enough we ask for 40 days 😜
What a joy to listen to perfumers insights!
Great video learnt so much from Richard 🇬🇧🏴
I didn’t know who the perfumer was until you mentioned oud wood , what a fragrance that is👏
Great stuff guys!
So this is the cdnim edt obviously. Should've compared the Creed to the Limited edition imo : "best for best" !!
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
Nice and informative and no one sprayed into the air and waved their hands to their faces.😂
He did oud wood, right?
yup this guy is a legend
LOVE THIS. Keep it up.
Big Up Ash 🔥🔥
Neat video idea. I liked this 👏
Edp or edt ??
They used the EDT sadly. Should have used the limited edition.
This is a nice video, BUT... There is still much to be asked. He said Bergamos was expensive, but he also said Ambroxan was expensive. And that CDNIM had to put that 10% of "expensive" ambroxan in order to replicate that Aventus note. But as we all know, CDNIM is cheap. So where is the line here? What is actually expensive, and how much is the profit margin what we are talking about. For example (hypothetically): sinthetic bercamont is 10c per gram, but real bergamont is 1$ per gram, so it's technically 10 times more expensive. So in the formula, you put 2g of bergamont, which is $2, and now the fragrance is considered "expensive"? Could we even say that this practice of "expensive" oils is like the practice of how fragrances can say they contain real Oud when in reality they have like 0.0000001% real Oud inside but since it's technically there the bottom can say: "Contains real Oud". You know what I mean?
Was the CDNIM edt, edp or parfume?
Fahrenheit, Acqua di Gio, Eternity, Obsession, Escape, Cool Waters, Drakkar Noir!
Most Filipinos still love the classics! Perform best in our climate (Sunny and Rainy). Please do reviews and suggest cheaper clones.
This was a great video! Awesome to hear Richard's perspective on the artistry of Aventus and the compromises of CDNIM. Very refreshing to hear a pro admit that there is a time and place for both fragrnaces and that he would actually wear both depending on what he wanted out of his fragramce that day.
Video starts at 7:23
Yes, more of this…thank you!
Great video thanks Ashton
This Picasso v (insert expensive niche frag brand name) analogy is one I don't get. Picasso painted only one each of his pieces - so the rarity added the value. This isn't the case with fragrances...
None of the clones can get Aventus opening. The clones smell to synthetic and overly strong
They seem to not be able to get the pineapple+ birch combo to merge together correctly. It's always that armaf 🍋 that is rough to blend in.
@@NoPainNoGain___ yeah I’ll stick to Aventus I wear it everyday 100ML bottle I will get cologne for the summer.
Hei ash, thanks for the analysies of both of you, i wanted to ask you if you compared the cdnim edt or the edp? Thanks for the answer
I don't own any dupes but I got Teriaq from Lattafa recently and have been reaching for it and happily over spraying. I would love to have that North Stag IV. 🤞
So, I bought the Precious Liquid Customizable Discovery Limited Collection with these fragrances:
Salt&Pepper
Aqua Oud
Amber Suede
Sangria Oak
I am in love 😍 with every one of them because whether it's an aquatic or amber fragrance, it smells of higg quality. I just want to bathe in them.
Also, shipping was super fast. It took less than 48 hours to receive it from Boca Raton, Florida to where I live in North Carolina 👍
I apply The CLUB 10 SPRAYS A HOUR B4 I HIT THE BAR...DRY DOWN TO LIVE FOR.😅
More videos like this please. Can you do Hacivat, Dreamer, or a comparison like this with more originals & clones (baccarat !)
Lovely video!!
Wish he would have compared with the limited edition.
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
This is pretty cool!
Even the weirdest smell can become comforting over time. Can't argue with the performance of 2015 CDNI. Reach out and touch noses at the expense of your own. 😆 Awesome how Rich nailed the TF without a brief. Props right there. 🤝
Wow thats great. Very well done.
Ask him why they destroyed Oud Wood?!! One of my favorites
Please do the Oud Wood comparison with him 🙏
That would be so cool!
@gentsscents this is a fascinating show! Thank you!
Great Video please more breakdown Videos!!! Xerjoff italica or kilian or MFK
Great content. More of this. Less clones. In depth on houses, information, history.
This was amazing! I would love to see a comparison between Luna Rossa Carbon and Sauvage EDP from a perfumer’s perspective since both have a similar DNA
CDN is more like 50$ not 20
7:41 Comparison conversation begins
Would be great to compare TL to all its clones
You know how maraschino cherry taste? I want that in a men’s fragrance.
I think a closer better comparison and review would have been aventus and club de nuit limited edition instead
Yes! THANK YOU! 🙏 at least one other person is commenting on this. I thought I would be the only one who is bothered by this nonsense of picking the EDT version. Poor perfumer
In Sweden Creed Aventus 100ml cost 340 usd and Club de Nuit intense man cost 32 usd
Yeah its ridiculous lol like everything in this paradigm lol
its obviously a waste of money hahahahahahaha
Is that dude in his kitchen?
Yes because he cooks all his fragrances
He stores some perfume in the fridge
It's official, CDNI is "safe" Richard sprayed it on skin. 😂